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Quick Hits: Asia Prospects, Former Prospects, DL Usage

By Kyle Downing | February 10, 2018 at 10:42am CDT

Fangraphs analysis is as sharp and poignant as ever, providing deep looks into a number of interesting subjects over the past few days. Among those pieces is one by Sung Min Kim, who offers detailed scouting reports on six MLB prospects currently playing in Asia. The list is limited to players who would be available to leave Asia in the next three years; players on the list have also either expressed interest in coming to MLB or not publicly refuted the possibility. Among these six players is Yusei Kikuchi, a lefty fireballer who has openly expressed a strong desire to play in MLB (Kim compares him to Patrick Corbin). Another interesting name on the list is outfielder Po-Jung Wang of the Chinese Professional Baseball League; he’s won two MVPs and put up a .407/.491/.700 slash line in the CPBL. Anyone interested in tracking baseball players who might transition from Asia leagues to MLB should certainly give this list a thorough read.

A couple of other interesting articles from Fangraphs…

  • Eric Longenhagen did some scouting of his own for his latest piece, though he focused on players who have already cracked a major-league roster. Specifically, Longenhagen has notes on twelve players who have already graduated from prospect status but have somewhat uncertain futures and only a small sample size of MLB playing time to draw from. Astros righty Francis Martes, for example, is described as a player who is “athletic enough to merit command projection in the minors, but we haven’t seen him need to work efficiently for a while because he was bullpen’d last year.” New Cardinals addition Miles Mikolas is said to have improved command after a stint in Japan, and currently profiles as a solid fourth starter. The list has some interesting names who haven’t been frequently covered, and can provide avid fans with a few intriguing storylines to follow for the coming season.
  • Many aspects of MLB gameplay are changing at a rapid pace. One of the more extreme examples is DL usage, which Travis Sawchik covered recently. Last year’s switch from a 15-day DL to a 10-day DL resulted in a record number of DL stints, as predicted. Clubs like the Dodgers used it aggressively as a roster manipulation tool, making it “something of a revolving, de facto 26th-man roster spot.” Sawchik expects that we’ll see an increase in the number of DL stints once again next year. He also notes that even with the five-day reduction from 15 to 10, there was only a marginal decrease in the total number of days players spent on the DL last season, which perhaps implies that players overall were not very healthy in 2017.
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  1. fasbal1

    8 years ago

    Miles Mikolas was terrible in the big leagues and is one outing from being terrible again. His success overseas does not indicate success in the big leagues. This experiment is the Cardinals going on the cheap and hoping for lighting in a bottle. They should have given Lynn some love and brought him back.

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    • Jack Taddy

      8 years ago

      They did offer him over $17 million of love for just 1 season but he didn’t want it.

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      • jodygerut

        8 years ago

        That’s a ridiculous response. The decision to forego a guaranteed 17m is based on whether he can command at least 18m guaranteed elsewhere, which he can reasonably do when considering multi-year offers. Rejecting the QO was a no-brainer.

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        • brucenewton

          8 years ago

          Lance Lynn is not getting 18 a year for multi-years.

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        • iverbure

          8 years ago

          Especially with a pick attached to him. All these people that are acting like Lynn can’t be replaced is baffling. Lynn is exactly the kind of guy who should be easily replaceable if the team is ran good and has a farm system. Locking up average starters who just logs innings for free agent type money is a good way to get stuck with a bad pitcher only a couple years down the road.

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        • aff10

          8 years ago

          He doesn’t need an $18M AAV to make it worth rejecting a QO. Even if he ends up settling for something like 4/$55M, that’s exponentially better than 1/$17M, even if his salary next year will be lower than it would’ve been had he taken a QO

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      • stansfield123

        8 years ago

        Oh, okay. Then it’s fine. Cardinals can field a triple A team, and you can root for them. Sounds like you deserve each other.

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    • lowtalker1

      8 years ago

      He was ok he just had issues staying out of the middle of the plate and locating
      It’s possible he fixed it

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      • kenneth cole

        8 years ago

        Yeah he actually had good stuff. Good curve and decent life on his fastball in Texas. Watch him have a good year if he stays healthy.

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  2. TomBradyrings

    8 years ago

    They should invest in a closer and third baseman. Mikolos actually is far from their biggest problem.

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    • seamaholic 2

      8 years ago

      I’m far from a Cards fan but even I know that Gyorko is better than a lot of starting 3B. He’s no Arenado, but he’s not crying out for an upgrade.

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      • cards4141

        8 years ago

        *slow clap*

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    • timyanks

      8 years ago

      cardinals need to invest in another manager, or give matheny a new playbook. as long as they pin their hopes on carpenter, they’re bound to fail.

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      • brucewayne

        8 years ago

        Carp had shoulder problems all last year! He’s projected to be the utility player for the Cards this year. They want Voit or Martinez to win the 1B job.

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  3. Bert17

    8 years ago

    I wonder if one byproduct of the DL change is that teams start moving their Triple A clubs as close to the MLB team as possible. For example, if the Red Sox are going to start shuttling guy’s back and forth and want to swap out lefty/righty relievers to deal with one opponent’s lineup on Thursday and a different one on Friday, it’ll be nice to have Pawtucket only 45 miles away from Fenway (and their double A Portland team only about 100 miles away).

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    • timyanks

      8 years ago

      only works if the redsox are at home

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      • timyanks

        8 years ago

        or in the northeast

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        • Priggs89

          8 years ago

          So the majority of their games…

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    • iverbure

      8 years ago

      Changing the DL time from 15 to 10 was one of those ideas that seemed like a good idea at first but once we saw how it was being abused was only a half good idea. 10 day DL for position players 15 day DL for pitchers seems to be the way to go. Forcing teams to develop RP pitchers who can pitch more then 1 inning is necessary if you want the game times to come down. Even if you are someone who isn’t smart and keeps yelling every time someone will listen “keep the game the way it is”! You know that a endless parade of nameless RP who can throw 95 mph plus from AAA isn’t exactly great from entertaining and eventually will lead to 9 pitchers for every inning.

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  4. 66TheNumberOfTheBest

    8 years ago

    The Prospects Week at FG was fantastic coverage. It also called for a few of the narratives around the Pirates to be reexamined…

    “They didn’t get a top 100 prospect for Gerrit Cole”. Actually, they did. Colin Moran and his swing change were ranked #53. Musgrove would still make the list were he eligible.

    “They should have taken the higher upside package from the Yankees because Clint Frazier is better than anything the Pirates got (or even everything the Pirates got).” Actually, Joe Musgrove is ranked #14 (55 PV/55 FV) on their look at recently graduated prospects while Frazier (45 PV/50 FV) is ranked below him at #28. Moran is, again, a top 100 prospect (same FV as Frazier). Feliz will be on the 25 man. So, they did much better with the Astros deal than the Frazier OR Adams but not both offer from NYY.

    “The Pirates need to tear it all down and rebuild.” Actually, by rarely trading their prosects combined with some smart trades, the Pirates have been quietly rebuilding while contending the past half decade and their next core is about a year away.

    They have 5 of FG’s top 75 prospects (Keller, Meadows, Hayes, Sanchez, Tucker) on the Top 100 list. Bell, Musgrove and Glasnow feature prominently on the list of players who have recently lost prospect status. They will likely target prospects close to MLB or young MLB players in a Harrison deal at midseason.

    This team will learn, grow and build for year, maybe 18 months, but then will be fully loaded for another window of contention (as best a small market team can be) with less down time than the burn it all down rebuilds.

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    • jb19

      8 years ago

      As an Astros fan, I would still do that deal 100 out of 100 times. Musgrove needs to stick as a starter, and I think he can. Moran just needs an opportunity, he wasn’t going to get that in Houston. He also hasn’t been on the top 100 prospect list for a while. Feliz needs better control. But his stuff is filthy. Jason Martin is a “throw in” but there is potential there. Astros have a log jam in the OF with Reddick, Springer, Marisnick, Fisher and Tucker. All have 3+ seasons of control left.

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      • kenneth cole

        8 years ago

        Lol. Musgrove ain’t good.

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        • lowtalker1

          8 years ago

          Musgrove reminds me of quackenbush
          Started strong but gets figured out rather quickly

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        • mlb1225

          8 years ago

          I’m not saying Musgrove is going to be the ace of the entire staff, but he’s better than you think. Second half of the season, he produced a 2.23 ERA, after mainly working as a long relief guy out of the pen. Take away that one start after the all star break, he has an ERA under 1.50 (1.44 to be exact).

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      • 66TheNumberOfTheBest

        8 years ago

        Yep. The realities of the 25 and 40 man roster makes it a great consolidation deal for the Astros.

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    • Kenleyfornia74

      8 years ago

      Yeah the outrage they didn’t take a package headed by Fraizer is ridiculous

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    • mlb1225

      8 years ago

      Now while having young players, and up and coming prospects is good, you need to add proven MLB talent to the pot as well. The Pirates will never spend on any big free agents, or even ones that are decent. Right now, ownership is too cheap to give Huntington enough money to do such. I’m afraid, when it is time, when the prospects are developed, players that are young now, but in their prime then, they will still not spend on any quality FA’s, or trade for any players that could help them reach their goals of winning.

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  5. notagain27

    8 years ago

    I would imagine part of the DL issues the Dodgers had were caused by trying to figure out if Rich Hill’s blister had healed or Brandon McCarthy’s shoulder would hold up for a few innings. Seems like those two guys were on and off the DL every other week.

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  6. Mattimeo09

    8 years ago

    Really off topic but has anyone else seen the batting practice video for Ohtani? It’s kinda crazy

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    • lowtalker1

      8 years ago

      I think he will be a bust

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      • timyanks

        8 years ago

        hitting or pitching?

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      • dwhitt3

        8 years ago

        Hot take

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  7. stymeedone

    8 years ago

    I find it humorous that an article that talks about a team using the 10 day dl as a 26th man, then states that the same number of days were used, then concludes that overall, players werent healthy. Really?!

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  8. thomasg2018

    8 years ago

    Martes doesn’t have a head for baseball. Just like Singleton.
    Needs to drop some tonnage!!

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  9. Phillies2017

    8 years ago

    Speaking of prospects playing in Asia- when is somebody going to pick up Livan Moinelo. I’ve been preaching about this kid for years, but he’s got great groundball tendencies, a good fastball and he’s 22. Could be a very great reliever.

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  10. rememberthecoop

    8 years ago

    I wonder what the impetus is for MLBTR to go out of their way to point out that “Fangraphs analysis is as sharp and poignant as ever…”? Fangraphs has lost some talent recently, so perhaps they asked this site to say that as a favor? Or maybe the fact that this site has used their analysis quite a bit over the years gave them the feeling they “owed” this to them? No big deal, I suppose, but it just seems kind of out of the ordinary. Sure, they often encourage viewers to read through a whole article, and say that “subscriptions required and recommended,” but this seems a bit more of an ‘in your face’ type of statement.

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  11. rememberthecoop

    8 years ago

    If the contracts weren’t guaranteed, I’m certain there would be far fewer trips to the DL.

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    • Joe Kerr

      8 years ago

      yeah good luck getting that to ever happen without an extremely long strike.

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