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AL East Notes: Beltran, Rays, Yankees, Orioles

By Steve Adams and Jeff Todd | February 13, 2018 at 8:15am CDT

Just-retired slugger Carlos Beltran turned down a front office role with the Yankees earlier this offseason, reports The Athletic’s Marc Carig (subscription link). Beltran says that only a managerial position would’ve dissuaded him from his plan to take at least a year off from the game after retiring as a player, but he would consider other roles in the future. Carig chronicles Beltran’s indoctrination to the business side of baseball, which began back in a 2003 arbitration hearing with the Royals. Now, Beltran draws praise from executives like Cashman and field staff like Astros manager A.J. Hinch, who both effused praise for Beltran’s baseball acumen and future in the game in interviews with Carig.

Elsewhere in the AL East…

  • Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times examines some of the many open questions facing the Rays as camp opens. He says the organization is still “working hard through the spring thaw” to work out trades that will draw down payroll. Interestingly, that could come through some kind of swap that includes not only a pitcher but also a more expensive position player, says Topkin, who suggests that Corey Dickerson or Denard Span could be moved along with righty Jake Odorizzi. That concept seemingly increases the variety of potential outcomes that one might imagine, though it doesn’t help provide much clarity to an overall market situation that remains largely unresolved as camps open.
  • The Orioles have discussed the possibility of a non-roster invitation to Spring Training for Pedro Alvarez, Michael Bourn, Colby Rasmus and Michael Saunders within the past week, according to Eduardo A. Encina of the Baltimore Sun. It’s a bargain-hunter’s collection of names, considering the fact that higher-profile left-handed bats such as Logan Morrison, Carlos Gonzalez, Jon Jay and Jarrod Dyson remain available in free agency. (Morrison, of course, isn’t an outfielder at this point in his career, though the same is true of Alvarez.) The O’s have been interested in Rasmus and Saunders in prior offseasons, Encina notes, though it’s not clear what Rasmus’ plans are at present. The veteran outfielder stepped away from the game for personal reasons last July, and there hasn’t been much mention of him this winter.
  • While he still expects the Orioles to acquire at least one starter via trade or free agency, Dan Connolly of BaltimoreBaseball.com also indicates that he expects right-hander Mike Wright to get another opportunity to prove himself in the rotation in April. The 28-year-old Wright is out of minor league options, Connolly notes, adding that the Orioles do not want to give up on Wright despite a lack of results in the Majors. Wright has a paltry 5.86 ERA, 5.46 FIP and 5.16 xFIP in 144 2/3 big league innings, but he’s been considerably better in Triple-A, where he owns a lifetime 3.53 ERA in 389 2/3 frames — including a flat 3.00 ERA in 240 1/3 innings across the past three seasons.
  • Beyond all the other uncertainties permeating the game this spring, there are still a fair number of unresolved arbitration cases, as our 2018 MLB Arbitration Tracker shows. As Ben Nicholson-Smith of Sportsnet.ca notes on Twitter, Blue Jays righty Marcus Stroman had his hearing yesterday, though results aren’t yet known. Meanwhile, Orioles starter Kevin Gausman is still hoping to work something out rather than heading for a hearing tomorrow, as Roch Kubatko of MASNsports.com tweets.
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  1. Christopher_Oriole

    7 years ago

    Orioles looking at bargain basement options? No way. I can’t even believe it.

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  2. xabial

    7 years ago

    In a teeny-tiny sample, that was 2017

    Pedro Avarez hit .313/.353/.438

    with 1 HR, 4 RBI, 4 Runs.

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    • xabial

      7 years ago

      Alvarez*

      Even had a Positive UZR (+0.1) but Def was negative (-0.7)

      He only had 34 PA in 14 games, but he had 595 PA in AAA^

      Not too long ago, this guy would’ve been worth more. He’s slugged 20+ home runs, .200+ ISO, .469+ SLG, positive BsR, with .240ish BA (.243-.249) each his previous 2 seasons before 2017.

      Don’t look up his Defensive stats.

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    • gorav114

      7 years ago

      Prob is that was during call-up time at the end of the year and hes just not good on defense. The O’s have Trumbo and Davis clogging 1st and DH.
      Pedro can rake in a platoon but hard to platoon a guy with no glove. The O’s expiremented with him as corner outfielder which only lasted two months.

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  3. brewcrew08

    7 years ago

    Brewers should attach Dickerson to Odorizzi to lower the overall asking price.

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    • hamelin4mvp

      7 years ago

      Oh great, another OF to find playing time for. No thanks.

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    • MilTown8888

      7 years ago

      They’d have to bring in a third team since brewers dont have room for another of

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    • mp2891

      7 years ago

      Why would that lower the asking price? Dickerson doesn’t have a guaranteed contract, so he can be released at a cost of about $1 million. Rays aren’t going to lower their asking price for Odo over $1 million.

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      • barnard

        7 years ago

        All mlb contracts are fully guaranteed

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        • mp2891

          7 years ago

          That’s not correct. Arbitration contracts are not guaranteed, as a club can release a player on or before the 16th day of Spring Training and be responsible for only 30 days worth of pay. Players cut between the 17th and the final day of Spring Training must be compensated for 45 days worth of pay (at the prorated version of their arbitration salary). But if a player that agreed to an arbitration salary breaks camp with the club, his contract is fully guaranteed. See m.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/guaranteed-contrac…

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    • therealryan

      7 years ago

      Why would adding Corey Dickerson lower the asking price?

      Dickerson is going into his age 29 season. He has been an above average hitter in over 2000 career PA and has averaged 2 WAR/500 PA for his career, including 2.5 WAR last season. He has improved his defense to the point that he has been an average defender in LF the last couple of seasons. He also is affordable and has 2 years of control with this years salary <$6 million.

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      • Bruin1012

        7 years ago

        It wouldn’t lower the asking price it would actually increase price quite a bit Dickerson is a solid player.

        Reply
  4. stansfield123

    7 years ago

    Remember how a few years ago the big complaint was that smaller teams can’t compete in the free agent market because the Yankees are too rich? Well here you are: the Yankees and Dodgers are not participating in the free agent market.

    Where’s the competition? Why aren’t they competing this year? Why are there top free agents going into spring training unsigned?

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    • Tom E. Snyder

      7 years ago

      The reason small market teams are not more active in the FA market is that FAs are still demanding Yankee and Dodger prices.

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    • Tavares

      7 years ago

      Maybe if you checked the contract demands of, e.g., JDM, Hosmer and their rejected offers, you could have a clue

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    • docmilo5

      7 years ago

      The big FAs are free next year.. Why spend big money on guys with flaws this year?

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    • drock2722

      7 years ago

      I agree about the smaller market teams need to be participating more, especially considering everyone is getting $50 million from I believe Bamtech (I forgot the name of the company. I just think it’s funny to see complaints because the luxury tax is essentially doing what it’s supposed to which is make things more even in free agency.

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    • jdgoat

      7 years ago

      Because they all have massive red flags and will cripple their budget for years to come

      Reply
  5. Paul Heyman

    7 years ago

    Wow Colby Rasmus signed a minor league with Baltimore and I never knew about it.

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    • CardsNation5

      7 years ago

      No he didn’t. Can’t you read?

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    • yankeeaddiction

      7 years ago

      Most people don’t keep tabs on Colby Rasmus.

      Reply
  6. Paul Heyman

    7 years ago

    *deal

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  7. E munchy

    7 years ago

    That is the most Orioles article I’ve ever read. This infatuation with Saunders and Rasmus always amazes me. They should just get a room over a weekend and get it over with those guys because they bring absolutely nothing to the team except being a body.

    Unless everyone currently on the team has a career year all at the same time every year in the foreseeable future they can forget about being competitive anytime soon. The only hope they have is after DD is gone and after Angelos dies.
    Because their current philosophy and business model has been rendered obsolete and needs to be DELETED!!!

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  8. Jerry Handy

    7 years ago

    Here comes the no want to pay oriole not trying to upgrade because they do not want to spend money just to but a team on field

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  9. baseball10

    7 years ago

    Wouldn’t mind the Braves taking a shot on Dickerson. Even though they aren’t talking about it they still need a corner OF with some pop. Acuna needs to start the year in the minors and Markakis can move to a bench role later on in the year if need be

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  10. Tom E. Snyder

    7 years ago

    The reason small market teams are not more active in the FA market is that FAs are still demanding Yankee and Dodger prices.

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  11. IACub

    7 years ago

    Are the Rays trying to keep payroll down until they get a new stadium or is that just the Tampa Bay market? It would seem kindof futile to keep a team there if they have to re build their core every couple years.

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    • mp2891

      7 years ago

      2018 is a reset year for the Rays. They have a bunch of rookies taking prominent positions with the team (Bauers at 1B, Adames at SS, Arroyo at 2B/3B, Honeywell in the rotation, and possibly J. Williams at LF), so there isn’t much hope that we’ll be a playoff team this year and we also don’t want to block our prospects from midseason promotions. That being said, the Rays are at about $75 million in payroll, which is higher than they want to be (as ridiculous as that may be).

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  12. yankeeaddiction

    7 years ago

    There is still a good chance the Orioles have a better record than the Cubs.

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    • xabial

      7 years ago

      Yankee fan too, but can I ask why, you like getting down-voted so much?

      With division, and team adds, this comment makes no sense to me.

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      • thegreatcerealfamine

        7 years ago

        xabial just taking a stab,maybe he’s just tired of the Cubs BW overload…

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    • Sideline Redwine

      7 years ago

      I wish I knew you so I could lay money down. Prob a Cub hater, but that may be the dumbest comment on here (and there is plenty of competition)

      Reply
    • soggycereal

      7 years ago

      i’m no higher on the cubs than you are(personally i think they need twice as much depth than they have, both with pitching and positional), but let’s face it, the orioles suck. unless trumbo, davis, hardy, okay,

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      • soggycereal

        7 years ago

        oday*, hunter, bundy, sisco, mancini and many others return to their previous form or hit their full potential, they will be no better than the braves

        Reply
  13. leavejackburtonalone

    7 years ago

    The fear for many Orioles’ fans was that the team wasn’t going to commit to a rebuild and they weren’t going to commit to going all in for 2018, instead they were just going to be stuck in the middle and do nothing. There’s still plenty of free agents out there but it’s looking like they will be stuck in the middle.

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  14. gorav114

    7 years ago

    The Orioles have no choice but to give Wright another opportunity. The encouraging thing he has done well in the minors, bad news is AAA is pitcher park. He along with Michael Kelly, Castro, and Cortes Jr. are all wildcards. Hopefully one of them seizes the opportunity.

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  15. angelsinthetroutfield

    7 years ago

    What’s a realistic Halos/Rays deal for Odorizzi? Brandon Marsh a fair starting point?

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    • mp2891

      7 years ago

      A lot of Rays fans would say yes, as a starting point. Rays might insist on Jones though. See article/comments at this link – draysbay.com/2018/2/10/16994786/mlb-trade-rumors-t…

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      • halos and quacks

        7 years ago

        Absolutely not. A 4 starter who isn’t much better than any of the angels 4-9 starters(if at all). he had a 5.43 fip last year. The angels would be silly to include any top prospects for odorizzi. They have too many 4-6 starters as it is. The last thing they need to do is overpay for another one.

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        • mp2891

          7 years ago

          All fair points. However, you could also base a trade on the belief that Jake simply had a bad year last year and could be in line for a bounce back year similar to his 2015 numbers (3.61 FIP; 2.9 WAR) and 2016 numbers (4.31 FIP; 2.1 WAR).

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        • halos and quacks

          7 years ago

          Teams would rather go buy a cheap Vargas/ Garcia type then overpay in prospects for a guy they HOPE to have a bounce back. Rays need to get real with their price for him. He just isn’t that good any more

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        • mp2891

          7 years ago

          Not sure I agree with you. Vargas’ numbers in 2017 weren’t much better and he’s a lot older than Odo (ie: almost no chance of significant improvement in 2018). But hey, if you think Odorizzi is done and has nothing to offer, then that’s fine. Rays won’t trade with the Angels. Perhaps we won’t trade Odorizzi at all; although I suspect Odorizzi is moved in the next week. Time will tell.

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        • halos and quacks

          7 years ago

          I don’t necessarily think he is done. I just don’t think he’s all that good, and the rays are trying to sell high. Maybe if they wait he can put up some better numbers then he can be a chip at the deadline

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        • mp2891

          7 years ago

          I don’t think the Rays are trying to sell high, but they aren’t willing to give him away either. Look at what the Rays got for Matt Moore and Drew Smyly. Both were coming off less than stellar years and the Buyers paid more than the current year’s production warranted. It didn’t really work out in either case, but that’s the trade template the Rays are holding to. A 50-55FV prospect (or existing MLBer the Rays covet) will be required at a minimum for Odorizzi. 45FV players won’t get it done, no matter how many of them you throw our way.

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    • soggycereal

      7 years ago

      although we need a durable arm, i have faith that we will be okay with starter depth this year, with our 6-man as well as tropeano, bridwell, and others as valuable depth pieces. we realistically should be looking for a Tony Watson-type lefty who can sit at the top of the bullpen.

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  16. osfandan

    7 years ago

    Orioles will do something. This is Duqette’s dream….ST and half the free agents still on the board. This BS crop of players is probably just being used to urge guys like CarGo to drop their demands just a tad. That is, if they want a job on Opening Day…

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  17. Sideline Redwine

    7 years ago

    If the Rays hold on to Span and trade Dickerson, it will provide the final proof this FO is clueless. We traded Longo for salary relief…and got an overpriced, over-the-hill outfielder who is too expensive. Nice work. Now they may trade arguably the team’s best hitter? If he comes close to his early 2017 hitting, he is far and away our best offensive player. But hey, let’s keep the aging cf who can not hit for average or power and can no longer steal bases. Brilliant. Ugh.

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    • mp2891

      7 years ago

      You’re not seeing the big picture. For the Longo trade to work for San Fran, they needed to unload Span’s salary to stay under the luxury tax. Rays still unloaded a net $70 million in salary on a declining player, which is pretty good. Also, it is pretty clear that the market didn’t value Longo as highly as Rays fans expected, and to get Arroyo, who the team is high on, the Rays needed to sweeten the deal by taking back Span. As much as I like Dickerson, there is a real risk that his post-ASB numbers are the real Dickerson, and if so, he will be grossly overpaid in 2018 at $6 million (based on the current market), so if they trade him, I would expect some of his salary savings to be used to sign a cheaper rental for 2018. Lastly, an argument can be made that the Rays’ window of contention opens in 2019 and that 2018 is a reset year, and since there is no way Dickerson will be a Ray in 2019 at a salary of $10 million, it might make sense to capitalize on his value in 2018 by swapping him for a younger player the Rays are high on. All of which leads to this – The Rays don’t want a dumpster fire for 2018, but it’s clear that the FO is constructing a roster for 2019 on more so than one designed to compete in 2018. I expect a 70-75 win season and a lot of optimism for 2019 by the end of the season.

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