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Dallas Keuchel Still Seeking Five-Year Deal

By Steve Adams | December 28, 2018 at 12:51pm CDT

Dallas Keuchel is the top remaining starter on the free-agent market, and though the New Year is nearly upon us, he and agent Scott Boras are still seeking a lofty five-year contract, tweets Jon Morosi of MLB.com. The Phillies, according to Morosi, have been in pursuit of Keuchel but aren’t willing to offer him a five-year deal. Two weeks ago, Mark Zuckerman of MASNsports.com had a similar report regarding the Nationals’ interest in Keuchel, writing at the time that the Nats were “leery of giving him the five- or six-year deal he seeks.”

Perhaps the notion of a six-year deal has fallen to the wayside, but even a five-year pact for Keuchel would represent somewhat of a surprise. MLBTR predicted a four-year deal worth $82MM at the outset of free agency, and to this point there are more reports of teams being wary regarding his asking price than of those strongly pursuing the 2015 AL Cy Young winner. Beyond the Phillies and Nationals, the Reds have also been prominently connected to Keuchel, but recent indications are that they’d be reluctant to meet his asking price. The fact that Cincinnati has already added both Alex Wood and Tanner Roark likely lessens their urgency to add a high-profile free agent, as well.

In addition to those three teams, Keuchel has been tied to the Angels, Brewers, Rangers and Padres over the past couple of weeks. He was also linked to the Braves and Blue Jays earlier in the offseason, although those reports were contested fairly quickly.

The Phillies, though, have been previously tied to Keuchel, and it seems there’s still some interest on their part if the asking price eventually comes down. In many ways, it’s a scenario reminiscent of last winter’s Jake Arrieta saga, in which the Phillies were frequently connected to the right-hander (also a Scott Boras client) throughout the winter but only agreed to terms with Arrieta once his asking price dropped to three guaranteed years. Keuchel is a year younger now than Arrieta was last winter, so speculatively speaking, perhaps they’d be a willing to bring in Keuchel on a four-year term — thus guaranteeing his salaries through age 34, just as they did with Arrieta.

While much of the Phillies’ offseason has centered around Manny Machado and Bryce Harper, upgrading the rotation is nonetheless a priority for GM Matt Klentak (as evidenced by Philadelphia’s unsuccessful pursuit of Corbin). Right-hander Aaron Nola broke out as a legitimate No. 1 starter and finished third in NL Cy Young voting this past season, and Arrieta gives the Phillies a solid veteran to follow him in the rotation. Beyond that pairing, the trio of Nick Pivetta, Zach Eflin and Vince Velasquez has shown promise at times but still lacks experience. There’s also been longstanding speculation that Velasquez’s eventual home may be in the bullpen rather than the rotation.

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  1. fasbal1

    6 years ago

    Keuchel has got to be the biggest risk on FA market this year, especially at 5 years.

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    • basebaIl1600

      6 years ago

      Of all the starters he’s actually the least injury prone and the best fit to age well, just has the lowest floor/ceiling.

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      • bigpapi4everandever

        6 years ago

        better against father time is like betting against the globetrotters

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        • driftcat28 2

          6 years ago

          Hahaha I love that analogy

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        • n13gmlb

          6 years ago

          Who would give this a down vote? I even at 1-1

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        • Breezy

          6 years ago

          wut.

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        • realgone2

          6 years ago

          Who cares about down votes………

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        • EndinStealth

          6 years ago

          Amen, there’s always some one saying “Why down vote me”. Up or down votes are absolutely meaningless.

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        • iverbure

          6 years ago

          Wonder what the success rate is on FA who have the draft pick attached to them is? Sense that has more to do with him being unsigned than anything.

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        • williemaysfield

          6 years ago

          Teams no longer lose their top pick. Worst case would be a luxury tax team losing a 2nd and 4th round spots with some international money.

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        • dugdog83

          6 years ago

          I wonder if 70% of these readers are using the mobile app which doesn’t show up or down votes. This cry for votes is getting real lame quick

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        • jkurk_22

          6 years ago

          Agreed. I love that the app doesn’t show that nonsense. I’m honestly rather surprised at the number of people who view this site on their computers

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    • xabial

      6 years ago

      Highest groundball % out of all pitchers in 2017

      And up there in 2018.

      Bonus: Keuchel fields his position well

      Trust him to age better than 102mph Eovaldi’s
      (also with bad strikeout # surprisingly lol)

      Speaking of Eovaldi… Reminds me.. No injury scares!!

      This dude underrated IMO

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      • Lefty Grove’s right hand

        6 years ago

        I Agree with that x

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        • xabial

          6 years ago

          This years Jake Arrieta.

          Former Cy young, won rings, both “declining” even have the same agent who everyone hates

          I’d actually take him over Arrieta cuz younger

          Also felt Arrieta trajectory was sharper decline but you can make an argument Arrieta signing went better than expected first year for Phills

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        • Ejemp2006

          6 years ago

          I like if take mound every 5 day and do quality start. Keuchel does and will do for 3 year more. After that, he become Ford transmission, even shift not work.
          Super rich top team sign, like Yankee, to insure quality start inning to be there. Cash go up to 4/80?

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        • Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher

          6 years ago

          Except for the fact that, during crunch time when the Phillies needed him the most, Arrieta was just as dreadful over his final half dozen or so starts as the Phillies were over their final 40 games..

          Historically, giving out four and five-year contracts to pitchers north of their thirtieth birthdays hasn’t been a recipe for success. Aren’t the Dodgers still paying Kevin Brown?

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      • astromariner

        6 years ago

        Agreed. Don’t see why the Astros wouldn’t bring him back.

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      • JKB 2

        6 years ago

        I do not think he is underrated. I think the issue is his age and that he wants a 5 year contract.

        The 4/82 prediction referenced sounds about right.

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      • Aaron Sapoznik

        6 years ago

        Dallas Keuchel is Mark Buehrle with a couple of injuries which were not arm related, namely a pinched nerve in his neck and a sprained foot. The White Sox should be all over him in addition to vying for Manny Machado and Bryce Harper.

        The White Sox could easily afford all 3 of them but Keuchel would arguably solve their biggest need going forward: To provide better balance balance in a rotation that only features one southpaw in Carlos Rodon while also being a nice complement/contrast to all of the RHP’s who are expected to make up their future staff, many of whom are high octane power arms with some command issues.

        Signing Keuchel asap might also give those other two elite FA’s additional food for thought as they contemplate their own future destinations. The White Sox might look more like contenders in 2019 rather than in 2020 or 2021.

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      • Flapjax55

        6 years ago

        Disagree. Completely.

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      • Cardinals17

        6 years ago

        Hmmm….you listened to MLB Radio today….Didn’t you…..

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    • RedFeather

      6 years ago

      5 years 85 mill

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    • wrigleywannabe

      6 years ago

      Bryce Harper and his 3 out of the last 5 years of WAR around or below 2 disagrees.

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    • Bert17

      6 years ago

      Kimbrel at 6/100 is on line 1.

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    • ThatBallwasBryzzoed

      6 years ago

      I’d take him over chatwood and Darvish at this point. Darvish will recover and be just fine. The Cubs should have optioned chatwood to triple A to work on his mechanics. Theres was no reason to keep him on the 25 man roster. After his struggles started. He was decent every other 4 starts then he just lost all control from June on.

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  2. JayRyder

    6 years ago

    Brewers Might Be Good. !

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    • Goku the Knowledgable One

      6 years ago

      Pirates.

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  3. pinkerton

    6 years ago

    I’m glad Phils are remaining bullheaded on Keuchel. He’s not worth five. Three, definitely. MAYBE four. But we’ll see what happens. We need to spend some stupid money but let’s not be silly.

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    • Woods Rider

      6 years ago

      Agreed. I think if the Phillies can get Keuchel on a contract similar to Arrieta’s with options for year 4, then you would have to pull the trigger if you’re Klentak. I don’t think anyone can blame them for not going 5 years, especially guaranteed.

      A 1-3 of Nola, Arrieta, and Kuechel may not be the sexiest combo, but it would certainly be solid.

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      • gson

        6 years ago

        1-3 of Kluber, Nola, Arrieta.. now that’s sexy !!

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        • RunDMC

          6 years ago

          Dead sexy rotation with a butter face offense.

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        • Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher

          6 years ago

          Agree, gson, Kluber is the wiser choice. Of course, the Phils have to trade for him, but I’m OK with that. After all, what are prospects other than players who haven’t done it at the MLB level. To wit, all those pitching prospects may end up relievers, and all those hitting prospects might not be hitters at all.. The bird in the hand is often a way better choice than the two in the bush IMHO.

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      • Samuel

        6 years ago

        @ philsphanindenver;

        You actually think Keuchel is worth $25m a year?

        Look, I like Mr. Keuchel. I think he’ll do well in the NL (although that park eats pitchers up). And because he’s not a power pitcher, losing 2-4 mph on his fastball while in his 30’s won’t effect him that much (losing pinpoint control will).

        But a $25m AAV for him is bizarre. Then again as I’ve written the past 2 months – if other teams are not really interested and the GM radically overpays, then the Phil’s can sign him. Worked for Arrieta and Santana last year, and McCutchen this year.

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  4. davengmusic

    6 years ago

    He’s a solid 2 or 3 guy, but he’s not the Cy pitcher he was in 15. If he wants 5 years, you’d think he’d have to drop below $20M AAV.

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  5. batty

    6 years ago

    I could see a 4 year deal with a vesting 5th year option based on time not spent on the DL in the 4th year or a straight up innings pitched total in the 4th year. I could also see Keuchel only finally getting a contract shortly before pitchers & catchers report.

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  6. Kraz Nadler

    6 years ago

    Dallas is a southern guy who’s stuff won’t translate to the big market. Think Carl Pavano

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    • bucketbrew35

      6 years ago

      Disagree. He was thrust into the spotlight on multiple occasions in the playoffs. He has a solid postseason track record to show for it. The stakes don’t get much bigger than the postseason so that leads me to believe he would be fine in a major market.

      With regards to signing with the Phillies. I’d be OK with 3 years with a 4th year option. I’m not sure that I would dare go beyond that.

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    • Lefty Grove’s right hand

      6 years ago

      What does him being a southern guy have to do with it?

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      • Kraz Nadler

        6 years ago

        ?Southerners are a different breed. No good up north

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        • southbeachbully

          6 years ago

          You mean like Chris Sale (FL), DeGrom (FL), Scherzer (MO) and Nola (LA)?

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        • slowcurve

          6 years ago

          Yeah Mickey Mantle was no good at all up north.

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        • slowcurve

          6 years ago

          Or Ty Cobb in Detroit, Hank Aaron in Milwaukee, etc.

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        • slowcurve

          6 years ago

          Mookie Betts begs to differ.

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        • Melchez

          6 years ago

          Those southern players… name one player from the Dominican or Venezuela that made it up north…

          Oh wait… Thought I was on the NHLTR site

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        • JKB 2

          6 years ago

          Peavy is a southern guy too. I guess he never got the memo either

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        • jjd002

          6 years ago

          Clemens and Pettite did pretty good in New York. Your comment was beyond stupid.

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      • Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher

        6 years ago

        Does “South” Philly count?

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    • Triteon

      6 years ago

      Houston is the 7th-largest media market…not exactly a small town.

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    • southbeachbully

      6 years ago

      Pavano is a poor comparison. He had 1 good season, his walk year, and the Yankees went all in on a suckers bet because he did the two things that the Yanks have mistakenly done in the past. a) Become enamored with a player that has dominated them in the post-season (He handled them in the 2003 WS while with the Marlins) and b) Became prisoners of the moment because he had a great 2004 season, his walk year.

      Aside from that 2004 and later in 2010 he never had an ERA 4.00. His peripherals were horrible too.

      Keuchel, to his credit, has a longer track record of excellence and has a good body of work in the post-season in Houston, which may not be as intense as NY, LA or Boston, but is still a major market.

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    • Michael Birks

      6 years ago

      Pavano is from Connecticut

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    • Aaron Sapoznik

      6 years ago

      Houston is a top 5 market in terms of city and metro population as well as a top-8 in media size depending on who’s ratings you subscribe to. I think they would qualify as a “big market” in MLB as well.

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  7. redsfan48

    6 years ago

    Reds should offer him a 5-year deal at a lesser AAV and see if he would prefer that over a 4-year deal. 5/$90M maybe?

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    • redsfan48

      6 years ago

      I think I’d rather slightly frontload it though if they do give him 5 years. $22M/22M/16M/15M/$15M for example. Makes the contract a bit more tradeable later and gives more future payroll flexibility.

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      • gocincy

        6 years ago

        This makes sense to me. The Reds will have to overpay to convince him to come to a team that has hope, but not a lot of wins yet. And the FO will have to accept the risk that comes with a free agent pitcher. However, that risk is smaller than if we keep trotting out AAAA pitchers who get clobbered. There’s legit risk that further lengthening this period of last place finishes will alienate the fan base, which is more costly than a FA contract that ages poorly.

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      • Woods Rider

        6 years ago

        That would make a ton of sense for the Reds.

        Reds have a good, young ballclub. I said it last year that they were much better than their record indicated. Dick Williams has made some good moves to put them in a position to succeed this offseason.

        The Reds are still in a tough division with the Brew Crew and the Cubs, but I think the days of being the doormat might be coming to an end for those guys.

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        • Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher

          6 years ago

          You’re right. The Pirates are gonna be the new doormats of the NL Central this year and beyond.

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    • brandons-3

      6 years ago

      If he had a 5/$90 offer from anyone, he’d jump on it quicker than a Kardashian on a you know what.

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    • southbeachbully

      6 years ago

      I think the total dollars are what it comes down to. Wouldn’t make sense to lower the AV and add on another year. His aim isn’t to be employed longer. It’s to get the most money possible on what might be his last big contract. Once it’s done he’s probably a year to year guy if that.

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      • redsfan48

        6 years ago

        He’s not getting a $22.5M/year AAV on any length deal so 5/$90M is still maximizing total dollars compared to a 4-year deal

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  8. R.D.

    6 years ago

    Remember when gil meche got a 5 year contract?

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    • bucketbrew35

      6 years ago

      Yup. He also forfeited the final year of salary because he was unable to perform to “his standards.”. That’s basically unheard of nowadays. That dude is a class act.

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    • Yankeepatriot

      6 years ago

      HA !!!!

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    • fasbal1

      6 years ago

      Ironically, McGwire walked away from his final year in the same manner, he must be a class act also?

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      • Melchez

        6 years ago

        “Ironically, McGwire walked away from his final year in the same manner, he must be a class act also?”

        Didn’t Laroche do that too?

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        • fasbal1

          6 years ago

          McGwire was a great Cardinal but the comment was made because I doubt many outside STL would consider him a class act….

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      • JKB 2

        6 years ago

        No McGwire did not walk away in the same manner at all. McGwire walked away in disgrace and to avoid steroid and PED questions. Not the same at all and NO McGwire is NOT a class act.

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        • fasbal1

          6 years ago

          McGwire was injured and walked, he missed most of his last season. In addition, who are we to judge a class act or not, bet most thought Russell was a class act prior to last year.

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    • joepanikatthedisco

      6 years ago

      and he was a legit ace the first two years with KC?

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      • R.D.

        6 years ago

        He was a #2 or 3 starter for two years. But look at his numbers before the signing. In those days keuchel woulda been locked up on a contract till he was 40.

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  9. Toakland

    6 years ago

    Two year deal with the A’s to reestablish his value and take home two rings. #cityofchampions

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    • Moneyballer

      6 years ago

      He doesn’t need to reestablish anything. He was solid last season.

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    • batty

      6 years ago

      Players don’t take 2 year deals to “reestablish value”. They take 1 year deals to do that.

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    • astromariner

      6 years ago

      None of what you said makes any sense. You lose the battle of the Internet today. Try again tomorrow.

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    • JKB 2

      6 years ago

      2 year deal to do what? A 32 year ild pitcher does not take a 2 year deal when he can get 3 or 4 no guaranteed.

      Could you explain how being then 34 years old helps his value even if he pitches well?

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  10. halfbakedmcbride

    6 years ago

    4/82 would be fine with me…
    Trade for Kluber
    Sign Britton
    VV to the bullpen
    Maybe Moustakas at 3rd
    Too much?? Haha

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    • DannyQ3913

      6 years ago

      VV has to go to the pen. I’m done with him starting

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      • Woods Rider

        6 years ago

        I’d have to agree. The kid has good stuff, but it seems as though he’ll be lights out through the order the first time and then the wheels fall off in the 4th inning.
        He’d probably be better served letting it all hang out for an inning or two as opposed to being a starter.

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        • Slevin

          6 years ago

          How many accounts do you have?

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        • Woods Rider

          6 years ago

          Just this one.

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        • Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher

          6 years ago

          Have always been amused when I read, “The wheels fell off”.”. Doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. Of all the things that can go wrong with a car, the wheels falling off isn’t one of them.

          That said, VV, with his stuff, could be a closer.

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    • bucketbrew35

      6 years ago

      Kluber is better than Dallas in every sense of the word but that would seem more like overkill if they sign Keuchel and then traded for Corey. Why give up the prospect capital when you can roll with what you have at that point and see how the season plays out?

      VV to the pen is fine. They would still be six deep plus with depth for the rotation when you factor in Eickhoff.

      Britton is the ideal target at this point.

      Moose is in no way an upgrade over Franco at this point. Maybe marginally on defense but at a much larger expense. Their offensive profiles are essentially the same at this point with Mikael actually still having some ceiling.

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    • Samuel

      6 years ago

      “Trade for Kluber”

      lol

      Even if he is traded, who do the Phil’s have to trade that the Indians don’t already have?

      Something like Nick Williams as a centerpiece along with 2 likewise overrated so-so Philllies prospects?

      lol

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    • joepanikatthedisco

      6 years ago

      Moose isn’t any better than Franco

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  11. ScottRolen

    6 years ago

    The Phillies were the worst defensive team in MLB in 2018. Keuchel does not miss bats.

    Beyond the mismatch, the Phillies do not need any starting pitchers. They already have six, and thanks to A.J. Preller’s love of Freddy Galvis they have a seventh ready to call up.

    The only lefty the Phillies need is Bryce Harper.

    What happened to the “stupid money”?

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    • bucketbrew35

      6 years ago

      With Segura and Cutch in the fold that left side improves significantly in 2019.

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      • Samuel

        6 years ago

        @ bucketbrew35;

        lol

        Segura plays SS and Cutch RF.

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      • jdgoat

        6 years ago

        Exactly. Hoskins is out of left which automatically upgrades the defense.

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  12. macstruts

    6 years ago

    Five year deal, that’s about the easiest no of the off season. Oh wait, Kimbrel is the easiest no of the off season.

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  13. Vizionaire

    6 years ago

    hope yankees sign him.

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  14. cwsOverhaul

    6 years ago

    Hard to blame DK for holding firm early offseason after seeing a sucker paid inferior Darvish 120+ last year

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    • gocincy

      6 years ago

      Absolutely. A FA pitcher only needs one sucker. Darvish suckered the Cubs last year and Lance Lynn suckered the Rangers this year.

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      • Jbigz12

        6 years ago

        Lance lynn received 30 million dollars over 3 years you suckered yourself if you think that’s a significant bad deal. If you want to talk about a sucker that was the Reds when they chose to extend Homer Bailey over Cueto

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  15. PinstripedPride

    6 years ago

    So much for “stupid money”, eh?

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  16. ffjsisk

    6 years ago

    4/80 with a vesting fifth seems reasonable

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  17. Slipknot37

    6 years ago

    If no one wants to give him 5 years, there is probably good reason.

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  18. renegadescoach

    6 years ago

    I can’t see the Phillies adding another starter who is just like Arrieta. Neither pitcher strikes batters out anymore and must rely on good defense, which the Phillies don’t have. Doesn’t make much sense.

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    • cheesesteak

      6 years ago

      The back end of the Phillies rotation is really bad. Dallas in the 3 spot with Eichoff and Eflin is way more watchable.

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  19. Swinging Friars

    6 years ago

    Dude is a stud, pay him his money @ 5 years

    So many teams would be better off with him on their staff. He’ll be 35 at the end of the deal, really not bad at all. He’s not a flame-throwing type

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  20. Zachary Hines

    6 years ago

    Cardinals ?

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    • batty

      6 years ago

      Cardinals don’t need starting pitching.

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      • Android Dawesome

        6 years ago

        You can always have more pitching. St Louis has lots of question marks. Martinez made less than 20 starts last season and has been inconsistent throughout his career. Mikolas is one season removed from pitching overseas. Last season he pitched like an ace but is it likely he can repeat that pace? Wacha has the same issues as Martinez and Wainwright cant stay off the DL. That leaves the kids. To me having an additional veteran makes a lot of sense.

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  21. madmanTX

    6 years ago

    How about one guaranteed year and 4 one year club options?

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  22. southbeachbully

    6 years ago

    If I’m a veteran FA like Keuchel I think I would instruct Boras to get me the best deal on the table, from a contender, with the most amount of years. Recent history has shown that teams are willing to wait out FA’s whose demands are seen as being absurd across the board. I would not want to go into February with my future team undecided. We as fans see it as simplistic but think about having to uproot your life and family and move to another city. I’ve done it 3 x and each one was a lot of work, especially if your family is moving with you.

    Also, look at the seasons those pitchers who signed after ST started. A lot of them didn’t seem prepared for the start of the season.

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  23. tweeter02

    6 years ago

    3 years $65 mil with a 4th year player option around $18 mil and a 5th year mutual option between $12-15 mil.

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    • Prospectnvstr

      6 years ago

      4 yrs 78 million with a vesting/ team option on 5th yr.

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  24. MetsYankeesRedSox

    6 years ago

    He’s GOTTA sign with the Reds just because of his beard! Compare to Tanner Roarks beard. Just those guys alone could entice Kimbral to hook up with their pitching staff. Then all it will take is a trailer load of cash for Harper & his beard to join the fray!

    What say Reds fans?

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  25. lowtalker1

    6 years ago

    Boras made be good for players and the mlbpa but he is forcing an issue that further separate teams and what they could do

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  26. Weighed

    6 years ago

    Philly will over pay. Nobody wants to live in Killadelphia.

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    • astick

      6 years ago

      Wrong.

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  27. Z-A 2

    6 years ago

    Mutual option? lol

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  28. platediscipline

    6 years ago

    Houston is down McCullers and Morton, JV after 2019. It is very telling to me that they don’t seem to be in on DK. Like screaming from the rooftops “don’t sign this guy”. I hope the Reds aren’t stuck with another bad contract.

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  29. Knowthemarket

    6 years ago

    You know, it’s bittersweet being a Braves fan. On one hand, you will never know if the Braves were in on Brantley. You can only wonder if the Braves tried for him or if Brantley simply wanted to go to Houston. You can pretty much count yourself out on players like Harper/Machado and maybe even Corbin even IF he didn’t have a preference for the Northeast.

    On the other hand, it won’t be your team tied down by Harper/Machado/Corbin’s 33-35 years of age production or have $35 million dollars in payroll tied up on the DL.

    And same goes for Keuchel. You are not going to get AA to agree to a five year contract with an AAV of around $25 million. I’m grateful for that.

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  30. melj

    6 years ago

    No team will give DK five years.

    Four years is a stretch.

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  31. Knowthemarket

    6 years ago

    You know, it’s bittersweet being a Braves fan. On one hand, you will never know if the Braves were in n Brantley. You can only wonder if the Braves tried for him or if Brantley simply wanted to go to Houston. You can pretty much count yourself out on players like Harper/Machado and maybe even Corbin even IF he didn’t have a preference for the Northeast.

    On the other hand, it won’t be your team tied down by Harper/Machado/Corbin’s 33-35 years of age production or have $35 million dollars in payroll tied up on the DL.

    And same goes for Keuchel. You are not going to get AA to agree to a five year contract with an AAV of around $25 million. I’m grateful for that.

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  32. Melchez

    6 years ago

    I thought for sure Keuchel would go to the Angels. They have a very solid infield defense. I also thought they’d get Grandall as catcher in an attempt to at least have a shot at the playoffs. Once you make the playoffs, it’s a crapshoot.

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  33. YourDaddy

    6 years ago

    4/$80 MM with option year and $4 million buyout. That makes sense.

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  34. Aaron Sapoznik

    6 years ago

    I haven’t seen the White Sox linked to Dallas Keuchel but I believe he would be an excellent addition to their starting rotation and would be worth the risk of a five year contract.

    Keuchel will turn 31 next month but age would be a less significant factor for a pitcher who doesn’t rely on strikeouts and has excellent command. He is annually among the best pitchers in inducing ground balls and also for allowing soft contact. This is particularly important for a pitcher who happens to pitch in a hitter-friendly park which Keuchel has done in Houston for the entirety of his 7 year MLB career. Guaranteed Rate Field on the southside of Chicago would also qualify. He has also won four Gold Glove awards. All this should sound very familiar to White Sox fans: Mark Buehrle!

    Keuchel would also be an excellent fit in the White Sox rotation going forward. They currently have one southpaw starter in Carlos Rodon. None of their top SP prospects throw from the left side either. With the exception of Dane Dunning they are high octane power arms with some command issues. Keuchel would provide better balance and great contrast in a future rotation that figures to include Michael Kopech, Rodon, Dylan Cease, Dunning and Reynaldo Lopez with Alec Hansen and Lucas Giolito also in the conversation.

    Perhaps the White Sox are fearful that Keuchel will become their next John Danks rather than Buehrle but I don’t see it that way. Danks had a chronic shoulder injury that included a capsular tear which needed to be surgically repaired, one that no pitcher ever fully recovered from including Johann Santana. The injuries that have put Keuchel on the disabled list for parts of the past couple of seasons were primarily a pinched nerve in his neck and a sprained foot.

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  35. dorcho

    6 years ago

    In My Opinion the Phillies should offer Dallas a guaranteed three year year deal, the 4th year should be a option for the team and should guaranteed Dallas a buyout of at least 5 millions, the 3 year deal should be something close to 65 to 70 millions. If They can’t sign him, They should try to deal for Bauer or Kluber and in the less hipotetycal case for Zack Greinke. They have to forget about Harper and sign A. J Pollock and go full poker for Machado, They need a Good third base now that They have a Good short stop. Also They Should sign Britton or David Robertson as a Closer.

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    • Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher

      6 years ago

      It would take more than Cigar Guy’s stupid money to accomplish all of what you just described. Although I’d love to have Greinke depending upon how much of the cheese owed to him Arizona would be willing to eat..

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  36. Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher

    6 years ago

    The player who no one is counting on in Philly who will surprise with a great season is Franco. Anyone with his pop and low strikeout rate has the basic hitting talent. Some minor adjustment is needed to turn all those infield pop ups into line drives. Carlos Santana didn’t help Franco. Maybe McCutchen will be the guy to get in Franco’s ear?

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  37. modifish

    6 years ago

    Some sportswriter (supposedly pretty legit) is basically guaranteeing that Machado is going to the Yankees. Guy’s name is Dan Clark. Says his source is solid….he sounds darn sure about it….

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    • seth3120

      6 years ago

      Machado to the Yanks seems like a really good bet and would make that lineup stupid good. Adding Paxton was a good addition all comes down to the rest of the rotation. They will mash no doubt

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  38. seth3120

    6 years ago

    I can’t see Keuchel getting a 5 year deal I just can’t. I think four is absolute max. I could see a little more creativity with his deal. Higher first year value with a buyout allowing him to have a bit better year headed into free agency. A move to the NL could help that. If you want five years at his age you have to be lights out the year headed into free agency

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  39. kevins-7

    6 years ago

    This market is about to start some fireworks. You guys can be pretty tough out there, but please read this whole post before trashing it.
    Keuchel to the Pittsburgh Pirates at 4 years and $76M. It makes tons of sense for them – just don’t know if it would make sense for him. The Pirates have watched every team in the NL Central improve their rosters this off-season. They’ve picked up only Lonnie Chissenhall and Jordan Lyles while dumping Ivan Nova’s salary. They need a shortstop and a LH starter (see PNC Park). Since they do everything on the cheap, I would’ve been happy with Derek Holland, but I see he resigned with the Giants (JA Happ was my first choice). The Bucs are at approx $68M payroll right now. Add $19M for Keuchel, and then $4-5M for whoever is last remaining between Galvais, Iglesias, & Hechavarria at SS. Just need a year or two before a flood of middle infield help arrives. Unload Cervelli if you have to! You could even extend Taillon and Dickerson and keep payroll near $100M for the foreseeable future. This current core has about a 3-year window, then the top players will be getting paid elsewhere again. I love the thought of Keuchel, Taillon, #8 overall prospect Mitch Keller, and Archer in your rotation for the next 3 years.
    He may (likely) get a better offer elsewhere, so I’d offer now. Who knows if he’d even consider it, but I can dream right?!
    BTW Pirates’ front office, I’m still waiting for a reason to get my family’s first ticket package in several years – Here’s another opportunity…

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