4:10pm: ESPN’s Buster Olney tweets that Corbin has also met with the Nationals in Washington, D.C. this week. It’s not clear if Corbin has met with any other clubs on what looks to be a tour of some east-coast contenders with interest in the lefty. Like the Phillies and Yankees, the Nats have some obvious needs in the rotation. At present, the Nats have Max Scherzer, Stephen Strasburg and Tanner Roark are the top three options on the team’s depth chart, with young hurlers Joe Ross (returning from Tommy John surgery) and Erick Fedde among the options for the final two rotation spots.
Nov. 28, 3:25pm: Following yesterday’s meeting with the Phillies, Corbin is headed to New York to meet with Yankees officials, reports Joel Sherman of the New York Post (via Twitter). There’s no meeting set between Corbin and the Mets while his camp is in New York, Sherman adds.
A meeting between the Yankees and Corbin was all but a foregone conclusion. The Yanks are known to be eyeing high-end rotation help even after acquiring James Paxton, and Corbin stands out as the best starter on the market. Beyond that, the two sides have been linked for the better part of a year; reports indicated that the Yankees had interest in acquiring Corbin last year and last offseason, and he’s gone on record to indicate that he grew up a Yankee fan. None of that makes Corbin to the Bronx a fait accompli, but it’d certainly be a surprise if the Yanks weren’t firmly in the mix for Corbin until the very end.
Nov. 27: The Phillies, expected to be one of the most active teams in free agency, are meeting with left-hander Patrick Corbin at Citizens Bank Park in Philadelphia today, tweets Jim Salisbury of NBC Sports Philadelphia. Corbin is “high on [the] Phillies’ wish list,” Salisbury adds, though certainly one in-person visit doesn’t indicate that there’s anything close to fruition between the two sides.
Corbin, 29, is the consensus top starter on the free-agent market after racking up 200 innings of 3.15 ERA ball with 11.1 K/9, 2.2 BB/9, 0.68 HR/9 and a 48.5 percent ground-ball rate. No qualified starter in baseball topped Corbin in terms of opponents’ chase rate (38 percent), and only Max Scherzer bested Corbin’s 15.6 percent swinging-strike rate. Fielding-independent metrics actually liked Corbin more than his ERA (2.47 FIP, 2.61 xFIP, 2.91 SIERA).
[Related: Philadelphia Phillies Offseason Outlook | Philadelphia Phillies depth chart]
As MLBTR contributor Rob Huff recently explored, the Phillies have enormous payroll flexibility this offseason — as much as nearly any team in the Majors — which should allow them to pursue multiple top-tier free agents. Majority owner John Middleton recently told USA Today’s Bob Nightengale that he has every expectation of spending aggressively this winter, playfully adding that the Phillies might “even be even a little stupid about it.”
Corbin would improve any pitching staff in baseball, and he’d give the Phillies a dynamic one-two punch atop the rotation in conjunction with emerging ace Aaron Nola. Teamed with Jake Arrieta and some combination of Nick Pivetta, Vince Velasquez, Zach Eflin, Jerad Eickhoff and Enyel De Los Santos, that top three would give the Phillies a formidable and, as importantly, deep stock of arms from which to draw as the team looks to redeem itself in the wake of a catastrophic late-season collapse. Of course, adding an arm of Corbin’s caliber would also make it a bit easier to stomach trading from that reservoir of younger arms in order to address other areas on the roster. And while MLBTR projected Corbin to top $20MM annually over a six-year term, the Phillies’ wide-open payroll slate would still leave them ample room to add him and one of the top two free agents on the market; the Phils have been prominently linked to both Bryce Harper and Manny Machado in the early stages of free agency.
Credit my man Chris Jones @LONG_DRIVE
This is the process of driving up your own price, I think it’s pretty obvious that he will be a Yankee, unless someone else decides to get stupid, who knows it may be Phillies
There are PLENTY of teams that should be interested in Corbin. The Yankees certainly appear to be the favorite, but we’ll see if they want to be the high bidder here.
I think the shoe in for Corbin becoming a Yankee is admitting to being a huge Yankees fan growing up. I think Corbin personally wants to be on the Yankees, so its not so much whether or not someone can match the Yankees bid.
That’s ridiculous. You think he’ll leave millions of dollars on the table to play for the the team he grew up rooting for? That seems unlikely. The Yankees will need to be very competitive with their offer or risk losing him to another team. It’s pretty simple.
Im not suggesting that the Yankees wont bid fairly. Im suggesting that the Yankees wont necessarily need to be the highest bidder to get Corbin. If the deals are close, say 1 million more a year to go to PHI than NYY, i can still see him picking NYY. People have left millions of dollars on the table to play for a team theyd rather play for before. I mean Kirk Cousins denied millions more from the Jets to play for the Vikings.
It’s pretty simple.
As long as they are very close, I could see the Yankees having the edge here. You initially made it sound like his desire to play for the Yankees outweighed his desire to get paid.
If the Yankees offer 6/100 and the Phillies offer like 5/25, then yeah, you aren’t leaving $25 million at one less year on the table, if the offers are similar enough then Corbin or any player has the luxury of choosing where they want to play.
Boras has made it seem as if free agency means auction to the highest bidder, but there’s many free agents who focus on the best combination of fit and money instead of one or the other. I’m sure Donaldson could’ve signed for multiple years somewhere, but he valued his relationship with AA as well as the staff and trainers he was familiar with combined with something monetary that made sense for him.
My initial comment was under the assumption that Corbin will be paid well no matter where he signs
He will get paid plenty.
If I was a player and two teams, Phils & Yanks, wanted me, I’d leave $5 million on the table to play for the Yankees. That’s a no brainier.
I wouldnt turndown an extra 5m to go to a team where the fans boo you when you arent playing your best. If the yankees offer more then it shouldnt matter but who knows
players union wont allow for him to take less money, especially if hes the first big name arm to sign.
Players union has absolutely no say in FA contract decisions. Players have given hometown discounts all the time.
Philly fans are the worst in sports. Puking on a lil girl on purpose, they’re on Santa’s naughty list, and the city literally has to grease utility poles before big games. The examples on endless.
It may not be very close—whatever that means.
Some players consider how close the team is to winning, sentimentality and proximity to where they want to live.
Some players who sign “pretty close” deals do so because they are simply taking the money and running. Think Todd Fraizer and Jay Bruce.
Your sentence was worded awkwardly …”I wouldn’t turn down an extra 5m to go to a team where the fans boo you when you aren’t playing your best”. But either way, that both Philly and NY…and probably Boston too who might be a sleeper for Corbin since Sale and Porcello can walk next year and Price and Rodriguez are the only definite SP for 2020..
Where in the world did you get “players union won’t allow him to take less money” from? He can do whatever he wants as a FA, and that’s all there is to it.
Great point. Yes, this would be so satisfying.
No the stankees will spend another $700 mil on contracts like they did in 09. All to win 1 W/S, but some dimwits feel they did a better job than the Cubs/Houston/KC. Spend boys.
that’s total BS. The Union can’t tell a player he has to go to the highest bidder. What are you smoking?
WhiteyFordSr replied I don’t think Boston will be bringing in any big contracts they’re already over the luxury tax.
WhiteyFordSr replied the “stankees” as you call them, haven’t had a losing record since 1992, let alone finish last like your trio of teams did for years and years. As an example if Houston, Chicago, or Kansas City won the world series for the next 20 years straight the “stankees” would still have more world series titles.
Not so ridiculous, as the comparison to Kirk Cousins not wanting to play for the Jets is true and has merit.
Say for example he doesn’t get a no trade clause, and he goes to Philly. Say Philly’s plans for being competitive blow up in their face this season going into next and Corbin is put on the block to the highest bidder during a pennant race….he loses quiet a bit of control over his own path….certainly motivation to steer his way to a team he can be comfortable with and still make an immense amount of money to boot.
Don’t know metfan4ever where you get your stats but their ridiculous….the Yankees didn’t spend $700 Million in 09…..
And, if you look at the Red Sox, who have spent money where they thought it would give them the best chance to win, regardless of the tx it would cost them,,,,,there is merit in saying that “its only money” if you win it all
I don’t think Brian Cashman is going to sign him to the deal he wants making him most likely to sign with Philadelphia
Ray,
All these free agents go to many teams for meetings to see who gives the better deal and you know that. we all do and some play hard to get, so DON’T fret!!
Thanks for that nugget of knowledge Queen Obvious.
Lol, wait a second, are you saying free agents, visit multiple teams with interest, and then sign with one that offers the best deal for them?
Wow, so that’s how free agency works?
Priceless
Just like last year when Hosmer was a lock to sign with NYY. No free agent is ever a lock until they sign on the dotted line and pass their physical.
BS, Nobody ever said Hosmer was a lock to sign with the Yankees
Lol some Yankee fans call Harper a lock even though it makes no sense
It was the RED SOX that were a lock to sign Hosmer last year. Except Hosmer is awful. Glad they avoided that terrible contract.
It’s a lock that somebody is gonna say something stupid on here. Take THAT to the bank.
c1234, the Yankees weren’t in on most of last year’s mediocre FA. This is the first time ever heard Hosmer linked to NYY pre/post signing.
We have reason to believe Harper, Machado 🙂
Yankees not going to get Parper or Machado!!!
Harper makes perfect sense. Yanks can create an opening in LF and they need a left handed power bat since switch-hitting Hicks is the only lock to start next year.
I wonder why EVERYONE seems to think the Yanks are satisfied with Gardner, Frazier or Ells as our starting candidates going into 2019. Also, to think that Harper moving to 1B is more logical than him moving over to LF.
WhiteyFordSr replied The Yankees never made Hosmer an offer. They were concerned with getting under the luxury tax threshold.
If he wants a chance to consistently win, it will be NY. Way the game is set up now where most teams are good for a couple of years, then the pits for several more? Stars are better off sticking with powerhouse teams that both spend and have a no nonsense approach and the NYY are one of those very few clubs.
Exactly!
Plus you can’t play on a bigger stage…NYC.
I’m a Yankees fan, but let’s be real… if he went to PHI and joined up with Nola and Arrietta, in the NL where the pitcher hit’s, he would have a chance to win a lot games for several years.
I can see the Yankees landing Corbin and Machado. Cashman publicly set the tone as to how Machado would have to act, hustle and play to be a Yankee. So….he set the stage for negotiations with Machado up front and nationally.
Cashman’s tone is irrelevant once the ink dries. Machado can start walking to first during the his very first game in pinstripes and Cashman won’t be able to do much about it.
He would have a chance to win a lot of games as He would be pitching against the punchless Mets a lot.
However he wants to WIN and so it is doubtful that easy wins alone is a
Reason to sign.
That might be true but the Braves and Nationals aren’t sitting around twiddling their thumbs. The East can be a lot different next year.
Spend 55, spend, over $700 mil in 2009, look it up. for all of 1 w/s. And you said the stankees don’t BUY W/S. You also said you don’t hate the Mets BUT YOU DO, And you said the same thing when the STANKEES GOT K KING-STANTON. The stankees are only cheep with their hitting coach & other worker who travel with them. 47 shares were given out when 66 could have been. Do they still have Brinks Guards showing people to their seats
WhiteyFordSr replied the first time Machado walked to first base without being injured, the Yankees would put him on the suspended without pay restricted list. I’m sure the league and commissioners office would support the team. Then it would be between the player’s union and the team. All contacts have clauses about actions detrimental to the game. Cashman could and would do something.
Hal Steinbrenner is trying to buy his TV rights back right now. So last thing on his mind is “getting stupid”.
If Corbin and his agent are smart, they’re gonna wait out the YES Network saga, because the Yankees won’t spend until that’s resolved. They would be fools to: any spending will just drive up the price on YES.
Plus, Cashman isn’t the “get stupid” type either. He’ll take a bargain over a bidding war. So if there’s a bidding war on Corbin, they’ll probably just go for Morton or Kikuchi. Morton is probably taking a one year deal, as for Kikuchi, he’s a long shot bet who’s cheap enough that he can be moved if he doesn’t perform.
Then there’s Bumgarner. He’s on the market.
Dude you really have no idea how TV contract work nor how Fortune 400 organizations move. If you don’t think the Yanks have factored in major expenditures for the next 4 years then you’re joking. Buying back YES has no bearing on what they do in free agency. If Harper, Machado or Corbin don’t sign with the Yanks it’ll most likely be because the Yanks didn’t feel they were enough of a need (imo Machado), or the bidding got out of hand (Machado or Corbin). It’s not like they are paying out in one lump sum.
Corbin? This guy has the same upside that Jordan Zimmerman had when he signed that fabulous deal with the Tigers. Some bad contracts end dynasties before they even get off the ground. Go ahead Yankees bid against yourself, bring in this Blue Spruce, and kill the baby bombers before we have to deal with another annoying rerun of the empire strikes back.
Ok 2006. Mommy is calling. Time to
Brush your teeth and change your pampers
2004, 2007, 2013, 2018, now tell us who has more turn of the century WS wins. The Evil Empire bids high just to steal a player from the RS, n now they stuck with Ellsbury!
The Yankees also chose Ellsbury over Cano. And now they are trying to trade Ellsbury for Cano. Cashman really messed that one up.
and your depends BUT it was 2009. Didn’t the stankees give A-Roid $25 mil to stay away from the team last year. And because I know you can’t remember-They did. Really, they need to get JT, Sanchez is just bad as a catcher. He maybe your 1B but leading MLB in passballs in only 76 games as a Catcher. What pitcher wants to pitch to him.
Wow you should be careful because everyone knows you bought that 2018 title. The Sox are the evil empire. Burying bad contracts and doubling down.
WhiteyFordSr replied maybe Cashman was fed up with the steroid use. The Yankees are getting most of Ellsbury’s contact paid through insurance.
Not entirely true. Cashman wanted to do the rebuild that we have now back then but it was not his call.
Yup. They are right where the Yankees were for years at the end of expensive/horrible contracts for Teixeira, Sabathia and Arod. The only difference is the Red Sox just won a title while the Yankees were middling for years with no young talent.
Who cares if insurance is paying the contract? That only helps put more money in the Steinbrenners pockets. Wouldn’t you rather have a productive player instead?
Really? Who is above Cashman’s head that is making the calls? That’s ridiculous.
Your acting as if “stats” are indicative of “upside”. Two players can have similar numbers at a similar age but it doesn’t mean their upsides are the same or predetermined by performance numbers.
2006 in your infinite knowledge… what should they do? Call it a day and head into 2019 with sonny grey at 5??
They both like one another. However, if someone offers him 30m more…
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Proudly guessed Yankees, and although Phillies are worthy adversaries, I stick with my FA contest prediction for Corbin. “Looks like a good all out bidding war.”
Nobody cares.
Wow board’s becoming more and more nasty.. (?)
1) You cared enough to reply (cliché but true)
2) think pple care if theres bidding war for Corbin
3) Mets’ fans wouldn’t cuz they always out..right?
4) You tell me. Unlike ur cold trolling ***, prob suffering ****, I care how Mets fans feel.
Btw, how was my grammar, spelling, and/or punctuation? Cuz supposed be *because, ur *your
This has nothing to do with any of those things, none of which I particularly care about. What I meant is that nobody cares about how you do in that stupid contest. It means nothing.
Don’t be rude to him. He puts his opinion on a sports chat board. That’s what the comment section is for on any site like this. It’s not as if he is putting irrelevant info on here. It’s usually what the post is about.
And I gave my opinion on the same chat board. In my opinion, nobody cares how anybody else guesses about signings in some stupid contest. All that matters is with whom they actually sign. Stating my opinion as such is not being rude. Making personal comments and/or calling people names is being rude.
But the thing about opinions is that they’re like a$$holes. Everybody has one.
Put your Jealousy away stu, nobody cares that the Wilkins have ruined our Mets
And most stink.
Haha, you tell em X
Nah, being rude is exactly what that was.
At least stand by your dxckishness if you’re going to drop snarky comments on people.
Why would you care about how Mets fans feel? If they cared enough about themselves they would have bolted for a worthy team a long time ago.
Wilpon…the Wilpons have ruined is Mets.
I loved the humorous part of this story….
“There’s no meeting set between Corbin and the Mets while his camp is in New York, Sherman adds.”
Lol at someone thinking that saying “Nobody cares” when someone shares something isn’t rude under basically any context
They need to limit this guy’s number of posts a week
They need to limit trolls/harassers. Wish they have Zero tolerance for posts like these. Thank you contributed nothing but off-topic attacks.
You always play right into their hands, xaby. I mean, you’ve had basically this same exact exchange with people numerous times. You could almost copy/paste your responses between them. Just do your thing, make your posts, and move on.
For the record, I generally enjoy your actually baseball-related posts 🙂
Besides bragging rights, they give away cash prizes. I don’t remember the exact amounts but guessing $500 for first place.
Using inflation calculator, $100 in 1973 equals almost $600 in today’s play money. That $100 when I was 17 was a big sum of money. Two 35 hour weeks at a McDonalds flipping burgers.
X,
ME too on your post, but they the writers think they will lose their
posters if the put up warnings, so all the
Terms of Policy get undermined so we
have to be like the bashers I. order to defend
ourselves. Very Sad
It is like the Dean Martin
roast. Every single article.
C’mon guys, holiday spirit
be nice !!
xabial – I care lol
xabial just rubs people off the wrong way… I don’t know if it’s his egocentric way of communicating his opinion, or the way he uses quotation marks for no reason, or just his plain laughable ideas. But I almost feel bad for him. I mean, all of our brilliant ideas are stupid to others at some point.
It’s impossible to rub someone off the wrong way. I’ve never complained when xabial rubbed me off on these boards. His baseball is good.
Xabial rubs you off? Wtf X you started rubbing him off and you didn’t tell us?
Looks like I’m about to be 0-3
Don’t worry….good chance the Dodgers will be 0-3 this time next year too.
Like many, I’m sure, I had Corbin going to the Yankees.
I started filling out that contest thing. I stopped after probably ten names and didn’t complete it. Apparently you had to complete all the players names to be able to submit it. Ive followed the game since ’65 & starting to familiarize myself with some of the new metrics.
I don’t follow it to the point of trying to know every player …but I can understand the passion. I kinda think/thought Corbin might end up in NY. The Paxton acquisition blindsided me.
Were you busy getting your VCR cleaned?
Nobody cares, ScottRC
Stu Baron = Salty Mets’ fan triggered when he hears possibility of Yankees signing Corbin.
I don’t think he gives a good GD about the contest.
As long as you don’t get the FBI knocking at your door about stuff posted on the internet, your doing all right.
Just want to clarify, Stu. Does anyone care?
Scotty,
He don’t even know where is going, it ain’t over till it’s over
Lol….I just NOW at 7pm east coast time got the cleaning vhs player post!
I should…the thing looks used & abused.
Nobody cares, srechter. Nobody!
xabial, when did I say that I’m a Mets fan or that I am anti-Yankees? You don’t know me at all.
Vinegar and water makes the best cleaning solution.
Stu needs an enema. Cleanses the soul.
Probably works good on a summers evening too
Xabial, don’t rub off Stu anymore. Mets fans have good baseball but they only rub each other off good. Everyone else only stroke their fire. Corbin too, apparently.
I care.
Stu, we all know you! We all have that one Stu we grew up with and they are all like you Stu!
Hope hes more Leake/Kennedy and less Cueto/Hamels with the contract
Neither Leake nor Kennedy had TOR upside when signed. It’s gonna hurt worse than that. I’m not saying it’s going to be a good deal but you’re not gonna get Corbin for 5/70-80. It’s going to be a 100MM deal and it may not turn out so well. Not that the Ian Kennedy or Mike Leake deal worked out swimmingly either. Leake has been about what you could expect though.
100 mil for Corbin is probable but also probably 75 million more than he’ll prove to be worth. Prediction Yankees get him and he delivers 0.4 WAR over the life of the contract.
I’ve heard the Phillies have money…..
And I’ve heard they plan on spending it recklessly.
Stupidly, not recklessly. There is a definitional (made up word) difference.
Ok salary/year estimations that get him to spurn the Yanks.
He’s heading there Cereal. Just a slow waltz getting there IMO.
Thanks Jon, longtime since we last communicated, I’m pretty confident in that.
5/$125 million and he spurns the Yankees is my prediction. Just too much guaranteed years/cash.
I reluctantly have to agree. That would certainly be the stupid money the Phillies ownership decides to spend. This guy shouldn’t get more than 20 a year.
Well so much for the Yankees getting him. Normally players end up signing with the teams they go and visit.
I don’t know where he’s going to sign, but I see no info here saying he hasn’t or won’t meet with the Yankees. Stanton met with the Giants and Cardinals and not with the Yankees, but still only would waive his NTC for the Yanks.
Stanton never met with the Cards or Giants.
Yes he did. He met with both teams but still decided to uphold his NTC
No he didn’t. He never met with anyone until the Yanks came into the picture. In fact he commented he never really was approached other than to exercise his NTC.
Stevin
Giants GM Bobby Evans also acknowledged earlier today that the organization had a sit-down with Stanton, in an interview with KNBR (via John Shea of the San Francisco Chronicle, on Twitter). He also said that the teahttps://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/12/giants-expect-decision-from-giancarlo-stanton-by-end-of-week.htmlm did put the terms of a deal in place with Miami in advance
Sorry, I botched the post and link….I was rushed…. link https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/12/giants-expect-decision-from-giancarlo-stanton-by-end-of-week.html
Quote from link…. “Giants GM Bobby Evans also acknowledged earlier today that the organization had a sit-down with Stanton, in an interview with KNBR (via John Shea of the San Francisco Chronicle, on Twitter). He also said that the team did put the terms of a deal in place with Miami in advance. “
As for meeting with the Cards Stanton said…“I’ve always watched them from afar,” Stanton said of the Cardinals when asked specifically about his talks with St. Louis. “We share the same Spring Training, so I’ve noticed how they go about their business. It’s winning first, culture, the fans and everything — it’s a great organization. We did have a good meeting, but I wanted to see my options [with] the teams that I initially chose.”
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/12/giancarlo-stanton-discusses-trade-to-yankees.html
Stanton never got traded to the Yankees, I guess.
Careful Adam…..Some people don’t like it when you burst their bubble
Wrong slevin he met with both the Giants and Cardinals
Don’t blame Slevin…
He got his information from a bandwagon fan that lately has an identity crisis.
I’m not blaming him. I understand the jealousy since I’m a Met fan, but it’s stupid. Why should we as fans blame the teams that invest in their products? Especially when we know that so many others just pocket the money. That’s just being lazy. It accomplished nothing. Id rather hold the responsible owners accountable. Which is why I criticize the Wilpons every time. The Yankees aren’t the reason that the wilpons are cheap and stupid. The wilpons are the reason they are cheap and stupid.
Got my popcicles mixed with my polar pops.
Not to be confused with those Yankee foot longs.
I think what you mean is you were wrong and were arrogant about it. Don’t worry, it happens to everyone, I do it all the time. Got Moncada and Castillo mixed up once.
Him meeting with the Phillies doesnt make his decision a forgone conclusion. Chances are he will meet with the Yankees and a couple other teams too. Its due diligence on his part
Yes, he’d be foolish not to meet with any team he is even remotely interested in before making a decision. This will likely decide his way of life for the next half decade, so he would be wise to really look into every team, meet ownership, the coaching staff, and even the neighborhood he might be living in.
I’ve met with prospective employers in Chicago, San Diego, Boston, even the UK, during my time looking for work. I wanted to see what kind of workplace culture the companies had and visit the cities I would potentially be spending years living and working in before making a decision that would affect every aspect of my life.
yes please
Esteban Florial and Clint Frazier for Corbin! Get it done, Cashman!
I dont even know how to respond to this…
Esteban Florial could end up being another Yoan Moncada.
Always trade for decent pitching in my world.
I’ll do it, he’s a free agent
SWEET! Give Cash a call, you and he can get the deal done!
Lolol
You did, you really did…
He’s not a trade chip, he’s a free agent…
Oops!!
Then turn on the Yankees money shower.
I think if Cashman gives Corbin Clint Frazier and Florial, he’ll play for New York.
Yes Cashman please trade those 2 to the DBacks so then you can sign Corbin to a free agent contract for 6 years at over 20 mil a year!
He’s a free agent.
How does that change things? Frazier and Florial are good compensation.
Compensation for who?
Everyone here saying he’s going to the Phillies: just stop, it’s the first team he’s visiting and I’m sure he’s gonna visit a few more since he’s the best pitcher on the market. Relax if you predicted him to the Yankees, I’ve heard they won’t be outbid for him so I’m still happy with my prediction…
Last big money free agent the Yankees wouldn’t be “outbid” on??
I can only think of Chapman, Gardner or Ellsbury…
Its been years since the Yankees handed out big money to a free agent…Got to go back to 2013…its about to be 2019
Tanaka and that was 2015
Wierd…. somehow he pitched for the Yankees in 2014, but was signed in 2015 you say??????????
I just went to google and typed 3 words, look what I found. Amazing!
“On January 22, 2014, Tanaka signed a seven-year contract worth $155 million with the Yankees…” So they courted him in the winter of 2013
So yeah, why use this site to pretend to know stuff but not google simple facts??????????
The Chapman signing wasnt really that long ago.
Since 2014 there really haven’t been too many big free agents they went hard after. The last big FA that they really courted hard who spurned them was Cliff Lee.
And the team that signed Cliff Lee was……
and that means Corbin will definitely sign with the same team because….
Juiceman, Nothing like that was ever said about Gardner lol
You’re right!! and that proves my point even more…
and makes your original statement sound like nonsense, so thanks
The Yankees have not in the past 6 years had a free agent they “wouldn’t be outbid for” as you “heard” about Corbin.
corbin is still 29
If they miss on Harper and Machado then getting Corbin along with a guy like Pollock at a similar total price point could very well be money better spent.
They shouldnt “miss” on Harper on Machado they should straight up pass on them and go straight for Corbin. Harper and Machado might produce more WAR than Corbin but Corbin fills a much bigger need.
Its all about the marginal improvement of the player in comparison to the players you already have. Yankees need pitching, not much more offense (even with an injured Didi) is needed.
Begamin….I believe coldbeer was referring to the Phillies missing out not the Yankees
Oh true. Sometimes im like in my own Yankee world
He won’t regress in fact I fully expect him to get better. last Yankee right handed rookie to put up those extra base numbers was DiMaggio. He’s poor defensively but that kid can hit. I’d kill to have him on my Mets. He’s a lock for a future .300/35 HRs/100 RBI. As a Met fan we know how hard finding a quality 3b is….took us 45 years to find one in David Wright and he Never had that kind of season….So yeah I’d kill for andujar
The fck do you mean David Wright never had that kind of season? He Did that multiple times and even chipped in 30 steals one year while playing GG defense. Andujar is no D Wright.
Calm down. Bill likes DWright. What he is saying is that the Mets are a 56 year old franchise who had DWright and ? On their 3B Mt. Rushmore and that it’s hard to get a franchise 3B. Obviously Wright mans Third on the Mets all time team…
It’s okay. This is the case with most Yankee fans
Corbin would be a nice get for the Phillies.
The earlier rumor of Goldy was just ridiculous. Although very Klentak like. Make a mistake on Carlos Santana, then double down with another 1st baseman. Unless he plans on moving Hoskins in a major trade.
I hope they don’t move Hoskins. I like him a lot, he still has a lot of control left and even if you get Goldy and lock him up he’s still gonna cost a lot more, and he’s a lot older. I love Goldschmidt and think he’s a great player, but I don’t wanna give up Hoskins to get him. And Hoskins needs to be a 1B.
@TRexx
With the control left on Hoskins, he will never bring back more in a trade. Onward with the perpetual rebuild!
Klentak is a meathead, which is what scares me about this.
Most of us Mets fans are salty about the Yankees, we have reason. They have great ownership and a quality GM. We are stuck with the clueless Wilpons. Most fans can’t understand what that’s like. Back in 73 when Steinbrenner bought them The Mets owned this town, 2 world Series in 4 years. And CBS couldn’t give away the Yankees franchise. So we do have reason. I’m just a bit more rational than Stu. I put the blame where it belongs
I think the Phillies and Yanks will be in on the top 3 free agents, Harper, Machado, and Corbin. They both are looking for a major upgrade..
As others have said, this is just Corbin driving up his price and doing his due diligence. even as a Met fan I predicted Corbin and Machado to the Yankees. It’s the smart move to challenge the Red Sox it’s what those 2 teams do. It’s too bad other teams don’t do that. other teams have have the money having each gotten $100M from the BAM sale and new streaming deal. But those owners just pocket that money
A GM like Cashman has shown he is smart, he is not going to overpay too much for Corbin. I don’t see him going over 5/110 for him. If the Phillies offer him more than that, they might get him. Happ was undefeated for the Yanks last year when they got him, he is a good second option right now. He also is proven in the East, and is less of a commitment. You can make a case he is the best option.
Everyone goes on about machado and harper and this is the guy they need. Outside of nola and to a lesser degree arrieta they need one more solid arm. Corbin slotted in behind nola and ahead of arrieta makes them formidable in a playoff series. They really shouldnt have signed satana for the salary they did because they could have had all 3 of the top free agents.
Thinking about it now what about goldy and greinke with some dollars to phillies for satana and hoskins? Then phillies can go grab harper and play him where hoskins was playing horribly? Just a thought
I like you imindless. Very true on your first post on pitching!!!!
Not on Hoskins though. That is the only place I have to differ. Pick a package of other players (up to 5 for those two), but Nola and Hoskins cannot be on the table this offseason if we want to keep up in the NL East.
Makes sense i just see it as leverage because he is a poor defender in outfield and they can move satanas bad deal. Plus goldy is better than hoskins and gives them a legit middle of the order bat. Plus if moving satana helps another area of need ie the outfield id do it lol!
I doubt Kapler would hit Goldy in the middle of the order. He rarely uses Hoskins there despite his splits between hitting 2nd and 4th (where he should be). Same with Santana, his splits hitting 5th (where he should be) and 4th, where Kapler places him are saddening and maddening.
imindless – Hoskins is a terrible Left Fielder because he belongs at 1B. I say move Santana – the Twins would be a great spot for him. The Phillies do not need a lot in return if they take most of the salary AND the AL Central is winnable. Santana can DH a little… Nothing against the Indians, but if the Twins just try a little and the Indians sell, the Twins have a shot. Not past the ALDS, but to win the AL Central.
I think a trade “like” that is more plausible or smarter than a Hoskins trade. Hoskins and Nola are the future if we want to win. Just my opinion, and that, plus $2.50 will buy you a cup of coffee.
This would be a bad signing.
Dallas Keuchel + Machado/Harper would do the trick. Trading for Greinke is also the route I’d go instead of Corbin.
Corbin would be wise to sign in PHI. He’s not keeping that 3.15 ERA in the AL.
This.^
He’s a prime candidate to flop moving to the AL and no one seems to mention it. Add the bright lights of Yankee stadium and we’ll see if guy is Darvish 2.0
Darvish started in the AL tho?
The phiLOLies are gonna be used by all major free agents to get better deals elsewhere, thanks to their stupid comments, literally. At the end of the hot stove season, Machado and them are gonna be the only ones without a dance partner and will “settle” for each other. They will sign and overpay for other free agents like Charlie Morton or Gio Gonzalez or Markakis or Adam Jones.
Says the braves fan
I’d think Zimmermann’s 5/110 contract is a good comp for Corbin. While Zimmermann was more consistent, Corbin has more talent. Same age and market value imo
I think if they can add him and Machado and some good bullpen help, they take that division. The Braves and Phillies are the best built teams in that division
While adding Corbin would be a boost to the Phils, thats money that could be spent on a *horrible* offense from last year.
Check out the Baseball Reference graphic “MLB Wins above Avg by Position” to see what I mean.
For SP, the Phils were FIRST last year with 11.9 wins above avg.
For all non-pitchers, the Phils were LAST with -17.5 wins.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB/2018.shtml
He will probably be a taker with the money they will offer but you never know it could be some other team that offers more maybe even the Phillies
Yankee
So where would Corbin fall in the Yankees picking order? Does he bump CC to the pen?
I think the Yanks are looking to go to a 6 man rotation next year. Teams like the Sox put Sale on the shelf the whole month of Sept. Yanks go to a straight 6 man next year.
Wouldnt it be Severino, Corbin, Paxton, Tanaka, CC? Thats 5, why would CC get bumped to the pen? That guy they picked up off waivers should be no more than emergency depth and J. Montgomery isnt set to come back until mid season apparently so its not like he is going to be in the rotation for quite awhile. Maybe if they sign Kikuchi or make another trade for a SP on top of signing Corbin then they could run a 6 man or bump him to the pen
He will be signed by 9 pm
Sure, but not Nov 28th, 2018.
yankees are showing him around the city so they are doing the whole Reggie Jackson routine, but it didnt work with Greg Maddux when they did it for him. we’ll see I guess.
if Corbin is married I wonder if the Yankees take them to Broadway., what can they show off in philly? the liberty bell or maybe the mall outlets?
Maddux asked if it was cool to pee on teammates in the shower. He was told an emphatic no. That was the dealbreaker.
Corbin’s whole family are Yankee fans, if the money is close he’s a Yankee.. He’s from upstate NY.
You’re really bringing up the recruitment of Maddux from how long ago? You think all Philly has to offer are outlet malls and the Liberty Bell? I bet you’re a hit at parties with your wit.
I’ve lived in Philly, Brian, that’s pretty much all it has to offer. That and South Street.
Wrong. Sounds like you never left your apt when you lived here.
They showed Greg Maddux around New York city in 1992? No wonder he said no.
For anyone curious about history, here’s a great article from 1992 when Maddux spurned the Yankees. His agent, one Scott Boras is quoted as saying Maddux’s primary goal was to win a championship, and joining Smoltz, Avery, and Glavine gave him the best chance to do that.
And while he did ultimately get his ring in 1995, imagine how many rings he might have gotten if he had pitched in New York with those 90s teams?
https://www.nytimes.com/1992/12/10/sports/baseball-maddux-bolts-and-yankees-feel-jilted.html
Patrick Corbin is from Clay, NY, and I’m sure he’s already pretty familiar with New York City.
Good job Nats! Get up in there and drive that price up for the eventual buyer!
I think GM’s are too smart for that today, they all have the metrics which don’t lie on every player, Good GM’s only offer a player what he is projected to do going forward, not what he has done in the past. That’s why Mad Bum’s stock will be down. a bit.
GMs still have to bid with one another
Does it mean anything, not sure. But in past 2 seasons for Corbin.
Jeff Mathis catching: 18 GS, 108 IP, 2.33 ERA with 1.037 WHIP and 10.4 K/9.
All other catchers: 49 GS, 281 IP, 4.04 ERA with 1.308 WHIP and 9.59 K/9.
And out of nowhere come the Red Sox.
Reds?
Well, I picked Corbin to the Yankees. Let’s see if I get my first correct guess.
Don’t worry Mozeliak, you don’t need a stud, lefty starter. Keep shopping at Abercrombie and Fitch this winter.
Yankees. 2019 rotation
1 Tanaka
2 severino
3 Corbin
4 j happ
5 sabathia home / sonny gray on the road
Not an Ace in the bunch.
Well to be fair he left out Paxton.
That said, as a Yankee fan i still don’t like the rotation of Severino/Paxton/Corbin/Tanaka/Sabathia. I want a real ace, and this is why i want Cashman to empty the farm for a Corey Kluber or Jacob DeGrom. Neither is likely, but i’d like to see him make a strong offer for one of them even if it means subtracting from the major league roster.
If he makes a good offer and gets rebuffed, at least i’ll know he tried. But a patchwork rotation of #2 and #3 starters isn’t going to get them a title.
Severino is an ace despite his post-season struggles. Back to back seasons with close to 6 WAR each season? Overall, he’s been a top 5-7 pitcher the last two seasons.
When the game is low scoring, an Ace shuts down the other team. Check out how Sevy does when he doesn’t get run support.
I like the idea of Sonny Gray never pitching in Yankee Stadium again.
Why don’t we see the Cardinals President of Baseball Operations, John Mozeliak involved in talks with players such as Corbin??? Lord knows the Cardinals need an impact, high quality left handed starter and a dominant left handed reliever. (Oh…. I forgot!! He signed Brett Cecil a couple of years back for multi years and multi million dollars for that lefty reliever…..My Bad!)
Sorry I did leave out Paxton
Wonder if the BoSoxs will give him a call.