On the possibility of re-signing free agent right-hander Yu Darvish, Dodgers general manager Farhan Zaidi admitted Saturday that “there would be some hurdles for us to add any significant contracts at this point” (via Bill Plunkett of the Orange County Register, on Twitter). Zaidi didn’t specifically cite LA’s goal to stay under the $197MM luxury tax threshold, but Plunkett notes that the club doesn’t want to get any closer to the mark than it currently is. The Dodgers already have approximately $186MM committed to their 2018 roster. With Darvish seemingly poised to sign a contract worth in the neighborhood of $25MM per year sometime during this glacial offseason, a return to the reigning NL champs obviously looks unrealistic.
Here’s more on the Dodgers, courtesy of Plunkett unless otherwise noted:
- Darvish’s presence on the open market puts his future in question, and left-hander Clayton Kershaw could find himself in a similar position next winter if he opts out of his contract after the season. When discussing the option Friday, Kershaw said he’s focused on staying healthy in 2018, his age-30 season, and “everything will take care of itself from there.” While Kershaw is the game’s top pitcher when he’s available, back injuries limited him in both 2016 and ’17 – thus destroying his Cy Young chances in each campaign. Still, barring a disastrous 2018, it seems likely he’ll exit the final two years and $65MM of his contract in favor of securing a richer deal. Regardless of whether he hits the market in a year, Kershaw expects far more action in free agency than we’ve seen this winter – in part because teams intent on avoiding the tax (including the Dodgers) won’t have that same motivation.
- There’s mutual interest in a reunion between the Dodgers and free agent infielder Chase Utley, as Zaidi revealed that the two sides continue to “have conversations.” As a free agent last winter, Utley stayed on the market until late February before returning to the Dodgers for $2MM. He went on to provide solid bang for LA’s buck in his age-38 campaign, during which he hit .236/.324/.405 in 353 plate appearances.
- In an ideal world, the Dodgers would be able to dump outfielder Matt Kemp and his two-year, $43MM commitment on another club. Of course, they’ve had no luck in that department since acquiring the 33-year-old in an unusual, tax-geared trade with the Braves in December. Unless something changes by spring training, the Dodgers expect Kemp to be part of their left field competition, Zaidi informed reporters, including Ken Gurnick of MLB.com. Joc Pederson, Andrew Toles, Enrique Hernandez, Alex Verdugo and Trayce Thompson will join Kemp in vying for roles, Gurnick writes. Kemp has gotten into “great shape” this offseason, per Zaidi, who contends that “a motivated Matt Kemp can help a lot of teams in baseball, including us.” Kemp hasn’t been all that helpful to any club since 2014, when he slashed .287/.346/.506 in 599 PAs to conclude his first tenure with the Dodgers. Even then, though, Kemp’s well-known defensive limitations somewhat offset his contributions at the plate.
I don’t begrudge anyone for making as much money as possible, but it’s crazy me that someone would opt out of 30 million + to try to get more.
Doesn’t mean he leaves the Dodgers. CC Sabathia, Alex Rodriguez, Justin Upton all used the leverage of a opt-out clause to get a longer deal that what remained on the older contract.
Put differently, if you had a deal for $65M over the next two years and could opt out for a new offer of $25M a year for the next four years—why wouldn’t you? Your team’s annual payroll drops, while your guaranteed money is boosted by 50%.
Kershaw opts out and cashes in. Dodgers will pay him what he’s due. When he’s inducted in the HOF, he’ll be wearing a Dodgers cap.
I’m curious about what they’ll spend with the remaining 60 odd mil next year
The question is how much money is Friedman willing to spend on Kershaw? Everything we seen from Friedman thus far suggests that he’ll have price limit. Remember what happened in the Grienke negotiations? Plus the Dodgers will have stiff competition from the Yankees who continue to show time and time again their willingness to be bold and spend. Kershaw could be the Yankees missing pierce to another championship.
I can’t wait to see what Friedman is planning
Honestly. I think he’s going to do whatever it takes to make Kershaw a dodger for life. That’s just my opinion.
I see an extension happening here…..why risk FA?
Wipe out the last two years and give him a 5-yr deal for $120 mil
Dodger fans also remember Jansen, Turner, Hill. Kersh will be green lighted from management, that’s simply all that matters.
The Yankees will have more than enough to sign a Kershaw or Harper next year and still be under the cap, not that they would even need to stay under after resetting this year.
lol, 24 aav? He’s getting 32 per the next 2 years, the aav will need to be around 30, and more than 5 years, probably at least 7. Just because guys like Arrietta and Darvish are taking a while to sign doesn’t mean you are getting a big discount on the best pitcher in baseball.
Dude, Kershaw is making $34.5 mil per year on his current deal. Your, 5 year $120 mil ($24 mil per year) is a joke. Some reports have Kershaw projected to make $37-$40 mil per year if he opts out.
Kershaw is from University Park, Texas. The Rangers can afford Kershaw, too.
I can’t see Kershaw going elsewhere but if he does leave L.A. and wins a world series another cy young etc. And has even more dominance with that team. It’s not up to him what cap he wears. Otherwise Randy Johnson would have picked the mariners. He was co world series mvp in 2001, threw a perfect game in his 2nd stint. Pretty sure he got a ring in 2010 from the giants he was hurt I believe.
“best pitcher in baseball” sorry Max has that title.
Because that would never work. Is Kershaw a Superior pitcher to Yu Darvish? I think the answer is a easy yes. 5-$120m won’t do Darvish let alone Kershaw. More in the neighborhood of 7 years and $210m.
Kershaw wouldn’t take that. His extension would need to beat Greinke’s current deal.
Greinke and Kershaw are not the same story. Kershaw is a franchise cornerstone, he’s a fan favorite, and is a “homegrown” superstar. The Dodgers Front Office will pony up, just about whatever it takes to resign Kershaw, within reason of course.
I just cannot see Kershaw pitching for another team. I don’t think he will take a “hometeam” discount, but if the money and years are just about the same, he will remain with the Dodgers.
What , if anything, do y’all see changing if he misses any significant time this season due to injury? (Especially a back injury)
The best available pitcher if he opts out. Scherzer has won back to back CY Young’s kinda think until he slips he’s the best. Plus he doesn’t miss extended periods with recurring back problems..they might not want to be to loyal cause it could turn into a Mattingly situation…
I think The cubs would be in also
Good point. Wish that guy was on my team. He’s a class act.
This has nothing to do with the comment it is replying to.
No way a player opts out and takes a drop in salary.
He’s also going to have a tough time at 32 trying to get another contract. If he can set himself up at least for his age 33, 34, 35, 36, and 37 seasons it’s a win for him. Heck I’d give him at least 210 million over 7 next year if he’s healthy.
You honestly think Friedman would give Kershaw 7 years $210 mil? The Yankees maybe but not Friedman.
Pretty sure he would be happy to sign most any great player for 2/3 his market value or less.
Would you rather have $65 million or $200 million?
In the words of Deion Sanders, “Both.”
Why is it crazy? He can get guaranteed years added for major dollars. This is business
Right. Kemp will be the Dodgers LF and the bat boy will be playing center
Dude, don’t knock the bat boy, that kid has got some pop for a twelve year old.
Friedman worked a miracle with the first Kemp trade. Maybe he can do it again
It’s ok Dodgers, I think your fans are ok with the guy that lost you the World Series not being brought back.
No didn’t you read kershaw is still on dodgers
Apparently .236/.324/.405 is “solid bang for the buck.” What a joke.
Utley was well worth the 2 mil they paid him.
He was a bench player making $2 million, that’s solid production for the money and role.
Utley is too much of a big boy for mets fans like you
Of course it was. Do you understand this game?
He’s a Mets fan and because Chase Utley accidentally injured their utility infielder during the playoffs it nullifies everything good he’s done in his career and will do in their mind.
That was not an accident.
Did he mean to slide the way he did? Yes, absolutely.
Did Utley mean to injure another player with that slide? Very doubtful.
Yeah it was negligence! If the Mets had just provided their players with more milk we wouldn’t be talking about this silly rule change.
HE NEED SOME MILK
I agree with you @southi. I don’t think Utley tried to break his leg, but he did try to break up the double play which wasn’t the wrong thing to do. But it’s still not an accident.
Old school baseball. Chase will continue to own the Mets. He signs with the Dodgers for 2018. 1.3 WAR bench player, I’ll take it.
On an unrelated note, why does this site have the most demanding password criteria of any site? My bank doesn’t even request one as complex. If someone really wants my MLBTR account that badly, they can have it. Yeesh.
Lol, I had to adjust my go-to pw as well
It is super crazy. For a baseball rumors blog site.
use LastPass to generate one.
I use goodle chrome and have it set to stay logged in and password saved so I don;t have to type anything I just push enter
Roberts and co. insistence in setting up Darvish for game 3 and 7 may have cost the Dodgers a championship.
Why wasn’t Darvish the game 2 starter? It isn’t Darvish’s problem he was mismanaged in that series and I feel bad for Darvish his value fell because of it.
You think Yu would have been any better in games 2 and 6 as opposed to 3 and 7. They were all over Yu reguardless of when he was pitching. The formula of Hill 2nd and Yu 3rd won them a pennant. There was no reason to change it up
I think Hill in game 2 was a gift. Also should have been Wood in game 3.
Complete gift. I mean Hill just got shelled. He continues to get shelled in the playoffs. If you don’t understand why Hill was game 2 starter well you haven’t really followed the Dodgers. He was game 2 starter, with a rested pen. A pen with an off day.
Don’t give me he was mismanaged. I love Darvish and hope the Dodgers resign him, but it was easy to see why Hill was game 2 starter. He is a fly ball pitcher that thrives in Dodger stadium. Darvish knows how to pitch in a ban box and his stuff plays in a ban box. What it comes down to is he ran into a mechanical issue and the inability to throw a slider killed him. Btw that inability would have happened in LA or Hou. Follow that up with he couldn’t throw his curveball for a strike, and you get…. You get a team that can sit dead red, because you can’t locate. His FB wasn’t even competitive.
He was brought in to break up the three lefties. And no you’re playing the hindsight game without much perspective. Actually your playing the game of trying to stir it up without any concrete evidence that makes any sense.
Wood saw an extended loss in Velo and he was clearly feeling the effects of being extended again after his prior injury plagued season. It’s a joke if you think he was mismanaged. The Dodgers lost the WS, because besides Darvish they had an inability to execute. They score a runner with less than two outs they give Jansen breathing room. Jansen serves up a 0-2 mid mid cement mixer. Kersh can’t hold two leads. They scrap their approach in game 7. There is no legitimate argument they can make that the reason Darvish & the Dodgers lost was, because of he was pitching game 3.
WS game 2, Dodgers have 3-1 lead in the 9th and Jansen couldn’t close the door. Just another lost opportunity that could have resulted in a WS championship. Couldn’t execute is right!
That’s another thing. If they leave Kershaw in to finish the 5th in game 6 with a 7-4 lead and two outs they win that game. Instead the analytics say pull.
Take out a historically great pitcher after 90 pitches to go to a bullpen arm.
It wasn’t analytical. Kershaw was gassed and couldn’t even throw a strike
Yes, it’s mind-bottling.
You’re probably getting game 1 at home with Kershaw. Darvish in game 2 at home puts the pressure on the Astros and gives you a chance to put a dagger in. Instead the pressure shifts to the Dodgers because of the weaker Hill.
You’ve got a team on the ropes. Do you then let them off the ropes and let them gain momentum all to win later rounds?
Wait the way I remember it, remind me if I’m wrong, but they had the Astros on the ropes with one of the best, if not the best, RPs in the game. Yes as a Dodgers fan I have absolutely no problem putting Hill on the mound.
Exactly what does Hill have to do with anything? It was the 9th inning with Kenley and a lead. Thats all you can ask for
Yes and because Hill only went 4 innings you not only tired your bullpen for the rest of the series, but Jansen also had to pitch the 8th, making him weaker for the ninth.
If Darvish goes 6, you’re still set up for the rest of the series.
Hill goes in game 4 and then Kershaw can give you 7 or 8 and save the bullpen in game 5.
Wait wait stop. No you just got got caught. That’s not the way it works. That not how bps are used especially for the Dodgers. You were wrong and now your trying to make excuses. There was absolutely minimal effort on the dodgers pitching staff. I repeat minimal. Your complaining, because Jansen extended one with an off day? No stop please. You are completely wrong and you’re trying to recover from it.
You’re trying to project that Darvish is going 6? What changes? The slippery ball doesn’t change. Game 7 in LA, shows the inability to spot up doesn’t change. You are literally throw S to the wall to see what sticks. Nothing changes Hill was effectively wild in game 2. The Dodgers forced Verlander out of the game. There is no excuse. The Dodgers had a stranglehold on that series. They had a runner on with less than 2 outs. They didn’t score him. Jansen had Gonzales 0-2 that’s not tiring a pen or the fault of Hill. That’s simply not executing when there’s a chance. You have no argument at all. If the dodgers execute we are not sitting here trying to play your game.
Here’s what it comes down to, Hill was absolutely in control. He was effectively wild. The Dodgers had a chance to extend the lead to 2 with less than two out. Jansen had a clean inning and Marwin 0-2. He missed mid mid and Marwin capitalized. They had chances to regain the lead and they didn’t capitalize. How did the Dodgers lose the WS, well their stars didn’t execute when they had the chance. It wasn’t the pen. The pen didn’t cause them the inability to cash in a free run at 3rd. It didn’t cause Kersh to give up 2 leads. It didn’t cause Darvish to fall apart mechanically. It didn’t cause the Dodgers to completely scrap approach in game 7. Bellinger hitting the rookie wall wasn’t a product of Hill throwing game 2. Turner’s injury wasn’t that of Hill throwing game 2. They didn’t burry the Astros and it bit them. Hill shoved, Wood shoved, Kershaw shoved game 1. You keep trying to retreat to a pen being tired. It wasn’t. And it wasn’t the reason why they lost.
What planet are you on? Did you not see Darvishs starts in the WS. Your telling me if it was 2 days earlier he goes from being lit up to 6 solid innings. Astros read Darvish like a book. Thats wouldn’t have changed if it was game 2
Also consider Bellinger set a PS SO record and a lot of those came in the WS with ROB (this goes back to execution) and JT’s BA was .160. Your 3 and 4 didn’t do there job either…
Doc said he decided to pitch Darvish 3 game because he pitched so well on the road in the NLDS and NLCS.
It’s bad policy. You want your best pitchers at home and also the more durable pitchers front loaded so you preserve the bullpen.
In their system they gas the bullpen early in game 2 with Hill who can only go 5 innings max.
I really hope this off-season keeps it slow pace and make these free agents rethink their high asking price. It’s rediculous how much a starting pitcher like Yu is asking for when his ERA was over 3. Not even mentioned in the Cy Young race. It makes me nervous how much an actual ace would ask for.
I disagree I think that teams will get desperate faster than the players
it’s crazy though because you can just wait a year or two for a prospect to develop than throw money away for a player that most likely will get you 1-2 good season and cause a dent in your payroll.
Assuming prospects actually develop into productive players at MLB level. Many never do.
Kemp to me can’t be that hard to get rid of it would just cost them prospects. A team like Detroit wouldn’t mind taking on that contract if it meant they get Walker Buherle for example. Dodgers probably aren’t willing to part with one of their best prospects to get rid of that contract but this year in particular with the way free agency has shaped up 10 mil can get you 2 maybe 3 decent roster players and the dodgers like to win with depth.
It’s really just about the 23 mil owed this year, so the more a team is willing to take this year the better of prospect they get from the dodgers, next year the dodgers likely blow past the luxury tax cap because it will reset this year.
To me getting rid of that money this year for the dodgers is worth even more because the dodgers are one of the favourites to win the World Series. Teams like Detroit, white Sox, Phillies might be smart to leverage the tax against the Redsox and dodgers and take on kemp or Hanley’s contract and basically buy a top prospect from the Redsox and dodgers. Giants too I guess with Pence.
you’re not getting a top prospect for salary maybe someone in a team’s 11 through 20 or someone that they just no longer believe in. who’s the last player required in this way that was actually good in the majors.
Padres Armchair GM
Bronson Arroyo to the braves. The dbacks sent along their 1st round pick either that year or year before in touki touissant to dump the salary at around 10 mill.
The yankees sent bryan mitchell to clear 12.5 mill for 1 year of headley to the padres this off season.
Kemp on the other hand is making 22 mill this year and next (not cheap). While the dodgers may not have to part with top prospects either toles or someone in the 6-10 range will be required to take on the entirety of his contract.
11 to 20 means dodgers are eating cash, small amounts, but cash none the less.
It wouldn’t cost them prospects if they were willing to pay half of his contract. That is how they’d move him assuming they were motivated to do so. The game they are playing right now is creating the impression of not being motivated.
When the Dodgers inquire about a possible trade all the teams ask for their top prospects then end up giving away the player the Dodgers ask about for nothing…hmmm And give up Buehler?! Lol! Kemp and a couple of #20 somethings or #30 somethings prospects yeah. Especially to an AL team in need of a DH
So you’re saying Walker Buherle is a $23 million dollar player?
No, but years of control over Walter BUEHLER is worth far more than $23 million.
With 6.5 year of control? Yes. He has more than 20M surplus value. Theoretically he would only have to cobble together a 3 WAR over the 6.5 years to be worth the 20M against the threshold.
A team with the payroll of the Dodgers last year should NEVER have been starting a guy like Utley in the World Series. No longer offers much of anything other than a red ass attitude.
So what do you have to offer?
I bet the Dodgers feel dumb for ending up with Logan Forsythe at 2B when they could have had Brian Dozier last offseason.
Why would they? Bellinger is pretty darn good. Frosty also was a clubhouse leader who had an injury riddled year. He was a plus defender at both 2nd and 3rd. He drilled lhp. The Dodgers didn’t bring him in to be a superstar. He also performed in the playoffs. So I’m guessing they don’t feel dumb at all. They probably feel validated in their belief that Bellinger was worth holding onto.
Seriously? The payroll thing? Again? Kershaw, Jansen, JT, and Agon…the others were low cost, team controlled players. Most of the payroll was bad contracts or players who didn’t play a big role and have, with the exception of Kemp, pretty much been dumped
It’s crazy to think how what was special about Kershaw was that he was this generational pitcher even though he was seemingly always in his mid-20’s (or it felt like that for years). Him turning 30 just kind of hits me regarding how many years he has left at his level with all these mounting injuries. I pray he doesn’t experience a fall off anytime soon, but I think it’s fair to wonder if he’ll ever be the ace on a championship team.
All of Kershaw’s mounting injuries amount to just one, back pain. It’s a chronic problem for him, the one that has produced all of his DL time. The fact that it is chronic will factor into any team’s contract considerations as he enters his 30s. Who thinks his back is going to get better as he gets older? This is why it is not unreasonable to consider the possibility of an extension at something less than the astronomical salaries we’re hearing a lot here, and think about a smaller base base with ample performance bonuses.
he’s not going to sign for anything less than 35 million a year, Boy some of you guys are dense
I agree. Price 30/210 kershaw gets 7/245-280?
Kershaw and Harper/Machado to the Giants next winter, book it.
Why yes Mr. Bartender, I’ll have another.
Those guys are at least 6 years too young to fit in on the Giants. No one wants to play on the Giants. Giancarlo vetoed a trade and literally picked the Marlins over the Giants. Ohtani picked the Angels (the Angels!) over the Giants. Lorenzo Cain went to Milwaukee to play .500 baseball rather than sign with the Giants. And Jarrod Dyson has avoided signing with the Giants for months now despite heavy interest and has now resorted to considering the Orioles over the Giants. What a joke! I believe Kershaw, Harper, and Machado will take a hard pass on the Giants and would probably consider the Korean league first
KBO > SFG. FTG!
Umm, you act like the Angels are the padres, lolz
No chance Kershaw goes to the Giants. I doubt they will be in on Machado, otherwise you would’ve heard something this offseason about trying to pull off a trade (cabin the weak farm discussion, they would’ve tried bc they have nothing to lose in offering a package.) Making a run at Harper would make sense, who knows if they get him.
But beisbolista your analysis is weak, real weak. One, you have no idea whether the Giants made offers to Cain or Dyson. All accounts indicate they did not. And on the topic of Dyson, the guy plays a great cf but has terrible splits against lefties, and there are a lot of great lefties in the nl West. He’s not an ideal fit. Cain is a solid fit but pricey given his age. Neither really makes sense. Stanton chose the Yankees, fair enough, they’re a better team at this point. Even if the giants had a great year last year and he weren’t worried about a rebuild, he still would’ve gone to he Yankees because they made a better offer. And Ohtani to the AL makes sense. And no chance any player would rather play in Korea… that’s nonsense or a not funny joke.
You can call me crazy, but I would take Bumgarner over Kershaw any day of the week, all because of their postseason numbers. It’s not even close.
You have to get to the PS first. The Giants won’t be seeing that for awhile
The regular season numbers for them are so different though. I understand the sympathy for the moments that Bumgarner’s had, but he’s never had a full season as good as anything that Kershaw’s done since 2009
Doesn’t matter. Bumgarner gets to the playoffs every other year and then completely dominates. Kershaw gets to the playoffs every year, and chokes, going nowhere.
I can’t speak for everybody, but I’d take 3 rings and a World Series MVP over any amount of Cy Young Awards.
compared with JD Martinez how bad is Kemp defense and base running??
Worse. But he can still hold up his end of the platoon. We might trot him out there to see what he can still do.
Kemp lost all of his defensive confidence.
Kershaw will be a Padre. Book it!
MLB 2018 is a 197 league.
I feel like this is the 5th gm to say those same exact words about Kemp
It’s going to take adding 5yr to his contract in the 150s or more I’d think. Best case for the next seven years would be 210mil, but it will probably be a total of 7yr 225mil. and that may not do it. It should because he is bound to regress the last two years during his age 35 and 36 seasons or maybe even sooner with his injury problems.
Red Sox need minor league talent and a right handed hitting DH. I think Kemp could do well being a DH at Fenway.
DH will be Hanely Ramirez primary role backed up by Mitch Moreland
The Redsox also want to get below the 197 Lux tax this year so no they won’t be acquiring Matt Kemp unless Hanley is traded for him but the dodgers and Redsox don’t line up good as trade partners. Needs to be a team way under 197 who will buy a prospect from the dodgers or Redsox for a crappy contract like kemp or HanRam.
Kemp is cheaper than the contract offer made to JD Martinez
$186MM without allowing for Maeda and Koehler incentives which could add another $10MM, then there is the amount MLB allocates to each team for benefits; somewhere between $7MM and $13MM. Realistic projections takes payroll over CBT threshold with current roster.
They are at about 180 with benefits. You can say they are comfortably around 186 with Maeda reaching his incentives. So they have have 7M not accounting for bonuses or other moves.
Utley would be perfect for my Yanks this yr. It prob won’t happen, but I’m all for it if it did
Not sure why reporters keep saying that Kemp “hasn’t been all that helpful…” since he was w/ the Dodgers. Yes, he’s vastly overpaid for his level of production, BUT he’s still a reasonably productive n 2015 & 2016, he had 58 HRs & 208 RBIs. That’s pretty good. Also, in the 1st 1/2 of 2017, he was hitting the ball as well as he did in his prime until he suffered a hamstring injury, & his season went off the rails since then. IF he’s healthy & motivated, & I realize those are big “if,” he may be the Dodgers’ best option in LF.
He’s been a league average bat, who no longer gets on base, and no longer provides elite power. He has no base running value and is a horrid defender. He played in an absolute launching pad. And he’s been jettisoned by three different organizations. They can platoon a LF position to equal his production without giving up anything defensively. You’re using the wrong counting stats to prove his worth. Sure 58 HRs is impressive I guess, but he’s selling to hit power. His obp plummeted to .312, .304, .308 with an ops+ of 109, 113, 103. There’s no other way to say it, in the NL provides no value.
War has killed players like Kemp, yes he isn’t the best defensively but he more then makes up for that with his bat. War basically calls him a replacement player meaning you can take Gorkys Hernandez and he would be equal to Kemp. Now I could have picked any average player and a Giant who can play defense but can’t hit was a good comparison cause according to War they are about the same or any player who scores an average rating. Personally I hate War statistically used as a bench mark in evaluating players using our eyes we can see Kemp is way more valuable then Hernandez and most other average players. People see a player with a 2 rating and another player with a 1.5 and say oh that’s the same but it’s not over the course of a season a 2 rated player will provide better play 25% of the time over a 1.5 player. The stat implies if you remove that player with an average player he is x amount better or x amount worse then a league average player it does not mean your team will win 2 more games over 162 games then an average player it means over a course of the season that player scores a net 2 meaning his play is a positive over an average player I hate the fact it’s called wins above replacement because it has nothing to do with actual wins and you being compared to an aggregate # of league average meaning even if you are good you can be bad and even if your bad you can be good.
Also reported recently but not included here:
Julio Urias will begin a throwing program soon but is not expected to be pitching off the mound in spring training. (Read: he will probably not be pitching in the majors this year.)
Andrew Toles is expected to be ready.
Kenley Jansen is impressed by Kemp’s conditioning and is enthusiastic about having him back. Dave Roberts is talking about Kemp as if he’s going to be on the roster and compete for a spot in LF. Would seem to throw a damper on any trade talk.
Grandal is expected to compete with Barnes for the starting job behind the plate. Trading him now seems to be more remote possibility than it might have appeared.
Lol kemp get back in shape every off season then the shape always rounds back out by June
Dodgers fans should start saying there good-byes to Kershaw cause this is his last year playing in that parking lot. There is no way Kershaw is gonna sign a contract for less then 6-7 years and less then 35-37 a year which would make him the highest paid starting pitcher. With the Yankees having no need for Harper he will be there #1 target, the Cubs who definitely need SP help by next year will also be all in on him, and the countless other teams with more room and as much money as the big boys cause technically they are big boys the Phillies and White Sox will be able to offer more then anyone. Any fan who thinks Kershaw is gonna take a discount is delusional, the best regular season pitcher should be paid like he is the best regular season pitcher (greatest post season pitcher is Bumgarner not just of our generation but of all time)
Bum is God
…and the Dodgers will pay him the market rate, but you’d be delusional if you thought the Dodgers didn’t have the best chance at him. Kershaw isn’t just going to go to the highest bidder like Greinke. He is a franchise player and has more invested in Los Angeles and his legacy than your comment gives him credit for. Kershaw wants to be a lifetime Dodger as much as the Dodgers do.
What you say about Kershaw seems true enough, but the history of players opting out and returning to the same team is not encouraging. I can think only of Sabathia as one who did it. The Dodgers if they are serious about making Kershaw a Dodger for life need to get on that program within the next few weeks. An extension that takes him well into his late-30s is not at all unthinkable but it should be substantially performance-based in the out years, given his chronic back problems.
Sabathia, Alex Rodriguez, Justin Upton, Yoenis Cespedes…those are four who come to mind quickly, players who exercised an opt-out clause and re-signed with the same team. Since the opt-out clause hasn’t been common until the last few years, this might represent a majority of the major contracts which had that feature.
Keep in mind also that Kershaw and his wife are people of very strong faith, who spend a portion of the offseason in Africa, spending time and money to build housing for people there. Their mission has spread to the DR, as well as separate projects in Dallas and LA.
Kershaw is famously averse to the money side of the game. I doubt he would chase only the largest deal. I think he’ll be looking for a home for the balance of his career, and a team which can support his mission. That may very well be the Dodgers.
I fail to see why Kersh would take an offer like the one you presented. Seems to me, like most players, he would probably be willing to bet on himself. I also find it hard to believe he wouldn’t get significant pressure from the mlbpa to take it to the market if it’s simply an incentives based contract. We also have to take into account the Dodgers wanting to get under the threshold this year. So any significant moves are probably not going to happen. I see both sides willing and comfortable taking it to the market. In terms of Kersh he is a lot different than Grienke and the Dodgers are a lot different than most teams that take it to the market. The Dodgers have green lighted faces of the franchise before and I think they do so again. As a franchise, they had a clear plan and it’s starting to reveal itself more and more. This is probably going to be the first year in which they rake in a significant roi as they clear the tax and dead money is at a minimum. One in which their tv contract money is not zapped from the word go. What it is going to come down to if we are being honest is his want to stay in LA v going home. Kersh strikes me as the guy where he’s not apt to go to the highest bidder, but he wants to win, and his family will dictate where he ends up.
Because he is already owed $35M for each of his opt-out years and has been able to pitch more than 200 innings only once in the last four years due a medial condition that is clearly chronic, meaning it can only get worse. So how much more could he get above that $35M per for his opt out years? Maybe a couple, three million. Who is going to guarantee him close to or more than $40M per season for five years or more beyond? Again, consider the medical history. Maybe not as many as you think. Maybe nobody.
So that is why he might actually take a deal that gives him the opportunity to earn more than anyone has in the history of the game if he’s able to actually pitch. One thing we know about the player is he take immense pride in that ability. So it isn’t a huge leap to see how if the Dodgers made that possible but asked him to invest in part of the risk that he might accept the challenge. I won’t even call it an incentives deal, because we know the player doesn’t need any incentives.
In terms of the luxury tax, an extension would not necessarily have any significant impact. A performance-based extension might even lower the AAV a bit.
I don’t get many emails from Kersh about how things are going with his home life so I won’t speculate on how he is influenced by his wife and family.
are you Kershaw’s BF? how do you he is “famously averse to the money side of the game”?