The latest buzz on the two teams from the Big Apple…
- Though Cole Hamels has been hit hard over his last five starts, there is still trade interest in the veteran southpaw, with MLB.com’s T.R. Sullivan writing that “the Yankees could be the Rangers’ best chance of moving Hamels” before the deadline. New York has continued to scout Hamels and has the prospect depth to offer Texas a better minor leaguer in exchange for the Rangers eating the large majority of Hamels’ remaining salary (thus helping the Yankees stay under the luxury tax threshold). Of course, it remains to be seen how Hamels’ recent struggles will impact his price tag, plus there’s the potential obstacle of the Yankees being one of 20 teams on Hamels’ no-trade list.
- As you might expect, the Blue Jays put a high initial asking price on J.A. Happ, asking the Yankees for either Clint Frazier or Justus Sheffield, Fancred Sports’ Jon Heyman tweets. The Jays have reportedly since reduced their demands, which may be why the team seems to be closing in on a trade involving the veteran southpaw. The Yankees are still involved in talks for Happ, though several other clubs have shown interest.
- With Gary Sanchez on the DL until late August, Yankees GM Brian Cashman told reporters (including MLB.com’s Bryan Hoch) that the team is “comfortable” using Austin Romine and Kyle Higashioka behind the plate until Sanchez returns. The Yankees will “certainly look” for possible catching additions, though “I already recognize it’s a very thin position,” Cashman said.
- The Padres have checked in with the Mets about Jacob deGrom, the New York Post’s Joel Sherman reports. San Diego is known to be looking at controllable frontline pitchers (i.e. Chris Archer, Michael Fulmer, Noah Syndergaard), so it stands to reason that deGrom would also be one of the club’s targets. Sherman notes that since the Padres see themselves contending by 2020, they have more interest in Syndergaard than deGrom, as the latter is only controlled through 2020 while Syndergaard is controlled through 2021. While the Mets’ two aces have drawn a lot of attention, however, there still isn’t much evidence that the Mets are actually considering moving either deGrom or Syndergaard.
- Asdrubal Cabrera’s recent slump has hurt his already limited trade value within a crowded infield market, Kristie Ackert of the New York Daily News writes. “Cabrera is a guy that you can pick up at the deadline if he is hot,” an executive from another team said. “He’s not somebody that’s going to bring back much in terms of prospects. He’s a guy you could see go at the deadline or even pass through waivers in August.” MLBTR’s Jeff Todd and Steve Adams ranked Cabrera fifth in MLBTR’s list of the top 75 trade candidates prior to the All-Star Game, though it’s important to note that trade likelihood plays just as large a role as trade value in our rankings. With Cabrera not producing, the Mets may have to end up moving him simply in a salary dump.
If the Mets were smart Degrom would be traded already. Mets are never winning anything anytime soon thanks to the Wilpons. Mets have by far the best pitcher available at potentially his peak value in a trade market that has no other top level arms yet they aren’t taking advantage of it. Knowing the Mets they will trade him in a few years when he only has a few months of control left.
Mejia, Quantrill, Naylor, Allen should get Thor. and that’s my final offer!
If they’re going for a controllable starter, they might as well go for Thor. Out of the group they’re looking at, he’s the only one who is worth the prospect investment.
I am a Tigers fan so maybe bias but I think Fulmer would be wisest chose for SD. He has 4 more years of control and his ‘regression’ in stats is strictly last years 2nd half and this years 1st half poor performance. Those two halves sandwhich the nerve issue last year and then off season surgery. DeGrom who everyone wants this year had the same issue. He is a proven to be 2.6 ERA or better since 2014 besides a 3.7 ERA the 2nd half of 2016 and 1st half of 2017 for same nerve issue and off season surgery as Fulmer.
Those are some good points. I guess I guess the way I’m looking at it is that Thor might have the highest ceiling and going for high ceiling guys is Preller’s M.O. Although I’d certainly prefer seeing them pursue Thor or Fulmer over Archer
I’d rather have Thor for 25 starts a year. He’s head and shoulders above fulmer. I’d roll with my prospects if I were the padres and the option was fulmer. Let your guys develop if he isn’t a special talent like Syndergaard. He has a higher injury risk but he’s special when he’s on the mound. Fulmer is a good enough pitcher and all but that’s not a guy I trade a package of prospects for.
When was the last time he had 25 starts? Injuries have to be a concern
Here are the realities jbigz:
Stop with the superhero name for Noah.
He only way that Noah is Heads and Shoulders above Fulmer is that he has the MLB contract for Heads and Shoulders shampoo.
Noah will not pitch in 25 games unless he starts to dedicate himself to being healthy and not alpha pitcher.
Two top 50…hell, nearly top 30 prospects plus a couple ad on SHOULD do it. However, if I’m the Padres, even though Tatis is ranked the highest, there is nearly no difference in value between McKennzy, Tatis and Meija. Meija being a catcher really helps to inflate his value.
The Padres have plenty of high end talent outside of those three. So maybe try building it around Urias/Espinoza and a lottery ticket or two.
Personally, at this point in Syndagaards career, I think he is one hell of a risk. In his four years he has completed just one full season.
I appreciate any team that builds a winner through its farm so I love what the Padres have done. I would hate to see them squander prospect capital. Thor really does have some high end potential but he scares me.
Given Quantrill’s struggles this year, the Mets will probably say no.. I would probably offer Mejia (top 20), Logan Allen (Top 100), Nix (borderline top 100) and someone from the major league roster..
Again, Thor is a huge risk for so much prospect capital, and Meija is a catcher. Strong defending Catchers that have elite bats are rare. The catcher position is the lightest hitting position in babeball so Meija is a chance to strike gold. They reject Quantril then fine, but don’t use Meija or those top 3.
The Padres have plenty of top end prospects IF they decided to take the tremendous risk of Syndagaard. I mentioned Syndagaard has completed 1 full season in 4 right? =}
Mejia has question marks about his defense. We already have hedges..one is getting moved I assume. I’d rather include Mejia in a Realmuto trade if the opportunity arises. I think the Padres are gonna make some big moves. I just hope they don’t overpay too much for someone like Archer
Remember that under the Mets ownership and management gold turns to mud.
Frazier or Sheffield for Happ? LOL
They are Canadian, ya gotta cut them some slack.
Your comments are very well thought out Boogaloo. Every single one!
It’s funny stuff. boston eats him alive. Junk baller on severe trajectory downward. Hard time getting over how teams think he is an improvement over fringey arm now.
J.A Happ has thrown 10.2 innings against Boston this year and has given up 1 (singular) earned run. He had one inning where his defence let him down and then gave up a grand slam on what will probably be the best AB of the season against one of the games best players. But ya, they sure ate him alive.
And now that I look through the 2017 season, J.A Happ threw 23.2 innings giving up 5 earned runs against Boston.
So please Johnsilver, don’t comment again on stuff you clearly know nothing about.
Lmao since Happ resigned with the BlueJays in the 2015 offseason he has never given up more than 2 earned runs in a game against the Red Sox.
Internet comment sections man
You can always tell a Canadian by the way they spell “defence.”
Boston eats who alive? Not Happ who’s 7-4 with a 2.98 ERA and 7.0 k/9 in his career against Boston. Not to shabby I’d say
You see his last 2 outings against Boston? Threw 58 pitches in one inning and gave up a grand slam bomb to Betts. Red Sox figured him out the last 2 starts.
And the other start? 7 innings, 1 run, 10 k’s.
But you’re going to write him off because of an inning where both a mental mistake and an error occurred? Had either play been made, that grand slam would’ve never happened. Hence, the unearned runs. And you gotta give Betts props for that at bat. It was an epic battle and unfortunately for J.A, he lost it.
“You see his last 2 outings against Boston?”
Excellent. Both small sample size error and recency bias rolled into a single comment. Nice work, indeed!
There’s the old small sample size theatre, as Brian Kenny likes to say.
Speaking of nice work Flaw, I’m glad to see you posting after your hiatus from Mets postings recently.
Perhaps you have a new perspective regarding their marquis players’ abilities to stay healthy?
In case you missed it, you can watch a rerun on John Oliver’s HBO show this past Sunday. Oliver took a summer break from discussing geo political issues and just went through the past few weeks’ events at the Flushing Follies.
Take a bit of your own advice about small sample size. Lol
Plus another prospect.Why suprised? GM of Jays admitted this on WFAN that any deals coming to yankees will have to pay premium price.
No GM would say that anywhere in the media.
What about McKinney and ? For Happ?
McKinney alone is plenty. Happ is a 35 year old rental who’s pitching poorly. Let the Cubs have him.
Obviously wasn’t going to happen but why not try? I bet Cashman wasn’t expecting to get Torres for 2 months of Chapman yet he pulled that off
acevedo and loaisiga for happ
Massive overpayment. Happ is a rental.
From a neutral observer I think that is a strong fair offer though I would be hesitant to make that big splash that San Diego is looking to do on Thor. I worry the DL stints will come and go throughout the next three years.
Yankees are going to get knocked out by the As in the wild card round. The only question is, will britton make an appearance?
Why on Earth would the Yankees waste decent prospects on Hamels? It makes zero sense
I wouldn’t think the prospects would have to be too decent when you take both salary and performance into account
Texas will eat salary so will cost Yankees probably like Britton Deal. Abreu, Adams, Cabrera.
Hamels sucks though. There is a zero percent chance he’ll bring back a prospect of that caliber
Where do you people come up with these asinine deals? Just pulling names out of a hat, I guess.
Hey, Milwaukee… Neil Walker for Corbin Burnes and Brett Phillips? Way too much for Walker? Absolutely! But then again, why the hell not if we’re not going to be grounded in reality.
No, the Yankees are not doing Abreu, Adams, and Cabrera for Hamels. Hamels has minimal value, even if Texas eats salary.
Tmcca what are you smoking
Honestly Hamels will probably be a reliable veteran arm once someone gets him away from Brocail. Dude has no clue how to do his job.
things starting to pick up finally. hopefully the trades keep coming!
Padres see themselves contending by when?
yanks really want happ but jays continue to ask for too much,
so yanks are feigning interest in hammels to press jays
I hope!!!!
Happ going to Mariners unless Yankees give Sheffield or Frazier that’s what I heard. Yankees should give Frazier straight up, yes a lot to give up but maybe the Jays want more than that. Yankees need a starter and GM of Jays really don’t like the Yankees. He admitted it on WFAN that Yankees will have to pay premium price for any trade coming from our way. However, if Yankees give Frazier or Sheffield and another prospect Jays would be hard to not accept. Tell me who needs the trade more Jays or Yankees? Jays have the upper hand period. I think Seattle will get Happ for 3 prospects than Yankees really in trouble.
Yeah, that’s never going to happen. Frazier/Sheffield for a 35-year-old rental. Keep dreaming.
Toronto are not getting anywhere near what they expect for Happ.
Hey TMCCA-besides your warped suggestions about who has the upper hand you need some online help with sentence structure so that you don’t have fragments running into each other.
Frazier or Sheffield for two months of Happ? GM’s that make offers like that will quickly lose credibility among their peers.
jays were asking for a top3/top100 prospect
certainly can not believe they will get it for 2
months of happ
Happ not going to Yankees that is a fact unless they give up Sheffield or Frazier period. Jays firm on this. If your Cashman what you do? Hamels? Lol
Cashman will call up Sheffield rather than trade him for Happ.
You make it sound like Happ is a #1 ace pitcher lmao. Happ will be dealt for mid tier guys. Keep dreaming on Frazier or Sheffield
agreed, he is saving shefield
didn’t call him up for a start or two
this week cause he didn’t want to risk losing
value if he needed him in a major trade
Jays asking that from Yankees not saying Yankees will do it lol. Jays GM said if they dont include Sheffield or Frazier than he isnt going to Yankees. Hamels has a no trade claus to Yankees so that may get interesting.
Your smoking he isn’t ready.
This deadline he is #1 pitcher just saying. Degrom not available unless you give at least 4 very good prospects.
Can you stop posting, dude? You’re kind of horrible at it.
No he didn’t. Post it multiple times doesn’t make it true.
Degrom would cost the Yankees at least Frazier/Sheffield/Adams/Andujar period. You think Yankees would give that much? Doubt it.
mets do not have a general manager
so it doesn’t matter at this time
Hey just-TMCCA is a ringer for the UTR general Manager of the Mets. Look at his delusion; he has consumed the same juice as the Three Stooges and Abbott & Costello.
No reason to trade him to the Yankees when a better return can come from the Padres – and Mets won’t have to deal with Degrom as Yankee.
But I wouldn’t trade Degrom. Sign to extension. Trade Syndergaard to Padres which, at the least should require a return that includes Tatis Jr or Mejia plus several others.
Ha,nah. Thor hasn’t proven he’s durable. Those guys are “untouchable”.
deGrom WILL NOT sign an extension.
What part of this won’t you accept; top free agents want top money AND the BEST chance to WIN.
This year deGrom will only have single digits’ wins for an otherwise Acy Young season.
He won’t take the money and willingly stay in the Flushing prison.
Happ traded to Mariners supposedly for 3 prospects coming up.
I would be deeply concerned if I were a Blue Jays fan and question the competency of your baseball front office. The simple fact that they asked for either Clint Frazier or Justus Sheffield is beyond stupid and undermines the whole process of retooling the team. And no, the typical excuse of “well, you’ve got to try” doesn’t apply here. This folks, is a baseball front office that has an extremely poor understanding of their assets.
A real solid assessment for Happ in a trade are a couple of prospects in the 15-20 range. Maybe a Cody Carroll and Josh Rogers package that went to the Orioles. Maybe McKinney and Trevor Stephan.
Again, I’d be deeply concerned if I were a Jays fan right now. That front office is not thinking right. Lol. Sheffield. Lol. Lol. Lol.
Maybe Hamels + $$$ for Jonathan Loaisiga and Deivi Garcia?
Nope. Hamels + $$ for two signed Judge bats and a bucket of BP balls from Judge and Stanton. Does Hamels have any value at all?
The Padres have their Syndergaard, Fulmer, Archer. His name is Chris Paddack with 6+ yrs of control. The way he’s blowing through AA, he should,have a real shot for the 2019 rotation. Keep those premium prospects and move along AJ,. There are plenty more problems to resolve than selling off what you built for fragile pipe dreams who won’t even be around long enough for a playoff run.
Please tell me you learned something for the 2015 disaster.
Dude is killing it. Him and Logan Allen are gonna be big time surprises. 1.19 era since his promotion to AA.
I want to think (or hope) that Preller knows this and that this is more Ron Fowler getting on his case once again that the rebuild is taking too long and so something needs to be done to help get more fans’ butts in the seats at a quicker rate ( while also bringing him a better bottom line in the process).
I haven’t seen J.A. Happ pitch in the last couple seasons, can someone tell me why the Blue Jays have a high asking price for him? When I see his stats I picture a back end starter, did he have a rough start to the season and then heat up as the season progressed?
He’s had like three bad starts in his past six. Before this stretch he had an ERA in the 3.50’s and was pitching like the pitchers hes been for the past few seasons. It’s been a long time since Happ was a backend starter
Too bad Tate got traded to the Orioles, it would have been funny to see him traded for Hamels.