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Unresolved 2018 Arbitration Cases

By Jeff Todd | January 12, 2018 at 6:02pm CDT

We’ve covered a whole lot of arbitration deals today, many of them reached before today’s deadline to exchange filing figures. Some other agreements have come together after team and player submitted their numbers. It’s still possible, of course, that these situations will be resolved before an arbitration hearing becomes necessary. (At this point, we seem to lack full clarity on teams’ approaches to negotiations after the filing deadline. And most organizations make exceptions for multi-year deals even if they have a file-and-trial stance.)

Some situations could even be dealt with in short order. As things stand, though, these unresolved arbitration cases could turn into significant hearings. (As always, MLBTR’s 2018 arbitration projections can be found here; you will also want to reference MLBTR’s 2018 arbitration tracker.)

  • Mookie Betts, Red Sox: expected to go to hearing, per Alex Speier of the Boston Globe; Betts filed at $10.5MM, Boston countered at $7.5MM (per Jon Heyman of Fan Rag, via Twitter)
  • George Springer, Astros: did not settle, per Jake Kaplan of the Houston Chronicle (via Twitter); Springer filed at $10.5MM, Houston countered at $8.5MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)
  • Ken Giles, Astros: did not settle, per Jake Kaplan of the Houston Chronicle (via Twitter); Giles filed at $4.6MM, Houston countered at $4.2MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)
  • Collin McHugh, Astros: did not settle, per Jake Kaplan of the Houston Chronicle (via Twitter); McHugh filed at $5.0MM, Houston countered at $4.55MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)
  • Jonathan Schoop, Orioles: Schoop filed at $9MM, Baltimore countered at $7.5MM (per Bob Nightengale of USA Today, via Twitter)
  • Kevin Gausman, Orioles: Gausman filed at $6.225MM, Baltimore countered at $5.3MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)
  • Marcus Stroman, Blue Jays: Stroman filed at $6.9MM, Toronto countered at $6.5MM (per Nightengale, via Twitter)
  • Roberto Osuna, Blue Jays: Osuna filed at $5.8MM, Toronto countered at $5.3MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)
  • Jose Iglesias, Tigers: Iglesias filed at $6.8MM, Detroit countered at $5.6MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)
  • Avisail Garcia, White Sox: Garcia filed at $6.7MM, Chicago countered at $5.85MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)
  • Trevor Bauer, Indians: Bauer filed at $6.525MM, Cleveland countered at $5.3MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)
  • Jake Odorizzi, Rays: Odorizzi filed at $6.3MM, Tampa Bay countered at $6.05MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)
  • Adeiny Hechavarria, Rays: Hechavarria filed at $5.9MM, Tampa Bay countered at $5.35MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)
  • Scooter Gennett, Reds: expected to go to hearing, per Zach Buchanan of the Cincinnati Enquirer; Gennett filed at $5.7MM, Cincinnati countered at $5.1MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)
  • Eugenio Suarez, Reds: expected to go to hearing, per Zach Buchanan of the Cincinnati Enquirer; Suarez filed at $4.2MM, Cincinnati countered at $3.75MM (per MLB.com’s Mark Sheldon, via Twitter)
  • Shelby Miller, Diamondbacks: Miller filed at $4.9MM, Arizona countered $4.7MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)
  • Kyle Gibson, Twins: Gibson filed at $4.55MM, Minnesota countered at $4.2MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)
  • J.T. Realmuto, Marlins: have not agreed to terms, per team announcement; Realmuto filed at $3.5MM, Miami countered at 2.9MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)
  • Dan Straily, Marlins: have not agreed to terms, per team announcement; Straily filed at $3.55MM, Miami countered at $3.37MM (per Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald, via Twitter)
  • Justin Bour, Marlins: have not agreed to terms, per team announcement; Bour filed at $3.4MM, Miami countered at $3MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)
  • Brandon Maurer, Royals: have hit stalemate, per Jeffrey Flanagan of MLB.com (via Twitter); Maurer filed at $3.5MM, Kansas City countered at $2.95MM (per Rustin Dodd of the Kansas City Star, via Twitter)
  • Felipe Rivero, Pirates: Rivero filed at $2.9MM, Pittsburgh countered at $2.4MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)
  • Kendall Graveman, Athletics: Graveman filed at $2.6MM, Oakland countered at $2.36MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)
  • Justin Grimm, Cubs: Grimm filed at $2.475MM, Chicago countered at $2.2MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)
  • Mike Foltynewicz, Braves: Foltynewicz filed at $2.3MM, Atlanta countered at $2.2MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)
  • Zack Wheeler, Mets: Wheeler filed at $1.9MM, New York countered at $1.5MM (per Ken Davidoff of the New York Post, via Twitter)
  • Other tendered players who have not yet reportedly agreed to terms: Yolmer Sanchez, White Sox; Brad Hand, Padres
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  1. b24brando 2

    7 years ago

    Red Sox pay that man

    Reply
  2. calibearwaltzer

    7 years ago

    Some of these are really funny. You can’t settle a $100k difference?

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    • velorum

      7 years ago

      I’d certainly love to have that $100K

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    • NL_East_Rivalry

      7 years ago

      The numbers they are going to trial with aren’t the numbers they were asking. They are the realistic numbers they think they can win. The numbers being argued were of a larger margin

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      • ilikebaseball 2

        7 years ago

        Huh? Yes, these are exactly the numbers they are going to trial with, its how the system works. And yes the difference on some of them is 100k and those teams are file and trial and why the small differences are there and not worked out. But the numbers you see are the numbers in play. There are no other numbers!

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        • oogadebob

          7 years ago

          Not true, it’s a common practice among both teams and players to converse regarding the salaries with certain numbers in mind…. Then when it is time to file numbers for arbitration both sides file for different numbers closer to the median so that there is a better shot the arbitrator sides with them…

          So if a team already has moved the number $250k another $100k isn’t trivial, especially when it is not the players last trip through arbitration and it will be compounded regarding the subsequent seasons salaries starting with a higher base.

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        • Cardinals17

          7 years ago

          What’s a hundred grand to the owners???? They really must want to hack him off!!!

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        • ilikebaseball 2

          7 years ago

          No the numbers above are what the arbiter will decided between in the case should it go to arbitration, its why they are posting those numbers,. Its why there is a little thing called a DEADLINE.

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        • Troutmagnet

          7 years ago

          Not only that, but aren’t there lawyer’s feed associated with this process? You’ll probably pay $50k to $70k just to argue it out for a week and then draw up the agreements.

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      • 101reklaw

        7 years ago

        NL_East_Rivalry:
        There are two (2) numbers, asking & offering. The only “realistic” number is what they actually get.

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    • ilikebaseball 2

      7 years ago

      Those are from File and Trial teams.

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    • southi

      7 years ago

      I know that in Foltynewicz’s case he will go to arbitration four times (possibly at least). This is his first time through so that $100,000 difference is sort of a multiplier. If he wins then each of the next three trips through arbitration will build on that number.

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      • SoCalBrave

        7 years ago

        I’m willing to bet the Braves will either sign Folty to a 2 or 4 year deal with options, or trade him.

        Reply
    • SoCalBrave

      7 years ago

      100k this year can mean 500k on next year, 1.5 million the year after 4 million on the last year.

      Reply
    • mrnatewalter

      7 years ago

      It’s silly. I mean, I get that an extra 100K is an extra 100K. These guys want to maximize on their earning potential, but at the same time, is it worth it?

      Jeremy Affeldt, in his book, wrote about how awful the arbitration process is. How teams will try to portray you as untalented and worthless. He said that the Royals’ team lawyer actually said “the reason more fans don’t come to games in Kansas City to watch the Royals play is that they can’t stand to watch you pitch.”

      I mean, is all that worth what you’d pay some 25th roster guy to play through the month of June?

      Reply
  3. argenys h.

    7 years ago

    Thank Kendall Graveman number can’t be right.

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    • eduardoaraisa98

      7 years ago

      The man doesn’t want that much money

      Reply
      • ralph 3

        7 years ago

        Grendal Kaveman!

        Reply
  4. velorum

    7 years ago

    “Graveman filed at $2.6MM, Oakland countered at $5.3MM” what?

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    • erauber

      7 years ago

      I’m guessing flip flop it…

      Reply
    • bluegorilla

      7 years ago

      Strailey’s number is lower than the Marlins’ as well.

      Reply
    • bradenbaseball18

      7 years ago

      Click on the twitter link to see the real numbers; Jeff made a typo, that’s all.

      Reply
    • Solaris601

      7 years ago

      Same goes for Dan Straily and Miami who offered him more than he was asking, and they couldn’t settle?

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  5. niedenfuer92

    7 years ago

    So Dan Straily won’t take more than what he filed? Lol

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    • ef1t

      7 years ago

      “i know what I’m worth.”

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  6. timyanks

    7 years ago

    straily asked for less than team offered. still unsigned?

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  7. bernbabybern

    7 years ago

    Heh, a couple of these are illogical.

    Reply
  8. natsgm

    7 years ago

    Graveman drives a hard bargain

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  9. TwinsHomer

    7 years ago

    Miami fighting Straily over 20k? What the…

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    • timyanks

      7 years ago

      no fighting, just take my money

      Reply
    • MB923

      7 years ago

      The difference is 180k. Not 20k

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      • TwinsHomer

        7 years ago

        Pretty sure at a point yesterday it said 3.57 – 3.55

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  10. rtr5953

    7 years ago

    Graveman and Straily should have accepted the overpay lol

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    • Michael Chaney

      7 years ago

      It was clearly a typo

      Reply
  11. Aaron Sapoznik

    7 years ago

    Avisail Garcia and the White Sox will most certainly settle their arbitration case. It has been a long time (2001) since the club has had an arbiter decide a salary. The gap isn’t very wide and I’d be shocked if the dispute drags on much further. Of course, the possibility remains that Garcia could still be dealt before any hearing since he is one of the few remaining short term veterans who possess any real trade value with the rebuilding White Sox.

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  12. rtr5953

    7 years ago

    A’s offered Graveman 2.36
    Mia offered Straily 3.37

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    • Jeff Todd

      7 years ago

      Thanks, fixed.

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  13. Eric 32

    7 years ago

    Jose Iglesias is asking a bit much for a guy who put up a .650 OPS over the past two seasons.

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    • Hiro

      7 years ago

      His argument has to be his prestigious defence then.

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      • Michael Chaney

        7 years ago

        True, but defense doesn’t pay much in arbitration. Counting stats do.

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        • rememberthecoop

          7 years ago

          Defense doesn’t pay much. But defence does.

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        • infractor

          7 years ago

          You realize it’s spelled both ways, right?

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      • Eric 32

        7 years ago

        There are other good defensive shortstops that can hit a little, I don’t think Iglesias’ defense is that great that you’d ignore his other shortcomings.

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  14. NicTaylor

    7 years ago

    Please Redsox, don’t piss of Betts like you did Lester. Offer him a decent pay with incentive to sign long term. Done eff this one up

    Reply
  15. card collector18

    7 years ago

    Straily filed at $3.55MM, Miami countered at $3.57MM

    LOL come on now

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    • Jeff Todd

      7 years ago

      Yes, there was a typo.

      Reply
  16. gojirasreign

    7 years ago

    LoL imagine the look on the agents faces of Straily and Graveman when they said “NO DAMMIT I SAID I WANT LESS THAT THAT!!!” Classic hehe

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  17. realgone2

    7 years ago

    Hah. Shelby miller…….

    Reply
  18. disgruntledreader 2

    7 years ago

    Brad Hand is a pretty notable name who didn’t settle, but isn’t included here.

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  19. Michael Chaney

    7 years ago

    I know some of these teams are file and trial, and I know that arbitration salaries DO serve as baselines and increase exponentially over multiple years…but the difference in some of these is just ridiculous. You mean to tell me that the Braves and Folty are going to risk a hearing and all that goes with it over (what’s now) $100,000?

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    • kherz23

      7 years ago

      $100,000 is a lot of money, Michael

      Reply
    • SoCalBrave

      7 years ago

      100k on his first arbitration can turn into millions on his last. I think they’re going to sign him long term before the arbitration hearing

      Reply
  20. sufferforsnakes

    7 years ago

    Tribe gives Danny “Mr Inconsistent” Salazar $5 million, but only offer Bauer $5.3 million?
    Now that’s dumb.

    Reply
  21. Paul Heyman

    7 years ago

    Where’s the lamb sauce?

    Reply
  22. Ski to Coors

    7 years ago

    Breaking news, Marlins front office is cheap.

    Reply
  23. jd396

    7 years ago

    I don’t think some people quite get that the arbitration numbers aren’t necessarily reflective of the negotiations that go on between the team and the player to attempt to avoid arbitration.

    Reply
  24. coldgoldenfalstaff

    7 years ago

    Yeah often when the numbers are so close, there’s enough wiggle room to settle before the hearing.

    Reply
  25. socalbaseballdude

    7 years ago

    Why are the Red Sox all of a sudden trying to lowball Betts? This guy has 55 HR’s, 88 doubles and 215 RBI’s the last two years!!! This is a critical, strategical error. Whatever he signs for this year won’t matter. He’ll sign elsewhere when he hits free agency. Bad karma BoSox!

    Reply
  26. B-Strong

    7 years ago

    I don’t see Mookie winning this. I also see him turning sour grapes after this and walking from Boston when he hits free agency which is unfortunate as he would likely be the new face of the team by then with Pedy likely being close to wrapping his career if he keeps getting injured.

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    • soxfan1

      7 years ago

      Agree completely B-Strong. I’m on the teams side here. Go public multiple times about how you will not sign long term and the team is not going to do you any favors. MLBTR projected him at 8.2 and Boston offered 7.5 while he requested 10.5. He’s not going to win that. Should have filed (and hopefully they will just settle) at 9 M.

      Reply

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