In the course of a lengthy discussion of Mike Trout’s status with the Angels, Fabian Ardaya of The Athletic (subscription link) drops a note regarding the team’s immediate payroll situation. The Halos, he says, “could top” last year’s team-record payroll, which checked in right around $165MM for the third-straight campaign. Whether that suggests there’s significant room to add depends upon how far past the prior line the team is willing to go; at the moment, the club already projects to have over $162MM in commitments on its books for the present season. With some creativity, though, the team could perhaps still pursue a significant addition this winter — especially if it is willing to allocate some of its relatively clean post-2020 payroll space. The club has added over $27MM in 2019 payroll so far this winter, but it has done so without adding a dime to its future balance sheets.
- Regarding Trout, the above-linked post covers a fair bit of ground on the broader landscape of large contracts, though it largely (and understandably) leaves unanswered the ultimate question: how much money would it take to keep Trout from testing the open market? He’s far and away the best player in baseball — you’ll need to rub your eyes to make sure you’re reading this leaderboard properly — so much so that any other contract comps feel all but silly to make. Still, former Marlins president David Samson, whose quotes appear liberally throughout the post, claims that even Trout isn’t worth $40MM annually. Of course, Samson also advocates some other dubious positions, such as the notion that, as a front office leader, he would “have a very hard time telling my owner that Bryce Harper is worth $30 million a year when I can have Juan Soto making $555,000.” That sort of imbalance, of course, is baked right into the financial structure of the game. There’s no question any team would rather get more player for less money, but the cost to acquire freely available, established talent is vastly greater than that to retain pre-arbitration and arbitration-eligible players due only to the constraints on the earning power of less-experienced players. In any event, the potential future market value of Trout will be decided in an open bidding scenario, the outcome of which is impossible to predict at present. What seems clear, though, is that he will reasonably anticipate an opportunity to earn a monumental sum of money along with the chance to choose his destination; the Angels, it stands to reason, would need to offer an immense sum to keep him from checking out the alternatives.
- So, how likely is an extension for Trout? Not very, says Jon Heyman of Fancred (via Twitter), who cites “whispers” that there’s not much hope of something coming together in the near-term. The club itself was unwilling to disclose the status of talks, if any, per Ardaya. According to Heyman, the Halos do still intend to try to get some chatter going. It’s hard, though, to see why Trout would have much reason to bite unless the organization offered something truly outrageous. He’s already guaranteed to have earned hundreds of millions of dollars over the course of his playing career, so it’s not as if he’s still looking for that first big contract. And with two years still to go before reaching the open market, Trout will presumably prefer to see how things develop on and off the field before committing — unless, perhaps, he’s so comfortable in Anaheim that he simply prefers to stay.
- Quite a bit can change in two years’ time, after all. To take but one example, it’s tough to know how the Angels’ ballpark situation will look by that time. While the long-term plans remain up in the air, the club has now formally secured a one-year deal with the city of Anaheim to keep the club in Angels Stadium through the 2020 season, as Bill Shaikin of the Los Angeles Times tweets. That’ll leave some added breathing room for both the club and the municipality to try to line up on a plan for the future. It seems the smart money remains on a local solution, though there’s no real indication at this point exactly how things will shake out. Major renovations and new construction both appear to be possible outcomes.
RedRooster
Angels are gonna have to trade Trout next offseason if not earlier
Bart
As an Angel fan I would rather trade him for a boatload of prospects than pay his 30+ year old ass 40ish mil. He is one injury away from becoming a very good player.
xXabial
“he is one injury away from becoming a very good player”
what??? last I heard trout was a very good player.
please elaborate…I’m very interested to hear your case.
andrewgauldin
I think he’s saying Trout is a great player, and that he’s an injury away from going from a great player to a very good player.
xXabial
still makes no sense
..trout playing for a very bad team but puts up a WAR like he played on a contending team.
mydadleftme
It makes sense he is obviously putting up great numbers, no one is saying other wise. He’s just saying another injury good knock him down a bit performance wise.
zwmartin
Trout is literally the best player of all time at his age. You people are insane.
luclusciano
so, he will go from the best to one of the best? not following the logic. still would be an amazing player.
KnicksFanCavsFan
whether the team is good or bad is inconsequential. i’ts an individual accomplishment. one guy isn’t taking a team to the playoffs like one can do in the nba.
KnicksFanCavsFan
your mind is limited to right now
lowtalker1
That’s bc you’re a drag queen
rm2916
He is saying,he’s Superman now,but if he gets an Injury he will become Normal like the rest of us Humans, got it!
davidcoonce74
It’s insane how good Trout is. By JAWS he is *already* the 7th-best centerfielder of all time, and he’s played just 7 full seasons. Only guys ahead of him are Mays, Cobb, Speaker, Mantle, Griffey and Dimaggio. This is a once in a lifetime player. I wish Trout wasn’t so boring, because it would be a huge boon to baseball if he had any kind of marketable personality, but it’s quite difficult to build a brand around a love of the weather, his wife, and the Eagles. But enjoy him while we can – most of us have never seen a player like this in our lives.
JaysForDays
Mlb needs more trout personalities… already too many attention seeking drama queens in sport. He’s a great example for today’s youth.
davidcoonce74
No; the reason the NBA is making headroads into NLB’s popularity is because the best basketball players are also compelling personalities. Baseball and the way it polices players who show any kind of emotion or joy makes the game bland to the outsider.
Saint Chris
I would love it if he was prancing around and trash talking like Conor McGregor.
davidcoonce74
Yes, or just showing any emotion at all. I know the Brian McCanns of the world are opposed to making baseball fun, but I like trash talking and bat flips.
Swinging Friars
The dude looks a bit like bonds with his build… What if he ages like Bonds too?
If he stays an Angel his entire career, people will pay to see him play at 42. The guy is a freak! Even with the steroids looming over Bonds, we went nuts down here in SD to see him play when he came to town. Those kinds of talent are rare. Angels fans would be very fortunate to get to see 15+ years of Trout
phillyfan
LOL…..we’ll be glad to have his 30ish Ass here in Philly……and the Angels can continue to follow up the rear of the pack!
kimball0401
The thing with trading trout though is that you will never get a package that will come close to the talent that trout has. No young player out there will turn out to be as good as he is
brown trout fisherman
30 year old ass? YOU DONT DESERVE HIM
Vizionaire
any angels articles here attract flies like you just as a pile of cow dung attracts trolls.
ffjsisk
I’d hold off on that talk. Let’s see what Harper signs for first. These contracts have gotten so big and out of control it seems like teams are trying to force the market backwards now. Trout may be best suited signing an extension rather than testing FA.
Miguel Jr
Trout not going anywhere. He’s too happy living in Newport Beach.
ericl
He spends much of his offseason back home on the East Coast. He has season tickets to the Eagles & grew up a Philly sports fan. I don’t think living in Newport Beach is going to make any difference for Trout. If the Angels continue to be mediocre, Newport Beach isn’t going to keep Trout with the team
Vizionaire
do you even know that trout goes to every angels game? he even has premier seats by just asking. he also goes to ducks games wearing their Jerseys. on top of all that, he even lives in the most beautiful place called newport beach!
Cat Mando
Newport Beach….yet he goes home each off-season and owns a large farm in the Bridton/Millville area
Vizionaire
he was selling a bit of land there. or he was just helping a friend sell it by posting it on facebook.
Cat Mando
“Source and description. His farm is a 300 acre plot minutes from his parents. He bought it when he moved from his parents home in 2013.
““It’s just where he wants to be,” He’s a family guy. He loves his [three-legged] dog. He’s close with his mother. He has a great group of friends here he’s had since he was a little kid. He’s very tight with his brother and sister and he loves his niece and nephew. He grew up fishing and hunting and clamming these woods and these waters.”
~Trout’s father, Jeff Trout,
Vizionaire
so, you really want him gone!
Cat Mando
To FA, yes and then to sign with the Phillies.
Vizionaire
that’s a shame!
Cat Mando
Correction… when he moved from his parents home in 2016.
Cat Mando
“that’s a shame!”
Why? Shouldn’t he be allowed to test FA and to play where he wants if that’s his decision?
junkmale
Haha Newport Beach is ok but hardly one of the most beautiful places.
sheff86
Exactly. And I never see him at Ducks games. And you never see him at CHOC they send the other Angels. And Fat Albert doesn’t go to CHOC either.
Vizionaire
naturally, you weren’t allowed to go in ritzy places,
thegreatcerealfamine
He should, and he will.
natelowda2
I would hope he goes to angels games. I mean they do pay jinx
natelowda2
Him
luclusciano
if the Phillies sign one or both of machado or Harper I can’t see them committing to Harper in 2 years. unless they have a team option in 2-3 years, which I doubt either agent would do.
SoCalAngelsFan75
My son had a short stay at CHOC a couple years ago and talking to one of the nurses, he said that both Pujols and Trout go regularly without much fanfare. This was a couple of years ago and can’t quantify “regularly” but the fact they go without media attention is pretty cool.
yamsi1912
Trout goes to CHOC regularly.
sufferforsnakes
I hear ya. Ever try to find parking there?
Rike Metro
300 acre farms are hard to come by in Newport Beach.
StuMatthews11
As hard to find as massive homes on a private beach with summerlong sunshine. Phillies fans don’t understand Mike Trout can have IT ALL, including the lousy ranch back East.
sheff86
No ring and you get to live in Newport Coast.
He can still own that crib and play for Philly or NY or Boston. There’s a reason those threee don’t have CF long term on their payroll.
Gary White
I think you are out of your mind… He’s happy at the beach? I think he would be happy winning in October/November than cruising the beach in Oct/Nov. He is a gamer and he wants to win. He makes enough money to go to any beach after the season. He could play in KC or STL and still go hanging at the beach. Dumb comment just dumb. Trout to the Lou baby… lol
Miguel Jr
Gary white, apparently you don’t know what Newport Beach is. Have ever been to SoCal? This is alot different from living is a small farm in Saint Louis!
RedRooster
Lotto numbers please
StuMatthews11
Very true. It’s Laguna Beach, not Newport, but point taken. Laguna is even nicer!
eggggggggggg
I believe Harper will sign with the Angels for 3 reasons.
1. Lefty, Gets Onbase A lot
2. Allows them to trade Calhoun for Relif
3. Shows Trouty that they want to content
halofan20
They Lowered the right field yellow line to 3 feet tall and that equals to 60 homers a year.
cookmeister 2
Uhhh. What?
The yellow line is 8 feet high
And I have no clue what the 60 homers is a reference to
xXabial
yeah for the the whole team..lol
Harper and machado are gonna sot like ducks until they lower thier price tag. its the trend for the past few seasons.
HardWorkingAmerican
If they sign Harper, they wont be able to afford Trout at 500mil. You are right about point 3…it will showTrout that they are content with mediocrity because Harper isn’t good enough. He was on a better team in DC and couldn’t get into the playoffs.
em650r
Have to trade Pujols before anything
junkmale
Yeah, good luck with that.
Miguel Jr
Who do you think is going to take dead weight! Even if the Angels were to pay the rest of his contract, no team would want him as any average minor league could probably outperform him!
refereemn77
No respectable front office would ever take Pujols… people take your medications!
#Fantasygeekland
You could make that argument for 30 teams in baseball… minus the trout part.
jorge78
The new normal…..
martiny44
Man the cost of them beers just keeps going up.
ABStract
What does this have to do with anything?
MrStealYoBase
“The Halos, he says, “could top” last year’s team-record payroll…”
In other news I could decide to have a ham sandwich for lunch tomorrow. I’ll be leaking hints to my decision to sources close to me. I might not be having a sandwich at all. Anyone who claims otherwise is just speculative b.s. especially if it’s Jon Heyman.
woodguy
But I heard the ham was raised in Philly so you MrSteal will sign with them…
xabial
Trout’s MLB’s undisputed best player. Yet LAA stuck middle. But they got the right GM for the job. I also believe in Ohtani
Mike's Trout
Smartest thing you’ve ever said.
xXabial
how can a smart person start with a sentence with the word “but”?
he’s still not smart only quotes from others
DarkSide830
Thanks for the grammer lesson, teach.
ellisburks
How can a smart person start a sentence without a capital letter?
Santee Alley
Delete first “with.” Quotation mark goes after the question mark.
ABStract
Seriously dragqueen?
You of all people are calling out grammar mistakes?
People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones
Miguel Jr
All of the sudden! How did professor Dragqueen went from talking baseball, to teaching grammar? LOL
Basebal101
Lol. I’m curious as to what you THINK is wrong with using “but” to open a sentence? As does my buddy who happens to be an English teacher I’m sitting here with.
sergefunction
You meant, “with whom I’m sitting”.
ChiSoxCity
Trout is not “far and away” the best player in baseball. Mookie Betts is a pretty close 1b.
ColossusOfClout
No, it’s NOT close! Trout has four 10+ WAR seasons in his 7 year career. Mookie has done it once in four.
andrewgauldin
Lol it’s a pretty damn close comparison. I think Trout will go down as the best player to ever live. But as of right now in 2019, Mookie Betts is a very close 2nd, and some may argue he is #1.
Fanof29teams
100% right.
andrewgauldin
Not comparison, meant ranking*
xXabial
mookie was never trout in the minors….he snuck through the draft to become something more. current…trout holds the crown however mookie is damn close.
ColossusOfClout
You’re nuts! There is not a single GM in the league who would take Betts over Trout and that includes the Red Sox.
Moneyballer
Trout > Betts — Sorry but Mike Trout is a once in a generation talent unrivaled in today’s game. This is a fact.
KnicksFanCavsFan
your are mindlessly insane and by into WAR waaayyyyy too much to claim he’ll be the greatest ever. so disrespectful of so many greats. Even before steroids Barryz Bonds was a better player. let alone Ted Williams, Hank Aaron, Willie Mays and Ruth.
ABStract
Why would the what they did in they did in the minors have any effect on their MLB stats?
Have something to say, stop posting just to post something
davidcoonce74
Nah. We’ll take these one by one: Bonds was an amazing hitter, with or without PEDs, but he’s not Trout. His defense wasn’t near Trout’s (although each has a weak throwing arm) And Bonds’ speed left pretty quickly. Williams, famously didn’t care at all about defense, and he wasn’t a great baserunner, and he basically didn’t really even like baseball. But he might have been the best pure hitter alive. Mays is probably the closest to Trout, and a good comp. Aaron too, except obviously Aaron’s defense wasn’t as vital because he was a corner outfielder. Ruth played in the segregation era, the game wasn’t nearly as competitive as it is now, and he was a fat guy who didn’t take care of himself in any way. Not a great comp for anything; Ruth was the best player who played in his era, but I think MLB in the 20s was a much worse product than baseball is now.
Cat Mando
“he was a fat guy who didn’t take care of himself in any way.” I see, despite your insistence that you know the history of the game, that you still hold to that narrative.
“To begin with, let me tell you this about Babe Ruth. He was not fat. And he did not have skinny legs. He had rather tapered ankles, that’s true. But . . . the calves of his legs were very good sized, and he was not fat. He had a big chest and he had a very small fanny and he was not big around the waist.”
“He was not a drunk, by no chance. He drank, and I guess at times he was drunk, but he was never, never was he, did he miss a game because of that or have a bad day because of it, never. Never. Never. Any of these lame-brains that write and talk on the air about fat, drunk Babe Ruth, that’s silly and ridiculous.”
~ Waite Hoyt, HoF and Ruth’s teammate
baseballhall.org/discover-more/stories/short-stops…
ChiSoxCity
Devoid of objectivity.
davidcoonce74
Babe Ruth wasn’t ever drunk at a game? May want to read Jane Lacy’s book about him. Also, Ruth missed most of an entire season because of an STD he contracted from the very many ladies of the night he frequented. Ruth was an incredible personality. A tremendous player. But let’s not whitewash him because it fits our narrative. .
davidcoonce74
Jane Leavy”s book. It’s amazing. And paints a very wonderful portrait of Ruth, while also acknowledging his drinking and womanizing and gluttony.
Fanof29teams
He is talking about right now and yes they are very close , I would bet mookies is going to be better for the next 5 ,7 yeras too.
Cat Mando
“I would bet mookies is going to be better for the next 5 ,7 yeras too.”
At just 27 years old I bet Mike does too.
thegreatcerealfamine
Yea you don’t try to compare a long resume of greatness(Trout), with a rather good small resume(Betts), and not come out being horribly wrong every time.
ChiSoxCity
Aww, hurt your feelings little guy? That’s ok, Trout can be your forever hero. *noogies*
Knowthemarket
No..Betts needs to do it again a few more times before we start talking about comparisons. You should have tapped the link to see Trout’s WAR. He was almost double the war of the next highest player, Josh Donaldson. After Trout, the difference between the next players are much closer. Betts isn’t even top 5
sheff86
Dude you need a check up.
its_happening
People having a fit over Betts as a 1b to Trout. Why?
If you’re using WAR as your rationale, leave the adult table and go back to the kids area.
Betts is the 1b, and it’s closer than you think. He’s great. Trout is great. Trout is 1A. Done.
Chicks Dig the Longball
Okay, if we can’t use WAR, what are you using to make that claim? You didn’t provide an argument at all. Is this just your feelings?
its_happening
Is this a real question? Isn’t it obvious? No? Ok, I’ll help you….
Homeruns, Runs, Hits, Batting Average, Hitting w/ RISP, RBIs (yes, you still need to drive in runs), Speed/Defense, should I continue? No, nevermind.
WAR, again, uses real numbers combine with hypothetical numbers (phony) to calculate Wins Above Replacement. Please stop. It is the work of fiction when you avoid using facts.
gstarrett
Lol dude it wasn’t obvious because WAR takes all those things into account. Sure, some WAR calculations have to make minor guesses but why that mean it’s not a good stat? It’s still calculated equally between 2 outfielders. You use WAR as a quick way to compare players overall. That way people can avoid listing every baseball stat like you just did.
therealryan
Here you go TR. Since 2016 here is a comparison of Trout and Betts.
Player A: .312/.447/.598/1.046, 185 OPS+, 180 wRC+, 101 HR, 14.1 AB/HR
Player B: .308/.379/.538/.917, 140 OPS+, 140 wRC+, 87 HR, 20.9 AB/HR
The funny part is WAR, a stat you bash as being nonsense, closes the gap between the two players more than their raw offensive numbers show. I would say look at this intelligently and tell me again that Player B is somehow an equivalent ball player. However, I’ve read your posts and am pretty sure intelligence isn’t your strong suit, but go ahead and keep being a donkey while talking down to people. I’m sure in your own head everyone else is wrong and you’re always right. It’s the way many insecure snowflakes think.
davidcoonce74
Trout also plays in a tougher park for hitters, although WAR does take that into account, as does wRC+. Trout is also, amazingly, only a year older than Betts despite having twice as many seasons in MLB.
Comment Section Mod
This times 1000 RealRyan. It’s too easy for people like this on anonymous websites like this.
its_happening
FakeRyan – if you could read, I said Trout is 1A. Betts being 1B. So you proved my point, which I had to point out to you because you’re too busy making a silly attempt at online insults.
The only snowflake here is you; intolerant to someone not buying into WAR. Then again why should I bother talking to someone who can’t be bothered to read. It did not take WAR to show me Trout is 1A. Obviously you needed it more than me.
its_happening
OfficialDipoto – So you’re the GM of the Seattle Mariners?
Saint Chris
Comparing Trout and Betts is unfair. Betts has had one truly superb season, while Trout has produced at a crazy level since day 1. Trout also plays the premium defensive position. Three years ago everyone was saying AJ Pollock was Mike Trout Lite. How did that turn out? I love Mookie Betts. He is an amazing player, but comping him to the best player of the last 20 years is unfair at this point. Let him have 2 or 3 more monster seasons and we can talk about it because there are 5 or 6 Mookie Betts level players in the league, and only 1 Mike Trout.
stan lee the manly
Not even close. Betts has to do this five more times before he’s even in the same conversation. Trout didn’t just dominate last year, he has CONSISTENTLY dominated his entire major league career. Anyone can have one great season, very few can do it over and over again. Trout’s consistency is what makes him the best player in the game.
yamsi1912
No, he’s not close.
andrewgauldin
As a Halo fan, I absolutely love Trout, and probably would cry to see him leave. However, it makes me drool thinking about the quality and quantity of prospects we could get for Trout. Let’s take for example the Atlanta Braves, what could the Halos ask for in a realistic trade? Getting Soroka would mean he’s our #5 starter, and very well could end up being our #2 by the end of the season. Plus Reilly? Well he’s our 3rd basemen for 6+ years. Pache? More time in the minors but combining him with Marsh, Adams, and Addell. Sheesh.
Idk what a realistic trade would be… any ideas?
cookmeister 2
Albies, Wright, Soroka, Pache, Reilly?
andrewgauldin
Lol I thinks that too much. Inciarte instead of Albies? Let’s be realistic. The angels SHOULD accept that in a heartbeat. But I can’t see that being offered by the Braves
davidcoonce74
I cannot imagine any trade with the Braves wouldn’t have to start with Acuna. If he’s off the table then no way they get Trout. Not that I think Trout will ever be traded….
lazorko
Exactly. Think about the absurdity of any team trying to trade for Mike Trout, and their pitch begins with “our player so-and-so is off limits.”
Angels response: “Okay, that’s fair, It’s perfectly reasonable that you regard your best asset as off limits. Now it’s our turn. Mike Trout is our off limits player. You can hang up the phone now.”
Vizionaire
keep drooling and your tongue may hang down 2 feet.
JJB
Any seven players in the entire organization. If anybody is “off limits” in trade talks, then they hang up.
bencole
Not for 2 years of him
Knowthemarket
I don’t think the Braves would do this trade. Just wanted to say that. That being said, if they did do it, I think the trade looks more like:
Wright or Soroka
Anderson
Pache
Gohora
Wilson
Not Riley because I think the Braves plans involve him. Not saying he would be off limits if the Angels insisted but I think the Braves would go another way and have the talent to offer to do so. Also, the Braves will want to keep one of Soroka or Wright and again, have the talent enough to do so.
I think this is what a package for two years of Trout looks like. The Braves don’t do it though, because they won’t sign Trout long term. Even for 20 WAR over two years it’s difficult for a team like the Braves to pay out that kind of prospect coin.
Cat Mando
“Idk what a realistic trade would be… any ideas?”
Any realistic trade would start with “Hey Mike, since we can’t extend you we have to get something in trade. Where would you consider going?”
He has a full NTC
Ohtani-san
I was legitimately wearing a halo’s onesie moments after my birth. I’ve been to at least 5 games a year, every year, for 20+ years. All that is to say, I’ve been a fan for a very long time… BUT if the angels fail to keep Trout, I’m done with this f*ckin team.
Cat Mando
Ohtani-san
You realize the final decision is Mike’s and not the team’s, right?
andrewgauldin
You’re a true fan aren’t ya?
Saint Chris
A Trout trade:
Inciarte
Camargo
Reilly
Soroka
Toussiant
Freid
An overpay, certainly, but to get the best you have to give up a lot. Camargo, especially hurts.
throwinched10
If the Angels don’t go deep into the playoffs this year, it probably eliminates them being able to sign Trout to an extension before next season. They should look to trade him at that point.
ColossusOfClout
Ya, that’ll work, but if they are out of the running by the deadline, they should at least look at offers.
GONEcarlo
Yep, those comments perfectly embody the cheapskate David Samson. That’s exactly how he ran the Marlins, except that their $555,000 Juan Soto turned out to be Jeremy Hermida, or some other prospect that never quite panned out.
andrewgauldin
Very easy to criticize David Samson without knowing the full story. #1 Samson isn’t the one giving out the money #2 this is how you run a business with payroll constrictions, Loria lost money when sold the team, it is his fault, he signed Stanton which was stupid, but he still lost money. #3 Samson is right about Soto and Harper comments.
I’m not pro owner or anything. But in the eyes of the owner, why in hell would I give Harper 30-40 million when I can have an OF of Eaton, Robles, Soto, Taylor for 10Million total, and for similar production. Please explain how paying Harper is any kind of a smart move when you have those 4 players for that cheap.
Fanof29teams
Free agent? Free to go where he wants , Soto isn’t , other teams are able to compete for his services , not for Soto , Apple and orange.
Chicks Dig the Longball
You don’t need to put a space before the comma.
Cashford64
What? Loria made a fortune selling the Marlins. And the Stanton contract was not stupid, at least not from the team’s perspective. It was heavily backloaded, meaning the whole time he was with the Marlins, they were getting him for a steal. Loria knew full well that Stanton would be long gone before he would be making any serious money.
Johan M
The Angels are one entire pitching staff away from making the World Series. But Arte has never wanted to spend big money on pitching, so I don’t expect Keuchel in red this spring.
The AL West has been deadly competitive for the past few years. The Angels don’t have a problem getting runs or on-base, their problem has always been holding a lead.
Saint Chris
The Angels have had terrible luck with pitching unjury. That doesn’t help.
throwinched10
The Nationals should forget Harper.
Soto, Robles, and Eaton is a solid outfield. They should use that money to upgrade at 1b either for 2019 or for 2020 (Goldschmidt) considering how inconsistent and injury prone Ryan Zimmerman is.
Saint Chris
Yep. Harper isn’t needed, I don’t think. And after watching him put up 2 war last year, the prospect of giving him a 10-year deal is scary.
ColossusOfClout
Los Angeles Angels of Las Vegas?
Vizionaire
i know you were born in mustang ranch.
Megatron2005
Trout is the only player in the league that deserves 300 million and beyond
bkbk
Angels fans don’t fret, the Heyman story is trash.
If you take a closer look, he’s at a new start-up (WTH is Fancred?) and probably under extreme pressure to get clicks. Here’s why.
Historically (since Arte took over) without exception, every single major free agent (Pujols, Hamilton, Wells, Wilson and the Simmonds Trade) have been pre-emtped by 0.0 rumors or rumblings and blindsided the press . The idea that suddenly this organization has sprung leaks flys in the face of a very long history. This is simply a a pre-emptive strike on an upcoming major story for clicks. Anonymous sourcing seems weak, especially the idea that a non-California dude suddenly is the only one hearing stuff.
The facts are Eppler was signed specifically 4 years before Trouts FA with the intent to sell the next 10 years to him more than anything. He’s done a great job (More below). Additionally Moreno is deeply insecure about his legacy as being seen as a “top owner” and personally meddled (Hamilton, Pujlos, Wells) and the idea that he wont spend event 45/yr to retain the best player of all time seems unlikely (remember the Angels have never been true sellers through the whole entire Moreno era). His nightmare would be to be the owner who lost the GOAT. Remember he outbid the Cardinals for Pujols.
Finally (this is my opinion from observation). Trout loves baseball and routine. He’s pretty unique amongst pro athletes in his lack of desire for “dat life” The Angels have an owner who spends, a great farm system and continuity. Given some elite prospects (Adell, Marsh Canning Jahmi), , about 120m off the books for Trouts FA year and Simmonds/Trout, the Halos are as well equipped as any to be relevant 2021-31.
Id bet a 10/380 with a 2 opt-outs gets a deal done,
bkbk
Ohtani!
zpgreen
Great thoughts here. Although, depending on what Harper and Machado sign for this year, I’m not even sure the total value needs to get to $380M. If Harper or Machado sign for $300 or less over 10 years, or even a shorter deal like $225M over 7 years, the Trout deal might only need to be like 8 years at $35M annually to lock him up. The Stanton contract is misleading because everybody sees the total value at $325M, but as I recall, there were no opt outs, which are becoming increasingly common and important in these long term mega deals. But also, the contract was for 13 years so you’re only talking about an AAV of $25M.
Fanof29teams
And trout will be older too.
Cat Mando
“The Stanton contract is misleading because everybody sees the total value at $325M, but as I recall, there were no opt outs,”
Stanton can opy put after 2020. If and only if he does then Miami pays them $30MM/year spread out over 2026-2028
Vizionaire
eppler has done a great job? news to me!
Ohtani-san
He has done a great job, actually. Don’t lose perspective. I’ve got two words for you: Tony Reagins
shibbynotdude
Isn’t ironic that Harper doesn’t like philly and Trout would love to play there…
someoldguy
Oh no the poor Angels, Oh No the Poor Dodger, oh no the Poor yankees, oh no the Poor cubs..etc…etc…etc… we can’t pay to have the best baseball players, we’ll pay to have cheaper teams with less talent and the fans will praise us for being cheep. But when it comes time.. we’ll beg for money from the Public because we can’t afford a new stadium.. after all our billions aren’t for spending on what makes us money.. oh poor us….
bush1
Baseball obviously isn’t like the NBA where one star can make that much of a difference to make a team great, and the Angels and their below average big league roster, and below average farm system are just set up poorly for Trout to ever win big with. The real question is why in the world Billy Eppler continues to laugh off any questions he gets about how he won’t even listen on a trade for Trout.
If they wait until next offseason only 1 year control of even the greatest player of this generation won’t bring that much back in a trade.
They should have looked to deal him last year with 3 years of control, and at a minimum looked to deal him this offseason. But no Eppler insists on wasting Trout with a big pile of mediocrity, and the Angels going no where again, with idiots like Harvey leading their rotation into the start of the year with the legend, Trout. What a waste…
GrandpaBaseball
Very well said, IMHO you see the big picture even when those will think it is unloyal to think to trade GOAT type player. My heart will break if and when we lose Trout as he is my favorite of all time that I have ever seen including the Mick. Further more I do not understand the relucdance to go over the cap for 2 or 3 years even with the penalty. The cable money should cover that. And the goal should be a pennant each season and make the playoffs like NYY, LAD, BOSRS. This idea of we cannot afford it is not the way I would go about it at all. If management continues to do business this way the Angels will be soon sold with Trout gone and our loyalties crushed leaving the fan base feeling robbed of what could have been. A team worth billions worried about millions to the debtrement of putting a great product on the field. Years from now Arte and all his bad choices will be studied to see how badly one sports team in a great market was run so bad.
bush1
Who knows if Trout would even accept an over the top extension. He’s the one player that can count on getting paid an enormous amount of money when he enters free agency regardless. And if he doesn’t like they way they Angels are set up to compete now and in the near future then he should wait and get paid massively where he wants. Personally I can think of about 20 other teams that are set up to compete in the near future better than the Angels.
Boogaloo
The angels really are a dumb organization.
Trout should have been traded last year, but they are so stubborn they’ll wait till his cake is the lowest possible.
The absolute best they can hope for this year is to get the second wild-card and play at yankees stadium or Fenway in a game they would be severe underdogs.
That’s if everything went right.
The team has no pitching, not much everyday young talent and an average farm system.
Trout is the only thing separating them from being one of the worst teams in the league.
I don’t care how good he is, you are not getting an amazing haul with one year left on his deal.
At some point hes got to be thinking about his legacy, and I don’t know of many players who want that to be as a guy who never played in big games.
It’s awful for the game to have him stuck there too, reminds me of guererro when he was stuck in Montreal.
He should be traded now at the very least, or the organization just gets worse off by the day.
Vizionaire
dumb fly!
Cat Mando
“I don’t care how good he is, you are not getting an amazing haul with one year left on his deal.”
He has two years left.
bush1
Right, but the Angels have made it clear they’re not trading him while he has two years left. If they do trade him it would be with 1 year left. I think that’s the point.
bkbk
BOOGALO MAD! BOOGALO WANT UPVOTE!
Ohtani-san
Dumb. You fail to realize what simply having trout on the field does for ticket sales and merchandise.
ohyeadam
So far as a players legacy is concerned, a lot can be said of a guy who stays with one team his whole career. It’s a rare thing nowadays and one of the main reasons I went to go see Joe Mauer play his last game. I would imagaine Pujols would do it over again if he could and stay in STL.
Melchez
The Angels need pitching. They don’t need Machado or Harper. They have enough hitting. These baseball experts complaining about teams not dumping infinite amounts of money at young players is idiotic. Why pay hundreds of millions of dollars for a player that would be your third best outfielder and probably your worst defensive player?
The team needs pitching, not Harper.
socraticgadfly
Why the Angels aren’t “in” on, say, Keuchel, who would be an upgrade over the current rotation, yet not too pricey, and would also “steal” a pitcher from a division opponent, is a head-scratcher to me.
Swinging Friars
That Wilson contract is probably still stinging a bit
GeoKaplan
Why aren’t the Angels “in” on Keuchel?
Because the reported contract expectations of Keuchel are not in alignment with the front offices of 30 professional teams.
Unless you’re insisting the Angels should just pay whatever Keuchel asks, because that’s just smart business.
GrandpaBaseball
They have 3 “hitters” presently that can be counted upon and one (Ohtani) is questionable. Hitters in todays game are as always are a commodity. Where are the black holes in the line ups of Houston or Boston or Yankees’s. Yes adding a Machado is just as important as adding more pitching. ………jeez
Luke Strong
The Angels must extend him, even if it means overpaying, he’s the best player in the history of the game, and it’s short-sighted to think only about the immediate when you are committing to a player for 8-10 seasons, during which time you hope to win 1 World Series. It would be inexcusable for the Angels to let him hit the open market, his value to the franchise is far greater than they are paying him, even at $35-$40m.
GrandpaBaseball
Money to be paid to Trout is not nor has been the issue. It is and has been about winning and clearly Arte, Bill, Tony Jedi, and Billy have come up on the short end.
Alan Grossman
Many Phillies fans never disappoint. They covet Trout and think they own him because he’s from their general area. Therefore, the Angels are “stupid” for just not giving him to the Phillies right now, dammit! The Angels pay Trout’s salary but they don’t own him, just his current MLB contract. It still has two more years on it, and his presence on the team sells tickets, concessions, and merchandise. Moreno and the Angels organization have been loyal to Trout and he just might decide to stay in Anaheim for his entire career. He is not pressured to do things he doesn’t want to do just because the MLB commissioner complains about him. When his family suffered a tragedy, the Angels gave Trout as much time off as he needed–during the season. Trout can walk down the streets of Southern California without having hundreds of fanboys wanting to sniff around him.. These things matter. Especially to someone like Trout who has his head screwed on straight. The Phillies owner wants to spend “stupid money” but the top free agents don’t seem to want it. Do you know why? Look in the mirror, boys…
theredsoxrule
Trout will NOT stay on a losing team they would have to outbid teams by A LOT to have him consider staying
fred-3
Phillies are a losing team though. Not just recently as well, they have a long history of losing.
TheZink
Maybe if the Angels change their town name again then Trout will stay. He’s a Phillie in 2 years. It where he always wanted to be. Can’t blame him an up and coming Phillies team or an Angel team with a 57 year old DH making $50m and a gimmicky two way player. That what the mirror says.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
In real economic terms, none of the big contract players are ever really worth the money.
Mike Trout is worth the money.
Keeping a future first ballot (possibly unanimous) Mt. Rushmore level Hall of Famer tied to (only) your organization is worth the money. Especially when he’s the only thing that keeps your team relevant.
To say nothing of the 7-10 seasons of elite baseball he still has left in him.
Moreno should offer $500 million over 10 years.
prov356
Another comment board filled with people who pretend to know the inner workings of the Angels front office and Trout’s mind. It’s all conjecture.
I’d like Trout to be a career Angel. I think the Angels will do what they can to make that happen. I believe that we will all know only when something actually happens. Any definitive statements made about Trout staying or going are just opinion, unless you are attending the meetings.
If you consider baseball is a business, no company would get rid of their best performer for a bunch of unproven replacements, or replacements who are known to be not as good. That’s my opinion.
GrandpaBaseball
If this was a “regular” business I certainally would concur with your post. The MLB teams are not “regular” business. Keeping Trout an Angel is a top priority for sure no doubt, but Trout has not been shy in conveying that he wants to be a winner by particapating on a winning team. Have the Angels complied? No. So why is it that the team will not spend the money? Apparently because Arte does not feel spending on free agents does nothing for the team. Albert, Hamilton, Mathews have not panned out well. Hunter worked out though. But I believe that the reluctance to spend will “doom” the Angels long term plans involving Trout. It’s not about the money to Mike, but in surrounding him with talent.
prov356
Hey Gramps! I know baseball isn’t a regular business, but it is a business. So I think my comparison is valid. I agree that Trout is watching what the Angels do to surround him with a winning team. I believe that will weigh heavily into his decision when the time comes. I think they have done a good job at finding affordable talent, and have done so intentionally because they want to have the money to retain Trout when it is time. The reason for their mediocrity over the recent past is pitcher injuries, and to a small extent a disappointing Pujols. Their record is different with a healthy rotation.
bradthebluefish
Ten year extension for $350 million. Start it today and Trout be locked up until 36. Sounds like a win for everybody. Securing Trout’s prime years without going into his late 30’s.
Cat Mando
He is making $34,083,000 this year and $34,085,000 nest year and you think they are going to offer a raise to $35MM?
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
I had a “putting things in perspective” moment…
Took a look at Mike Trout’s career stats just to be amazed. He’s now got seven full seasons and 40 games from his rookie season under his belt. He’s without a doubt the best player in baseball. He has produced over 64 WAR in those eight years and has a career .307 batting average in almost 1100 games.
So how hard is it to get 3000 hits in MLB? Trout has 1187. He needs to put up approximately TWELVE more seasons at that rate to get to 3000.
luclusciano
sure? I see that,.307 is based on 4,673 plate appearances. I think he will have 1600 more hits in 9 years. he could easily stay at 180 hits per season.
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
He could do that, no doubt. It’s going to be interesting to see how the best player of this generation reacts to time. He’s bound to have some dropoff at some point, isn’t he?
Y’know, just like they keep saying about Brady in football.
Adam6710
His value isn’t just in the raw # of hits. His elite defense, his power numbers, and intangibles like leadership ability and durability. He’s the rare player that is a combination of skill and leadership who makes those around him better by being the example to follow without being a Jeter-like d*ck about it.
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
Completely agree. The real appreciation of Trout comes from observing his entire game, as you said, and his character. Baseball could use many more like him.
of9376
Trout is done with The Angels. He has already aired his frustration with the team not spending and not having a playoff season.
Yankeepatriot
#freemiketrout
Michael Herman
I’m from philly and as great as having him would be, I think we all know money is what it’s going to come to. Nobody really ever cares about playing for their hometown. If someone gave him $500 million to play the next ten seasons in Antarctica he probably would.
Cat Mando
He may be one of the few who cares. I say that not because I am a Phillies fan, I say it because I understand the mindset…the people from that part of South Jersey. I grew up in a town even smaller than Millville and like Trout and everyone else in the area, of a certain age group, I was born in old Vineland hospital.
Trout won a Red Corvette for being AS MVP. It’s not with him in sunny Newport Beach, it was parked in his parents garage.
In 2016 he finally moved everything out of his parents house when he bought 300 acres of farm and woodland.
His wife Jessica who was his HS sweetheart, is a school teacher at Dennis Township Elementary School. I am sure he wouldn’t mind being able to see her more when school is in session.
Life there is different, it’s almost a throw back to another time.
If there was every a top tier player who would make a decision based on emotions it’s him.
Two likes to give you an idea…. nj.com/cumberland/index.ssf/2014/05/in_mike_trouts…
buzzfeed.com/lindseyadler/the-best-player-in-baseb…
I’m not some crazed fan boy, hell I am almost certainly older than Trout’s father. I just happen to read about things in Cumberland County NJ from time to time
Gary White
I think you are out of your mind… He’s happy at the beach? I think he would be happy winning in October/November than cruising the beach in Oct/Nov. He is a gamer and he wants to win. He makes enough money to go to any beach after the season. He could play in KC or STL and still go hanging at the beach. Dumb comment just dumb. Trout to the Lou baby… lol
Adam6710
Angels had a joke of an offseason. They have the best player of the past 25 years in his prime and they invest in reclamation projects like Matt Harvey.
This was a rare offseason where great players were available in free agency without requiring huge dollars or long term commitments. Perfect for a “win now” team. They should have signed Keuchel instead of Harvey. Happ instead of Cahill. Grandal instead of Lucroy, They should have signed Britton and Familia.
The AL West is weak. The Athletics may or may not be any better than 2018. The Mariners are rebuilding. The Astros are without 3/5ths of their rotation. This is the time to take a chance and strike on some 3-5 year deals.
Instead, they raided the bargain bin.
Their payroll will be among the top 10 in the game, they have the best player in the game, yet they’ll struggle to get a wild card spot.
NumberC
If I am Arte, I wish I was, I am building my entire pitch to Trout (other then the ridiculous amount of money that will be included) around the idea that the team is going to be getting a brand new gem of a stadium and Trout could be forever tied to it. You think of Fenway, you of think the Green Monster. You think of Wrigley, you think of the ivy. You think of Marlins Park, you think of that hideous fish statue thing in center. Imagine being tied to something as powerful as that kind of legacy.
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
However, please note your own comment. For all the greats who have played at Fenway and Wrigley (and even a few at Marlins Park), we remember the walls and the ivy and the weird statues… not the players…
NumberC
You make a good point. Unfortunately I am not smart enough to figure out how you would tie a players legacy to a stadium. Only stadium I can think of that follows my own examples would be Dodger stadium and Vin Scully. Obviously his legacy as a broadcaster can’t possibly be matched by any player in terms of length of years at the stadium.
baseballpun
Call the stadium the Trout Pond.
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
Well… Yankee Stadium is often referred to as “the house that Ruth built,” but outside of that, I’m with you. Aaron, Mays, Gibson, Koufax, Cobb… the all time greats rarely get associated with the stadium.
Saint Chris
Love it!
Adam6710
He’d laugh at that pitch. Name a player other than Babe Ruth who’s reputation and legacy are tied to a f%^&*ing STADIUM.
Trout wants to WIN. His reputation will be golden wherever he plays.
The only question he needs to ask is, does he want to be one of those players like Mattingly and Fisk who spend their whole career with one team and never win? Or does he want to be like Wade Boggs who went to another team to get a ring?
its_happening
Carlton Fisk played for 1 team his entire career? Which team, Boston or Chicago? He played for both.
Adam6710
The Sox.
Cat Mando
Did anyone tell him he was playing for the wrong team for 11 or 13 years?
John Egan
those big rocks in left-center?
dirkg
If the Angels were strictly looking to make a business decision, the decision is to sign Harper and trade Trout for the largest pitching haul out there. The franchise face would switch to Harper and you still have your nationally known Halo. You also have Ohtani, Odell in the coming years and a boatload of pitching. The Halos are set. THEREIN LIES THE POWER OF TROUT…that business decision is hard to make because hes a once in a generation player and will go down as an all time great. You want that player associated with your team and not become another Curse of the Bambino.
ryeandi
Extend him now or trade him now. No team is going to obliterate their farm system for one year of Trout, even if he is the best ever. Any team serious about acquiring Trout know they’d be better served to wait out the year and offer the truly enormous sum he deserves to have him for the rest of his career.
Saint Chris
Trout is already paid. He’s not eager for another extension. He will test free agency.
bobtillman
Doesn’t the CBA expire at the same time Trout/Betts become Free Agents?
Here’s what’s going to happen:
2019: Owners artificially suppress the Harper/Machado gang
2020: Owners artificially suppress the Arenado gang
2021: Somebody gives Trout 50M/year, Mookie 45M/year (flip those names if you like). Then the owners cry “We just gave a guy HALF A BILLION DOLLARS to hit a baseball; and THEY WANT TO STRIKE?????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!”
Frankly I think it’s already been decided. Who gets who? You REALLY think the 30 Lords care? If the owners of the Rays/Reds, etc. all get richer because some team increases the value of their franchise by increasing the value of the “brand”, they’re not staying up nights worrying about it.
Cat Mando
The CBA runs 2016 through 2021
macstruts
They are not “artificially” suppressing their salaries.
Harper has been the 17th best player WAR in baseball the last five years and he wants to be the highest paid.
Machado played like a Jerk last October. And anyone who spikes firstbaseman on their way to first is a jerk.
Arenado’s salary is not going to be depressed. He’s Machado without the attitude and two bad knees.
Adam6710
Arenado may struggle for a different reason. Splits or not, there will be hesitancy to take a big time hitter out of Coors field. The history of that move isn’t great.
Swinging Friars
Holliday and Walker might disagree with you
davidcoonce74
Vinny Castilla and Dante Bichette say hello.
prov356
Bob – Unless you attend the meetings, your comment is meaningless. You don’t know what’s going to happen.
DadsInDaniaBeach
Casey?
Cat Mando
Hmmmmmmm? LOL
AtomsAnts
Trout takes a Gulfstream and gets from OC to NJ in 4 hours. A multi millionaire can work and live where ever he wants. If his wife likes SoCal, he’s staying there.
socraticgadfly
Oh, a happy belated birthday to Pujols, who allegedly turned 39 yesterday. 40? 41, Bueller?
Ohtani-san
I’ve met him on multiple occasions. I would estimate he just turned 43
davidcoonce74
I’m stunned this is still a narrative. Post 9/11 it’s nearly impossible to lie about your age. There isn’t a shred of proof that Pujols is older than his listed age, but this absurd theory is still out there.
sufferforsnakes
I’m just happy that I’ve gotten to see him play in person. Incredible ball player who gives his all.
macstruts
Trout is going to play where he wants to play and sign the biggest contract in History.
Betts is going to pay where he wants to play and sign the second biggest contract in HIstory.
Anyone know where that is? I don’t.
Yankeepatriot
Votto’s prime years were already wasted in Cincinnati and trouts will be too if he doesn’t leave Anaheim at this rate. He deserves better
Saint Chris
Votto and Cinci had a short stretch when they were competitive, and it looks like they’re trying to improve now.
RustyBridges
I hope the Angels can resign Trout, but not at the organization’s expense. I would rather have a great team rather than one great player. Obviously having a great player doesn’t make a great team. The Angels are still recovering from crap contracts and bad trades. I think Eppler is doing a better job than Reagins and Dipoto by far. As a fan I want to see my team win, but I’m tired of how they have been going about it. The 2002 Angels had a lot of solid players and no off the charts superstars. They beat a Giants team that was a better team on paper and it included Barry Bonds. I hope Trout stays an Angel, but my gut says he wants to be close to home. I’ve already started the mourning process…if the Angels went out and got Arenando next year it might make Trout’s departure a little easier 🙂
Saint Chris
Can Arrenado hit outside of Coors?
RustyBridges
He can hit, not as well. Dude you deflated my wish ;(
I found this on baseball-reference.com
Split G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA
Home 80 78 330 288 64 100 23 2 23 62 1 2 38 53 .347 .
Away 76 76 343 302 40 75 15 0 15 48 1 0 35 69 .248 .
Saint Chris
If the Angels were looking to increase payroll and their biggest need is pitching, why wouldn’t they have gone after some of the solid veterans that signed 2-year deals like Charlie Morton or JA Happ?
prov356
They did and lost out to other teams.
Thurman8er
Some thoughts from an Angels fan:
It is a joy to get to watch Trout play every day. Most fellow fans I talk to say they expect this to be his last full season with the team. We know he wants a ring and don’t blame him for it. He is a Philly fan and could well sign with that team. BUT he is also happy with the Angels and it wouldn’t shock me to see him stay.
That will only happen if Trout sees a championship in the future. Those people who are lamenting the Angels horrible off-season seem to be forgetting that the off-season isn’t over yet. If the pitching staff is improved now–and possibly during the season as well–Arte might be able to convince Trout to stay.
Either way, we will continue to watch the greatest player of our generation, while rooting for the Angels because, well, that’s what fans do.
Wolf Hoffmann
The Angels can’t trade Trout. The fans would have no reason to go to the games. They will hold on to him and hope they can re-sign him. It is their only option. Prospects are fun but Trout is the best player in baseball and is in his prime. Does Arte really want to see Trout inducted into the HOF wearing a Philly jersey? It would be worse than Piazza with the Dodgers.
Swinging Friars
Arte has shown the willingness to spend on the big name. No reason to think he won’t with Trout. Besides, If he runs low on funds he can just attach another big name city to the moniker and squeeze out a few extra mil!
GrandpaBaseball
Quite a few of us have the same gut wrenching feeling in the pit of our stomach that Mike Trout may move his game else where. Generational player unlike we have ever seen in the last almost 50 years. I will also move my alligence for a while at least. My dissappoint in Moreno will last. I wish he’d sell the team now. Maybe a new owner would make Trout a deal he can’t refuse…….lol
Mark Smith
Arte needs to get back to wanting to win instead of just being happy with selling three million tickets. If he lets Trout get away he won’t be selling three million tickets anymore. He’ll be the most hated owner in sports. It sure seems like Major League Baseball right now is behind a lot of tampering though. They should be warning everyone. Are the Phillies paying Jon Heyman to write lies so they can steal Trout? It looks like it.
Mark Smith
The Angels have plenty of money. The fake tax amount is $206 million. They’re around $40 million under that. Their TV deal pays most of their payroll. That’s $150 million. All teams I believe get $100 million from the Fox and ESPN deals. Arte Moreno needs to stop being cheap and worrying about a profit. He has to give Trout whatever it will take. I doubt Trout will demand that much. The Angels can’t let him get to free agency. The real big market teams don’t let their stars get away. Does Arte want the Angels to go back to being a small market team? Right now he sells three million tickets per season. If he lets Trout get away he can kiss that goodbye.
KENNETH A LICHTIG
We are nearly a month before Pitchers and Catchers report to Spring Training. Harper and Machado remain unsigned. My theory is that the other 29 General Managers and Owners seeing what happened to the Angels when they signed Albert Pujos to a 10 year contract. They are handcuffed financially with Moreno scared to commit to any Superstar Free Agents. The Angels are set with their 40 Man Roster. They in the Front Office are hoping the Farm System will come through in 2019.
As for Mike Trout, he is a keen observer watching what happens with Machado/Harper’s 2019 Contract signings.
Mark Smith
The Angels aren’t handcuffed. They can spend $40 million more than they spend every season. The problem is 100% Arte Moreno. He thought he knew what he was doing so he wasted a lot of money on players like Vernon Wells, Pujols and Hamilton. The Angels didn’t need any of those players. A smart owner hires smart baseball people and stays out of the way. The owner should give the baseball people the money they need to get the right players. Now Arte is turning into a cheapskate who won’t spend money on the right players.
angelsfan1522
If any person actually thinks the angels trade trout in the next two year with out him forcing the issue then you aren’t that smart. The angels mainly arte Moreno do not want to go down as the team that trades trout plus trout is going to sign an extension with angels. They’ve been waiting for machado and Harper sign then he will become the highest player in the game
SillyBilly
Wow… You sound really smart, do you work in the front office? LOL
doug4848
Mike not stay here we can’t even put a pitching staff together we have a gm that love tommy John guys and this guy was Brian Cashman‘s mentor he a joke he not fooling any one if we trade mike to the Mets we can get Jacob Wheeler and and 2 top aaa guy and then sign AJ Pollock But no we will hold on to him and get nothing
prov356
Huh?
SillyBilly
How ya been Phil? (SP)
Angellfan
Mr. Trout is the best player with a 64.0 WAR. Amazing, Attending games at the Big A over the last eight years and watching Trout hit, run and throw has been a tremendous joy for my family and me. I hope both the Big A and Mr. Trout stick around. If they both move, then I’ll just go to the third oldest stadium in MLB and watch the Dodgers.