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Cafardo’s Latest: Yanks, Drury, Gray, O’s, Jays, Donaldson, Hamels, Marlins, Straily

By Connor Byrne | July 22, 2018 at 8:17am CDT

Third baseman Brandon Drury was in the package the Yankees offered the Orioles for shortstop Manny Machado, Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe reports. The Yankees’ proposal didn’t suffice for the Orioles, who sent Machado to the Dodgers for a five-player return on Wednesday. Drury has also been part of a 2018 trade, an offseason deal in which he went from the Diamondbacks to the Yankees, but he hasn’t been able to find steady playing time in New York. After entering the season as the Yankees’ starting third baseman, the 25-year-old Drury headed to the disabled list with migraines in early April, paving the way for rookie Miguel Andujar’s emergence at the hot corner. While Drury also offers a fair amount of experience at second base and in the corner outfield, the Yankees have set starters in those spots.

Thanks largely to the presences of Andujar, Gleyber Torres, Aaron Judge, Giancarlo Stanton and Brett Gardner, Drury has amassed just 54 plate appearances with the Yankees and spent most of the season in the minors. Drury hasn’t done much in his limited work with New York, as his .184/.259/.286 batting line demonstrates, but he has posted a .294/.403/.447 slash in 233 Triple-A plate appearances. He’s also not far removed from a decent showing with Arizona, where he batted .275/.323/.453 with 29 HRs in 979 PAs from 2016-17, and comes with a cheap salary ($621,900) and three years of arbitration eligibility. Perhaps the Yankees will find a taker for Drury in the near future, then, though they’re surely not in a hurry to give away any depth.

  • Sticking with the Yankees, Cafardo relays that teams are scouting right-hander Sonny Gray, and some clubs are under the impression New York wants to trade him. The Yankees paid a high price to the A’s for Gray at last year’s trade deadline, but the move hasn’t worked out as hoped for the Bombers. Gray has taken sizable steps backward this season, with a 5.34 ERA/4.42 FIP in 96 innings, and may not be worthy of trusting in a playoff series should the Yankees get to that point. The 28-year-old’s making $6.5MM in 2018 and is only controllable via arbitration for one more season.
  • The Blue Jays “hope” to trade pending free-agent third baseman Josh Donaldson this summer, according to Cafardo. A superstar with Oakland and Toronto from 2013-16, Donaldson’s amid his second straight injury-plagued year and has only appeared in 36 games this season. Not only has Donaldson been on the DL twice (including since May 29 because of calf tightness), but he hasn’t offered his usual excellent production when healthy. The 32-year-old has hit a middling .234/.333/.423 in 159 plate appearances, helping to hurt his value on the trade market and hamper his future earning power. In the event Donaldson returns in the coming weeks, he could wind up as an August trade piece, though his injury problems, decline in production and lofty salary ($23MM) would make it difficult for Toronto to get much back in a deal.
  • It’s “likely” the Rangers will find a trade partner for left-hander Cole Hamels, writes Cafardo, who adds that the Phillies, Yankees and Braves undoubtedly have interest. The Red Sox may also be among teams with Hamels on their radar, per Cafardo. Phillies general manager Matt Klentak doesn’t seem keen on dipping into the trade market for starters, though, and it’s no lock Hamels would even be part of the solution for them or any other team. The 34-year-old’s struggles this season are well known, and his $22.5MM salary for 2018 and $6MM buyout for 2019 don’t help matters.
  • Marlins righty Dan Straily is drawing interest, per Cafardo. The 29-year-old’s not having a particularly good season (4.02 ERA/5.27 FIP with 7.24 K/9, 4.25 BB/9 and a 33.5 percent groundball rate over 78 1/3 innings), but he’s affordable and controllable. Straily’s on a $3.37MM salary this season and has another two years of arbitration eligibility remaining.
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  1. c1234

    7 years ago

    No surprise Yankees tried to pull off another weak trade

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    • Adam6710

      7 years ago

      How can you grade a trade when you don’t know what was in it? And it really shouldn’t surprise you. Cashman has pulled off many trades that heavily favored them.

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      • jb19

        7 years ago

        No top 100 prospects and Brandon Drury for Manny Machado? That sounds like a yankees’ fan’s idea of a “fair trade.”

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        • qbass187

          7 years ago

          Yankee fans think other teams want all their trash and should be happy it was even offered.

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        • jekporkins

          7 years ago

          Yankee fans also say their top prospects are leagues better than other teams’ prospects, and should be considered gold compared to bronze. I’ve read that here a couple times in the last month and I shake my head every time a Yankee fan reacts to trade proposals.

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        • rocky7

          7 years ago

          So I would guess all you Yankee haters think that the Dodgers return was “solid Gold” for a rental player that will test the free agent market.
          I guess you can’t teach dumb!

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        • rocky7

          7 years ago

          jb19….I guess you and Cash worked long into the night crafting the trade proposal for Machado that ultimately failed the way you talk about knowing what was in the proposal other than what that blowhard Cafardo says…..too bad but you’ll catch up on your sleep as you seem to be half asleep as you write your comments!

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        • Bocephus

          7 years ago

          They obviously sit on their hands hoping for meaningless stuff like this. Cafardo has even less credibility than Stormy Daniels.

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        • driftcat28 2

          7 years ago

          To be fair, a lot of the yankees “trash” still tops other teams minor leaguers

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        • Adam6710

          7 years ago

          Who said it had to be a fair trade? The Yankees weren’t interested in doing a fair trade. Because they didn’t need a shortstop.

          If they could get him for something less, they’d have done it. Maybe use your brain.

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        • yankeeempire

          7 years ago

          Why would they go nuts and offer better players for a 2 Month rental when they already have talent at SS and 3B. Best case scenario happened. He went to NL. They need to get pitching.

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        • KnicksFanCavsFan

          7 years ago

          Where does it say that Drury was the only player on the Yankees side? Torres, Andujar and Sheffield weren’t the only Yankee guys on the earlier released top 100 lists. And if a team had a 3b in thier system they would be happy if he ended up being the next Drury, so don’t sneeze at him either like hrs garbage. He still has 3 to 4 years of control left.

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        • Cuso

          7 years ago

          Where did you read that it didn’t include any top 100 prospects. Oh, that’s right, you didn’t.

          Also, if you believe anything Nick Cafardo writes, you’ve been huffing too much glue.

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        • ac106

          7 years ago

          I don’t think credibility means what you think it means

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        • Boogaloo

          7 years ago

          Judge, Sanchez, Bird, Torres, Green, Holder, Andujar, Severino.

          Hard to imagine where they got the idea their prospects are better, lol.

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        • thecoffinnail

          7 years ago

          Agreed Boogaloo but you left out Betances and Montgomery. Gardner and Robertson were Yankee prospects as well.

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        • Speak da Truth

          7 years ago

          Actually the Dodgers got as good of a chance to sign Machado long term as any team does.Imo i believe it’s why they gave up what they did for him. Hopefully counting on him signing with them once seeing how it is in L.A and how they do in the post season.
          I don’t think they would’ve traded for him if they didn’t think they could persuade him to sign long term with them.

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        • Begamin

          7 years ago

          did you expect the Yankees to dump the farm for a player they didnt need? they probably threw out an offer they were comfortable with. the more desperate you are to fill a position the more comfortable you are giving up more. the yankees had no desperation to fill an infield position so they didnt offer much. its how it goes

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        • Begamin

          7 years ago

          +coffinnail
          dustin fowler, jake cave, and solarte too. just to name a few of ones they traded away

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        • mikeyank55

          7 years ago

          Qbass and Jek-your mommy’s have sounded the alarm clock. It’s time to
          Go home and take Xanax so that your mouths are not foaming when they
          Put you to
          Bed.

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      • mikeyank55

        7 years ago

        There’s a perfectly rationale explanation for CT1234’s post. He’s suffering from Mets syndrome which is a combination of multiple tommy John procedures, a dozen rotator cuff surgeries combined with water deprivation, hip and quad issues coupled with foot problems impacted by hoof and mouth disease.

        WARNING: wear a mask EVERY TIME CT1234 posts or he could infect you!

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    • MB923

      7 years ago

      All it said was that he was in the package. It didn’t say straight up. And as Adam said , Cash has usually been successful with this trades (Hicks, DiDi, Swisher, etc)

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      • tonypro7

        7 years ago

        As an O’s fan I’m very happy with the prospects received from LA. Particularly Diaz of course. I wouldn’t have minded Drury included in a Yankee deal, but with being in the same division the Yankees would’ve had to add at least 2 of their top prospects. According to reports they wouldn’t even offer ONE. I get it…. if they didn’t sign Manny long term they would’ve had to face those prospects for years. But the same goes for the O’s. If they would’ve taken lower Yankee prospects, THEY would’ve heard about it for years. Probably better for everyone that a deal wasn’t made.

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        • KnicksFanCavsFan

          7 years ago

          It doesn’t imply they weren’t willing to give up top prospects. It just said they didn’t want to include Sheff.

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        • thecoffinnail

          7 years ago

          You do realize that the Yankees would be playing against those top 2 prospects for the next 6 years? If the Orioles thought the Yankees package was better than the Dodgers then Machado would be a Yankee right now. Regardless if the Yankees top prospects were included or not. He was a luxury that they took a shot on. Nothing more nothing less. Look through prior deadlines. Teams are very willing to trade 2 month rentals within their own division. They don’t do it when it’s multiple years of control remaining. I seem to remember the Orioles only having to give up one semi-decent pitching prospect to the Red Sox for the best rental reliever on the market a few years ago.

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        • tonypro7

          7 years ago

          It was reported that the Yankees wouldn’t offer any of their top 10 prospects.

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        • tonypro7

          7 years ago

          Coffinnail.. your first sentence. Did you read what I wrote. I said EXACTLY THAT in my post. Also, the semi decent prospect you’re referring to is now 11-3 with 3.44 ERA

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      • Free Clay Zavada

        7 years ago

        Had to go back to Swisher as an example, a trade from like 10 years ago? Haha

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        • Adam6710

          7 years ago

          Giancarlo Stanton, Aaron Hicks, Didi Grigorious, Starlin Castro. All excellent major leaguers acquired at minimal cost of talent over the past 3-4 seasons.

          Does not even include the Chapman and Miller trades that got them Gleyber Torres, Clint Frazier, and Justus Sheffield.

          Very happy with Cashman’s trades, and when I hear a trade didn’t happen (like Machado), I trust it was for a good reason.

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        • MB923

          7 years ago

          I also did DiDi and Hicks which were in the last 3 years.

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        • Mjm117

          7 years ago

          Stanton “minimal” cost was paying 260+million of Stanton’s contract. Besides both prospects that came back to the Fish are doing quite well.

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        • bigkempin

          7 years ago

          Stanton was acquired at a minimal prospect cost because they’re paying the majority ($265M) of his contract.

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          7 years ago

          It was a beneficial trade for both sides. 265 or 365 doesn’t matter they have both the money and threshold space.

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        • arc89

          7 years ago

          Did I miss something when did Drury become a covet piece by other teams. He is nothing more than a back up utility player. They will eventually open up their farm system to trade but it sounded like they didn’t want Machado if Drury is part of the package.

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        • ctcramer46

          7 years ago

          Haha I know. Any team can search through the last 10 years of trades for their team and find 5 examples where it worked out well for them lol

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        • KnicksFanCavsFan

          7 years ago

          Please learn the difference between a utility player vs a player that can play multiple positions. Drury is our utility guy simply because he was “Wally Pipped” by Andujar. Otherwise he’d be our starting 3b. Look at his numbers from 2016 and 2017. Not an all-st s r but certainly could start for most teams at -eb.

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        • jdgoat

          7 years ago

          Knickscavsfan, who would Drury be starting 3b on? His numbers have always been league average at best and were actually below average last year. He is what he is, a utility player.

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        • Boogaloo

          7 years ago

          Ok, which is your team and tell me the 5 great trades.

          Lol

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        • ShieldF123

          7 years ago

          JDGoat, last season with Arizona Drury was good for 1.6 WAR. That is equal to or better than the WAR produced by 18 of the 30 teams in the league at 3B so far this year. So I’m pretty sure he could start at 3B on alot of teams.

          And that includes the Red Sox by the way, who are dead last this year with -0.4 WAR at 3B

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        • jdgoat

          7 years ago

          You can’t say he put up more WAR in a full season than what guys have put up in a half season. How does that possibly make sense? If anything, it hinders your argument. 18 our 30 have already been better than what he was last year

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        • ShieldF123

          7 years ago

          Negative. You have the number wrong first of all.

          12 have been better than his WAR so far in well over half of a season. The All-Star break is not the halfway point. Most teams have already played 100 games. And I’m using a teams TOTAL production at 3B, not just their starter.

          Point still stands that teams like Boston have negative WAR at 3B which is not going to trend upwards or ever come close to what Drury could provide them.

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        • jdgoat

          7 years ago

          Ok I misread a bit. But still, he could not start on a lot of teams like you stated before.

          Almost every team has a primary third baseman that’s better than him.

          The only teams that might not are the Orioles, White Sox, Red Sox, and Twins

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      • rocky7

        7 years ago

        MB923….you don’t have to defend what you said too all the holes that only comment to denigrate the Yankees or their fans…..just idiots talking out of their rear orifice.

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    • luclusciano

      7 years ago

      Like the ones that work? Yeah, pretty weak

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      • c1234

        7 years ago

        I never said a weak trade is a bad thing. It’s smart it’s just that they never give up prospects. They are very good at keeping there prospects.

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        • dobsonel

          7 years ago

          If I recall they gave up several top 100 prospects last year.

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    • rocky7

      7 years ago

      And I guess you would call Oakland’s return to the Mets for Familia by BB a “strong return”?

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    • Judge Judy

      7 years ago

      I don’t know what Cash was thinking. Drury should be saved for a young controllable ace.

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  2. nfunk115

    7 years ago

    Hamels to the Yankees please

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    • rivera42

      7 years ago

      No, thank you.

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  3. jonnymac2for1

    7 years ago

    No surprise? What does that mean?

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  4. xfloydsterx

    7 years ago

    straily to the mariners.

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    • Mjm117

      7 years ago

      For a package highlighted by Sam Carlson or White sure

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    • embalmer

      7 years ago

      Back to the Reds

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      • Mjm117

        7 years ago

        Im down for Santillan and Shed Long

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  5. acarneglia

    7 years ago

    I wonder if Gray could be included in a trade for a higher caliber starter like MadBum or Archer

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    • nyy42

      7 years ago

      Archer is closer to Gray talent than higher caliber!

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      • Mjm117

        7 years ago

        Stop it. Yankees would be doing jumping jacks if they had Archer instead of Gray

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        • Mjm117

          7 years ago

          And why would SF want Gray to give up a top 10 SP?

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        • Adam6710

          7 years ago

          A plausible scenario: SF wants Andujar, Frazier, and Sheffield. Yankees balk at the price, but agree to part with the trio if SF takes Gray.

          I don’t think that happens, and I do believe Gray still has value, but something like that is the way a Gray trade probably happens if at all.

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        • 99Trey

          7 years ago

          Gray doesn’t have negative trade value, his struggles are mental and mostly related to pitching at Yankee stadium, there are tons of teams, especially smaller markets that would love to have a chance to get him for cheap. He keeps pitching like he has the past two starts and the best player available at the deadline could be Sonny Gray.

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        • nyy42

          7 years ago

          Lol

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        • rocky7

          7 years ago

          Don’t think so…..Archer for all the “potential” that has been hyped for years by all doesn’t seem to be able to put a big year together and distinguish himself from the rest of the Rays pitching squad….it seems as if they always have 2-3 pitchers that are on the radar of many teams.
          Gray, was touted as a breakout pitcher that would flourish when surrounded by the offense he needed to succeed. He still can’t get past the 5th inning of even his last 2 wins…..not what the Yankees thought they’d be getting when making the trade….seems like BB fleeced another team with him over-hyped Oakland players!

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        • rocky7

          7 years ago

          Line those teams up right now that want Gray….the Yankees are ready to talk!

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        • grant schibilia

          7 years ago

          Archer isn’t even a 500 pitcher after all these years. He is at best a 4th or 5th starter for the yankees.

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        • KnicksFanCavsFan

          7 years ago

          Archer is a solid #3. Please don’t use wins/losses as your go to stat.

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        • KnicksFanCavsFan

          7 years ago

          Why would the Yanks do that? Gray is not a salary dump. He’s not on some huge multi year dealmi think he earns $6 mil this year, has 1 more arbitration year and then becomes a FA. Yanks could just nin-tenderb him and not owe ANYTHING to him at all past this year. That’s obviously not going to happen t ho as he can still be useful in the back of the rotation.

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        • Adam6710

          7 years ago

          In a vacuum he has positive value, but whether his problems are mental or not, he has put up ghastly numbers and to move him, the Yanks may have to make some concessions.

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        • Boogaloo

          7 years ago

          Ok, which is your team and tell me the 5 great trades.

          Lol

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        • jdgoat

          7 years ago

          Trey, No team is going to write of the past year because of a couple starts. He might return a couple lottery prospects but it’ll be nowhere near what they gave up

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        • pinstripes7

          7 years ago

          Yeah, against the last place Orioles and the last place Mets…

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      • jdgoat

        7 years ago

        Lmao

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    • Perksy

      7 years ago

      San Fran is in the race, they’re not trading madbum.

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      • PopeMarley

        7 years ago

        Even if they weren’t they’re not trading Bumgarner.

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        • 99Trey

          7 years ago

          Bumgarner is not the same guy from 2 years ago. The Giants would be smart to trade now rather then to watch his value slip over the next year. He’s worth two top 25 type prospects now, next year they’ll be lucky to get a Machado type top 75 prospect + junk deal. Playing .500 ball isn’t exactly “in the race”. There are at least 7 teams in the NL that are markedly better. I don’t understand their reluctance to sell, they still have home grown guys like Posey to placate the fans, and they can always resign him after next year. 2 stud prospects plus a few lottery picks would really help get their barren farm system going again. If they are still bad in two years, which they clearly will be at this point, Bum might not even resign.

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        • arc89

          7 years ago

          Giants will not sell off madbum because the season ticket holders love the old giants. Look how Pence and Sandoval are still playing on the team. Yes the Giants should trade Madbum for a huge package of a top prospect and a few very good ones. probably could net 5 minor league players with a top 20 overall prospect. yanks would need to package Sheffield, Andujar, Frazier, and Estan Florial. They will not do it so no use bringing up his name in trades.

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        • ShieldF123

          7 years ago

          You guys need to get realistic with your proposed trades and expectations. You say 1 top prospect and then some good ones, and then proceed to list the Yanks top 2 prospects who are both top 100 in the MLB and two young controllable starters with upside.

          Get real, there isn’t a player in SF that would be worth that, and there are only a few players in the entire league that would be (Trout).

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  6. Caseys..Partner

    7 years ago

    “Blue Jays ‘hope’ to trade pending free-agent third baseman Josh Donaldson this summer, according to Cafardo.”

    This is like going down to the local 7/11 and getting the name of someone buying a lottery ticket and noting that the buyer “hopes it’s a winner.”

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  7. Connorsoxfan

    7 years ago

    Sonny Gray back to Oakland? That would be awesome. It won’t happen, but it would be fun.

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    • pinstripes7

      7 years ago

      For Trivino, sure.

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  8. jdgoat

    7 years ago

    I wonder why they’re ok with parting with Drury but not Wade. I think a reasonable ceiling for Wade would be a Drury type player, but Brandon has actually had success in the minors.

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    • KnicksFanCavsFan

      7 years ago

      Wade doesn’t profile to have the power you usually expect from a 3b. He’s more contract and speed. Think Gardner when he was younger.

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    • Boogaloo

      7 years ago

      Wade had a .842 OPS in the minors last year with 26 steals and is a well above average defender at 22 years old.

      Think that qualifies as success in the minors.

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      • jdgoat

        7 years ago

        One out of five years and he’s back to being mediocre this year

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  9. E munchy

    7 years ago

    Ok we’ll take Drury. Y’all take Chris Davis and his contract and we’ll call it a deal! Win Win! Haha

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  10. ray_derek

    7 years ago

    Milwaukee should be all over Drury, but they’ll want him without having to give much up.

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    • rocky7

      7 years ago

      Drury is not getting traded for “not much”…..he was a starting 2nd baseman for 2 years in Arizona, and can play all over the diamond. Plus his offense, especially his gap power is awesome.
      He just hasn’t gotten the chance in NY unfortunately, although he should.
      Maybe you should catch another Happy Days rerun!

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      • jdgoat

        7 years ago

        He’d get a couple lotto picks but I doubt he’d get a prospect in a teams top 15

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        • KnicksFanCavsFan

          7 years ago

          That’s insane to say that. Yanks traded a good prospect to get him. What has he done negatively other that suffer thru an injury?

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        • jdgoat

          7 years ago

          He’s been in the minors the whole year pretty much and struggled in the majors. They won’t be getting back a guy as good as Solak. If they really are open to trading Drury, it’ll go down as one of his few recent misses

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      • Houston We Have A Solution

        7 years ago

        While you watch all the rocky movies for the billionth time. Your expectations for drury are as bad as rocky v.

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  11. rbm915

    7 years ago

    The Yankees will likely be interested in a discounted Donaldson considering they were also interested in Machado.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if NYY and TOR discuss a deal built around Happ and Donaldson to NYY and Andujar + going to Tor. It would be like the NYY/CWS deal last summer, but with higher profile assets.

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    • thegreatcerealfamine

      7 years ago

      It will never happen and if it did it would be nothing like the White Sox deal.

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    • Adam6710

      7 years ago

      I’d be very surprised if Cashman parts with Andujar for that kind of return. Straight-up (Andujar for Donaldson & Happ) I wouldn’t even do that deal, not this season the way Boston is playing.

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    • KnicksFanCavsFan

      7 years ago

      Yanks weren’t interested in getting a 3b. They were interested in getting a Manny Machado. Donaldson has no nothing that we don’t have.

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  12. Philliesfan4life

    7 years ago

    The phillies should be looking at Britton, Vazquez from the pirates , and another bat. They are going to win the nl east and prove everyone wrong.

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  13. steelerbravenation

    7 years ago

    If Donaldson shows he is healthy I wouldn’t mind the Braves taking a chance on him for the rest of the season

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  14. elscorchot

    7 years ago

    I wonder what the Marlins would have to give up for Gray. He just seems overwhelmed by the pressure of playing for New York. He did well in Oakland without that stress.

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    • Paul Heyman

      7 years ago

      Probably Dan Straily and one of either Kyle barraclough or brad Ziegler. Also a prospect or 2

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      • ctcramer46

        7 years ago

        That’s a good joke

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  15. mike156

    7 years ago

    Love it when Cafardo tries Jedi mind tricks and stirs the pot with the barely plausible/ possible to get people nuts.

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    • Bocephus

      7 years ago

      It’s not just his cluelessness but the fact he’s a Boston writer trying to predict Yankees moves. Give me Joel Sherman over this guy anytime and I think Sherman is an idiot.

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  16. madmanTX

    7 years ago

    Hamels to your team for all your prospects. Your team takes on his full contract.

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    • TheAdrianBeltre

      7 years ago

      We will also throw in Odor and maybe Choo for all your tradable international money.

      Reply
  17. bobtillman

    7 years ago

    It’s incredible….Dury labored in relative obscurity for years, gets traded to the Spanks, and all of a sudden becomes Mike Schmidt…….only in Yankee-land….
    Dury’s not a bad player….nor is he an especially good one……but as a “centerpiece” of a Machado or MadBum deal??????????
    I see the ghost of Rob Refsnyder walking down the halls of the “House that Horace Clarke built”……

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    • thegreatcerealfamine

      7 years ago

      “Drury labored in relative obscurity for years” Drury only had two full seasons with the Diamondbacks in which he hit quite respectively..you act like the guys is way older then 25 and played for 10 seasons.
      Yankees weren’t the only ones this past winter that showed interest in him. I don’t know who your team is and could give a rats behind, but I’m sure we could have some fun with them like you’re trying to do here with the Yanks. Try checking your facts dude.

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      • arc89

        7 years ago

        Drury is a utility player but his range is not that great. Every team has a Drury like player on their team. That is why the Drury in a package for Machado is strange to mention. He would be a throw in a package nothing you would center any package around.

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        • 99Trey

          7 years ago

          If every team in baseball has a Drury type player why are the Sox still playing Eduardo Nunez? Drury would be an immediate upgrade at second for about 5 major league teams and probably another 2 at 3rd. He was never mentioned as the centerpiece in the Machado proposal so chill out. He’s also much more then a throw in. His value is probably somewhere in the top 150-200 prospect range.

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        • ShieldF123

          7 years ago

          He’s a better player than Devers all around. So all those Sox fans trying to propose trading Devers for a big return should be lauding Drury as the second coming

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      • mehs

        7 years ago

        Drury Career WAR 1.3 over parts of 4 seasons.

        2015 -0.2, 2016 -0.4, 2017 1.9, 2018 -0.4.

        Ryan Flaherty has a career WAR of 2.4 over parts of 7 seasons. He matches up pretty well by the numbers including his first 4 seasons.

        2012 -0.3, 2013 1.3, 2014 1.4, 2015 -0.1.

        Basically the same utility player. Flaherty was a prospect once also as he was drafted in the first round in 2008.

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    • bernbabybern

      7 years ago

      Where does it say “centerpiece”?

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      • PopeMarley

        7 years ago

        It doesn’t he’s obviously another hater.

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      • Houston We Have A Solution

        7 years ago

        Every yankees fans comment thinking drury is worth more than he is.

        Yankee fans think a guy hitting .184/.259/.286 that strikes out nearly 4x as much as he walks should net them syndergaard or degrom while keeping most their prospects.

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    • KnicksFanCavsFan

      7 years ago

      PLEASE read the article and show me where it says he was the highlight of the proposed package. I’ll wait.

      Also, he’s only two years into his career and while he’s no All-Star he has averaged 15 hrs and 34 dbls each season. If he came out of YOUR system I guarantee you your attitude towards him would be “at 25 he’s still maturing but is showing he can be a possible all-star with more experience”.

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      • majorflaw

        7 years ago

        “ . . . while he’s no All-Stat he has averaged 15 HRs . . . each season.”

        Time out. We’re talking about Drury, right? He has hit 32 HRs in 4 years in MLB. By my calculations that’s an average of 8 HRs per year. Which one of us is missing something?

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        • ShieldF123

          7 years ago

          You don’t math very well do you.

          He had less than 60 plates appearances one of those years, and he’s got less than 60 his year as well. So basically two full years in the majors

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        • majorflaw

          7 years ago

          “He had less than 60 plates appearances one of those years, and he’s got less than 60 his year as well.” (sic)

          Um, those years count too. He has <60 PA this year because the Yanks believed they had a better option.

          “So basically two full years in the majors.”

          Yet it’s four years for HoF and bb-ref purposes.

          “You don’t do math very well do you.”

          I did just fine. This isn’t a math problem, it’s a question of whether seasons in which a player played less than you like still count. They do, as the old perfesser used to say, “You can look it up.” You don’t do arguin’, typin’ or English very well. Cheers.

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        • TheTrotsky

          7 years ago

          Baseball Reference puts his 162 game home run average at 17, and they are including all 4 years. So your math is off.

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        • majorflaw

          7 years ago

          “Baseball Reference puts his 162 game home run average at 17, and they are including all 4 years . . . “

          Right but that number represents HRs per 162 games played, not per season. It’s common for players to have a 162 game average which is higher than any single season because most players do not play all 162 games. It’s sort of a player’s theoretical ceiling.

          “So your math is off.”

          Once again, this isn’t a math problem.

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    • Adam6710

      7 years ago

      When did anyone say he’s Mike Schmidt? He’s a good, relatively young player with a lot of upside, and is useful all around the diamond.

      My gut tells me he could evolve into another Didi Gregorious if given everyday playing time. Maybe hit .275 with 25 home runs, with more value because he can do it at multiple positions.

      The problem is, Gleyber Torres and Miguel Andujar give him nowhere to play in the infield, and the Yankees outfield is likewise jammed.

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  18. driftcat28 2

    7 years ago

    Gray will end up the same way Burnett & Nova did, banished to Pittsburgh

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    • jdgoat

      7 years ago

      That’s actually very possible. I could see him in SD too

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      • bleacherbum

        7 years ago

        Agreed. San Diego seems like a pretty logical landing place for Sonny Gray.

        Something like Kirby Yates and Tyson Ross for Sonny Gray and Brandon Drury.

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        • arc89

          7 years ago

          Why would the Padres want old players when they are in a rebuild? Rebuild teams want young controllable players. Gray and Drury do not fit that role.

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        • KnicksFanCavsFan

          7 years ago

          Drury is 25 and has 4 years of control left. AND has already shown what his floor should be. He averaged 15 hrs AND 34 dbls his only 2 seasons in the minors. The only reason he’s not staying is because his migranes allowed Andujar to get playing time and he ran with it this making Drury a luxury to have. He’s too good to be utility guy but with Andujar and Torres both emerging this session, he doesn’t have a starting job anymore.

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    • Houston We Have A Solution

      7 years ago

      Worked out well for them. Burnett enjoyed 3 good years with the bucs and nova got a new deal with decent money.

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  19. Adam6710

    7 years ago

    I’ m confused why fans are incredulous about Cashman including Drury in an offer for Machado. The Orioles didn’t accept that. But that was Cashman making the only offer he was willing to make for a player he didn’t need.

    Fans reactionary idiocy is at an all-time high these days.

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    • slider32

      7 years ago

      It’s all speculation nobody knows what was offered and it doesn’t matter anyway. It’s just all just sports writer fodder!

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  20. norcalblue

    7 years ago

    Thanks for that scoop on Drury. Come on, Drury is in every trade offer NYY make as he is not the player they expected when they acquired him. Drury needs to go to a small market, out-of-contention team, get some PT and re-establish his profile.

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    • KnicksFanCavsFan

      7 years ago

      Seriously… You do know that he suffered migraines which kept him of the field right? It’s not like he failed. He had two very positive years to door what he can do. Yanks just don’t have a place for him since Andujar and Torres were called up. I can’t understand why ppl have such negative attitudes towards Drury and Frazier or why they think Drury was the centerpiece to a Machado offer.

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    • Adam6710

      7 years ago

      He’s not the player they expected? How would you know? The Yankees haven’t given him the opportunity to play more than a handful of games in a row after returning from the DL.

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      • norcalblue

        7 years ago

        They haven’t given Him the opportunity because he hasn’t earned it. Look at his splits in Arizona. He hit much better in that park than in less hitter friendly parks around the league. Why has he been rumored to be in just about every low ball offer the NYY are associated with over since April. Cashman wants to get rid of him.

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  21. TennVol

    7 years ago

    Prediction: Happ and Smoak to the Yankees for Gray and Sheffield. Fans on both teams will say its too much, but, it upgrades the Yankees rotation and 1b and unloads Gray and his poor performance to the Jays, who are winning nothing for the next few years. Sheffield may, or may not, turn into something. Happ and Smoak will help the Yankees win a championship now.

    Donaldson to the Braves for a couple of their low minors but talented prospects somewhere in the Braves 5-20 ranking range. If Donaldson gets healthy, we would be the best hitter on the Braves team. Check out his second half last year once he was healthy.

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    • KnicksFanCavsFan

      7 years ago

      Not a bad offer but I can’t see the Yanks moving Sheffield for rental players.

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    • its_happening

      7 years ago

      If the Jays were to make trade #1 you proposed to New York they might as well hold onto Donaldson, give him a QO and attempt to keep him around with a 2-yr deal after he rejects the QO. He’d be the starting 1B next year without Smoak on the team, be a leader for Vlad Guerrero and have a bounce back year to deal him next year. Due to injury and now a suspect throwing arm, Donaldson’s worth has dropped considerably. Keeping him in Toronto allows the Jays to sell more shirts with his name on it.

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    • jimmertee

      7 years ago

      Frank, I like your thinking, Happ from the Jays for Gray from the Yankees is a good foundation for a trade the teams would have to agree on extra pieces.

      Smoak might be too much value. Morales and a releiver not named Clippard might be a better peices from the Jays. Who knows what the Yankees are willing to let go. Jays need as close to near ready pitching that they can get.

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  22. KnicksFanCavsFan

    7 years ago

    I feel like this needs to be said. Drury and Frazier are ever bit the players they were when they were with their previous teams. They didn’t suddenly become bad because they’re with the Yankees. The ONLY reason why they are made available in trades is because they are both blocked by other guys ( Andujar, Torres, Hicks, Stanton, Gardner).

    I don’t know the others offered by the Yanks but one like Drury, Frazier, Chance Adams and a lower guy like Garrett Whitlock would be amazing.

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    • KnicksFanCavsFan

      7 years ago

      Maybe not amazing but a good haul of players mlb radii ready with 4-6 years of control plus a guy like Whitlock who’s not a top 100 guy now but might be headed towards that.

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    • Adam6710

      7 years ago

      The knock on Drury is that he’s older: he’ll be 26 next month. If it weren’t for Andujar though I’d be very happy to have him play 3B for the Yankees every day. He seems like good line drive hitter who’ll play solid defense.

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    • jdgoat

      7 years ago

      I feel like you’re really overvaluing Drury. You do realize he was a below average hitter last year and only average the year before. There’s nothing wrong with that for a utility player, but he’s not the starting player you’re making him out to be

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  23. doxiedevil

    7 years ago

    The Braves will get a brain freeze now knowing the Blue Jays are shopping Josh Donaldson fairly cheap. Cheap… now that is Liberty Press to a tee.

    The Braves are interested in everyone until they see they are not free. Keep up the dumsper diving AA… your hands are sadly tied.

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    • TennVol

      7 years ago

      You need to read up on your GM. His track record in trades: Donaldson, Price, Tulo, and many others should tell you that he is not conservative. If anything, he is a gambler. You might be surprised over the next few years by the trades he makes. I know Jays fans were!

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  24. jimmertee

    7 years ago

    I would have to disagree with Cafardo. Donaldson is going nowhere at the trade deadline. His current value is a lottery ticket and the Jays would want better value than that. If anything the Jays give him a qualifying offer.

    The real issue with Donaldson is the glaring mistake by Atkins not trading him last year at the deadline or in the winter of 2017 when about a billion intelligent people were [correctly] calling for it.

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  25. cjh815

    7 years ago

    Ok I have interesting block buster I think would make make some since 4 team trade braves , Yankees , blue jays , and reds

    Reds would get
    Lp mike pike
    Rp Wes Parson
    3b rio Ruiz
    Lp Justus Sheffield
    And international money from braves

    Blues would get
    Sp mike Soraka
    Pp Jason Hursh
    Rp Brandon McCarthy
    Ss Derian Cruz
    Lp Ricardo Sanchez

    Yankees get
    Lp Sam freeman
    SP MAtt Harvey
    Rp raisel Iglesias
    Lp AJ Happ

    Braves get
    Lp Amir Garrett
    Sp sonny gray
    Of Clint Frazier
    Rp Tyler Clipper
    3b josh Donaldson

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  26. cjh815

    7 years ago

    And here would be the braves roster

    Sp Fotzy
    Sp Tehran
    Sp Sanchez
    Sp Newcomb
    Sp gray
    Rp Carle
    Rp winkle
    Rp clippard
    LRp Garritt
    lrp biddle
    LRp minter
    Closer vizcano
    Starting line up

    Cf Inciate
    2b Albies
    1b freeman
    3b Donaldson
    Rf Markakis
    Lf acuna
    C flowers
    Ss Swanson
    Bench
    C Suzuki
    If Culbertson
    If Camargo
    If Flahery
    Of Frazier

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    • tonypro7

      7 years ago

      My man, You’ve got too much time on your hands.

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  27. JKB 2

    7 years ago

    Its never going to happen why bother

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