Dec. 9th: Mike Puma of the New York Post tweets that the Mets made an offer to Shaw around Thanksgiving. Shaw, however, “might be inclined” to wait for closers Greg Holland and Wade Davis to sign in order to let the market for setup men establish itself.
Nov. 25th: Mike Berardino of the Pioneer Press reports via Twitter that the Twins are not one of the teams that made an offer to Shaw, according to a source with “direct knowledge”.
Nov. 24th: According to Paul Hoynes of cleveland.com, two separate teams have made multi-year offers to Indians free agent reliever Bryan Shaw. As of now, the identities of the two teams are not yet known.
Hoynes notes that the Mets are reportedly among the teams that have shown interest in the right-hander. Shaw has spent the last five seasons with the Indians, during which time newly-minted Mets manager Mickey Callaway was his pitching coach.
Shaw has long been one of baseball’s most durable relievers. Since coming to Cleveland in the three-team trade that sent Shin-Soo Choo to the Reds, the 6’1″ righty has logged at least 64 innings. During that time, he’s appeared in a major league-leading 378 games. That kind of consistency from a reliever is rare, making him a coveted asset in this year’s free agent crop. Shaw ranked 25th on this year’s iteration of MLBTR’s Top 50 Free Agents With Predictions. For what it’s worth, MLBTR picked Shaw to land with the Red Sox.
Durability wasn’t the only reason Shaw earned a spot in the top 25, however. The former second-round draft pick of the Diamondbacks has a lifetime 3.13 ERA, and has never posted a full-season mark higher than this year’s 3.52. And yet, despite a career-high ERA, Shaw managed to post his highest-ever fWAR total for a single season in 2017 (1.6 fWAR). While his 0.65 WPA for the season doesn’t quite paint the same picture, it’s difficult to argue that Shaw has provided great value to the Tribe in a setup role.
Shaw just turned 30 years old this month. It seems likely he’ll command at least a three-year contract.
Ill guess one was the Mets
I think so
Why would you say that?
They Shaw something they liked.
That was legitimately Shawful. Just Shaw-t up.
The need more help than a bullpen arm
They need all types of pitching
I’m shawcked that you even thought that was funny
Kind of like your comment that everyone Shaw coming
Can the Phillies overpay for him please
Phillies fans have to wait until next year. But then boom
We have to pick up at least another reliever and starter, maybe even two, unless we want to repeat another 90 loss season. I don’t expect huge moves, but a middling move like Shaw, or another reliever would be nice.
But you don’t want to over pay for him.
I’d guess Mets are one
I hope so the Mets need to step up in free agency
Yeah cause a 7th inning reliever will cure all their priblems. Lol
So doing nothing is your option?
Bryan Shaw would NOT be high on my list on a rebuilding team. Save the 3-4 years of money IMO on that guy.
Just think did the Cubs or Astros do that several years ago? No, they traded for starting pitching & closers and built deep teams.
The Mets aren’t rebuilding, they are trying to win. Whether that happens or not is another issue but adding a guy who doesn’t give up the lead late in games is generally a good thing when at least trying to win.
Ummmm The Astros went out and got Luke gregerson and pat neshek for the 7th when they were about to contend after a 92 loss season…..
So was Gregorson or Neshek locked up on a lucrative 3-4 deal? That’s what Shaw is gonna get.
Yeah gregerson signed 3 and 20. Probably on par for what Shaw is going to get…..
Gregerson 3 yr/18 mil, Neshek 2 yr/12 mil and Neshek wasn’t even on Astros this year. I’ll bet anyone Mets do not win WS in next 3 years, any takers?
The Astros made the playoffs after making these moves. The Mets went to the World Series 2 years ago with largely the same team. The injury bug hit the Mets hard this season. Your theories are terrible.
Ok, so you don’t think the Mets are getting to WS in next 3 years so it proves my point that Shaw would be basically a waste of money for them.
Nats and then prolly Phil’s win east next few years IMO. Mets are in a rebuild whether you’re in denial or not about that.
How are the mets a rebuilding team? If they go out and get this guy and another reliever like Smith or Minor then sign Cain, and get a decent second baseman not out of the realm to think they couldn’t be in contention again. Especially if everyone stays healthy.
Actually the Astros signed Gregerson and Neshek for 2015 when they were still considered rebuilding and made the playoffs with their help.
But that’s an extra 3 steps and a big “If”. Appreciate the optimism by Mets fans but geez that club is clearly on the decline. That shortstop prospect is overhyped and IMO good but nowhere near great!
Troll
Your definition of rebuild could use some rebuilding.
It’s a start. They are run like a small market team, so he’s be their make FA signing if the Mets land him.
So are the Phillies
That’s ALOT of IFS!
I’d like to think the Pirates were one of them, but they won’t spend the money necessary to land him so I doubt it.
well they did over pay hudson las season lol /s but true.
I’m surprised more aren’t in on him… although it’s probably just his agent drumming up more bidders. He’s solid and not a liability which isn’t the case for a lot of pitchers in a lot of bullpens.
As a twins fan who has seen him a lot, you can put him in high leverage situation. Not a top setup guy, but you wouldn’t be nervous putting him in with in the sixth with a one run lead. The average fan knows that isn’t always easy to come by.
He’s an upgrade for most teams.
“you can put him in high leverage situation. Not a top setup guy, but you wouldn’t be nervous putting him in with in the sixth with a one run lead”
Total Mike Francesa analysis, except he would repeat each phrase four times.
LOVE IT! Hahaha
I thought that too. The agent references a phantom 2nd bidder while dealing with the player’s preferred team. That ploy also discourages other teams from bidding.
Cardinals and mets
I see the Cardinals in on every solid reliever
Jays should be signing him would be a good 8th inning man
I agree!
I’d assume the Mets are certainly one of those teams. I’d be surprised if they weren’t.
no one should be coveted
Yeah like, “Though shall not covet thy neighbor”.
or your neighbors baseball player
Yeah cause a 7th inning reliever will cure all their problems. Lol
Cubs? Grimm Rondon are out the door.
They generally don’t spend a lot on RP, but I can see the fit there.
Do you think he would have hard feelings about the World Series?
no way
Cubs will be in the market for multiple late inning relievers. Maddon’s faith in anyone out there beyond Wade Davis pretty much evaporated in the NLCS
Texas Rangers and Mets.
As a Cleveland Indians fan, any team wanting this guy who puts gas on the fire time and time again, can have him…He is over rated
I’m also an Indians fan and was also frustrated with him a lot…but for all his highs and lows, the bottom line results are consistent year in and year out. He’s sturdy and reliable (but on a year to year basis more than a day to day one). I won’t shed any tears to see him leave, but some team is going to get a solid reliever for the next few years.
Bang on! He seemed to do worse than his numbers dictated. He was somebody that would take the bump every night too. Would’ve loved to see him back in Cleveland but not at the price he’ll command.
I think the Tribe front office was ready to move on from Shaw before the season ended. He wasn’t horrible, but I think all parties can agree he’s due for a change of scenery regardless of salary.
Agent trying to pressure someone into a better offer.
I wonder if he would take less if a club gave him the opportunity to close. Rockies? Back to the Diamondbacks? Cardinals? Rangers?
Everybody that doesn’t want to pay the price for Davis and Holland.
Good question. I see cubs letting Davis walk . Theo doesn’t like to pay for closer. Shaw, Morrow , reed, Watson type
Theo didn’t mind paying closers when he was with the Red Sox, Crappy ones too….
Ha ha maybe he as learned. He let Chapman walk and traded for one year on Davis. He just seems with cubs to go on cheap in bullpen with league minimum type guys. It is amazing how relief guys can flame out from year to year
I bet the Twins are one of the teams
He is no Tyler Cravy lol
I was thinking the Mets and Twins would be the two teams.
Wouldn’t be surprising, they’ve signaled that they will be aggressive in FA and BP was a sore spot for them last year.
How about Mets and Astros? Houston’s bullpen had serious problems during WS and Callaway knows what he would be getting in Shaw in NY.
I feel like of the Astros are getting a reliever (which I’m 100% certain they will be) it’ll be a lefty.
Please please don’t use a dont use WPA! Garbage stat.
It’s not necessarily garbage but it does need context to be very meaningful.
Go get him Thoppy
Go get him Coppy… Oh wait
Sox, Astros are my guesses
Mets needs a real pro in the middle innings. Shaw would be a nice sign for sure
If we really want to give it a go again next year, I think the Astros need to be looking at almost every reliever on the market. With that being said, it always scares me to give a reliever more than a couple of years. It just seems to backfire so often. They usually are very inconsistent and can have an amazing year and then come back and have a terrible one. We were sold on Giles being some elite closer and that just didn’t happen. Sometimes it’s better to gamble on lesser known relievers and see if they can make a name for themselves. I remember for quite a few years the Rays kept having to rebuild their bullpen due to everyone leaving and yet they kept having a consistently good ‘pen.
Shaw with our pitching depth will not be a loss IMO there are various ways to fill that hole without throwing big dollars at it.
What I’m the most shocked by is that they picked up Brantleys option was totally shocked by that.
Yeah, that shocked ME too! I thought the Tribe would decline Brantley’s option, then re-sign him for maybe 7/8M. Like the Indians, I like Brantley a lot, as a player AND a person, so maybe the signing was a way to reward him for his past services. That said, I hope he can bounce back with a strong 2018 season, but it’s all a catch-22 situation. If he bombs out, the Indians have wasted a fair amount of money, but if Brantley has a good season, he’ll be able to hit free agency on a high note, and Cleveland probably won’t be able to afford him. Whatever happens, though, I wish the best of luck to Brantley.
…. And the Red Sox counter the Yankees getting Stanton! Oh yeah!
Why do the Red Sox have to counter?
I think this means they definitely get Hosmer now, but they have a need there anyway. Shaw helps all 30 teams by consistency and not being injury prone. It’s better to have Shaw than patchwork AAAA types.
I can see the Sox signing Santana over Hosmer.