Some San Francisco-heavy rumblings from Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe:
- Giants catcher Buster Posey drew trade interest from the Braves prior to the July 31 non-waiver deadline, Cafardo reports. Moreover, “there was talk” Boston was interested in Posey, but a team source shot down that, Cafardo adds. Regardless, it’s no surprise the Giants didn’t trade Posey, a franchise institution who remains a high-end catcher at the age of 31. It was revealed this week, however, that Posey will undergo season-ending hip surgery – a procedure which could also prevent him from being ready to start next year on time. The 2019 campaign will be the third-to-last guaranteed season of the nine-year, $167MM extension Posey signed in 2013.
- Like Posey, Giants ace Madison Bumgarner isn’t someone who has been seen as a realistic trade candidate to this point. But that didn’t stop the Yankees from being “in the hunt” for Bumgarner around the deadline, per Cafardo, who notes that “the price was too high” for the Bombers’ liking. Although San Francisco hasn’t been willing to part with Bumgarner, its control over the 29-year-old is running out. As of now, he’s slated to rake in a $12MM club option in 2019 and then reach the open market during the ensuing offseason.
- The Orioles won’t trade center fielder Adam Jones this month, according to Cafardo, who writes that the 33-year-old “was open to going elsewhere.” Jones’ apparent willingness to leave Baltimore runs counter to various reports from last month, when he would not waive his 10-and-5 rights to join a contender for the stretch run. Now, having cleared revocable waivers this month, Jones is eligible to be traded anywhere, but it appears the longtime Oriole will end the season with them. After that, he’s scheduled to reach free agency.
Price was “too high” is not the same as NFS (Not for sale) keep trying, maybe they’ll cave Lol
Time to rebuild giants
Give it up
I know it hurts for giants fan
Now the giants team is a mess
It has been time to rebuild the Giants for at least two seasons but they just don’t agree. They wasted more money and got older this past spring and some fans actually THOUGHT they might contend despite the fact that many indicators thought they’d have to fight to finish at .500.
The Giants, if healthy would have been serious contenders this year. Not at one point in the season did they have there full squad. Bum isn’t going anywhere and neither is Posey. This club has way to much money to break down and go for a rebuild. Add a Harper/Machado and get this team healthy and they can and will contend. Dodgers are the same way. No need to rebuild if you have the cash to buy a build. Make sense?
What dreamland are you living in? The Giants don’t have the horses to contend in their division. The injury excuse is BS and you know it. They have a poorly constructed roster, stuck with bad contracts AND a bottom feeder farm. HTF you figure the will CONTEND?
that’s sounds like the phillies in the early part of the decade. Phil’s held too long with certain veterans and it didn’t work out
I’m not going to reply stupid like you but please do your research,the Giant had a very good division record they had many problems but the division wasn’t one it was that they were bad against bad teams and respectable again good teams,when you couple that with injuries,loosing the starters at the beginning of the year killed the Bullpen at the end of the year of course I would know that because I pay attention and have seen history,with other teams,unlike some children on this site.
“It has been time to rebuild the Giants for at least two seasons but they just don’t agree. They wasted more money and got older this past spring and some fans actually THOUGHT they might contend despite the fact that many indicators thought they’d have to fight to finish at .500”
I felt like you were talking about the Jays.
We feel your pain
What dreamland am I living in? Bahahaha, the Giants don’t have the horses?!! Three rings tell me other wise. Bum, Jonny, Shark, with Pudge Jr, along with Longo, Posey, Belt, Crawford, Panik, Cutch? Those dudes aren’t horses? No bum, belt, panik, or Longo for three months and still put together a .500 season! Your baseball IQ is bad!
No
The biggest problem with giants the last few year is no solid foundation
Keep adding on free agent not going to help
Name a solid core from giants ???
Posey, Crawford, Belt, Bumgarner. That’s the core that won 3 WS. In case you forgot.
Everyone except the Giants’ front office thinks a rebuild is necessary.
The giants has no quality outfielders
Infielders and catcher are average the best
No pitching rotation
Bull pen unrealiable
Closure been committee since Brian Wilson
The only bright spot is Derek r and
A Hanson
Nothing even solid
Give it up
The Giants team ERA is the third best in baseball the last three months. It’s the offense that is a joke
Salty?
Yes the Giants “has” no quality outfielders. I would consider Mccutchen a quality outfielder, and I would think that Duggar and Slater have been producing fine. “No real closer since Wilson” 2012 Sergio Romo.
You joking???
Mccutchen quality players???
Hahahaha
He barely hit .250
OPS is a thing.
Duggar and Slater have been producing fine?
meh, pretty marginal so far – 1 HR each
They are in better shape than the Mets.
So are all other teams (maybe except o’s).
Brandon belt, Bumgarner, will smith, and Cash to the yanks for:
Greg bird, Justus Sheffield, Florial, and Clarke Schmidt.
No way you include Florial. Upside of Trout.
But Bumgarner is an ace, Will Smith is among the best relievers in baseball, and Brandon belt is probably the best defensive 1st baseman in the mlb. And his bat will come alive at yankees stadium
And concussion a dozen time
Can you please speak english
Upside of trout? LOLOLOL
Gobby…. Same thought when I read that. Someone is drunk on kool aid.
Not even close to enough for the giants
Giants would laugh and hang up the phone instantly
LMFAO!!!
LOL this coming from a yankee fan Bum to the Yankees starts with Torres period !
So NOW Adam Jones wants to go to a contender? Now that all his friends have been traded? Wish we could have sent him to the Phillies.
Maybe still will if another Team takes Cashner or Cobb back to Indians. Also no way those Giants make it out of NL,because Brewers would put a claim in Bumgardner.
The Padres would put in a claim first, as would every other team. I don’t think anyone was talking about him going through waivers and being traded at this point.
“the price was too high” for the Bombers’ liking.
Translation: They actually had to give up high impact talent to obtain high impact talent for once. And they couldn’t do what they always do, throw money at it.
Or maybe SF was sentimentally attached and asked for a gross overpay. Your anti-Yankee bias is showing….
I, as a Yankee fan, would argue that it would be hard for SF to put too high of a price. I mean, this guy wins championships. If the Giants asked for Florial, Sheffield, and Torres it wouldn’t have been an overpay. I wouldn’t have liked it, but it seems reasonable.
I’m not a Yankee fan but Sheffield and Torres and I’m not familiar with Florial seems like an overpay for one year of Bumgardner.
Agreed
If there’s anybody you can’t overpay for it’s bumgarner. He can quite literally single handedly win you a World Series. That’s worth every penny. I would say Torres/Andujar would be a fine start with maybe abreu or Sheffield and Florial being additional pieces. Giants could throw in a reliever like Watson to sweeten the prospect return even further as well
thing is from all reports the Giants will keep Bum along with Posey and Crawford If the Giants were going to trade Bum it would have been last month his trade value was never higher with another year at 12 milll and him only being 28 they will ink him long term over the winter. he has said then once he wants to stay in SF. And yes i agree if i could choose one pitcher to get a post season win it would be Bum
Anti yankee bias is allowed
They certainly do throw money around as if it’s confetti.
They certainly have received high end talent for basically free (see Stanton recently)
As a Jay’s fan. Having the yanks in our division. I understand the frustration.
The Jays should and could operate like the Yankees and spend spend spend. Our owners are filthy rich with their monopoly on cable and insane cell/internet fees. The competition has to “rent” the infrastructure put in place by Rogers.They basically own canada.
We could eat Tulo/Martin’s contract and be in on Machado/Harper. We have a national fan base that generates a ton of profit for a winning team, the Roger’s exec’s would still get their 7 and 8 figure bonuses
But they dont. They are still a top payroll team. But not nearly as close to the Yankees as we should be (at least we got some nice prospects coming up)
Its teams like the twins and pirates and currently Miami or the Padres I really feel for. Owners who have billions but act like it’s tough to part with a few million
So dont hate on Yankees hate. It’s always going to be a thing. Embrace it
You’re the “evil empire” for a reason
If the Yankees throw money around, and the Blue Jays aren’t close, why was the Blue Jays opening day payroll higher?
Last I checked the Yankees weren’t even in the top five after their trades to date.
I understand the hate, few teams could have absorbed the Stanton deal, but they should get some credit for reducing their payroll.
the Yankees “spend, spend, spend”!
Do you know anything about what you’re writing?
I think not!
They have a significantly lower payroll than Boston, LA, etc. and have been operating with fiscal restraint…hence some of the players that could have helped didn’t pass muster as far as payroll additions.
Lets not ignore facts and history. They didnt spend (as much) this year simply to reset the luxury tax. Had this rule not been in place i would be willing to bet they would have blown past the jays in salary this year
And im also willing to bet they at least try to add one of if not both Harper/Machado this off-season
Lets not pretend the yankees outspending everyone isnt a real thing, when 1 out of 5 or 10 years a few teams spend more
Also. Im not mad at it.
My point was i wish our team would operate this way. Its an advantage the yankees have and should use. Just like the Jays should
From all indications, they’re not willing to sell, hesitant to trade their franchise Ace. It would take an extreme overpay, shocked they even ‘listened’ to NYY offers
Giants need to stop giving out these big fat contracts to everyone. Albatross time…..
Exactly. From a (fairly insignificant) Giants fan to Brian Sabean and Bobby Evans: please please please don’t overpay for Harper.
The Giants really only have two bad contracts that they signed themselves, Melancon, who went at essentially market rate for a closer in the 16 off season, and Samardzija who should have never been signed to begin with.
They never should have taken on Longoria’s contract, that was a terrible trade.
Pence, Belt, Craw, and Posey all were going rate when they signed their contracts. Posey obviously earned his contract, Pence basically earned his in the first couple years when he was healthy. Craw continues to be one of the best defensive SS and produces on offense sometimes well, sometimes not so much. Belt has just been injury prone.
1st of all the Longoria trade was a GREAT move Tampa payed about 40% of life of the contract the Giants only paying about 9 mill per year for the next 4 years plus they dumped another bad deal in span in the trade they wont do better. 2nd there are a few other bad contracts you, there were a few other bad contract you forgot CUETO for 1 he is owed 28 next year and 24 the following year he wont even pitch till the all star break. Belt was a awful deal id trade him for anything they can get just to dump the contract. the only good thing Bobby Evans has done as GM is ink crawford long term
If there was anywhere that Buster Posey could be moved to and the fan base not kill the Giants front office it would be Atlanta with it being his hometown and the team being young and on the come up and the Giants needing a rebuild. But with that being said with his age and contracts as factors I would prefer the Braves to get Realmuto or Sally Perez.
And 1 more thing for Giant fans I know these stars are heroes to the fan base but ask Phillie fans what happens when those hero’s hang on to long it drags out the inevitable and causes a long rebuild. In those lean years it’s not like the organization is gonna cut the ticket prices
Does ATL really think Posey could be its full time C? Sure, pair him with an above-average backup like Suzuki/Flowers – but where would you put Posey‘s bat without taking Freeman out? Another case of Braves FO forgetting it is not an AL team. They are really trying to get creative not to pay the kings ransom for Realmuto.
lol i love how fans from other teams think they know whats best for your team cause they want yr players. Poseys not going anywhere he will retire a Giant and have his number retired bye the Giants
Adam Jones sticks it to the O’s again. “Now you can trade me, but when you could have made a deal to get real prospects, I wasn’t going anywhere”. One of the most self-centered players in baseball.
Agreed. He could have stayed in the area to go to the Phillies, but invoked his 10-5 rights “saying” “I earned this”…and now he wants traded, shame.
Lol the Sox have nothing to offer for Posey. That call probably went unanswered
They could give up roster players
They could have offered Benintendi.
The Giants should rebuild like Atlanta is, the huge difference is San Francisco will spend the money to also add parts….quality parts.