2:40pm: Corbin is evidently nearing agreement, as Morosi tweets that a signing is “imminent.” He’s said to be lining up a six-year deal, though it’s not yet clear with what team.
With the Yankees only putting five years on the table, it seems they aren’t going to get the lefty, Morosi adds on Twitter.
10:55am: There’s still no marked movement on the bidding for free agent lefty Patrick Corbin, but we’re continuing to see indications that the action is building to a crescendo. With interest spiking in the top open-market hurler, Bob Nightengale of USA Today cites multiple league sources for the proposition that Corbin is expected to meet or exceed the contract value that Yu Darvish achieved last winter (Twitter link).
That level of payday is just what MLBTR predicted in ranking Corbin as the third-best free agent on this year’s market. At the time, that seemed a rather aggressive estimation of his value. More recently, though, some have wondered whether Corbin might not drive well past the Darvish deal (six years, $126MM).
How high the bidding will go remains to be seen. Indeed, it’s not yet fully clear whether Corbin will actually top Darvish, even if he can. Nightengale suggests it’s possible that Corbin might be asked to “take a discount” to end up with the Yankees, who could be looking to get the life-long fan of the Bronx Bombers to sign for less.
The precise strategy of the Yankees isn’t entirely clear; certainly, the organization could boost its bid if Corbin demands it and there’s a bigger offer on the table. Regardless, MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand notes on Twitter that the Yankees are still locked in on Corbin, though he reminds that they’ve also engaged in secondary targets. That more or less mirrors what GM Brian Cashman stated on the record last night.
If Corbin currently sits atop the New York priority list, it seems the same is true of the Phillies, as Scott Lauber of the Philadelphia Inquirer tweets. Indeed, some “rivals speculate” that the Phillies are the favorite, Andy Martino of SNY.tv tweets, though perhaps that can be said of most any of the team’s free agent targets this winter given its ample spending capacity and clear imperative to win. As Nightengale adds on Twitter, the Phillies seem to have made it clear to Corbin that they’ll top the rest of the market to get him.
Meanwhile, Nationals president of baseball operations Mike Rizzo offered plenty of his own indications of strong interest in Corbin, as MLB.com’s Jamal Collier was among those to report. “He’s a guy that obviously we’re interested in and would fit nicely on this team,” says Rizzo, who made clear that the club still has a somewhat traditional view of the value of rotation assets. “Starting pitching is king,” Rizzo says, leaving little doubt that the Nats are prime players for Corbin and other top arms.
Heard a rumor his agent has quietly discussed numbers with the Royals.
You made that up
I heard a rumor that his agent briefly whispered figures with the Cardinals.
If the Cards want to pay big bucks for starting pitching they should try to take that Greinke contract.
The Cardinals might trade for some contracts of all-star players without a no-trade clause.
But they will NEVER get a good YOUNG free agent who isn’t like 34 years old (Beltran, Holliday, etc.) to sign a long term deal.
Its a team in desperate need of a rebuild. Same situation as Seattle.
I don’t know. I think they’re one or two studs away. If they can’t find that in the next season…then I agree…rebuild it. But imo they’re too talented to blow it up right now.
1-2 studs From being a prominent NL team I mean.
They’ve got too much young pitching to blow anything up.
Holliday was 29.
Yea, but you only got him at that age because of what happened in Oakland. He basically played poor on purpose to force a trade. You know kinda like what Fowler is doing right now.
Ok so, St.Louis is slightly more desirable location than Oakland. I’ll give you that.
I doubt St. Louis is more desirable than Oakland, but St. Louis doesn’t need to attract Harper to be a contender next year.
Corbin doesn’t qualify as a “good, young free agent”. He’s asking for Ace money after 1 good year. Might be a mistake but I wouldn’t meet his demands. Would rather trade for a guy with a history of success.
You mean like Jake Arrieta? Yea that history of success really helped him.
Arietta had 2 straight seasons of rising ERAs, fewer innings, more HRs allowed…easy to see the decline.
Name the pitchers who meets your qualifications and is available for trade?? With a better past 2-3 seasons than Arietta.
I doubt you could mention 2 names.
He never said Arrieta. You did
Um i intially brought up the name as an example…he is the one that said he foresaw his decline. And it was “easy”. He said, i didn’t.
I heard he whispered sweet nothings
You made that up
Here’s another Yu Darvish scenario waiting to happen. Very similar age, stats, and market entering free agency.
Except Corbin doesnt have nearly the injury history that Darvish had, which is Darvish’s biggest problem.
Nor his pitching ability.
Look at years and innings pitched. Not that big of a difference between Corbin/Darvish. Darvish has more playoff innings too.t.
Corbin threw his slider more last year, which helped his overall numbers a lot. We’ll see if the league makes adjustments.
Corbin average a 4+ FIP until last year. Darvish a career 3.38 FIP.
Corbin career 8.5 K/9. Darvish 11K/9.
Darvish started 29 games as rookie and then
2013- 32 games
2014- 22 games and then TJS
2015- 0 from TJS
2016- returned and made 17 starts
2017- 31 starts
Signs contract. Darvish’s injury history contains 1 TJS. Corbin= 1 TJS. They have the same injury history but Darvish took longer to return.
Uh. Yes he does, you should Google it.
The elbow of his paired with the % of sliders he throws gives me a lot of pause with him.
We can intellectualize to our hearts content.
I like Corbin a lot. He is not worth 6 or even 5 years at those prices.
Had 1-1/2 very good years. Unless he came up with a new pitch……
6 years for this guy? I don’t think it will work out any better than Darvish’s deal. Then again, long-term deals for FA pitchers rarely work out, in general.
Jon Lester, Justin Verlander, Cole Hamels, Masahiro Tanaka, CC Sabathi, Zack Greinke and Max Scherzer all seemed to work out just fine.
Don’t forget Zimmerman
Sabathia was not a great deal for the Yankees. But I’ll let that one slide. How about: Ubaldo Jimenez, John Lackey, Matt Cain, Barry Zito, Jordan Zimmerman, Homer Bailey, James Shields, Matt Garza, Johan Santana(and the list keeps going)?
How do you figure that about CC?
So basically – it’s hit and miss on whether long term deals are bad news.
Sabathia obviously did fine for the first few years of that deal. But then they paid him $23m/year from 2013-2015 to be well below average and be an alcoholic. They also vastly overpaid him $25m/year in 2016 & 2017 to be mostly average. The Yankees can obviously afford to throw money away, but they did very badly on the last 5 years of that deal.
The original deal was from 2009-2015. In that span he helped them win a WS and was a 4.7-5.9 WAR pitcher each year. He began to slide in the last two years he opted out after 2011 and they resigned him to an extension. If he had not opted out then the Yanks would’ve benefited from 4 good years, 1 “eh” year and 2 bad years. It’s that extension that was the problem.
Exactly. They should have let him walk after her opted out. They wasted a ton of cash on CC after that.
Overall that contract worked out well. Your first post never mentioned extensions or opt outs. So CC can’t be lumped in with those other players contracts you mentioned.
Paid him to be an alcoholic?
I can’t say on here what I truly feel about you.
If you want to look at it as 2 contracts, that is fine. One was good, one was bad. If you want to look at it as 1 long-term deal(as I was), I would say it was more bad than good.
Oh no! Another triggered snowflake.
I’m just stating the facts: CC’s alcoholism(and subsequent trip to rehab)are a big part of the reason that contract was bad. If you can’t handle that, so be it.
I can…
You even going there makes the word “Snowflake” a badge of honor. WTF
CC must have seriously put away a lot of alcohol to fill up that fat ass of his. He’s ridiculously out of shape and when he retires and doesn’t have a reason to get up and workout, he will be worse than ever. Think of a fatter and heavier Charles Barkley
And, yet, you didn’t.
Oh jeez. You too, Slevin? I figured the guy with a gun in his avatar would be tough enough to handle the truth about CC. I guess not, though. The amazing thing is that you know it’s true, too.
Is that like the “ton of cash” that the Red Sox are playing the 3 players that don’t even play for the team?
Would you call that a waste also? or are we just bashing Yankee moves and sidestepping all else?
If you are calling Panda and Rusney Castillo(not sure who the 3rd one is?) a “waste”, you will get no argument from me. That’s exactly what they are.
“Snowflake” is never , ever a badge of honor.
Concur. Glad Sabathia had the courage to get the help hr needed. Nothing wrong with that.
So since the D-backs are trying to trade Grienke after three seasons (1st season was abysmal) and eat some of his contract, means it worked out well?
The last 3 years and 75 million to Lester isn’t going to be pretty.
Past two years Tanaka has been an average pitcher.
Some rarely work out, most are over pays.
It’s not a year-by-year thing. You have to look at the contract as a whole.
Teams don’t sign guys to these massive contracts when they are ~30 and expect them to be great over the entire length of the deal. They expect the player(s) to overperform the first handful of years, providing excess value, and then fall off a little towards the backend (still providing some value but being “overpaid”). Hopefully they provide enough value on the front end to cover the lost cost on the backend.
Lester could provide minimal value over the next 2 years (3rd year is a team option) and still return enough value to be a very good free agent signing by the Cubs.
The Dbacks wouldn’t want out of that deal if they were planning on contending. Greinke is on the market because he’s still holding value, but the Dbacks don’t have any intentions to intend for when he’s on the backend of that deal.
Tanaka has been DECENT. He’s like a Rick Porcello where they make about $20m and produce about what is expected for that pay level. Pretty crazy.
Oh…is that how MLB teams view it. Thanks for filling me in.
LOL, sorry your simple synopsis isn’t how it works…There is a thing called a luxury tax and its based on a yearly measure. not over 5-6 years.
Sorry try again.
Decent? He’s got a career 3.59 ERA while pitching in the AL East and in Yankee stadium. He’s been the Yankees best pitcher since he’s been there.
haha so Mike Leake should be making 20++ mil by your logic????
No. Mike Leake isn’t even League-average. That’s really all he’s ever been.
When Tanaka was signed, he was paid to be an ACE. He’s not that, certainly. He’s pretty good. He’s definitely above average. But he’s no ace.
Tanaka and Lester have similar numbers in their times with their current clubs. I bet the Cubs would consider Lester’s contributions ace-like.
Lester has been better, though. He has 2 top-10 Cy Young finishes with the Cubs. He also helped them win a ring.
It’s definitely Tanaka’s fault that the other 24 guys didn’t perform well enough to win a World Series.
You’re right. It would have helped if the Yankees hadn’t been wasting so much cash on the likes of CC and had a better supporting cast around Tanaka when he was at his best. Tanaka and Lester were signed to deliver titles. Only one of them has accomplished that goal, however. Lester’s deal has been better in every way.
That’s the best response you have? The yearly luxury tax of ~$200M that is only in place to stop 5 or so teams from buying every good player in free agency?
If you really think teams expect players to produce at the same level every year of these massive contracts, I can’t help you.
But hey, maybe I’m the one that is wrong. Maybe the Angels front office does expect Pujols to produce like a 30 year old when he hits his 40s. I’m sure that kind of logical thinking is what got them jobs in the FO.
Never said that is what MLB FO are thinking, you did.
Its not about my expectations or the FO expectations. its about $$ and what you get for your buck.
There are few good contracts and many bad ones. Pujlos was a bad contract after the first 2 years. You’re proving my point.
And many “competing” teams will eat money from players not worth the $$ anymore and try to trade them, or simply cut them and pay the remainder to clear the roster spot. Many times its better than paying the tax penalty.
So in no way can that be considered good. unless you win it all. So there are A lOT of bad contracts, fact of baseball
Just more Yankee bashing from this guy!
Anybody who is or was a Red Sox player just walks on water for you don’t they?
Not at all. I just told you Panda and Rusney have awful contracts. The Red Sox have plenty of them. Pedroia has an awful contract. Before him Carl Crawford, Hanley and Adrian Gonzalez had awful contracts. I’m not some blind homer that can’t see the truth(the way you guys seem to be). Its hysterical watching you defend CC’s honor at all costs, though.
Dear Homer,
Stay in the West Coast and take CC with you.
Bye
“Its not about my expectations or the FO expectations. its about $$ and what you get for your buck.”
I’d love to know how you think GM’s come up with these contract offers if it has nothing to do with their expectations over the course of the deal…
I know the Padres gave Hosmer a massive contract to basically be a cheerleader, but that’s not how front offices normally operate.
Actually you should compare WAR totals of Hosmer and Harper past 3 seasons…
As much as I love to make fun of homer Cubs fans about that deal, it’s only been 1 year… It certainly isn’t looking good so far, but we have no idea how it’ll ultimately work out.
It won’t be terrible for either Yankees or Phillies if they don’t get him. Corbin would be a nice addition for any team, but there are other alternatives through trades or free agents.
i would be happy if the Phils passed on Corbin and went with Happ instead. cheaper and still plenty effective.
I have such a gut feeling that Corbin will pick the Phillies bc let’s face it, what ever Cashman wants, he gets, BUT we have heard zilch since the big meeting btw them? He would have been a Yankee already if the deal was the best, so in my mind, there goes Cashman
again cheapening the whole 6 years along with $$$$$$$, offering less.
SO, Corbin is now pondering. umm. let’s see. should I take a discount with the team me and my family love and have been fans of. OR umm, take a chance on Phillies, maybe they will build a stronger team, maybe Manny comes here too, Harper? I would even get more money.
What should I do, let’s see, lmao, take more money over my family being Yankee fans, lmao, or go for door number 2
Geeze. hope I am wrong
Goto,,,,, Players always play down the money. 99% of the time they are full of s___. We all know it. Doesn’t matter which team is involved. Its either the higher AAV over a shorter term or the total of guaranteed money for the full term.
On the other side you have billionaire owners trying to stay under the cap to save a few million while raising ticket and advertising prices laughing at all the zeroes in their accounts.
Pick your poison.
So true Lovethat
Thank you for your intake
Goto…. Looks like Corbin went where the money pile was the highest. As predicted.
Nor should there be any sign of strategy from the Yankees, that of course is playing it smart. No I don’t believe any player would take a discount just to play for a team he grew up rooting for. The Yankees will always be a player on everyone according to Nightengale, and of course posters on here take it out on Yankee fans. Yes I see some of the grief is deserved, but that goes for fans of other teams as well.
Cereal… My gut tells me this #halcare austerity plan is going to come to a screeching halt soon.
The Red Sox are partying in their Duckboats and now the Mets are acting up. OyVey WTF?
If Hal has just one of George’s genes in him, Yanks are going to spend. Cap or no cap..
I hope I’m wrong
By virtue of acquiring Stanton and Cashman letting it be know he wanted 2 starters I think he planned on spending regardless.
Anybody else have him going to the Yankees?
As usual, Rizzo’s ahead of the curve here, which is why I think Corbin winds up in DC. With all the emphasis on relief pitching (saying relivers are “volatile” is the understatement of the century), Rizzo will be the contrarian and load up on starters. Plus he already put together a decent bullpen.
The NL east is extremely winnable. Ya, I know the Phillies “have a lot of money”. And what have they done to indicate they know how to spend it? The Braves have all that young pitching, which unfortunately gets bombed when they’re brought up (probably too early). The Mets? We really don’t know yet.
Either Rizzo gets a solid #3 starter, or they re-sign Harper, which I still think is a very real possibility.
Bob, I agree. Rizzo can spend with the best of them. If they lose Harper, his money will get spent elsewhere. He’s not shy.
Bob,,,,, Good call!!
Have they given up on Harper or is he Act 2 for Rizzo?
I heard a rumor his agent pitched Corbin to the Yankees and NY Giants as a pitcher/quarterback dual threat.
The Giants will first need to find a taker for Eli’s contract.
Dipoto on line one.
Posted this in another article but I’ll expand upon what I think will happen:
-The Nationals will offer a higher total value than the Yankees, but with deferrals.
-The Yankees will offer him a competive, market-value contact.
-The Phillies will make an offer he couldn’t refuse.
All things equal, I think Corbin would pick the Yankees. I just have this gut feeling Philadelphia’s offer will have a wrinkle (Higher AAV, opt out(s), NTC, more years, etc.) that he’d be dumb to pass up.
+1
He’s a fine pitcher and all, but explain why any team would commit 6+ years and money that exceeds Yu Darvish money for a contract on a soon-to-be 30-year old, that you likely only get 2 to 3 years of reasonable value out of, with the last two years likely to look bad to very bad?
Corbin’s closest comps stat-wise are Jon Niese, Paul Maholm and Zach Duke (similar age-wise), though he did have a great 2018.
Alternatively, you could spend prospect capital, instead of cash to acquire Corey Kluber, who has the durability of Scherzer, same Cy Young pedigree and if something catastrophic happens in either year 1 or 2 of the deal, you just decline the 2nd or 3rd year option for a minimal buyout and move on.
Free Agent season always makes me scratch my head, as I rarely remember any FA signing that delivers excess value over the life of the deal, while trades deliver all of the time.
In your logic it’s how a player is acquired that determines whether or not the deal will work out and not the player, health and their performance. And you act as if giving up a package of young prospects isn’t a “cost” either. Basically, for the some teams, they would rather spend cash vs prospects. I can’t tell you how many proposed deals were “it’s going to cost you Judge, Sanchez and Severino” to get player A via trade. Clearly, that would likely of turned into a bad trade for the Yanks unless that pitcher helps up win them 2 or 3 WS rings. How you acquire the player has little to do with how they will perform, other than, logically, a player not acquired via trade will be younger than when they might be available as a FA.
Something tells me he is going to the Yankees regardless if it is the highest offer or not.
No player has ever signed with the Yankees at a discount. Not even their own players like Jeter or Cano.
How about Paul O’Neil. He was due about 21 mill for 3 years his final contract with Yanks. Told agent sign 3 years 12 mill. “I’ve already got more than I can spend in a lifetime and want to remain a Yankee”
Imo Yanks gonna offer him less money but with opt outs so if he blows the doors off he can still get paid.
and if he opts our, the Yankees are off the hook. Hopefully they learned from the ARod opt out and re-buy. ARod carried the team and won the WS in ‘09, which would have been year 10. It was year 2 of the new deal. Year 7 was a suspension, year 8 was excellent. Year 9 was not and he was cut with a month of year 9 and all year 10 eaten by the Yankees.
As a Braves fan, hoping the Phillies sign him and they “get stupid” with the contract
Apparently that’s the goal, to spend money stupidly.
Smart is sinking money into both Machado and Harper.
I don’t think he’s worth what he’s going to ask. Yankees are better off using a combination between Chance Adams, Loiasiga, and Domingo German
Not even close to being preferred choices.
Why. They’re all making the league minimum salary and you don’t have to waste 20m a year on a pitcher who’s never pitched in the AL East and will won’t live up to the contract. Spend the money elsewhere. Corbin isn’t worth that much. Cashman should pass on the acquisition
You’re using arbitrary reasons as to why they should pass on Corbin. You have no idea how he will perform and simply moving from NL to AL or AL East doesn’t mean you’ll do worse than before. As for the options you mentioned, I would not be comfortable having CC and one of them as my 4th and 5th guys. Yanks need another #1-#3 type of pitcher and that’s Corbin. Does he have risks? Of course but so do the other options.
The Yankees have the money to sign a pitcher of Corbin’s caliber, and the need. Those players you mentioned Adams, German are destined for the pen, and Loisaga is not on par with Corbin(who’s a desired LH starter) by the way. So no not close to preferred options.
I’ve read quite a few of your posts over the months, and I’ve come to the conclusion you’re just trolling Yankee fans. If I am wrong please let me know how.
They are not better off with those choices. If not Corbin then Happ would be the preferred choice. And it’s really a toss up between who they should focus on signing between Corbin and Happ
C’mon Ray..
Those 3 stink, just wait..They are Shreve
pitch a likes.
As soon as Corbin signs, the dominos will fall for the Happ’s and others, so I’m excited to just see an end game.
You don’t want a repeat of last offseason?
I’m excited to see how many I get wrong in the free agent prediction contest.
Reminds me of Carl Pavano’s free agency.
Boston changed Carl Pavano into Pedro Martinez
Phils get him because they need him more meaning they’ll offer more money. And it will be a bad contract like Darvish.
If he doesn’t sign with the Yankees I’d be so surprised
Wrote Corbin was trying to meet Darvish contract yesterday before this was reported..
Still took 10 down votes.
Just trying to discredit the vote system even further for new people here… Don’t pick fights with pple really hold a grudge..
Why do you care one iota about downvotes? You can’t discredit the voting system by stating you’re doing things to get a rise out of posters. Make a post and just don’t respond unless it’s to a valid reply.
Not trying to get a rise out of anyone..
Just proving how worthless downv are, w/ example when I posted Corbin looking for Darvish contract yester.. before this report (you responded, Slevy!) Baffled how it got 10 downvotes lol. Must be cuz also wrote Phillies in 3rd place on Corbin in post ^^ Maybe cuz of the facetious last sentence..
Anyway.. Forget I said anything. I have bigger things to worry about. #Finals week babyyy!
Because he’s a moron.
If you post on message boards looking for upvotes, maybe stick to Facebook.
The commentariat on this site is fickle at best and it seems most just like to get you riled up. Maybe that’s what you’re looking for, idk.
Mostly I like to come here for info and jump into a debate/discussion about baseball. I hold no ones voting of my comment to any sort of judgment or standing. All I know is that when you get the pack on your heels, it clogs up the comment section. Which is pretty lame.
“Mostly I like to come here for info and jump into a debate/discussion about baseball.”
This times infinity!
“I hold no ones voting of my comment to any sort of judgment or standing.”
I wish others didn’t either. But there are pple who say: “your post got xx downvotes.. therefore, I don’t have to make logical argument, Im right ur wrong.” or new pple who use vote system as be all end all to judge.” and my personal favorite… the ones who just use it to insult others as 99% of their posts ;-)
Xab if those totals for upvotes and downvotes get to you, try my site. We only count upvotes.
I found quite a few great posters here. My site is small, consists mostly of NY and Boston fans. Plus 1 St Louis fan for the most part. Baseball is the #1 topic, We do stray at times. If we had more posters, baseball would be number 1..
I enjoy this forum but the articles separate the comments and makes it tough to keep the dialogue flowing. All are welcome to try us out, especially on the slow days as an alternative. SportsPlusMore dot.net.
You folks have a good site going here. Congrats!!
xab, I’ll upvote you.
I enjoy back and forths with my cousins to the south. With Philly, Nats and yanks chasing his tail, Corbin gets more then Yu Stink imo.
Thanks for the class. You dewey, karkat are some of the best fans. Looking forward to Yanks sign Bryce Corbin, fighting dogfight the AL East years to come
Xab… The AL Beast is back. I can’t tell you how much I enjoy the rivalry. One of my brothers is a huge Yankee fan. I’m in SW Florida now, quite a few Rays fans and of course many Red Sox fans.
IMO NY signs one of Corbin/Happ and Machado. As long as they don’t sign Harper., but I wouldn’t put it past Cashman. They can afford him after last years reset.
Dewey is a class act. Agree. Cereal is fun as well as quite a few others. Its a good site.
Nov. 3rd MLBTR predictions….”With age on his side, we foresee a bidding war taking Corbin up past Yu Darvish money.”
Today….xabial 3 hours ago
“Wrote Corbin was trying to meet Darvish contract yesterday before this was reported..”
Now do you understand?
Yankees should sign Happ.
Corbins camp must not be thrilled with his offers, I bet the Teams he visited all offered the same amount of years and dollars, and his agent is on the phone calling teams to see if they can up the offer.
How about Paul O’Neil. He was due about 21 mill for 3 years his final contract with Yanks. Told agent sign 3 years 12 mill. “I’ve already got more than I can spend in a lifetime and want to remain a Yankee”
Everyone keeps comparing Darvish to corbin. One major difference Darvish was 31 when he signed his contract coming off a year of injuries, Corbin is 29 coming off a great injury free year.
Willy, Darvish had the better track record. Corbin had a great year last year.
His FB averages 90-92 and he threw a good percentage of sliders last year. It was also the first time he threw as many as 160 innings. Durability could be an issue.
But as you posted, he’s 29. Not a minor stat. But is he a one year wonder or was last year the first of many good years? TBD, How much money does a team commit to find out?
My mistake, I confuse Paxton and Corbin. I mixed up their innings. Corbin pitched 200 innings in 2018.
My angst on him would be going from the NL West to the AL East. Doesn’t mean he can’t make the transition.
Corbin first good year, will he relapse probably .
Larry, that would be my fear. Once the players get their first big contract, they seem to get lazy and rarely provide good value.
If Corbin wants to win, he won’t go to NY. Boston is the team to beat. They made a huge error in judgment getting Stanton now his contract is AROID part Deux! They still have Ellsbury piece of crap salary around their neck so what does Cashman do? He spends his money on another unneeded OF who last I checked, can’t pitch but he keeps the pitchers happy with his propensity to strikeout 2 to 3 times a game!
DK, for 2019 maybe Sox are the team to beat. NY won 100 games and they have already improved with Paxton.
Boston is in trouble starting in 2020 with X, Sale and Porcello all free agents.
Corbin, 6 years for $126M OR Greinke 3 years for $90M (includes $25M deferred until 2025-2026). Which would you rather have?
Corbin is younger, had a great year 2018, looks like 2018 is sustainable from a quality standpoint, but injury history says a 6 year contract is risky.
Greinke is 35, so some fans think he is an aging, soft tossing head case with an albatross contract. However, his last two season (3.20 ERA and 3.21 ERA) indicate he is still elite, with no signs of aging. So he is a proven Ace with a solid value contract, that has fewer years than Corbin would command at a lower dollar value. Both Corbin and Greinke would actually be paid $21M each year for the next 3 years.
So, I’d rather have Greinke. Less money overall, fewer years commitment, more reliable Ace quality production for 3 more years of team control.
I have thought to myself that if the Yanks were so pissed that Boston won and even celebrated on Yankee Turf, they should have re signed Happ immediately instead of CC, got Paxton as the did, then play the waiting game while offering the best to Corbin. What a rotation. which they have needed for years.
Just saying if they were so undone when the Sox won.
Best part? It’s not the Yanks that are getting him, despite what the fanbase wants LOL
Synder…. Do you think the Mets trade him?
I can’t see them doing that. It would have to be one heck of an offer.
Send him to Boston.
Guessing 6/$130M
Going to the braves, calling it right now
If it’s more than 5 years, I hope the Yankees don’t get Corbin. They should just sign Happ instead.
Feels like we’re being trolled by the transaction guys (Rosenthal, Heyman, Passan, Crasnick, Olney etc). First the Harper nonsense and now this.
Scott, agree on the pundits. They live to make their own rumors and then add rumors to the rumors like they are flys on the GM’s walls.
“yAnKeEs To YaNkEeS iS a LoCk”
Patrick Corbin, Max Scherzer, and Stephen Strasburg!!! Are you flipping kidding me???? Holy flack!!
140M for 6 years…… Rich man.
Good luck with him
that will be one expensive rotation that doesnt win a playoff series.
Nationals! Wow!
Finally the Yankees don’t get their way, just wish the reds could have signed him
Hopefully they get a two year deal done with Dallas
Blind hate of the Yankees knows no bounds. You are probably the same type of person to bring up that the Yankees couldnt get Cliff Lee or Ohtani and yet complain that they always get what they want
NY and LA normally get what they want if they try
Yeah, no. They have tried with a lot of players, Corbin included, and did not get what they want. NY and LA only seem to get what they want because they used to be the only two teams willing to drastically overpay for players.
If NY and LA normally got what they wanted they would have WS victories every other year.
Cliff lee wasn’t anything special
He had one great year and several good years
In which he won the CY young
Can you even stay consistent with your reasoning? He wasnt anything special yet won a Cy Young and had SEVERAL good years? Please bro get it together. C. Lee was much more special than Corbin. The only thing that derailed Lee was injuries.
2016 had a 4.08 ERA 2000 1785.20 ERA. Clearly a situation of a guy cashing in on one good season in my opinion the Yankees and Phillies dodged a major bullet.
I am happy that he didn’t choose the Yankees. The Yankees have not had much success with NL pitchers in the past. Also I think he is perfect for the Nats. I hope Cashman has something else planned maybe bring back Happ on a 2 year deal.
I would like for him to sign with us, mainly because I can see him becoming a David Wells type in the rotation.
I wouldn’t pay ANY SP more than 3 yrs, and I wouldn’t pay a reg player more than 5.
Pitchers are too fragile, too expensive and unreliable. Sure there are exceptions but wasn’t Corbin injured 2 yrs ago? I’m just glad he didn’t go to Philly.
I totally agree.
So let’s make trade for Klauber
Bring Happ back
Imo; no to happ. Too many years, f the money. That’s why Corbin is in dc. Bad decision to me without knowing contract.