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Dodgers Acquire Manny Machado

By Kyle Downing and Steve Adams | July 18, 2018 at 6:07pm CDT

8:07pm: Both the Dodgers and the Orioles have officially announced the deal. Valera has been optioned to Triple-A Norfolk, while the other four prospects involved will report to Double-A Bowie (h/t Rich Dubroff of BaltimoreBaseball.com).

6:17pm: After a small medical holdup involving one of the prospects coming back, the Dodgers have acquired All-Star shortstop Manny Machado from the Orioles. Outfielder Yusniel Diaz is the key piece headed back to Baltimore in the deal. They’ll also receive minor-league right-handers Dean Kremer and Zach Pop, along with infielders Rylan Bannon and Breyvic Valera. The Dodgers will take on the entirety of Machado’s remaining 2018 salary, which checks in at about $6.3MM.

Since starting out the year with an 8-20 record, it’s been all but certain that the Orioles would deal the impending free agent in exchange for more controllable talent ahead of the July 31st non-waiver trade deadline. But the question of where he would go would prove to be one of baseball’s most intriguing storylines for months. At different points in time, the Yankees, Brewers, Phillies, Diamondbacks, Dodgers and Indians were all strongly connected to the four-time All-Star and two-time Gold Glove Award-winner, with the Braves and Red Sox more loosely associated in trade rumors.

The trade will, of course, close the book on Machado’s tenure with the Orioles organization, who drafted him with the third overall pick back in 2010 and watched him blossom into one of the best players in franchise history. With his new team, Machado will step in as the club’s everyday shortstop — a void that was created earlier this year when Corey Seager incurred a torn ulnar collateral ligament that required Tommy John surgery.

Manny Machado | Ray Carlin-USA TODAY SportsThough Machado, 26, broke into the league as a third baseman, he was drafted and developed as a shortstop and only moved to the hot corner due to the presence of J.J. Hardy at shortstop early in his Baltimore career. Machado voiced a strong preference to move to shortstop this season, and the Orioles accommodated that desire this winter, although defensive metrics have painted him in a dismal light (-19 Defensive Runs Saved, -7.7 Ultimate Zone Rating). It’s also possible, of course, that Machado’s glovework at short will continue to sharpen as he continues to re-acclimate to his natural position after spending years as one of the game’s premier defenders at third base.

Regardless of his defensive skills, there’s little denying the type of offensive upgrade he’ll bring to an already potent Dodgers lineup. Machado posted a .280/.338/.502 slash and 105 homers from 2015-17, and he’s in the midst of his finest offensive campaign yet; through 413 trips to the plate, he’s raked at a .315/.387/.575 clip with 24 homers, putting him well on his way to a new career best.

As was made abundantly clear at the time of this offseason’s Matt Kemp swap with the Braves, the Dodgers have a strong desire to remain south of the $197MM luxury tax threshold this year. Doing so would reset their penalty level from 50 percent to 20 percent the next time they cross that line (not coincidentally in advance of a stacked free-agent class). The Dodgers were roughly $15MM south of that line prior to acquiring Machado and the roughly $6.45MM remaining on this year’s $16MM salary. Earlier on Tuesday there were reports that Los Angeles could attempt to send a veteran player such as Logan Forsythe back to the Orioles as a means of offsetting some of that salary, but Rosenthal since reported that the Dodgers were sending only minor leaguers to Baltimore in the deal.

The 21-year-old Diaz immediately becomes Baltimore’s top prospect. MLB Pipeline’s most recent ranking pegged him as baseball’s #84 overall prospect, praising the potential of all his tools outside of power. In fact, he earns 55 grades across the board with his hitting, speed, arm and defense. Though he’s played center field in the minors, MLB Pipeline suggests he’s more likely to play right field at the MLB level. Thus far in Double-A this season, Diaz has hit at an impressive .314/.428/.477 clip with more walks than strikeouts to go along with six homers and eight steals.

Bannon, 22, is largely regarded as the second-best player headed back to Baltimore in the deal. Checking in as the Dodgers’ 27th-best prospect prior to the trade, Bannon profiles as a third baseman and has earned praise for his great defensive capabilities. That’s not to say that his bat doesn’t hold some potential, however, as he’s managed an impressive .296/.402/.559 so far with the Dodgers’ High-A affiliate. Though he’s compiled a gaudy strikeout total, his 14.6% walk rate is nonetheless impressive. Bannon game to the Dodgers by way of the number 250 overall pick in the 2017 draft.

Kremer checked in right behind Bannon at #28 on MLB Pipeline’s list of Dodgers prospects before being shipped to Baltimore. It’s said that his best pitch is his fastball, which sits around 91-94 MPH with some good horizontal movement. He also features an impressive curveball, and has recently found some success with a slider and changeup. Though he struggled as a swingman at the High-A level last year, the success he’s enjoyed thus far in 2018 (3.30 ERA, 12.99 K/9 at High-A Rancho Cucamonga) has convinced scouts that he has a good chance to stick as a starter.

Pop, however, does indeed profile more as a reliever. Despite a mediocre 7.67 K/9, he’s managed to post a 0.33 ERA through 27 innings in High-A this season. A 95% strand rate suggests he may have been a bit lucky so far, but a dirty 94-97 MPH sinker has impressed scouts and annihilated opposing hitters to such an extent that there’s optimism as to the right-hander’s upside.

Valera is the only player in the deal who’s spent any time in the majors. He spent seven years in the Cardinals’ minor-league system, eventually earning a promotion to St. Louis and making 11 plate appearances before ultimately being traded to the Dodgers in exchange for minor-league outfielder Johan Mieses. Valera’s made 34 plate appearances with the Dodgers this year, amassing just five hits but walking as many times as he struck out (four). That patience is a skill he’s shown in the minors this year, as evidenced by his 9.4% walk rate and 9.0% strikeout rate at Triple-A Oklahoma City. That’s in tandem with a .284/.350/.433 batting line at that level.

Eduardo A. Encina of the Baltimore Sun first reported that the agreement was in place, moments after Roch Kubatko of MASNsports tweeted that it looked like a deal would go through pending some final points to review. Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports was the first to report that the deal was finalized and that players were being notified. J.P. Hoornstra of the Southern California News Group had the first report on the inclusion of Diaz, Kremer, Pop and Bannon in the deal. Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic was the first to report that Valera was headed back to Baltimore, and was also first to mention that the Dodgers were taking on all of Machado’s remaining salary.

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  1. Brixton

    7 years ago

    Well thank god thats over.

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    • Lefty_Orioles_Fan

      7 years ago

      LOL you beat me to it
      Yes, thank God

      Also I wonder why the O’s got an OF’er for the main course, their minor league system is crawling with outfielders including Austin Hays

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      • Brixton

        7 years ago

        They should take the best player available (which it seems they did)

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      • Tomahawktake

        7 years ago

        5 prospects for a 2 month rental is pretty good. Nice job Orioles

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        • jdgoat

          7 years ago

          They probably took the quantity over quality approach would fit right in with this front office

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        • dimitrios in la

          7 years ago

          Last time the O’s got five players back in a deal it worked out pretty well (one of the better trades in a while).

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        • outinleftfield

          7 years ago

          Did you see Diaz in the Futures Game on Sunday? That is a quality player.

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        • jdgoat

          7 years ago

          Diaz is. I think I’d rather have one of May, Lux, Alvarez, White, Ruiz, etc. Instead of the other four

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        • bigkempin

          7 years ago

          It’s 1 top 100 prospect with 4 low end prospects. Quantity doesn’t best quality.

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        • bigkempin

          7 years ago

          That trade was also 9 years ago. There’s a problem when you have to go back 9 years to find a good trade for a team.

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        • hiflew

          7 years ago

          It could. There is the famous saying about putting one’s eggs in one basket. You never know.

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        • dimitrios in la

          7 years ago

          Well yes I would’ve wanted May, for sure. But it’s a good looking, if young, package.

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        • dimitrios in la

          7 years ago

          Not really. O’s have made some very good trades since then, some not so good.

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        • dimitrios in la

          7 years ago

          More baskets coming: Britton is a great piece who should reap a nice return.

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        • Jbigz12

          7 years ago

          Kreamer has better minor league numbers than Dustin may this year. He could wind up being the diamond in the rough. Diaz obviously has a ton of potential and could shoot up those prospects lists in short order. It’s certainly not a bad return.

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        • KnicksFanCavsFan

          7 years ago

          You have to get past prospect ranking and look at the player. It seems that the “experts” seem to favor “potential” over performance at AA/AAA level. I think they are often bullish on players drafted late in draft.

          Dodgers have done a great job at drafting in the later rounds. Joc Pederson and Max Muncy, are examples of guys that were drafted outside the top 3 rounds and went largely ignored in the prospect rankings for the most part.

          Today’s unranked prospect could be tomorrows top 100.

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        • Jbigz12

          7 years ago

          Muncy was an A’s farmhand but I agree with your point. It doesn’t matter where a guy was drafted. Some guys slip through the cracks. Kremers certainly impressed.

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        • FromTheCheapSeats

          7 years ago

          Agreed

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        • douglasb

          7 years ago

          Not sure why nobody likes Bannon. A 22-year old with a career .978 OPS in the minors? Not bad. Sure, he only at high A, but it seems he could handle the jump to AA this year.

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      • RedRooster

        7 years ago

        O’s are in the early stages of a rebuild. They need to take the best players available, regardless of position. Besides, there are 3 outfield spots and the O’s don’t have 3 outfield prospects who are better than Diaz.

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        • outinleftfield

          7 years ago

          We don’t have one that is better. Hays is rated a 50 FV on MLB.com, Diaz a 55 FV.

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        • BlueSkyLA

          7 years ago

          Your big helping of crow is coming FedEx. Do you need a tracking number?

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        • RedRooster

          7 years ago

          Can’t wait! Make sure to deliver some to the people who said Machado would agree to an extension as well.

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        • BlueSkyLA

          7 years ago

          Sorry, that wasn’t the deal.

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      • outinleftfield

        7 years ago

        Hays, Mullins, Stewart. None are as good of a player as Diaz.

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        • dimitrios in la

          7 years ago

          Great looking depth now.

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        • Jbigz12

          7 years ago

          Doesn’t matter if 2 of them are. We have zero long term outfielders on our ML roster. Mancini needs to transition back to 1B or DH as I believe he will. He’s not a guy a decent ball club is putting out in left. Stewart, Hays and Mullins all have potential but are big question marks. Stewart has the lowest ceiling of the three for sure. I’d be surprised if he was an above average regular. Mullins looks like he’ll At least be a quality fourth outfielder hopefully more. Hays is the wildcard. Has all the tools just needs to get on track and work out some plate discipline. Easier said than done.

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  2. Houston We Have A Solution

    7 years ago

    For the love of god what did they get lol.

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    • dorfmac

      7 years ago

      For real. I’m absolutely stunned at how tight-lipped this has been.

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    • kenly0

      7 years ago

      Diaz and May

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      • Houston We Have A Solution

        7 years ago

        Report says 5 prospects. 3 have been named.

        Math is off. And current version of this article says lux and may are scheduled to play.

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  3. wattyman69

    7 years ago

    Finally

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  4. beardedface_killah

    7 years ago

    He’s overrated.

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    • Kslaw

      7 years ago

      Yeah so is Mike trout….

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    • Dawgsfan2

      7 years ago

      Manny is not overrated

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      • c1234

        7 years ago

        Mike trout is not overrated he’s the best player in the game and once his career is over he could have the highest was in MLB history. Bryce Harper on the other hand is overrated

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        • c1234

          7 years ago

          WAR*

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        • tommyl

          7 years ago

          What is it good for.

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        • Thomas Walker

          7 years ago

          Sarcasm is a real thing.

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        • IACub

          7 years ago

          to help estimate the value of a player based on the number of wins they provide to a team above the typical replacement level or “AAAA” player. (say it again!)

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        • Lance

          7 years ago

          if you had a draft of MLB players and DIDN’T choose Trout#1….you’re nuts. This is a guy putting up Mantle & Mays type numbers.

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        • scottaz

          7 years ago

          @Rickey O Absolutely nothing!

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        • Djones246890

          7 years ago

          SAY IT AGAIN!!

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        • hiflew

          7 years ago

          I think Ernie Banks is a more apt comparison. He never won a playoff game either.

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        • 24TheKid

          7 years ago

          Lance I would probably take Judge first overall if there was a draft of all players. Trout just doesn’t hustle enough on the bases, his first season he stole like 40 bases, now he gets around 10.

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        • norcalblue

          7 years ago

          Mickey Mantle was loooooong ago passed by Trout. Mays is an absolute fair comparison.

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        • davidcoonce74

          7 years ago

          I assume you’re joking about Trout stealing bases but yeah, he doesn’t steal as much anymore. Instead he walks, homers, gets on base more drives the ball harder and farther. He also hits lower in the lineup, and I’m sure the Angels remember the 40+ games he missed a couple years ago when he tore thumb ligaments trying to steal second base.

          Willie Mays, who is the player Trout is most comparable to, stopped stealing bases around the same age (although the league as a whole stopped stealing bases then, just like now). Mantle had blinding speed when he came up but tore his knee up when his cleats got caught in a sprinkler head in the Yankee Stadium outfield. He had a few seasons where he stole a few bases, but his alcoholism became so bad later in his career that it sapped all his athleticism.

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        • norcalblue

          7 years ago

          Mickey Mantle was passed by Trout long ago. Mays is an absolute fair comparison. Placing Mantle with Mays and Trout is just not warranted.

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        • hiflew

          7 years ago

          Trout is not even halfway to Mantle’s career WAR yet. I think you need to pull back on the reins just a bit.

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        • davidcoonce74

          7 years ago

          Trout is in his seventh season. Mantle played 18 seasons.

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        • daved

          7 years ago

          Trout “hits lower in the lineup?” 356 of his 428 PA are from the 2 hole.

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        • norcalblue

          7 years ago

          That’s fair and I stand corrected. My great respect for Mays and enthusiasm for Trout got the best of me. I certainly acknowledge that Mantle was a great player. My response was really an objection to comparing Mantle to Mays and I should have made that point–not the one I made.

          Again, stand corrected.

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        • Speak da Truth

          7 years ago

          Wow I knew there was dumb people out here but Jesus this guy is off his rocker. He said Judge over Trout? Wow..
          Trout is a 5 tool player you can’t compare Trout to Judge unless you’re a Yankee fan and bias.

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        • KnicksFanCavsFan

          7 years ago

          I’m bored, but what makes you say he passed Mantle a “lonnnnnng time ago”?

          First 6 years: Mantle/Trout

          HRS- 194 vs 196
          BB- 627 vs 562
          WAR- 51 vs 54
          BAT/OBP/SLUG – ..321/435/589 vs 309/414/572
          SB- 51 vs 161
          BB/KO%- 17%/16% vs 14% vs 22%
          w/OBA- .450 vs .416
          wRC- 178 vs 172

          Except for an obvious advantage in SB where has Trout “blown by” Mantle? How about we wait and see how history looks at them all? I know time periods are tough to compare but they both debuted at 19 and by his 26th bday, Mantle had 3 hr titles, 1 bat title and a triple crown. Trout hasn’t done any of that. He’s todays version of Mickey Mantle but to say that he’s already a greater player is disrespectful to the history of the sport.

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        • KnicksFanCavsFan

          7 years ago

          I agree that Trout is a more all around player but when it comes to the numbers, stolen bases and lower K% are really the only things that he has over Judge and it really isn’t significant.

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        • davidcoonce74

          7 years ago

          The year he stole 49 bases he batted exclusively leadoff

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        • davidcoonce74

          7 years ago

          We have to look at the elephant in the room here, and acknowledge that Trout is far likelier to age better than Mantle did, because Trout is a workout fiend and obviously, if you know anything about Mantle, he really started breaking down around 30 because of his extreme alcoholism. (Trout doesn’t drink). After about age 30 Mantle couldn’t really stay on the field as much, although he often played well when he could. His last 4 seasons he was an average-or-worse player. Trout would seem to be set up to have a much better aging curve.

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        • davidcoonce74

          7 years ago

          Also, baseball is far better today than when Mantle played. The Yankees won every year in large part because literally half the teams in baseball weren’t even trying at all. The players are far better today (every generation of baseball players is better than the last – that’s true of any sport) and an elite player like Mantle is of course going to dominate much weaker competition. It’s harder to dominate in 2018, and comparing raw numbers from the 50s and today is pretty absurd.

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        • ggodfrey

          7 years ago

          Mantle had a higher OPS+ through the same age as Trout, as of now since Trout has another few months to possibly up his. Also Mantle had a career wRC+ of 170, Trout is at 171 without some prime years and the backside of his career. Mantle had 5 full seasons with an equal/better wRC+ than Trout. So it isn’t just raw numbers

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        • GarryHarris

          7 years ago

          Never played in one.

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        • davidcoonce74

          7 years ago

          And again, mantle put up his numbers against much weaker competition. I think Mantle is one of the best players in baseball history. But I highly doubt, with his extreme alcohol problems, he would have lasted long in today’s game. That he could play as well as he could while often drunk is a testament to his talent, yes, but also the level of his competition.

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      • Doc44

        7 years ago

        Yes he is

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  5. Gwynning's Anal Lover

    7 years ago

    Oh good. I’m so happy.

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  6. xabial

    7 years ago

    Baltimore’s tweet to Manny:

    “You’ve done us proud, Manny.”

    Wish Manny could say the same thing.

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    • aceofrainbows

      7 years ago

      Why, are you trying to get rid of any? I’m a fan of Oobleck.

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      • xabial

        7 years ago

        Sorry about that. I understood this comment.

        No doubt you wrote this before I edited my comment. 🙂 You still the man, wiggysf. ^^

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        • aceofrainbows

          7 years ago

          Ha thanks. Still a good comment

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        • xabial

          7 years ago

          Thanks!

          They are currently 28-69, on pace for 46 wins.

          Take away Machado and their position players have combined to hit .217, with a .278 OBP.

          The Orioles (Peter Angelos) failed Machado

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        • Jbigz12

          7 years ago

          Won plenty of games from 12-16. It’s over. Don’t make it something it isn’t. The teams gone it’s time to start over. First step is today and it looks like a good Step.

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        • aceofrainbows

          7 years ago

          Yeah, but it’s also about how Britton is handled. And they don’t have much else to trade either… Adam Jones I guess but that won’t bring back top prospects.

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        • Jbigz12

          7 years ago

          Doesn’t matter. We gave it a go until the end. About half a season too late on making moves but the return for Machado looks good now. Could potentially be another Tillman/Jones scenario if things go very well. #1 or #2 pick is all but locked up at this point. The #1 pick is probably ours next season as well. Losing Manny probably cost us let’s say 3-4 wins off an already bad team. Add whatever talent we can get and start over. It only takes a couple draft picks to turn a franchise around.

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  7. leolujan77

    7 years ago

    Still not going to win World Series need more pieces

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    • bradthebluefish

      7 years ago

      Agreed

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  8. marijuasher

    7 years ago

    Mannywood II: Electric Boogaloo

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    • IACub

      7 years ago

      infinite likes

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    • walls17

      7 years ago

      winner

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  9. MB923

    7 years ago

    About time. Congrats Dodgers.

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  10. sameichel

    7 years ago

    It is time for this New York, and LA getting everyone trend to end

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    • murphy

      7 years ago

      Even now dodgers wont win it.

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  11. denistaylor

    7 years ago

    Next stop Yankees though…

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    • sameichel

      7 years ago

      Haha there is now way he is going there they got several other stars to pay (Torres, severino) and they already have a third baseman and shortstop

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      • sameichel

        7 years ago

        No

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      • sameichel

        7 years ago

        Not to mention judge at some point

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      • grecoisu

        7 years ago

        Torres isn’t close to a contract yet.

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  12. yanks02026

    7 years ago

    Hope he comes to the Yankees next year. But wish him luck for the rest of this year

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    • Philliesfan4life

      7 years ago

      why? the yankees don’t need him at all. They have andujar , Didi and Torres plus drury.

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      • Andyk

        7 years ago

        Not quite the same numbers as Manny though.

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      • Djones246890

        7 years ago

        Knowing the MLB and Yankees, they’ll probably allow them to create a “ShortCenter” position, just so that every superstar in the league can be on their team.

        I swear, this league had better instill a little better “cap” than what they have, because I have to agree with a lot of people…this Yankee, Dodger, Red Sox thing is ridiculous.

        But, of course the league loves it, because they love having superstars in the big TV markets. All about the Benjamin’s.

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        • Cam

          7 years ago

          Let’s just ignore the fact that the Giants, Cubs, Nationals and Angels (plus Boston and Dodgers) have a higher payroll than the Yankees.

          In fact, the league average payroll is $150mil this year.

          But by all means, continue, fascinate us with your insight.

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        • davidcoonce74

          7 years ago

          Yeah, because salary caps have worked so well to ensure competitive balance in the NBA and NFL. Give me a break. Cleveland and Golden state just played in the finals for, what, the Third straight season? And the Pats have been in the super bowl like six times in ten seasons, right? While an NFL team went 0-16 last season, right? Salary caps put more money in owners’ pockets but they sure do nothing for competitive balance.

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        • chesteraarthur

          7 years ago

          I believe this was actually the fourth straight year, no?

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        • KnicksFanCavsFan

          7 years ago

          Would it blow your mind if I told you that the Yankees 1b, 2b, SS, 3b, C, LF, CF, RF and DH, 6 of 8 SP they’ve used this year and all of their bullpen arms, with the exception of Chapman, were all acquired thru our minor league system or via trade using prospects?

          None of our starting 9 earn more than $10 mil with the exception of Gardner ($11.5 mil) and Stanton ($25 mil) .

          None of our starters earn more than $10 mil w/ the exception of Tanaka.

          None of our relievers earn more than $10 mil w/ the exception of Chapman and Robertson and Robertson was acquired in a trade.

          In fact, Tanaka, Ellsbury, Chapman, Sabathia and Walker are the only FA on our roster.

          Wow….consider your mind blown.

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        • iverbure

          7 years ago

          The “MLB needs a cap to ensure competitive balance” people are the DUMBEST people on the Internet. Probably the same people who yelled collusion during the offseason. Calling all the owners cheap but you want a salary cap? The luxury tax the way it operates now is effectively a salary cap. Nobody wants to go over 3 years in a row, that’s why the dodgers and yanks will stay below 197 mil.

          Outside of the Mariners who are currently in a playoff spot hasn’t every team made the playoffs once in the last 5 years?

          These people just want their favourite player to be forced into a long term contract to make them a Pirate or Athletic for life. The game is trending young and younger, you don’t want your favourite player lock up until his late 30s on a small market team. You aren’t even smart enough to know that.

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      • jekporkins

        7 years ago

        No kidding – This current attitude reminds me of the Yanks back in the 80s and early 2000s when they thought every big free agent would come to them. Remember how that turned out those times!

        First :The Yankees don’t need him. They need starting pitching.

        Second: They already have a huge contract in Stanton, and they will have to pony up soon for their younger players.

        Third :I doubt they will just toss $300 million at Manny because he has slightly better numbers than their current SS, who is a #@#$ing premier player just now hitting his prime.

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  13. youngonti

    7 years ago

    Nice

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  14. slowcurve

    7 years ago

    As a Braves fan I’m glad Philly didn’t get him! Also glad the Braves didn’t give away the farm.

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    • Dawgsfan2

      7 years ago

      I agree we don’t need him in Atlanta

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      • Stevesabers

        7 years ago

        No and now the Dodgers are way better then the Braves and Phillies. Good luck in 2019!

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    • SportsBum

      7 years ago

      As a Phillies fan, I’m glad the Phillies didn’t give up a lot to get him either. I rather them take a chance on him and Harper in free agency. Phillies have money, but we need to keep building up our prospects like we have been while making some big splashes in free agency, not trade away the work that has been done for this rebuild for a rental that isn’t guaranteed to re-sign. Our prospects is why we’re at where we are right now.

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    • realgone2

      7 years ago

      I want the phillies to over pay for him, but yes I’m glad the Braves didn’t get him. The team has more pressing issues. Like another starter and pen help

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  15. Lefty_Orioles_Fan

    7 years ago

    What about Austin ‘Mays’ Hays Duquette what is his future?

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    • nymetsking

      7 years ago

      FYI- there are 3 starting OFs on a baseball team.

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    • outinleftfield

      7 years ago

      Jones, Mancini, Santander are in the OF now. Are any going to block Hays from playing? Jones is gone after the season at the latest and possibly by July 31. Hays, Diaz, Mancini, and Hays are the ones that are fighting for starting time next season.

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      • Jbigz12

        7 years ago

        Santander isn’t major league ready. He’s putting up OK numbers in AA. Diaz needs probably a good half season in the minors as well. Mancini will eventually be a 1B or a DH if he can continue hitting again. Hays needs to show something in the minors before you even think about him being an option. There are plenty of spots available in our outfield. More likely than not you see Jones or another veteran brought in to play next season. No reason to burn up service time on any of those guys until they’re beating the door down. It’s a long process to success.

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  16. eduardoaraisa98

    7 years ago

    Dodger fans before they traded for Machado: Whoever gives up their prospects for two months of Machado should be fired
    Dodger fans now: Such a great trade, totally worth giving up prospects for two month of Machado

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    • norcalblue

      7 years ago

      Other than Diaz, Dodgers gave up next to nothing.

      Dodgers fans were worried about losing Ruiz, Verdugo, May, Lux, Alvarez, Jason Kendall, Smith, White, D. Santana, C. Santana, DJ Peters, Ferguson, Jordan Sheffield and Gonsolin. For crying out loud they even kept Errol Robinson and Morgan Cooper.

      We will miss Diaz I am sure; but the upside on Manny was worth the risk to Friedman.

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      • Eric Ferrari

        7 years ago

        Norcalblue is on the money. The deal is Diaz for Manny. Thank goodness Diaz hit 2 bombs in the futures game because he’s shown very little pop in the minors.

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      • sully51

        7 years ago

        Honestly more sad about losing Bannon than anyone else on the list. Dude is legit.

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      • SFGiants4ever

        7 years ago

        Figured the dodgers would some how get away with not trading their top guys again just like they seem to.
        As much as I can’t stand them or the yankees I’ll give both teams credit for the last few years neither team will trade their top guys, and have brought in more talent with the Chapman trade and Miller trade etc.

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        • RedRooster

          7 years ago

          They were never going to have to trade their top guys for a rental.

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        • SFGiants4ever

          7 years ago

          Red, many teams over the have given up their top guys, unfortunately as Giants fan I have seen it multiple times.
          But the yankees and dodgers have made multiple trades the last few years that they are getting the other teams top guys (Torres, Frazier, Shefield) (still can’t believe the Indians) and not trading their own top guys.

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      • KnicksFanCavsFan

        7 years ago

        I’m not sure I would agree they gave up “nothing” other than Diaz. Kremer and Bannon look like pretty good prospects. I think we have a tendency to focus on top 100 prospect status. The all-star game is littered with guys that never appeared on a top 100 list.

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      • Stevesabers

        7 years ago

        Yes but everyone on this site for months said the Orioles would get nothing for a rental. Now Dodgers made a great trade?

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        • BlueSkyLA

          7 years ago

          Exaggerate much?

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    • BlueSkyLA

      7 years ago

      You write such great fiction. When is your next novel coming out?

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    • Kenleyfornia74

      7 years ago

      Not 1 person said either of those

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  17. Thronson5

    7 years ago

    Smart pick up by the Dodgers. Put him at SS and put Taylor back in CF splitting time with Joc. Kike can man 2nd and also play in the outfield. If the Dodgers aren’t going after Harper this off season like I’ve heard than they should try to bring this guy back and put him at 3rd and put Turner at 2nd.

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    • jakec77

      7 years ago

      For Machado, you leave him at SS for the next couple of years and move Seager (either to 2b or SS, whatever works better, I’m guessing 2b)

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      • Thronson5

        7 years ago

        I can’t see Seager playing 2nd but maybe 3rd and move Turner to 2nd. Either way I’d try to keep him and I hope they do.

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        • restingmitchface

          7 years ago

          Turner isn’t playable at 2B.

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        • Thronson5

          7 years ago

          Turner isn’t playable at 2nd? He can play 2nd. When the Dodgers got Turner he was a utility INF and played 2nd a decent amount of time. When the Dodgers first actually got Turner he played some 2nd for them as well. He would be fine going to 2nd. I personally think he’s a pretty good 3rd baseman and would love to see him stay there but if the Dodgers bring Machado back I don’t see that happening.

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        • its_happening

          7 years ago

          It will depend on how Seager’s arm is next year. Turner’s range may be an issue at 2B. Then again, Turner’s a gamer.

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      • imindless

        7 years ago

        Finally people with real sense. Seager just had tj you think he really gonna play ss next season? Being around the club house ive seen first hand that seager is selfless player. If its about winning so is he. Dodgers will throw the bag at machado if he fits in well, yankees and phillies fans can keep dreaming lol

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        • brian214

          7 years ago

          Around the clubhouse? LOL. Keep holding on to 1988.

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      • TJECK109

        7 years ago

        You are already assuming he will resign in LA. There is no such guarantee at this point.

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      • RedRooster

        7 years ago

        How can they leave him at SS the next couple of years when they only have him for 2018?

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  18. tomselleck

    7 years ago

    Now let’s get to the real trades

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    • ElysianPark

      7 years ago

      Lol….”real trades?” Like for Dozier and Gennett?

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  19. sameichel

    7 years ago

    As a reds and braves fan I am happy that the brewers didn’t get him either

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    • kcbbfan

      7 years ago

      The Brewers are going to get Merrifield from the Royals…and he will do for the Brewers what Machado does for the Dodgers…or close to it.

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      • nymetsking

        7 years ago

        umm, no he won’t. Good player, but not even close.

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      • twentyforty

        7 years ago

        Why? Does Merrifield pitch?

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      • ElysianPark

        7 years ago

        Sure…maybe Frank White or Freddie Patek would, too.

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    • Ry.the.Stunner

      7 years ago

      As a Cubs fan, I second this sentiment.

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      • ABCD

        7 years ago

        Well, unless there’s round 3 with LA in the postseason. If it’s the LCS, I can live with that.

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    • grecoisu

      7 years ago

      You should want the Brewers to get Machado… that means they lose the farm and you can contend in the future (Reds).

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      • ElysianPark

        7 years ago

        The Dodgers didn’t have to lose their farm. Why would the Brewers have had to?

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  20. anoff

    7 years ago

    Kubatko only said 5 ‘players’, not 5 ‘prospects’, the earlier reports said there was MLB pieces coming back to keep the Dodgers under the luxury cap. Smart on the O’s to take a negative asset/contract as to get better prospects in the deal. I’m guessing Logan Forsythe, and possibly Daniel Hudson, go to the O’s, along with some quality prospects; those are the only two making money and would ostensibly be expendable with the current Dodger’s roster.

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  21. Grade_1_teacher

    7 years ago

    It’s about time. It was actually very low-class of the Orioles front office to upstage the All-Star Game with this trade that easily could’ve waited until after the game.

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    • TJECK109

      7 years ago

      They did wait until after the game. I didn’t see the Orioles or Dodgers holding press conferences. When you have a player like Machado being shopped it’s going to be reported on regardless of when

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    • Stevesabers

      7 years ago

      Low class? Have fun getting a haul for Happ.

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  22. stymeedone

    7 years ago

    Watch, Baltimore gets one top prospect, and 4 utility pitcher/infielders just so they can tell the fans they got back a haul (in quantity only).

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  23. #L1C4Life

    7 years ago

    So, reportedly, 5 prospects for a 2 month rental? And he is a 2.9 WAR for the year, I’m sure it’s worse at SS. Dodgers got fleeced, dont even need to see who’s going back

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    • gleybertorres25

      7 years ago

      Quantity over quality. Dodgers did not get fleeced

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    • davidcoonce74

      7 years ago

      “I’m sure it’s worse at SS.” ummm…you understand that WAR measures a player’s entire abilities, including defense and base running, right? Machado’s WAR is actually hurt by his poor defensive metrics, it would be up around 4 right now if not for those metrics, which might have some small-sample bias.

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    • ElysianPark

      7 years ago

      Valera is hardly a prospect. Besides Diaz, the other three are still very young, and anything could happen.

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  24. Rich Hill’s Elbow

    7 years ago

    I think putting Manny At SS, Turner at 3rd, and Seager At 2nd is much more realistic

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    • Michael Chaney

      7 years ago

      …Seager’s been injured since like April

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  25. justin-turner overdrive

    7 years ago

    lmao its probably diaz and nobodies for machado, dodgers do it again

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  26. imindless

    7 years ago

    If lux and may arent included dodgers fleeced them. Those were the 2 i was most concerned with lol

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  27. norcalblue

    7 years ago

    Connor Wong is in the RC lineup tonight too and I thought he might be one of the lottery picks.

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  28. Syndergaarden Cop

    7 years ago

    This will make it even funnier when the dudgers fail again in the postseason

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    • MrStealYoBase

      7 years ago

      They lost the WS in 7?
      So you mean fail like the Mets in ‘15 then, right?

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  29. MetsYankeesRedSox

    7 years ago

    So that’s it??
    Now what will I do?

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  30. norcalblue

    7 years ago

    Don’t celebrate yet Dodger fans. There are a lot of really good, young guys on the LAD single A teams that may well be included. Still wouldn’t surprise me to see Dustin May pulled from his start and included in the deal.

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  31. Syndergaarden Cop

    7 years ago

    Return is: Diaz, Kramer, Bannon, Pop, Valera

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  32. sluman46953

    7 years ago

    to think what the mets could get for degrom and syndergaard ??? . could be amazing…

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  33. sovtechno

    7 years ago

    Nobody cares who you cheer for and qualifying a statement by pointing out that you like a team does not lend any credibility to your words.

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    • KnicksFanCavsFan

      7 years ago

      What climbed up your rear? Dude wasn’t qualifying anything. He just wondered what the Mets could get for two bonafide top of rotation guys with a couple of years of control considering what the O’s got for a 3 month rental. You skipped your meds?

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  34. HalosHeavenJJ

    7 years ago

    Good time to make a trade like this for the Dodgers. Windows close quickly. Kershaw, Jansen, Turner aren’t getting any younger and there’s no guarantee the youngsters can produce to their levels.

    This is the type of trade that likely wins them the division. If they add a bullpen piece or two, they could make another run.

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    • Cam

      7 years ago

      Their window isn’t closing. 7 of the top 8 WAR producers from their position players this year are under 30 years old.

      Their farm is consistently rated in the top third of the league.

      They can sustain a high payroll.

      If the Dodgers window is closing – everyone’s window must be closing.

      Wishful thinking on your part.

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      • HalosHeavenJJ

        7 years ago

        Hence the “no guarantee” clause.

        Perhaps “the chance to win with this group” would have been a better way for me to phrase my position, though.

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        • BlueSkyLA

          7 years ago

          If you want a guarantee, buy a toaster.

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        • Dodgethis

          7 years ago

          Clearly you’ve never bought a toaster.

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  35. jdgoat

    7 years ago

    Wow only one top prospect going to Baltimore

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    • Knowthemarket

      7 years ago

      JD Martinez didn’t get a top 100 prospect at all, so it seems consistent. This is the new normal. Teams are smart enough not to make stupid choices for rentals. He brought back only 1 top 100 guy and that’s even with a bidding war going on.

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    • sufferforsnakes

      7 years ago

      I’ve watched Rancho Cucamonga several times this season. Bannon is a good player.

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  36. deweybelongsinthehall

    7 years ago

    Glad that’s over. Now for the next deal…

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  37. MetsYankeesRedSox

    7 years ago

    Thumbs up to Rosenthal

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  38. Philliesfan4life

    7 years ago

    The phillies are gonna sign him, they will outbid the all mighty evil empire and the dodgers.

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    • Jimcarlo Slaton

      7 years ago

      Glad the Phillies didn’t trade for him since they are still a few players away, in my opinion. Not sure outbidding other teams in free agency will get it done. He’ll prefer Yankees, Dodgers, Cubs, etc.. Teams that want him badly enough and are willing to spend money will go after him hard even if he’s not an obvious fit immediately.
      Will be interesting to see how quickly he adjusts to pitchers he’s seen little of.

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  39. itslonelyatthetrop

    7 years ago

    Moving on to Moustakas Watch 2018

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    • asuchrisc

      7 years ago

      Nice! When does #BrittonWatch start?

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  40. justin-turner overdrive

    7 years ago

    Diaz, Kremer, Pop, Bannon and Valera.

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  41. Cam

    7 years ago

    Happy the Dodgers didn’t have to part with Lux or May in the package – nice work.

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    • twentyforty

      7 years ago

      Hope you realize Lux isn’t a difference maker by any stretch of the imagination.

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      • Cam

        7 years ago

        Can you give me tomorrow’s lottery numbers as well?

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  42. outinleftfield

    7 years ago

    Outstanding job Duke. 5 players including a Top 100 prospect for a 2 month rental Now get Britton, Brach and Jones traded and refill the farm system. Those prospects can be moved to get MLB pieces when the O’s are ready to contend again in a few years.

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  43. R.D.

    7 years ago

    Seems the o’s got 3 pretty nice pieces to add to the farm here. Valera and Pop seem more like toss ins.

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  44. bobbleheadguru

    7 years ago

    Orioles settle for quantity of quality
    Dodgers did well.

    Basically a 55 (ranked in the 80s) and a couple of 45s and some filler.
    Nothing that spectacular at all.

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  45. norcalblue

    7 years ago

    Wow…Kremer (instead of May or Ferguson) surprises me. I’m guessing that the O’s really wanted Diaz and that allowed Dodgers to keep Lux and May. Bannon is a solid hitter and may well end up being the second best player sent to the O’s.

    Dodgers are not through trading. We need another arm in the pen and I am expecting one of the young catchers (Smith, Ruiz or Wong) to be dealt.

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  46. sportsjunkie24

    7 years ago

    Orioles took quantity over quality big deal getting 5 prospects with multiple year of control for 2 months of manny pretty good deal for the Os

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    • bobbleheadguru

      7 years ago

      How many even make the majors? Controlling a “dime a dozen” minor leaguers is no big deal.

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      • Jbigz12

        7 years ago

        what’s to suggest one other top100 prospect like Dennis Santana is any more likely to be a quality ML’er over Bannon and Kremer? Both of those guys don’t have the flashy pedigree but have been tearing up the minors this season. There’s a lot to like about either one of those guys. Orioles don’t need a guy beating on the major league door right now anyway. It’s a slow process and MM was gone in 3 months anyway. Didn’t ship him out to our division rivals and got at least 3 interesting prospects.

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  47. Michael Chaney

    7 years ago

    I know that Machado is one of the better players in the game, but I’m still impressed by the Orioles’ return for him since he’s a rental

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    • bobbleheadguru

      7 years ago

      Machado is one of the best players in the game.
      They got slightly more (maybe not even that) than the Tigers got for JD Martinez last year, a much lesser player.

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      • jdgoat

        7 years ago

        Are you kidding? Diaz is far and away better than any player the Tigers received. The packages aren’t even close to being even

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        • bobbleheadguru

          7 years ago

          We shall see… wont we.

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        • Michael Chaney

          7 years ago

          Diaz is much better than anyone in either trade and he’s a legitimate prospect, and Dawel Lugo (the best played in the Martinez trade) might not even be as good as the second or third best players the Dodgers gave up.

          I don’t even remember the other two guys Detroit got for JDM; I’m pretty sure they were just throw-ins anyway.

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    • Datashark

      7 years ago

      Rental? I seriously doubt he will be “rented” in LA
      I just wonder if he plays SS or Seager (future)
      Machado skill lateral movement – I dont think is as skilled as seager
      3B is turner homecountry…so does turner accept 2B?

      This year I know its Taylor=>2B

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      • RedRooster

        7 years ago

        Why wouldn’t he be a rental in LA? He wants to play SS, they aren’t moving Seager off SS and other teams will be interested in signing him come the offseason.
        Anyway, if they were interested in him as more than just a rental, this trade wouldn’t have been made.

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      • Michael Chaney

        7 years ago

        Yes, a rental…whether he re-signs in LA or not, the market treated him as a rental because he isn’t under control after this year

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  48. HubcapDiamondStarHalo

    7 years ago

    So much for the Orioles reported demand of “two MLB ready pitchers.”

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    • RedRooster

      7 years ago

      He’s a rental. They didn’t have the right to demand anything.
      Besides, the O’s don’t need Major League ready prospects. They should be targeting lower guys with upside.

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  49. bravesfan

    7 years ago

    All the hype u expected to get more in the deal. If I was the O’s I would have asked for more mlb readiness than this. Not bad at all, I just think the media hype really had us expected something unreasonable

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    • RedRooster

      7 years ago

      MLB readiness is the exact opposite of what the O’s should be going for here.

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  50. Eric Ferrari

    7 years ago

    I closely follow the Dodger farm. This is a weak return for the O’s.

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    • outinleftfield

      7 years ago

      Apparently, you don’t follow it very well. Diaz is a stud. Everyone that watched the Futures Game can tell you that. He is hitting .314/.428/.477/.905 in AA this season and the Dodgers paid $15.5 million for him. 2 of the others are top 30 prospects, one has already played at the MLB level, and the last one is a reliever with a 1.04 ERA.

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      • ElysianPark

        7 years ago

        Don’t get excited about Valera. Yes, he has played in the majors, but he is nothing more than a utility guy. This is his third organization, and he had been around nine years in the minors.

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    • Stevesabers

      7 years ago

      Weak return for a rental? Ok

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  51. seanwh01

    7 years ago

    Orioles did very well. Bannon is an under the radar coop.

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  52. Datashark

    7 years ago

    outside of Diaz.
    they did not get much of anything…laughter is that last one Breyvic Valera dumped by STL, and has not put up much numbers in minors with LA either.
    He was a throw in it seems. The only ones that may have upside are: Kremer and Pop. Dodgers seem to know recently when to trade away prospect pitchers: example: Cotton, DeLeon, Holmes,etc…all of them have not done much for their new teams,

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  53. Bjoe

    7 years ago

    If this was the best package the Orioles were offered, I’d love to see what Milwaukee and Philadelphia offered. Orioles got fleeced.

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    • RenoChris

      7 years ago

      You’re dumb

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      • jdgoat

        7 years ago

        From what some people were expecting, they definitely did get fleeced

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        • xabial

          7 years ago

          Lmao. He is a 2 month rental.

          Called “Yu Darvish package” one top 100 prospect, along with other prospects

          Everyone overrated Manny’s potential return.

          The package is just right. One top—100 plus 4 other pieces. People who think BAL got “fleeced” are LAD fans or misinformed.

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        • andrewf

          7 years ago

          The Orioles and I both have something in common: we both traded Machado. I had traded him in Fantasy Baseball in 2014 for Anthony Rendon. That was very good. This trade looks exciting on the Orioles end. Let’s see what they get for Britton, Jones, And every other player of value that is on the MLB roster right now.

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        • Jbigz12

          7 years ago

          May and Diaz was what I and a lot of others were expecting. Instead we got Diaz and Kremer plus 2 other prospects and a utility man which I don’t understand but it’s somethig to fill a roster spot I suppose. Kremer’s numbers are even better than May’s. He could easily be an under the radar prospect that zooms up. Those K’s numbers are great. If we snag a mid rotation starter and a potential very good outfielder for 3 months of Machado. That’s a good return. The kid Bannon has done nothing but hit in the minors but he’s undersized. You never know, he could be another piece. I don’t mind the trade at all.

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        • jekporkins

          7 years ago

          Xabial, you’re so dead on here. It was as good a package as they could get and it’s a nice one. They have four teams in the hunt till the last second and eeked every ounce of water out of that sponge that they could.

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    • Jimcarlo Slaton

      7 years ago

      Orioles did ok with the trade, considering Machado would have been gone after the season.. But they were foolish not to trade him before 2017, which would have gotten them a serious haul.

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    • Stevesabers

      7 years ago

      I’m sure they took the best package dipshit

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  54. Dark14ry

    7 years ago

    Those 2 HRs in the Futures Game set the hook into Baltimore.
    Nice get for the Dodgers. I like that they learned a lesson after failing to grab Verlander last season.

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  55. Begamin

    7 years ago

    I’d say that this deal was just about right. Maybe this will bring people down to earth that you have to give up everything and the moon like everyone here likes to propose.

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  56. yamsi1912

    7 years ago

    Dodgers will still miss the playoffs.

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  57. Gocubsgo1986

    7 years ago

    All for nothing when kemp, Muncy and stripling fall back to earth

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    • mlbdodgerfan2015

      7 years ago

      Offset by Taylor, Bellinger, Puig putting up better numbers.

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    • WarrenSpahn

      7 years ago

      why? what are you seeing in those three that they can’t sustain?

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      • Jbigz12

        7 years ago

        If you’re being serious kemp is highly unlikely to sustain a 362 BABIP all season. Stripling looks very good but he’s never pitched deep into a season so there’s reasons to believe he may wear down or be handled very cautiously. Hard to poke any holes in Muncy’s game. The track record isn’t there but he’s been great. The dodgers rotation is deeper than anyone in the West. If they could get another ace to pair with Kershaw that’d make them lethal. I’d be looking hard at Degrom if I were them. Verdugo, Ruiz, Buehler, and say Dustin may would be a hard package for the Mets to turn down. Buehler may be a stud but eventually you just have to go for it. Mets would grab a starting catcher a potential TOR pitcher. Another OF not a need but they can always flip one or two. And dustIn may another future rotation piece.

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        • ElysianPark

          7 years ago

          Lolol…there is NO way the Dodgers are parting with tgose guys–for ANYONE.

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        • Jbigz12

          7 years ago

          Then go in half way. Have a good team that doesn’t win the World Series for the next 5 years. Prospects are just prospects. The only guy I’d be wary about giving up is Buehler.

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  58. Niles

    7 years ago

    Bannon I think will be a great replacement for the Orioles at 3B where Machado played most of his time. Dodgers get a young premium player in Machado but only for a short period of time. Hopefully they can resign him and maybe trade Turner for starting pitching, if he is no longer in their plans. Otherwise, Dodgers will be reliving through a nightmare of trading off again if Bannon is a success in Baltimore.

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  59. Dkaner

    7 years ago

    You all got something instead of nothing but don’t get confused by the numbers. Tigers traded two number 1 prospects Andrew Miller & Camron Maybin with 3 other players for Miggy who was NOT a rental. Only Andrew Miller ended up being a star but only after he left Florida, bounced around, shifted to the bullpen and then finally became a star. Other than recently signing Maybin, again, Miami has ZERO other guys from that trade. You got 5 guys and one might be the real deal since LAD paid Diaz 30 million to sign him out of Cuba but he could be a boom or bust guy. The rest are just okay prospects so you all should still be pissed that they didn’t trade him last year where they could have maxed out his value. He’s the real deal, you had him, didn’t win with him, then traded him at the last possible moment for minimal return. SHAME ON MANAGEMENT! Dodgers can afford to trade these guys so good for them. Too bad they didn’t trade for JV last year during a miracle year. They went cheap on pitching and they still need it this year. Come and get FULMER all we need is an OF and SS both of which LAD doesn’t need!

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    • Begamin

      7 years ago

      How can two people both be number one prospects at the same time?

      i get what your saying tho im just messin tbh

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    • restingmitchface

      7 years ago

      Agreed. O’s should’ve traded him last year.

      Reply
    • Jbigz12

      7 years ago

      Fulmer would barely be an upgrade for LAD’s rotation. Stripling, Wood, Kershaw, and Maeda have all been better. Honestly add Walker Buehler to that list too. Not to mention rich Hill is an option. Fulmer is a nice controllable starter but he is not an ace. He just isn’t. I’d agree if a JV were attainable this year they should give it ago. They should definitely poke around about Degrom. Add him to Kershaw and you’ve got yourself a 1-2 punch. They certainly have the prospects to make it happen.

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    • Stevesabers

      7 years ago

      You don’t trade away stars when you are still in the hunt. Jesus, learn how baseball works

      Reply
    • Stevesabers

      7 years ago

      Fulmer is a 4th starter at best

      Reply
      • Jbigz12

        7 years ago

        That’s a little harsh. He’s a fourth starter at worst. He’s closer to a 3 than he is a #1 though. No doubt about that.

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        • iverbure

          7 years ago

          When did the dodgers pay 30 mil for Diaz?

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  60. sasha2063

    7 years ago

    Here is my question:
    Is he a rental for 6 month (he is a free agent at the year end) or he will be offered contract. If rental, than giving up that much…well not sure. If not a rental, than what would infield would look like next year?

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    • RedRooster

      7 years ago

      He is a rental. Signing him in free agency wouldn’t change that because they didn’t have to trade for him to be able to do that.

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  61. steelerbravenation

    7 years ago

    Jones & Britton next up

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  62. GOP Lizards

    7 years ago

    Dodgers greatest need is the pen’ machado is a luxury acquisition for low A and AA prospects. If anyone thinks LA’s pen is sufficient vs. good playoff caliber teams they are fooling themselves.

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    • Djones246890

      7 years ago

      Agreed. This is the “sexy” big name pickup that fans love, but this guy isn’t going to deliver a World Series. He’ll MARGINALLY help that cause, but it won’t be significant.

      The playoff are basically all about pitching and defense, and LA’s bullpen leaves a lot to be desired. Also, aside from Kershaw, their starters aren’t exactly amazing, either.

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  63. steelerbravenation

    7 years ago

    Britton to the Braves for Bryse Wilson

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    • bravesnvols

      7 years ago

      No way we send Wilson for a rental Zach Britton that has struggled. Especially after the return they just got for the best rental player in the game

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      • leftcoaster

        7 years ago

        If you think the Dodgers aren’t going to address their pitching needs before the trade deadline you need your head examined.

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      • Stevesabers

        7 years ago

        Britton is back on track and better the anyone the Braves have in the bullpen!

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  64. steelerbravenation

    7 years ago

    Jones to Indians for Tyler Freeman

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  65. John Casper

    7 years ago

    What would the Os get if draft compensation if they held on to him? The Dodgers or Phillies 1st plus a sandwich pick? If the Dodgers lose him, will they get that compensation? Would you rather a pick around 25 and 40 or Diaz?

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    • augold5

      7 years ago

      They would get a pick after rd 1 before the CB rd. Thats usually in the low 30’s

      Reply
    • Codeeg

      7 years ago

      They get no pick since he was traded after the season began

      Reply
  66. Cidron

    7 years ago

    Hiccup wth the medicals… Of course there was a hiccup with them. Its the Orioles Medical staff !! They will find a hiccup with the medicals on a perfectly healthy individual !!

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  67. sfg415sfc

    7 years ago

    Nice trade for both teams. LA drafts well and is always all over the international market. A couple low draft picks and Cuban for a franchise cornerstone type player. If it increases their odds of singing him this off season, more power to them. No doubt Machado will play the market and I see him going after $$… It will come down to money. LA vs NYY more than likely.

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  68. juicemane

    7 years ago

    5 players for an early playoff exit LOL…and wait so Forsythe isn’t good? oh boy you should of heard Dodgers fans 2 years ago. Guess it proves that your management ignorance has infected the minds of the fans…poor fellows

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    • jdgoat

      7 years ago

      You’re an idiot. They just got Machado for one good prospect and some lottery picks

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    • marijuasher

      7 years ago

      The first person I run to when I want to know what Dodger fans were thinking 2 years ago is a San Diego Padres fan. Because those guys don’t have an inferiority complex, or anything.

      Tell me more.

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      • chesteraarthur

        7 years ago

        They had a lot of time to follow the dodgers though because the padres certainly weren’t watchable.

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    • davidcoonce74

      7 years ago

      Early playoff exit? Did you miss the 2017 season? That was actually the latest possible playoff exit. I’m a Padres fan too but I can acknowledge that the Dodgers are a smart team run by smart people who also have the financial muscle to back it up.

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    • Bpamd3

      7 years ago

      ….but Forsythe WAS good 2 years ago?

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  69. Nate Killough

    7 years ago

    Now that is over, and the Orioles are dealing what would it cost the Braves to get both Jones and Britton?
    Max Fried and Alex Jackson plus a couple lower tier pitchers? Or less? Manny went cheaper than I thought he would.

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    • doxiedevil

      7 years ago

      Liberty stiffed Folty…….. Braves owners only in this for profit the new park generates.

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  70. Gwynning's Anal Lover

    7 years ago

    Nice haul for the O’s

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  71. joefriday1948

    7 years ago

    This is the absolute worst trade in the long history of major league baseball. The pundits, umpires, owners and even the Winter Baseball Leagues have all said the Dodgers gave away the store,the warehouse and addition. Some fans have come to the stadium and actually removed over a dozen seats as a token of the extreme seriousness of this devastating and irritating trade. Calls to move to Brooklyn are being made to radio stations. .Songs and poems have been written. Even Donald Trump has peppered a twitter outrage.. There is no happiness in Los Angeles. How can we possibly go on? The sun will never be seen again.. Let’s hope Putin was not behind this.

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    • BlueSkyLA

      7 years ago

      Well done. It wouldn’t be satire if everybody got it.

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    • WarrenSpahn

      7 years ago

      don’t blame the umpires for this….

      Reply
  72. doxiedevil

    7 years ago

    Baltimore made a smart move, 5 potential parts to a rebuild. Orioles should make everyone available for the right price and look to the future.

    Could be far worse, the Orioles could be owned by tight wads like Liberty Press. Yes, life long Brave fan since 1958.

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  73. scottblanks

    7 years ago

    They will not improve. Rebuilding years on the horizon.

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    • chesteraarthur

      7 years ago

      Is this comment about the O’s or the Dodgers? I’m assuming the O’s? In which case, that’s probably best for the health of that franchise.

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  74. CobiEven

    7 years ago

    Good trade for both teams. Dodgers get to wine and dine Machado for 3 months and the O’s get 5 lotto tickets. I think Baltimore will hit on at least one of these guys probably 2.

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  75. Ryan Hilson

    7 years ago

    Diaz isn’t good at anything no power no speed over rated

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    • CobiEven

      7 years ago

      I believe he has plus speed but not good at stealing bases. Last time I checked it was 70?

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      • stansfield123

        7 years ago

        It’s 55/80.

        55/80 means he runs the 60 yard dash in about 6.8 secs. For reference, that’s around the same as Brett Gardner (35 year old Gardner, not young Gardner). And only .4 secs slower than Mike Trout, who’s the best base runner in baseball.

        So you can be a great base runner with that speed. You just need to run the bases correctly.

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    • stansfield123

      7 years ago

      Actually, he is good at everything. His power is his weakest rated tool, at 50/80. Just so you know, a 50/80 means 15+ homers/year.

      He’s rated as an even better hitter, runner, fielder and thrower, than that.

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  76. scottaz

    7 years ago

    3 lessons from the Manny saga:

    1. Orioles ownership is out of touch with the current day value of rental players and clueless about public relations, i.e. setting fan expectations.. Oriole fans on these boards had unrealistic expectations about the return for Manny. I would have been pi$$ed off with the return.

    2. Even small/medium market teams with weak farm systems can effectively compete for good rental players, as evidenced by the Dbacks making an offer that was one of the top 5 finalists for Manny.

    3. Media sources, especially this website, make their living circulating and sometimes creating rumors. They need to constantly fold in Yankee based rumors, because the big market east coast teams are where their paychecks and jobs depend.

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    • Jbigz12

      7 years ago

      Top 5 for manny isn’t really an accomplishment. I can’t imagine there were more than 8-9 teams in on him and I can’t imahine more than 5-6 were seriously in on him. Even most weak farms have 2-3talented prospects in them so it’s not really much of a surprise that they could piece together an offer. It’s all about how much you feeel like gutting your weak farm.

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      • ElysianPark

        7 years ago

        Top five prospects?! That wasn’t the package at all. And Valera is not even a prospect.

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    • Stevesabers

      7 years ago

      I love this, weeks ago the Orioles weren’t getting anything for a rental. They got a top 100 prospect and four others and now people say it’s a bad deal. Make up your mind.

      Reply
  77. Speak da Truth

    7 years ago

    RedSox fan and im happy the Yankees didn’t get him don’t really care if we didn’t. Today was a good day.

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  78. leftcoaster

    7 years ago

    It’s fitting the Dodgers, MLB’s crown jewel, ended up with Machado.

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  79. JZodiax

    7 years ago

    Good to see Manny’s on a real team again.

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  80. RedRooster

    7 years ago

    So this is the third year in a row that the Dodgers have made a trade like this (a top 100 prospect plus a few other interesting pieces for an All Star who can be a free agent at the end of the season). So far, only one has remained with the Dodgers and even then, it was because they offered him the most money.

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    • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

      7 years ago

      It’s really also the third year in a row they didn’t give up anything of major significance. Your point? Which btw a free agent taking the most money offered color me shocked.

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      • RedRooster

        7 years ago

        A lot of Dodgers fans seem to think that, money being equal, Hill would have signed elsewhere if they hadn’t traded for him first.

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        • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

          7 years ago

          I mean maybe? If the Red Sox’s offer was equal, can you say 100% he was going to be a Dodger, bc I can’t. If Reddick or Darvish money was equal were they going to resign? Really there’s no correlation between trading for a guy and resigning them. I’m also not going to try to get into a players head. To attempt to speculate about it seems futile especially seeing as we don’t really know an individuals motivations.

          I’m also not really sure what your point is. It’s not as though money has been equal in many instances. But I regress. I think many times the Dodgers have made trades under the assumption that they can get a guy in that fits without expectation they will resign, or knowing they won’t be resigned unless it’s at their price. Generally though I’m not going to fault a FA for taking more money, which in many instances tends to happen.

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        • RedRooster

          7 years ago

          That’s the thing. The Red Sox’s offer wasn’t equal. It wasn’t even close. When I said “money being equal” I meant “money being equal to what was offered.”

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  81. gomerhodge71

    7 years ago

    Not really a bad player in the return batch for Baltimore which is unusual. All five could contribute. Gut feeling Bannon and Kremer could be major players for the O’s.

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    • Bobby Mongan

      7 years ago

      I agree…this trade was better than letting Manny Machado walk and receive compensation (Draft Pick). Sure there is only one player that is coming to Baltimore within the Top 100 Prospects, but no one at this point can absolutely make a judgement on a prospect who has yet to develop and reach the Major Leagues.The O’s received 5 potential players… Give it some time.

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    • stansfield123

      7 years ago

      So Diaz is the only name that actually counts. The others add up to a fraction of his value, and are mostly there to make the trade look good to Orioles fans.

      Still, a good trade for the Orioles. Diaz is a really good prospect. Probably gonna rank a lot higher on the mid season lists, than he does now.

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  82. ThatBallwasBryzzoed

    7 years ago

    Any Dodger fans getting a #13 Machado Jersey? Wikipedia says he’s #8. If I was a fan of LA I’d make it #13. Muncy can change his number for 2 months.

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    • BlueSkyLA

      7 years ago

      It really should not happen that way and usually it doesn’t. Muncy will probably be with the Dodgers for years, and Machado for only a few months. Machado will wear #8 during his brief time in LA and Muncy gets to keep his #13.

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  83. CobiEven

    7 years ago

    “I’ve been there quite a few times. My wife loves it; my family does as well. We’re just looking forward to enjoying the beautiful weather that’s out there. Going out there to play and try to win a championship.” Machado
    Like I said, sounds like a resign.

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