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New York Notes: Yankees, Mets, Hamels, Happ, deGrom, Asdrubal

By Mark Polishuk | July 25, 2018 at 8:25pm CDT

The latest buzz on the two teams from the Big Apple…

  • Though Cole Hamels has been hit hard over his last five starts, there is still trade interest in the veteran southpaw, with MLB.com’s T.R. Sullivan writing that “the Yankees could be the Rangers’ best chance of moving Hamels” before the deadline.  New York has continued to scout Hamels and has the prospect depth to offer Texas a better minor leaguer in exchange for the Rangers eating the large majority of Hamels’ remaining salary (thus helping the Yankees stay under the luxury tax threshold).  Of course, it remains to be seen how Hamels’ recent struggles will impact his price tag, plus there’s the potential obstacle of the Yankees being one of 20 teams on Hamels’ no-trade list.
  • As you might expect, the Blue Jays put a high initial asking price on J.A. Happ, asking the Yankees for either Clint Frazier or Justus Sheffield, Fancred Sports’ Jon Heyman tweets.  The Jays have reportedly since reduced their demands, which may be why the team seems to be closing in on a trade involving the veteran southpaw.  The Yankees are still involved in talks for Happ, though several other clubs have shown interest.
  • With Gary Sanchez on the DL until late August, Yankees GM Brian Cashman told reporters (including MLB.com’s Bryan Hoch) that the team is “comfortable” using Austin Romine and Kyle Higashioka behind the plate until Sanchez returns.  The Yankees will “certainly look” for possible catching additions, though “I already recognize it’s a very thin position,” Cashman said.
  • The Padres have checked in with the Mets about Jacob deGrom, the New York Post’s Joel Sherman reports.  San Diego is known to be looking at controllable frontline pitchers (i.e. Chris Archer, Michael Fulmer, Noah Syndergaard), so it stands to reason that deGrom would also be one of the club’s targets.  Sherman notes that since the Padres see themselves contending by 2020, they have more interest in Syndergaard than deGrom, as the latter is only controlled through 2020 while Syndergaard is controlled through 2021.  While the Mets’ two aces have drawn a lot of attention, however, there still isn’t much evidence that the Mets are actually considering moving either deGrom or Syndergaard.
  • Asdrubal Cabrera’s recent slump has hurt his already limited trade value within a crowded infield market, Kristie Ackert of the New York Daily News writes.  “Cabrera is a guy that you can pick up at the deadline if he is hot,” an executive from another team said.  “He’s not somebody that’s going to bring back much in terms of prospects. He’s a guy you could see go at the deadline or even pass through waivers in August.”  MLBTR’s Jeff Todd and Steve Adams ranked Cabrera fifth in MLBTR’s list of the top 75 trade candidates prior to the All-Star Game, though it’s important to note that trade likelihood plays just as large a role as trade value in our rankings.  With Cabrera not producing, the Mets may have to end up moving him simply in a salary dump.
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  1. Rocket32

    7 years ago

    If the Mets were smart Degrom would be traded already. Mets are never winning anything anytime soon thanks to the Wilpons. Mets have by far the best pitcher available at potentially his peak value in a trade market that has no other top level arms yet they aren’t taking advantage of it. Knowing the Mets they will trade him in a few years when he only has a few months of control left.

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    • bradthebluefish

      7 years ago

      Agreed, agreed, and agreed.

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    • justreading

      7 years ago

      there is no one on the mets that has the authority
      to trade degrom at this time. they need to get a
      general manager and some direction and trade him
      this offseason

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      • mikeyank55

        7 years ago

        First things first Just: nothing will change until Mets fans boycott the games and SNY to hurt the Wilpon’s. Mutt and Jeff need to be run out of town.

        With new owners there can be new beginnings and hope.

        Otherwise more Flushing Follies Soap Opera is what you will be watching.

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        • Hantoneenee

          7 years ago

          I’m starting to believe you’re right on this….hehehe

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        • mikeyank55

          7 years ago

          Thanks for coming around Hantoneenee.

          Now join the boycott:
          No more Mets tickets
          Click away from SNY
          Post on social media that you have dropped the Mets. Tell Abbott and Costello to sell the team or their revenue and advertising support will dry up.

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    • Djones246890

      7 years ago

      Agreed. And, it’ll be when his velocity has dipped by 2-3 MPH, curveball doesn’t curve as much, and he starts getting knocked around more.

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    • Hantoneenee

      7 years ago

      Disagree, If you’re a Mets fan and you just saw them move Familia with questionable timing and a questionable return, how could you have any faith in them getting fair value in a trade for deGrom, Thor or any of their controllable assets.
      I agree with just reading here. Until they have a definitive leader with a plan and direction in the front office, I wouldn’t want to see them move anyone controllable.
      I know yankee fans are dying for Cashman to fleece the Mets for Degrom. I’m just praying it doesn’t happen. Just sayin’

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      • tmcca

        7 years ago

        Degrom will cost the Yankees farm system and not going to happen.

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        • Hantoneenee

          7 years ago

          I still don’t have any faith in Mets Ownership or the front office at this point to do the correct thing. I think you’re right, Degrom should cost a hefty sum. Personally I think if a trade of Degrom to the yanks doesn’t bring back a package that starts with Torres, it’s a fail on the Mets part and a huggge win for the yanks.. I don’t want to see Degrom traded. That being said. If the yankees were to pay a hefty fair price for degrom, I’d be happy he got the chance to win. Just sayin’

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        • rivera42

          7 years ago

          A package that STARTS with Torres? Torres straight up for deGrom is not happening. Torres is not going anywhere.

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        • Brian Bickos

          7 years ago

          The Yanks seem like a natural trade partner. If not Torres, definitely Andujar and at least Adams or Sheffield. Otherwise, there’s actually no point in trading him to them, since they share a market and a back-page failure like the Familia deal would just be another kick in Mr. Met’s balls. It’s lunacy to suggest that it would be a surprise if a controllable 30-year-old pitcher at his peak who plays on a team that’s a raging dumpster fire is traded. The problem is, as everyone seems to know, that there is some delusion that the team can rebound and contend soon. After two straight years of horror, it has to be suggested that tearing down the aging talent on this club is necessary and that, with insurance paying most of David Wright and Yoenis Cespedes’ money, there is no reason for them to be shrewd.

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        • mikeyank55

          7 years ago

          Don’t waste your time fantasizing about what will never happen.

          Torres isn’t going anywhere.

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        • mikeyank55

          7 years ago

          Hey Brian-you are mostly right with one glaring exception.

          Mr. Met has no balls. They were sacrificed a very long time ago. However as you know the Mets manipulate information on players real health and so it was never reported.

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        • pinstripes7

          7 years ago

          The mets are too disorganized to make any moves. The commissioner of baseball should have forced the Wilcons to sell the club a long time ago. If San Diego is interested in thor, there should be no problem making a deal because of their deep system. The Yanks could offer Andujar, Sheffield and Florial, and the trade still wouldn’t happen because the mets are run by Moe, Larry and Curly. Just sayin….

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        • Hantoneenee

          7 years ago

          I agree that the yanks won’t do that. I wasn’t saying they should. I feel if they don’t get that from the yanks then don’t make the deal. If you want to buy something that I’m selling, I’m NOT gonna take what you want to pay. I’ll set my price and if it’s not met I won’t sell. Degrom is still controlled. I’ll take the risk his value may go down. It also may go up or stay the same….Just sayin’

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        • JKB 2

          7 years ago

          Torres is not only not starting the package he ends it as its not happening.

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        • Hantoneenee

          7 years ago

          That would make senese to me if the Mets actually had a GM in place. If Torres is NOT included in the package, is it not possible for the Mets to get a comparable package from another team? Survey all of the Yanks major competitors then. All I’m saying is I think Torres in the trade puts Degrom in the Bronx for sure. I don’t see the benefit of the Mets trading degrom to the yanks when they don’t get what they’re asking for and instead take what the yanks are willing to part with. Especiallywith the current state of the Mets front office. I say if you want something, pay the price or keep it moving and tell you’re story walking. Just sayin’

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        • Hantoneenee

          7 years ago

          I totally accept that anwswer. Then the Yanks should keep it moving and look somewhere else to get a starter. in my opinion of course..

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        • Hantoneenee

          7 years ago

          The commissioner of baseball should have forced the Wilcons to sell the club a long time ago

          I’m buying what you’re selling here.

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    • gorav114

      7 years ago

      Can’t fault them as they expected to compete this season. Now they know it’s over so they need to strike while the iron is

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      • mikeyank55

        7 years ago

        Who expected then to compete? Delusional fans, a naive manager and Joel Sherman.

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      • JKB 2

        7 years ago

        Expected to compete? By who? Did you see their opening day roster and starting outfield.

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        • mikeyank55

          7 years ago

          Weak up the middle.
          Weak in the brain
          Weak in the wallet.

          This is mets magic.

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    • dugmet

      7 years ago

      mets are not that far away from being competitive. the likelihood of receiving equal or better value for degrom or syndergaard is a long shot. see Sale deal. better asset to deal is Wheeler who can bring back up to 2 prospects with equal or better potential. He’s cheap and controllable and if you strike out on the deal, you wont have list a franchise player for nothing.

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      • mikeyank55

        7 years ago

        Hey Dug-I’m glad to hear that you have been woken from a deep sleep that has wiped away the past three years.

        So here’s your wake up call: you are the only delusional Mets fan left here that believes that the Mets are not that far away from being competitive.

        You should read through the history of just this season—from an 11-1 record to start to the worst team in the NL since. You should have a friend with you as it may be hard to absorb and it would be best not to try to take it all in on your own.

        B-T-W when you are done you can join the official Wilpon resistance.

        Boycott the Mets.
        No more ticket purchases
        No SNY
        Post on social media, “Mets fans want their team back. Wilpon’s need to sell!”

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        • dugmet

          7 years ago

          Wilpon isn’t going to sell, so… why bother?

          I don’t do any of your suggestions anyhow. I don’t buy merchandise, tickets, or watch SNY. I live in Georgia. I guess Mets ownership gets a fraction of my MLB At Bat subscription. That’s it.

          Mets have a good young pitching core with two elite arms plus some improving young players (Conforto, Nimmo, Rosario) at the MLB level. The minor league system is solid despite what the press thinks. Alonso, McNeil, Gimenez, and Dunn all played at the AA level or higher this season and could contribute in 1 to 2 years. Lower, they are exceptionally strong. Some of: Mauricio, Newton, Kelenic, Peterson, Hernandez – Adrian and Kenny, Sanchez, Kay, Vientos, Santana, Dirocie, plus others may prove to be elite prospects.

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        • mikeyank55

          7 years ago

          If you espoused this rant at a Braves game you would need a body guard to protect you from the instructs that you would attract.

          All of the elite prospects are overrated by playing in a make believe place (Vegas) where stats are skewed.

          The Mets are ALMOST LAST by most measures of minor league talent. Or do you not read there in Georgia.

          The press knows more than a know it all from Queens who makes believe that he is from far away.

          Frank McCourt wasn’t going to sell either, until a combination of financial pressure from lost revenue and viewership took too much out of his purse and the lost sponsorships and commercials on Dodgers network took too much of his pride.

          And for the record, why bother support a team who’s owners are milking the fans?

          Do you have any pride in supporting a team that is an absolute embarrassment? Or do you enjoy the self inflicted pain of getting what you deserve?

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      • JKB 2

        7 years ago

        Not far away from competing? I would love to see your analysis on how that can happen

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    • 62tonow

      7 years ago

      Agreed. Plus he will be 32 in two years and I don’t want to sign him then. He’s like a stock at its all time high. Sell!

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  2. Padres2019ha

    7 years ago

    Mejia, Quantrill, Naylor, Allen should get Thor. and that’s my final offer!

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    • SixFlagsMagicPadres

      7 years ago

      If they’re going for a controllable starter, they might as well go for Thor. Out of the group they’re looking at, he’s the only one who is worth the prospect investment.

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      • Dustin Michels

        7 years ago

        I am a Tigers fan so maybe bias but I think Fulmer would be wisest chose for SD. He has 4 more years of control and his ‘regression’ in stats is strictly last years 2nd half and this years 1st half poor performance. Those two halves sandwhich the nerve issue last year and then off season surgery. DeGrom who everyone wants this year had the same issue. He is a proven to be 2.6 ERA or better since 2014 besides a 3.7 ERA the 2nd half of 2016 and 1st half of 2017 for same nerve issue and off season surgery as Fulmer.

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        • SixFlagsMagicPadres

          7 years ago

          Those are some good points. I guess I guess the way I’m looking at it is that Thor might have the highest ceiling and going for high ceiling guys is Preller’s M.O. Although I’d certainly prefer seeing them pursue Thor or Fulmer over Archer

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        • Jbigz12

          7 years ago

          I’d rather have Thor for 25 starts a year. He’s head and shoulders above fulmer. I’d roll with my prospects if I were the padres and the option was fulmer. Let your guys develop if he isn’t a special talent like Syndergaard. He has a higher injury risk but he’s special when he’s on the mound. Fulmer is a good enough pitcher and all but that’s not a guy I trade a package of prospects for.

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        • Mike Angarone

          7 years ago

          When was the last time he had 25 starts? Injuries have to be a concern

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        • mikeyank55

          7 years ago

          Here are the realities jbigz:

          Stop with the superhero name for Noah.

          He only way that Noah is Heads and Shoulders above Fulmer is that he has the MLB contract for Heads and Shoulders shampoo.

          Noah will not pitch in 25 games unless he starts to dedicate himself to being healthy and not alpha pitcher.

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    • Knowthemarket

      7 years ago

      Two top 50…hell, nearly top 30 prospects plus a couple ad on SHOULD do it. However, if I’m the Padres, even though Tatis is ranked the highest, there is nearly no difference in value between McKennzy, Tatis and Meija. Meija being a catcher really helps to inflate his value.

      The Padres have plenty of high end talent outside of those three. So maybe try building it around Urias/Espinoza and a lottery ticket or two.

      Personally, at this point in Syndagaards career, I think he is one hell of a risk. In his four years he has completed just one full season.

      I appreciate any team that builds a winner through its farm so I love what the Padres have done. I would hate to see them squander prospect capital. Thor really does have some high end potential but he scares me.

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    • padres_2020

      7 years ago

      Given Quantrill’s struggles this year, the Mets will probably say no.. I would probably offer Mejia (top 20), Logan Allen (Top 100), Nix (borderline top 100) and someone from the major league roster..

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      • Knowthemarket

        7 years ago

        Again, Thor is a huge risk for so much prospect capital, and Meija is a catcher. Strong defending Catchers that have elite bats are rare. The catcher position is the lightest hitting position in babeball so Meija is a chance to strike gold. They reject Quantril then fine, but don’t use Meija or those top 3.

        The Padres have plenty of top end prospects IF they decided to take the tremendous risk of Syndagaard. I mentioned Syndagaard has completed 1 full season in 4 right? =}

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        • Padres2019ha

          7 years ago

          Mejia has question marks about his defense. We already have hedges..one is getting moved I assume. I’d rather include Mejia in a Realmuto trade if the opportunity arises. I think the Padres are gonna make some big moves. I just hope they don’t overpay too much for someone like Archer

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        • mikeyank55

          7 years ago

          Remember that under the Mets ownership and management gold turns to mud.

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  3. doctorhfuhruhirr

    7 years ago

    Frazier or Sheffield for Happ? LOL

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    • Boogaloo

      7 years ago

      They are Canadian, ya gotta cut them some slack.

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      • jdgoat

        7 years ago

        Your comments are very well thought out Boogaloo. Every single one!

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    • User 4245925809

      7 years ago

      It’s funny stuff. boston eats him alive. Junk baller on severe trajectory downward. Hard time getting over how teams think he is an improvement over fringey arm now.

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      • jdgoat

        7 years ago

        J.A Happ has thrown 10.2 innings against Boston this year and has given up 1 (singular) earned run. He had one inning where his defence let him down and then gave up a grand slam on what will probably be the best AB of the season against one of the games best players. But ya, they sure ate him alive.

        And now that I look through the 2017 season, J.A Happ threw 23.2 innings giving up 5 earned runs against Boston.

        So please Johnsilver, don’t comment again on stuff you clearly know nothing about.

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        • jdgoat

          7 years ago

          Lmao since Happ resigned with the BlueJays in the 2015 offseason he has never given up more than 2 earned runs in a game against the Red Sox.

          Internet comment sections man

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        • Jbigz12

          7 years ago

          You can always tell a Canadian by the way they spell “defence.”

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      • driftcat28 2

        7 years ago

        Boston eats who alive? Not Happ who’s 7-4 with a 2.98 ERA and 7.0 k/9 in his career against Boston. Not to shabby I’d say

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        • tmcca

          7 years ago

          You see his last 2 outings against Boston? Threw 58 pitches in one inning and gave up a grand slam bomb to Betts. Red Sox figured him out the last 2 starts.

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        • jdgoat

          7 years ago

          And the other start? 7 innings, 1 run, 10 k’s.

          But you’re going to write him off because of an inning where both a mental mistake and an error occurred? Had either play been made, that grand slam would’ve never happened. Hence, the unearned runs. And you gotta give Betts props for that at bat. It was an epic battle and unfortunately for J.A, he lost it.

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        • majorflaw

          7 years ago

          “You see his last 2 outings against Boston?”

          Excellent. Both small sample size error and recency bias rolled into a single comment. Nice work, indeed!

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          7 years ago

          There’s the old small sample size theatre, as Brian Kenny likes to say.

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        • mikeyank55

          7 years ago

          Speaking of nice work Flaw, I’m glad to see you posting after your hiatus from Mets postings recently.

          Perhaps you have a new perspective regarding their marquis players’ abilities to stay healthy?

          In case you missed it, you can watch a rerun on John Oliver’s HBO show this past Sunday. Oliver took a summer break from discussing geo political issues and just went through the past few weeks’ events at the Flushing Follies.

          Take a bit of your own advice about small sample size. Lol

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    • tmcca

      7 years ago

      Plus another prospect.Why suprised? GM of Jays admitted this on WFAN that any deals coming to yankees will have to pay premium price.

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      • thegreatcerealfamine

        7 years ago

        No GM would say that anywhere in the media.

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    • DoItDoug

      7 years ago

      What about McKinney and ? For Happ?

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      • pinstripes7

        7 years ago

        McKinney alone is plenty. Happ is a 35 year old rental who’s pitching poorly. Let the Cubs have him.

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    • jdgoat

      7 years ago

      Obviously wasn’t going to happen but why not try? I bet Cashman wasn’t expecting to get Torres for 2 months of Chapman yet he pulled that off

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      • ThePriceWasRight

        7 years ago

        acevedo and loaisiga for happ

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        • rivera42

          7 years ago

          Massive overpayment. Happ is a rental.

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  4. Dustin Michels

    7 years ago

    From a neutral observer I think that is a strong fair offer though I would be hesitant to make that big splash that San Diego is looking to do on Thor. I worry the DL stints will come and go throughout the next three years.

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  5. jb19

    7 years ago

    Yankees are going to get knocked out by the As in the wild card round. The only question is, will britton make an appearance?

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  6. mike156

    7 years ago

    Why on Earth would the Yankees waste decent prospects on Hamels? It makes zero sense

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    • jdgoat

      7 years ago

      I wouldn’t think the prospects would have to be too decent when you take both salary and performance into account

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      • tmcca

        7 years ago

        Texas will eat salary so will cost Yankees probably like Britton Deal. Abreu, Adams, Cabrera.

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        • jdgoat

          7 years ago

          Hamels sucks though. There is a zero percent chance he’ll bring back a prospect of that caliber

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        • rivera42

          7 years ago

          Where do you people come up with these asinine deals? Just pulling names out of a hat, I guess.

          Hey, Milwaukee… Neil Walker for Corbin Burnes and Brett Phillips? Way too much for Walker? Absolutely! But then again, why the hell not if we’re not going to be grounded in reality.

          No, the Yankees are not doing Abreu, Adams, and Cabrera for Hamels. Hamels has minimal value, even if Texas eats salary.

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        • JKB 2

          7 years ago

          Tmcca what are you smoking

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    • tsc32

      7 years ago

      Honestly Hamels will probably be a reliable veteran arm once someone gets him away from Brocail. Dude has no clue how to do his job.

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  7. dazedatnoon

    7 years ago

    things starting to pick up finally. hopefully the trades keep coming!

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  8. MiddleIn

    7 years ago

    Padres see themselves contending by when?

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  9. justreading

    7 years ago

    yanks really want happ but jays continue to ask for too much,
    so yanks are feigning interest in hammels to press jays
    I hope!!!!

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    • tmcca

      7 years ago

      Happ going to Mariners unless Yankees give Sheffield or Frazier that’s what I heard. Yankees should give Frazier straight up, yes a lot to give up but maybe the Jays want more than that. Yankees need a starter and GM of Jays really don’t like the Yankees. He admitted it on WFAN that Yankees will have to pay premium price for any trade coming from our way. However, if Yankees give Frazier or Sheffield and another prospect Jays would be hard to not accept. Tell me who needs the trade more Jays or Yankees? Jays have the upper hand period. I think Seattle will get Happ for 3 prospects than Yankees really in trouble.

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      • rivera42

        7 years ago

        Yeah, that’s never going to happen. Frazier/Sheffield for a 35-year-old rental. Keep dreaming.

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      • thetruth 2

        7 years ago

        Toronto are not getting anywhere near what they expect for Happ.

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      • mikeyank55

        7 years ago

        Hey TMCCA-besides your warped suggestions about who has the upper hand you need some online help with sentence structure so that you don’t have fragments running into each other.

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  10. koz16

    7 years ago

    Frazier or Sheffield for two months of Happ? GM’s that make offers like that will quickly lose credibility among their peers.

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    • justreading

      7 years ago

      jays were asking for a top3/top100 prospect
      certainly can not believe they will get it for 2
      months of happ

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      • tmcca

        7 years ago

        Happ not going to Yankees that is a fact unless they give up Sheffield or Frazier period. Jays firm on this. If your Cashman what you do? Hamels? Lol

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        • sam 17

          7 years ago

          Cashman will call up Sheffield rather than trade him for Happ.

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        • driftcat28 2

          7 years ago

          You make it sound like Happ is a #1 ace pitcher lmao. Happ will be dealt for mid tier guys. Keep dreaming on Frazier or Sheffield

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        • justreading

          7 years ago

          agreed, he is saving shefield
          didn’t call him up for a start or two
          this week cause he didn’t want to risk losing
          value if he needed him in a major trade

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        • tmcca

          7 years ago

          Jays asking that from Yankees not saying Yankees will do it lol. Jays GM said if they dont include Sheffield or Frazier than he isnt going to Yankees. Hamels has a no trade claus to Yankees so that may get interesting.

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        • tmcca

          7 years ago

          Your smoking he isn’t ready.

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        • tmcca

          7 years ago

          This deadline he is #1 pitcher just saying. Degrom not available unless you give at least 4 very good prospects.

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        • rivera42

          7 years ago

          Can you stop posting, dude? You’re kind of horrible at it.

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          7 years ago

          No he didn’t. Post it multiple times doesn’t make it true.

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  11. tmcca

    7 years ago

    Degrom would cost the Yankees at least Frazier/Sheffield/Adams/Andujar period. You think Yankees would give that much? Doubt it.

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    • justreading

      7 years ago

      mets do not have a general manager
      so it doesn’t matter at this time

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      • mikeyank55

        7 years ago

        Hey just-TMCCA is a ringer for the UTR general Manager of the Mets. Look at his delusion; he has consumed the same juice as the Three Stooges and Abbott & Costello.

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    • LongTimeFan1

      7 years ago

      No reason to trade him to the Yankees when a better return can come from the Padres – and Mets won’t have to deal with Degrom as Yankee.

      But I wouldn’t trade Degrom. Sign to extension. Trade Syndergaard to Padres which, at the least should require a return that includes Tatis Jr or Mejia plus several others.

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      • Padres2019ha

        7 years ago

        Ha,nah. Thor hasn’t proven he’s durable. Those guys are “untouchable”.

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      • mikeyank55

        7 years ago

        deGrom WILL NOT sign an extension.

        What part of this won’t you accept; top free agents want top money AND the BEST chance to WIN.

        This year deGrom will only have single digits’ wins for an otherwise Acy Young season.

        He won’t take the money and willingly stay in the Flushing prison.

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  12. tmcca

    7 years ago

    Happ traded to Mariners supposedly for 3 prospects coming up.

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  13. baseball365

    7 years ago

    I would be deeply concerned if I were a Blue Jays fan and question the competency of your baseball front office. The simple fact that they asked for either Clint Frazier or Justus Sheffield is beyond stupid and undermines the whole process of retooling the team. And no, the typical excuse of “well, you’ve got to try” doesn’t apply here. This folks, is a baseball front office that has an extremely poor understanding of their assets.

    A real solid assessment for Happ in a trade are a couple of prospects in the 15-20 range. Maybe a Cody Carroll and Josh Rogers package that went to the Orioles. Maybe McKinney and Trevor Stephan.

    Again, I’d be deeply concerned if I were a Jays fan right now. That front office is not thinking right. Lol. Sheffield. Lol. Lol. Lol.

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    • LongTimeFan1

      7 years ago

      I don’t see the harm in asking.

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      • baseball365

        7 years ago

        As a business man who negotiates deals for a living if I were on the other end of that phone call that said Sheffield or Frazier I’d be like “seriously, man”
        That’s a fast way to lose the respect of your peers. Because it basically illustrates you have no idea what you’re doing. You want to make a deal. Come at me with a legit proposal and let’s talk.

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    • tmcca

      7 years ago

      Jays GMwill never trade with Yankees period unless they blow him away. He admitted this on WFAN than he backtracked a couple days later said if deal is right he would. Why should he? Same division. Jays getting Yankees involved drives the price up for Mariners. Happ most likely goes to Seattle that is the most logical place. Jays I am sure know the Yanks wont give up Frazier or Sheffield, but maybe they will. Lets say Seattle gets Happ and pitches against the Yankees in that one playoff game and loses than what? lol

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      • baseball365

        7 years ago

        Honestly, your comment and this logic makes absolutely zero sense and if true, it further validates my above comment that the Jays have no idea what they’re doing. Why wouldn’t you trade a 2 month rental in the division. Jays are already out of it, so what they heck do they care? Serious question. It’s not like they’re trading a controllable pitcher at a discount that they will face for the next 2-3 years.

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        • tmcca

          7 years ago

          Atkins (GM OF JAYS) said it time and time again the division teams will pay premium price for any players via trade. Can he still go to Yankees? Sure, but I think Yankees turning to Hamels now. Cubs or Mariners favorite for Happ due to high demands from Jays for Happ.

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        • thetruth 2

          7 years ago

          Seattle have a terrible farm.

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      • mikeyank55

        7 years ago

        Then what not than what.

        English 101 is a good idea TMCCA!

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      • mikeyank55

        7 years ago

        Hey TMCA or whatever. Blown away instead of Jays GM being blown away.

        It’s been a tough day for you as all of your predictions went down the toilet. It’s ok. Take a Valium.

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    • jdgoat

      7 years ago

      They got Teoscar Hernandez for Francisco freaking Liriano at this time last year. Happ is 10x the pitcher and plus he was going to a division rival. To think there’s any harm with starting out with a high asking price and coming down is ridiculous. That’s how negotiations work. One team starts high, one starts low, you meet in the middle.

      Why would any team want to start in the middle and have to go up or down from there?

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      • baseball365

        7 years ago

        Wrong, this is not how negotiations work. As someone who has handled thousands of them (yes, thousands), that’s probably the worst approach. I’ve witnessed people employ that same absurd strategy and lose more than they would have gained, had they approached the negotiation with a better understanding of their asset and market. Maybe they could have squeezed the Yanks for Dillon Tate had they gone about it right. Now they’re lucky to get a Stephan type if they’re lucky.

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        • tmcca

          7 years ago

          I doubt he is going to Yankees, I am thinking Mariners. YAnkees look like out and turning to Hamels.

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        • mikeyank55

          7 years ago

          TMCCA-wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

          Three strikes. Time for
          Your mother to revoke your internet.

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      • Jbigz12

        7 years ago

        They paid liriano’s salary as well as Nori Aoki’s. Can’t overlook that. They bought teoscar essentially.

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        • baseball365

          7 years ago

          I was just going to edit my comment and add that. Thank you.

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      • tmcca

        7 years ago

        GM of the Jays made it clear he will only take Frazier or Sheffield for Happ. I agree that asking price is high, but Yankees feeling desperate. GM of Jays said this on WFAN that division teams will have to pay a premium price. Tell me last time Jays and Yankees made a trade? Ross Atkins hates the Yankees this is what Mike said on WFAN.

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        • baseball365

          7 years ago

          Please stop. Really. Feeling desperate? The Yanks would be FAR better off just giving Sheffield a chance instead of Happ and his 4.28ERA. Thanks, but no thanks.

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        • tmcca

          7 years ago

          Sheffield no way ready probably looking at 2020 to hit Majors. Yankees need a starter period. Why should Jays ask for less? Mariners most likely the team that gets Happ.

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        • tmcca

          7 years ago

          Yankees could miss playoffs at current situation. Yankees have been playing basically 500 ball lately and you think they will give Sheffield a chance? Lol

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        • Jbigz12

          7 years ago

          If the jays make the price too ridiculous then they can keep Happ until his contract expires in a few months. They don’t set the price. Teams will pivot and look at other guys.

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        • Jbigz12

          7 years ago

          “Sheffield is looking at 2020 to hit the majors” maybe if he has TJ surgery next month. That’s just an uneducated comment. He has made 12 very good starts at AAA.
          You’ll see him in September if not very early next season.

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        • tmcca

          7 years ago

          He will be traded just not to Yankees unless they stop asking for Frazier or Sheffield.

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        • tmcca

          7 years ago

          I stand corrected, yes I think he is on 40 man roster. It’s dangerous to go with a rookie no experience when your trying to win world series.

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        • mikeyank55

          7 years ago

          TMCCA—have you retired or are you the guy with the big tire in his mouth. Your predictions are so baseless and off kilter you qualify to be the next GM for the Mets. They love big mouths who are short on brains.

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    • jdgoat

      7 years ago

      Do you have any concerns over Houston’s front office Baseball365, the FO that built a World Series winner and what looks to be a perennial power house? I don’t know if you remember or not, but a few years ago they had some files leaked (thanks Cardinals). In those files they had trade negotiations and the main one was around Bud Norris. Bud Norris threw to a 4.18 ERA and 3.86 Fip (almost identical to Happ) in 2013 and was a target for many contenders during that season.

      The players that Luhnow asked for as just part of a package?

      Xander Bogaerts
      Marcus Stroman
      Dylan Bundy
      Tyler Glasnow

      He asked for Lucas Giolito, a top prospect at the time, for Lucas Harrell. LUCAS HARRELL.

      So long story short, I’m not concerned about a front office asking too much for a player. Houston turned out just fine with that approach. And I’m especially not worried since it’s the front office that built a team in the Indians that’s been atop their division and to the World Series recently

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    • ThePriceWasRight

      7 years ago

      I was thinking acevedo and Whitlock originally.

      Reply
  14. tsc32

    7 years ago

    Maybe Hamels + $$$ for Jonathan Loaisiga and Deivi Garcia?

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    • rivera42

      7 years ago

      Nope. Hamels + $$ for two signed Judge bats and a bucket of BP balls from Judge and Stanton. Does Hamels have any value at all?

      Reply
  15. Injediwetrust

    7 years ago

    The Padres have their Syndergaard, Fulmer, Archer. His name is Chris Paddack with 6+ yrs of control. The way he’s blowing through AA, he should,have a real shot for the 2019 rotation. Keep those premium prospects and move along AJ,. There are plenty more problems to resolve than selling off what you built for fragile pipe dreams who won’t even be around long enough for a playoff run.

    Please tell me you learned something for the 2015 disaster.

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    • Padres2019ha

      7 years ago

      Dude is killing it. Him and Logan Allen are gonna be big time surprises. 1.19 era since his promotion to AA.

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    • SixFlagsMagicPadres

      7 years ago

      I want to think (or hope) that Preller knows this and that this is more Ron Fowler getting on his case once again that the rebuild is taking too long and so something needs to be done to help get more fans’ butts in the seats at a quicker rate ( while also bringing him a better bottom line in the process).

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  16. frankiegxiii

    7 years ago

    I haven’t seen J.A. Happ pitch in the last couple seasons, can someone tell me why the Blue Jays have a high asking price for him? When I see his stats I picture a back end starter, did he have a rough start to the season and then heat up as the season progressed?

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    • jdgoat

      7 years ago

      He’s had like three bad starts in his past six. Before this stretch he had an ERA in the 3.50’s and was pitching like the pitchers hes been for the past few seasons. It’s been a long time since Happ was a backend starter

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  17. Garmo87

    7 years ago

    Too bad Tate got traded to the Orioles, it would have been funny to see him traded for Hamels.

    Reply

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