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NL Notes: Harper, Machado, Rendon, Cubs, Mets

By Jeff Todd | January 7, 2019 at 8:45pm CDT

As outfielder Bryce Harper prepares to sit down with the Phillies, still-early intrigue seems to be brewing in his market. Notably, the Philadelphia organization has yet to make any formal offers to Harper, per NBC Sports Philadelphia’s Jim Salisbury, who notes it’s still not certain whether the team will do so. As has long been rumored, Manny Machado is still the apparent top choice of the Phils brass. Notably, per Salisbury, the club is “expected to make another offer” to Machado this week as his own market continues to develop.

  • Of course, Harper’s long-time club in D.C. still has interest in a reunion, with some intriguing recent information emerging of late. But that drama may be overshadowing an equally important aspect of the Nationals’ offseason: the possibility of a deal with pending free agent Anthony Rendon. As Jesse Dougherty of the Washington Post writes, this Friday’s deadline to swap arbitration salary submissions may push the sides to think hard about the broader contractual situation. If talks on a long-term deal are progressing, perhaps the sides won’t bother trying to nail down a 2019 salary at this point. If not, they could well focus more energy on settling on an arb number before the exchange deadline. Beyond that, of course, there’s the question of Harper’s status and how it’ll tie into that of Rendon — who’s also a client of agent Scott Boras.
  • If all that’s not intriguing enough, the conflicting signals surrounding the Cubs’ interest in Harper remain an oddity of the winter. Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic weighs in on the matter in a subscription post, suggesting there’s no reason to believe there’s a match. Indeed, per Rosenthal, the Chicago front office is so strapped for 2019 payroll space that it more or less can’t make any further acquisitions without clearing the cash to do so. The example he gives is reliever Adam Warren, the former Cubs hurler who performed better after his departure from the club. While Warren is certainly deserving of a MLB job and guaranteed money, there’s no reason to think he’ll be a particularly expensive player. As Rosenthal notes, there are still some available ways for the Cubs to clear salary space, though most would seem to involve weakening the MLB roster. Affording Harper, then, would seemingly require a change of heart from ownership or some true creativity.
  • As Mets GM Brodie Van Wagenen continues to tinker with the club’s 40-man roster, Rosenthal adds, it’s possible there’ll be a few more departures. Backstops Travis d’Arnaud and Tomas Nido have drawn interest and could follow Kevin Plawecki out the door. In such a scenario, it seems, the Mets would go onto the open market for another catcher. Dumping d’Arnaud would have the added benefit of clearing some real payroll space, though obviously a replacement would cost something as well.
  • Notably, as he continues to seek ways to upgrade the Mets bullpen, Van Wagenen seems largely to have run through his available funds, per Mike Puma of the New York Post (Twitter link). It seems the organization will mostly be bargain-hunting the rest of the way. That also explains the fact that the Mets have seemingly bowed out of the market for expensive outfielders. Per Andy Martino of SNY.tv, via Twitter, the club isn’t shopping Juan Lagares in trades — though a deal still hasn’t been ruled out entirely — and expects him to line up in center field, where he’ll be supplemented by the just-acquired Keon Broxton. Presumably, Broxton will also spell the team’s left-handed-hitting corner outfielders as well.
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  1. RIPprosports

    6 years ago

    Where is a Yankee fan to turn this into an article about them?

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    • nymetsking

      6 years ago

      right below.

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      • xabial

        6 years ago

        Sorry about your Mets.

        Seriously… Condescension aside, Sorry

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    • fox471 Dave

      6 years ago

      He will be right here. Finishing up the NY Rangers game.

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  2. xabial

    6 years ago

    Phillies sign Machado, Yankees pivot and sign Harper.

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    • Syndergaarden Cop

      6 years ago

      you again. *grabs popcorn, watches downvotes accumulate*

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      • xabial

        6 years ago

        losers who downvote posts without reading them should be last to talk

        No one devaluates downvotes more than you

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        • wrigleywannabe

          6 years ago

          Who said they aren’t reading them?

          Any loser who freaks out over being down voted deserves those votes.

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        • xabial

          6 years ago

          He said it himself

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        • BlueJayFan1515

          6 years ago

          You comment on posts without reading them, what’s the difference?

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        • HardWorkingAmerican

          6 years ago

          I value down votes more than up votes. It means people value your opinion enough to disagree.

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        • fox471 Dave

          6 years ago

          What the heck are down votes?

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        • joepanikatthedisco

          6 years ago

          Hey Xabster your comments aren’t as bad as people think (IF they are on topic) but seriously, how vain do you have to be to change your profile pic every five days?!

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        • sam 17

          6 years ago

          Not available on app

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      • chitown311

        6 years ago

        Syndergaarden Cop, I will always upvote you strictly based upon your screen name. In other news, I will always downvote Xabial because of his screen name, without reading his rag comments.

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        • chitown311

          6 years ago

          K.

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    • ChiSoxCity

      6 years ago

      And the world slips a little deeper into darkness.

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  3. goldenmisfit

    6 years ago

    Never seen such a cheap organization in such a big market like the Mets

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    • Strike Four

      6 years ago

      They literally just took on Cano’s money. They also pay Cespedes $30M a year.

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      • xabial

        6 years ago

        Mets had zero money guaranteed to players following the end of the 2020 season.

        They were in a position to absorb 5 years $100M owed to a 36 year old baseman, off PED suspension — They dumped Bruce/Swarzak contracts making it worth less

        Mets are a disgrace to NY.

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        • kgreenb363

          6 years ago

          Terrible owners and most Mets fans agree

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        • mb22

          6 years ago

          They had the opportunity to re-shape the organization and provide a true stud every day player not yet even in their prime in Harper or Machado, given the fact they have no one signed past 2020… they’d rather pay an aging PED guy and lock him up for 5 years rather than sign one of the big-name, franchise-altering studs to what wouldn’t be a crazy amount more annually .. I cannot stomach these owners anymore .. they are once again looking to build the team on SP when we’ve all learned you cannot do that with power pitchers .. I pray that when Fred Wilpon finally dies, Jeff is overwhelmed and sells immediately

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        • NewYorkMetropolitans

          6 years ago

          you’re a disgrace to yankees fans. Mets aren’t a disgrace. Ownership is. This is why no one respects your opinion. Know it all millennial attitude

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        • mikeyank55

          6 years ago

          Calm down metropolitans. It’s not disrespecting Mets fans per se, it’s calling out the blind loyalists who deny then reality of the Wilpon ownership. Mutt and Jeff have raped this franchise’s fans for decades with a make believe system of investment. If you can accept that then say so, however don’t defend it.

          PED’s aside, they swapped out a few shorter term bad deals for a longer one that is attached to a player who is in the downside of productivity. A former top offensive performer at a position that made him a star, as his bat continues to SLOW down he will be an average offensive performer in a position (1B) that requires a top player.

          Cano should have stayed in the AL to become DH, however there were NO TAKERS. Wagon Wheel was so anxious to make his signature big move that he choked.

          Without money for a serious outfield bat there’s nobody to bat behind Cano. Just listen to the Mets announcers repeat, “strike three on a pitch low and outside the strike zone for Cano”.

          So are you blindly loyal, or willing to admit the reality metro?

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        • JustOnePitch

          6 years ago

          If you combine sentence fragments with the lack of capitalization and punctuation, you end up with an aspiring millennial that knows it all!

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        • ACK

          6 years ago

          “Mets are a disgrace to NY.”

          Question, which NY baseball team last went to the World Series?

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        • mikeyank55

          6 years ago

          You are right ACK.

          By the way where did you get the cool shirt with the slogan, “Almost WS Champions-2015/2000”.

          Nobody remembers the losers, except Mets fans who have nothing to cling onto since 1986, right?

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      • El Kabong

        6 years ago

        Argh! Another person who uses the word “literally” when it is not needed. These people are everywhere.

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  4. Strike Four

    6 years ago

    Angels gotta be the out-of-nowhere dark horse for Harper.

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    • Rex Block

      6 years ago

      That would certainly be out of nowhere.

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    • alt2tab

      6 years ago

      I think it’s more likely they’d be a dark horse for machado instead of Harper. They have more organizational outfield depth and pretty much no one significant waiting in the wings at third base. Still, I think it’s unlikely they sign either given the priority of re-signing Trout which will cost roughly $40 mil per season

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    • Michael Chaney

      6 years ago

      They already have Upton and Calhoun flanking Trout in the outfield, and all three of those guys already make a ton of money. Calhoun didn’t have a great year, but he’s still expensive and their best option is to hope for a bounce-back season. So there’s no use for Harper unless they’d play him at first (which would be a huge waste) and they’re already stuck with Pujols and Bour there anyway. They could DH either of those guys, but Ohtani is their DH while he rehabs.

      Not to mention the fact that they need to save some money to prepare a massive contract for Trout two years from now; Trout and Harper alone would probably account for a little under half of the Angels’ theoretical payroll down the line, and cutting corners with the rest of the roster is how they’re stuck in mediocrity right now anyway.

      The Angels have made shortsighted moves in the past so I guess you can’t put it past them, but signing Harper doesn’t make any sense for them at all.

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      • sithdude

        6 years ago

        I agree on Harper being of no use, I do think Machado would be a good fit if he would go to 3rd. Really they could sign Machado and extend Trout putting them over the 206 but reset it after Pujols comes off the books. At that point the farm should be giving options, hopefully, to fill holes and balance the team out. With Trout, Upton, Ohtani, Simmons, and Machado and a bounce back year from Calhoun the lineup would look solid. With that lineup the pitching staff just needs to be healthy and stay under a 4.5 era (realistic?). But I’m an Angels fan so just dreaming our major improvements this year isn’t the signings of Lucroy, Bour, Harvey, and Cahill lol

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        • alt2tab

          6 years ago

          Financially, I just can’t see it. But who knows…I was shocked to hear they were offering 12-14 mil to Britton given all their other roster holes and limited payroll flexibility

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        • urnuts

          6 years ago

          The Angels will not sign any big name FA and as an Angels I hate to say this but Trout most likely is gone. Here is a crazy thought;

          Trade Trout to Philly or Cleveland . From Philly ask for Nola, Herrera, another top prospect or two for Trout. Sign Machado for 8 years 240 million, and A.j. Pollock. Or from Cleveland Bauer and Kluber. signing Machado and Pollock.

          Biggest issue for the Angels, they need a#1 SP and 3b.

          Without starting pitching they will not be going anywhere and signing 2 projects SP who are at best #3 SP to 1 year deals tells me if they don’t come through next offseason the Angels will be in a youth movement

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        • Michael Chaney

          6 years ago

          Honestly, I think you’re underselling Trout, if anything. There’s obviously *no chance* that they’d trade him, but if the cost of a theoretical Trout trade was “only” Kluber and Bauer, you’d probably have to do it at that point. Again, I’m totally speculating and just going with the flow of your comment, but Trout/Lindor/Jose together would be absolutely bonkers.

          He’s a 10 win player for each of the next two years; I can’t even begin to imagine what a legitimate trade for him would look like.

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        • urnuts

          6 years ago

          Agreed that it would take more to trade him and I prefer that he becomes a lifetime Angel, but I question the moves at the moment and if they don’t workout he is gone. A fact that is hard to deal with.

          They need pitching and it is not happening.

          Another option is trading Simmons for at least a number two SP and move Cozart to SS and sign Dozier to play 2b.

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        • debubba

          6 years ago

          It’s okay. Once Trout leaves you have 40 year old Pujols using crutches at 1b. You can always “ lean” on him.

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        • sithdude

          6 years ago

          Ouch lol. Good pun. Seriously though I respect Albert it’s sad to see superstars in decline, and with him it happened pretty darn fast. Was hoping to see him hit 700 but now hoping since the money is spent anyways maybe he can step aside like Ichiro did some special team role.

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        • Michael Chaney

          6 years ago

          I actually think there’s a clause in his contract that he’ll become a special assistant or something after he’s done playing, if I remember correctly

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        • Cat Mando

          6 years ago

          10-year, $10M personal-services contract once he retires.

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        • alt2tab

          6 years ago

          I just don’t think a trade of Trout is ever going to happen. But Eppler is in a tough spot because he knows he will never get equal value if he trades Trout but he also wouldn’t want to lose Trout for nothing. It’s really a no-win situation

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        • sithdude

          6 years ago

          I totally forgot he had that in his contract….wow. $354m total for Pujols. I know $254 is his player’s contract but putting it in perspective the $354m is $1m short of the record $355 Stanton signed.

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      • allweatherfan

        6 years ago

        I knew there’d be a bounce-back candidate.

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    • El Kabong

      6 years ago

      Angels are already near the luxury threshold.

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      • urnuts

        6 years ago

        The Angels projected payroll will be around $165 million and the MLB threshold is $206 million. They have had a self imposed payroll of $165-167 million over the past few years. So if they wanted to increase and stay under there is room. But this will only add if in contention come July.

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      • laausc

        6 years ago

        According to Cots the Angel’s are $42 million below the cap of 206 million with their AAV …

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  5. baseballlegend1910

    6 years ago

    Good example on Warren and definitely deserving of an MLB job indeed.

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  6. Lefty_Orioles_Fan

    6 years ago

    If the Phillies are smart, they sign Harper! It’s that simple
    Machado is a waste of time, money, and effort.
    As a side note, I think the White Sox are going to wind up with Machado.

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    • RIPprosports

      6 years ago

      It’s not if they are smart, it’s if he wants to play for them.
      Machado is a drama queen, Good luck to whatever team signs him.

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      • timpa

        6 years ago

        Machado is a drama queen, but Bryce Harper isn’t exactly mr. Lunchpail either

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    • trout27

      6 years ago

      The Phillies can be smart and still not sign Harper. If Harper is intent on signing with the Dodgers then Boras will use the Phillies to drive the price up. He won’t sign with the White Sox and the Yankees don’t need him. It will be interesting to see if Boras can negotiate a deal similar to Kikuchi’s with opt outs and an add on possibllity. That would bring a lot more teams into the arena.

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      • El Kabong

        6 years ago

        Friedman is too smart to fall for that.

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  7. jvent

    6 years ago

    The Mets should get the 75% of Wright’s contract from the insurance co.,plus $$ from insurance from Cespedes not playing is enough for Machado for this year at least. Than trade Frazier,Lagares and daraund to free up some more $$, I would love to trade Cano and let Mcneil and JD Davis take over 3b Machado playing ss with Rosario playing 2b.

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    • trout27

      6 years ago

      No one else would take Cano unless the Mets paid down most of the contract. Frazier and Lagares don’t return much either. The trade for Cano was a strange way to fill second base and closer. They could have signed any number of guys to play second and there were closers available without giving up prospects. Of coourse in the weak NL East they have a shot to win it.

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      • Jbigz12

        6 years ago

        They only owe cano 60 million. I think you could find a team who would take 35-40 million off of that deal if it meant sending no assets over. He’s still a productive player and at that price you can afford to eat the contract on the back end. I think people are assuming that 60 million dollars to cano is all bad money. I think if he were a FA today he’d be looking at a 2/30 minimum.

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        • Cat Mando

          6 years ago

          jbigz12……Don’t forget, when they traded for Cano they also acquired his full NTC.

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        • Willy Mays

          6 years ago

          How do they only owe Cano 60 million.He’s owed 120 million and Seattle gave the Mets 20 million. That equals 100 million

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        • Jbigz12

          6 years ago

          Minus Bruce/Swarzak’s guaranteed deals. Sorry, that was unclear. They owe a net of 60 assuming those 2 had zero trade value. Which was close to the truth. I don’t think they could’ve gotten anyone to take more than a couple mill off those two.

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        • Jbigz12

          6 years ago

          You’re right CM. That’s certainly another consideration. Makes it tougher to move him.

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    • Danny B.

      6 years ago

      @jvent

      The Mets don’t want Machado and guess what, most Mets fans don’t want him either. Manny is a bum!!!

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      • mikeyank55

        6 years ago

        Hey Danny—if Manny is a bum, then Robbie is a PED bum.

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    • debubba

      6 years ago

      Can you find the article and post it? Since he came back and played and because he didn’t retire due to medical issues, I’m not sure how that works. I would love to read more about this. I know Brandon Roy cost the blazers several millions because he played a certain amount of games after the blazers released him for medical issues.

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  8. Thronson5

    6 years ago

    I’m confused as to what has taken the Phillies all the way up until Saturday to sit and talk with Harper. Is that normal? Seems like lately these big free agents aren’t gaining as much interest as they thought they would because of their crazy demands as far as years and overall money. I guess I get it, they are going for a 13-14 year deal worth 400 million but if someone comes in like the Dodgers and offers 6 years but it’s like double the amount annually you would be getting for the 14 year deal, why wouldn’t you take it? Harper is 25 or 26 I believe isn’t he? He’d still be able to get another contract at the end of it

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    • RIPprosports

      6 years ago

      Stop mentioning Dodgers with Harper. Absurd

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      • Thronson5

        6 years ago

        Why is it absurd? Please explain to me why it’s absurd.

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    • justacubsfan

      6 years ago

      Lol dude… so dodgers offering double the salary of the 14yr 400mil contract but for 6 years. You know how dumb that is right? 400/14 approx 29MM, which means they’ll pay 60 MM per year for 6 years? Lol c’mon bro

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      • Thronson5

        6 years ago

        Am I the one who offered that or who is reporting that they offered that or suggesting that they offer that? That’s just what’s been said..I keep reading that they offered some crazy amount or were only interested in offering some crazy amount annually at less years like 6 years maybe 7 tops.

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    • cards81

      6 years ago

      All the way up till Saturday? Every GM was smart and let Harper and Boras know their demands were ridiculous…when reports of Harpers market declining the Phillies finally understood what a resonable offer was and probably going to blow that away to get him

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      • Thronson5

        6 years ago

        Just seems like his market and the market for Machado is slow compare to what everyone made it out to be before free agency started..all I was trying to say.

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  9. allweatherfan

    6 years ago

    Yankees, bounce back candidate…

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  10. curlydub

    6 years ago

    Most Nats fans would like to keep Harper and Rendon—and though it is not out of the question— it seems most likely that they can only keep one. If that is the case, Rendon is my guy. No question. Stays out of the limelight, takes ownership of his mistakes, leads quietly, and possesses a disproportionate humility to that of his on-field performance.

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    • Papabueno

      6 years ago

      I agree 100%. Rendon, IMO, is one of the top 3B in the game but gets overlooked a lot. Unlike Harper, Tony Two Bags is consistently good and totally a team player.
      We have a very good outfield without Harper (Soto, Robles, Eaton) but we’d be hurting at the hot corner without Rendon, not to mention the money saved.
      Let Harper’s big deal handcuf some other team. He’s just not consistently good enough to justify $300+M. Sorry.

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  11. wrigleywannabe

    6 years ago

    How many ways, in how many posts can it be said that Harper is not going to the Cubs? He never was.

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    • dray16

      6 years ago

      wait, what?!?

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    • chitown311

      6 years ago

      But Bryant and Harper were friends when they were 11! And the Cubs “print” money!!

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      • mga2q7

        6 years ago

        They are still best friends, but by all means dont let that get in the way of your narrative!

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    • megaj

      6 years ago

      I hope you’re right. If the Cubs do sign him, then you would lose all credibility on this board of incredibly intelligent and savvy baseball analysts.

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  12. Ruben_Tomorrow 2

    6 years ago

    Mets could’ve cleared payroll by nontendering d’Arnaud. Unless they think they can get a decent return for him, which is highly unlikely, it made no sense bringing him back. Should’ve saved the money for Martin Maldonado if he’d be willing to a backup.

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    • Danny B.

      6 years ago

      @Ruben_Tomorrow

      This is just my opinion but, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Mets trade d’Arnaud for a couple of prospects to help replenish the system and then sign Martin Maldonado to backup Ramos. Ramos always needs a couple of days off a week and will probably top out at 110 gms of quality production. Maldonado can play the other 52 gms Ramos is resting and provide exceptional defense behind the dish.

      I have a feeling the Mets are going to do something like that. No one is rushing to sign Maldonado because he’s only viewed as a defensive catcher but with the Mets already having an elite offensive catcher, maybe having a premier defensive one as a backup is a great idea. What do you think???

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      • Ruben_Tomorrow 2

        6 years ago

        Maldonado would be a perfect complement to Ramos, but I think it could be too good to be true. As for d’Arnaud, he’s not replenishing a farm system unless you’re looking for low level prospects or lottery tickets at best. I’m not sure he even returns a top #5 organization prospect on even the worst of farm systems. At this point in d’Arnaud’s career, he’s not much more than a lottery ticket for any team acquiring him. He’s a marginal hitter that doesn’t have a position. I think Tampa would be perfect for him. They can plug him in at DH, so he doesn’t have to catch, and see if that can jumpstart his hitting. He has shown he can hit, but it was only for half a season and after a demotion.

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        • Danny B.

          6 years ago

          @Ruben_Tomorrow

          Of course d’Arnaud won’t get the Mets quality prospects. He wouldn’t even get the Mets a teams top 20 prospect. I meant lower level prospects. At this point, the Mets could use quantity for their farm over quality. Worry about getting quality prospects through the draft & International market.

          Tampa would be a good fit. The Ray’s could pair d’Arnaud with Zunino. How about this proposal:

          Rays get: Travis d’Arnaud

          Mets get: Colin Poche(LHP) & Tyler Frank(2B/SS)

          These are the Rays #24th & #27th ranked prospects respectively, so not all that valuable. Also, the Mets could give Poche a shot in spring training to be a lefty out of the bullpen. What do you think???

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  13. Dallas Mets

    6 years ago

    Brodie, to make a statement as a the new GM in town, should try to persuade the Wilpons or should I say Coupons, if there All in to win,then show manny the money!

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    • CircleJerkManiac

      6 years ago

      The only man who ever got the Wilpons to spend was Bernie Madoff.

      I do think they’ll spend a little more this offseason. The NY writers always say they don’t have anything left to spend until the Mets sign someone, then they wait a week, and start saying it again. They did this last year before the Bruce signing.

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    • Danny B.

      6 years ago

      @Dallas Mets

      Bro, Manny sucks!!! Anyone willing to give that guy a 8-10 year deal is both desperate & stupid. Machado has ALWAYS been a “me” players, he’s dirty and cares nothing about team concepts. If the Mets were actually willing to spend big, I would rather them sign Nolan Arenado after the 2019 season.

      I’m actually hoping above hope that the Yankees sign Machado. Please LORD let that happen because not only will Manny be a bust in the Bronx, they won’t go after Arenado next season either.

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      • Yankeepatriot

        6 years ago

        You only say he sucks because you know your team won’t get him

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        • Danny B.

          6 years ago

          Bro, if you don’t like my comment, that’s one thing but don’t secretly call me a liar. I have ZERO interest in a player who never hustles, steps on players ankles, tries to knock balls out of gloves and only cares about money. Like I said in my comment, I would take Arenado over Machado ANY freaking day. Hell, I would even take Harper over Machado. The guy is a bum, plain & simple. There’s a reason why NO ONE has offered him the contract he wants, it’s because he’s not worth it.

          Judging by your tag name, I’m assuming you’re a Yankees fan. Do EVERYONE a favor and sign this bum already because everyone else is not only tired of hearing about it, the Yankees want him more than Machado wants them.

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        • El Kabong

          6 years ago

          Hey, Mr. Bro. If Machado signed with the Mets, he would instantly become the best position player in franchise history. As it is, they will be the Orioles in two years. Arenado is never going to happen.

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        • Danny B.

          6 years ago

          Wow, another clueless, trolling, a$$ho!e. If Machado signed with the Mets he would become the best player in franchise history………..HAHA!!!!!!! “Bro”, you just lost ALL credibility!!! Let me just name of few Mets that Machado, even if he signed in Queens, would NEVER be better than:

          1. Tom Seaver
          2. Doc Gooden
          3. Keith Hernandez
          4. Gary Carter
          5. Mike Piazza
          6. Carlos Beltran
          7. David Wright
          8. Jacob DeGrom

          And this is just to name the obvious ones. Stop trolling. You clearly don’t know $h!t. Get an education. Always remember, reading is fundamental.

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        • megaj

          6 years ago

          If it wasn’t for the cocaine, Darryl Strawberry probably would have been the greatest Met of all time.

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        • Danny B.

          6 years ago

          I don’t care if it was cocaine, steroids, valium, etc. Rhese guys were great. People need to move on from players and drug use. Us, as fans, will NEVER truly know how many players were dirty or clean. It’s just a sad, undeniable fact.

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        • megaj

          6 years ago

          Strawberry’s case was well documented, he was suspended multiple times for it. I only mentioned him because he was not on your all time Met list. He was my favorite Met in those days.. In his case, drugs DID destroy his career.

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        • mikeyank55

          6 years ago

          Stop Danny attacking Manny for
          Being lazy because your NEW poster Boy Robbie is the epitome of gliding in balls that he doesn’t get up the
          middle and not running out grounders.

          Enjoy your new toy. His PED’s will land him in the DL as the body continues to break down!

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        • mikeyank55

          6 years ago

          Seaver-traded
          Doc-drugs
          Keith-uppers though he didn’t get caught.
          Carter-agree and respect
          Piazza-best moment when Clemens made him dodge a broken bat in the 2000 WS
          Beltran’s Mets career-called strike 3
          David Wright-good guy on DL
          Jacob-good guy

          So at best, like your team is .500.

          Oh, you may need to learn math.

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  14. twentyforty

    6 years ago

    Bob Nightengale as a source….

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  15. tharrie0820

    6 years ago

    Interesting how most of these teams would rather have Machado than Harper

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  16. mryan2

    6 years ago

    I really think Bryce fits the Philly market much better. Manny going to Philly could turn into a train wreck. If he would have made the comment he did last year during a Philadelphia playoff run, well the fan base would ate him alive. Manny may end up being the better overall but Bryce is still great and I believe would really fit in Philly.

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  17. of9376

    6 years ago

    How the hell is BVW out of funds? It’s New York, not Oakland! Act like the largest market team and go get some real players! End rant.

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    • Danny B.

      6 years ago

      It’s not Brodie Van Wagenen, it’s the Wilpons. Under the continuous restraints the Wilpons hold on the ballclub, I’m even more impressed with what BVM has been able to get done. He’s definitely an innovative thinker for sure.

      However, all this talk about the Mets not having money to spend, I believe it’s just a smoke screen. The Mets were willing to offer Grandal a $60 million contract but were lucky enough to get Ramos instead. If they were willing to spend big like that on a catcher and with all the recent acquisitions making the league minimum in 2019, I truly believe the Mets have one last big offer this off season.

      And if I’m being perfectly honest, I would love to see them go hard after Adam Ottavino to solidify the bullpen. Give Ottavino a 2 yr deal with a high AAV. Maybe 2 yrs & $26 million with a 3rd yr Team Option for say $14 million but includes a $2 million buyout. So the contract would actually be worth 2 yrs & $28 million. I think that would get it done.

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      • mikeyank55

        6 years ago

        If you were honest Danny you would start by finding another tram rather than defending a defenseless franchise. All the Wilpon’s do is humor fans with a few carrots while they rob them of their cash

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    • James1955

      6 years ago

      of9376. Same cheap Owners.

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  18. mickey802

    6 years ago

    Where is Mike Moustakas in any of this free agent talk

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    • Danny B.

      6 years ago

      That’s a great question. I thought maybe the Mets at one point would try to get him on the cheap but with both Frazier & Davis on the roster, I thought he fits. He’s very underrated.

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      • Danny B.

        6 years ago

        I meant to say I doubt he fits.

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      • GeoKaplan

        6 years ago

        Moustakas is underrated?

        No, he’s rated about right: Adequate defense, inconsistent offense, a clot in the basepaths, low OBP. He has devolved from his 2015 high to moderately better than a replacement player.

        He made $6M in a pillow contract last Winter after turning down $17M QO, and nobody wanted him. This offseason, he still holds no value for any of the 30 teams. He brings nothing to a team which it doesn’t already have and for less money than Moustakas expects. I expect him to take MiLB contract with invite to ST.

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  19. Cardinals17

    6 years ago

    Cardinals??? Why wouldn’t the Cardinals step on the gas and sign either Harper or Machado and make the team World Series contenders instead of standing pat and hoping for a second wild card position????

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  20. Cardinals17

    6 years ago

    And…..the Cardinals have the resources to pick up Bumgarner if they want to make an actual World Series run.

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  21. ThatBallwasBryzzoed

    6 years ago

    Anyone who believes the Cubs are out of money clearly they know nothing about baseball and how much the Ricketts make.. for 1. There is no salary cap..they could honestly get both Harper and Machado if they needed. Since they dont need either because even without KB for nearly 3 months. They lost their closer and Darvish early in the season. And still won 95 games.

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    • Anthony Princeton

      6 years ago

      No the Cubs are not out of money. However they are obviously up against their budget. While the Ricketts have tons of cash they also have significant debt service payments from the purchase of the team and have made significant investments in and around Wrigley.

      The Cubs priority right now should be relief pitching. With Morrow set to begin the season on the DL they have Strop, Cishek and probably Montgomery with a bunch of question marks behind them. That isn’t going to cut it with little minor league depth. They need at least 1 possibly 2 arms and need to hope the starters can give them better/more innings than last year.

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      • petrie000

        6 years ago

        The Cubs are also in pretty good shape without Harper, so it’s more about whether they want him than need him.

        If Ricketts doesn’t want to blow past the luxury tax just yet, there’s very sensible reasons for that.

        But sensible doesn’t make for good click bait

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        • ChiSoxCity

          6 years ago

          Pretty good shape? That lineup is due for a gut job if they underperform again. And do give me this crap about their record again. They looked like trash in the playoffs and performed awfully down the stretch. A team in good shape doesn’t fire their manager either, which is looking like a certainty during the upcoming season as well.

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  22. Z-A 2

    6 years ago

    If you were going to spend “stupid money” you would have went out and gotten both.

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    • El Kabong

      6 years ago

      Exactly.

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  23. tman81346

    6 years ago

    mets owner ship deceaved fans and New GM with money they could spend..team stinks..they need a super star..4th place finish at best

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    • El Kabong

      6 years ago

      A major problem is a lack of depth on the big league roster and throughout the organization. True playoff contenders can generally ride out injuries with internal replacements. The Mets can’t do that. Yes, they double crossed the new GM, who can always go back to his old job and make more money than what the Mets are paying him. If that happens, no bright baseball mind will want a job that is perceived as a career killer. Nor will any agents want to send their biggest FA clients to the Mets. This is what happens when you’re dishonest and don’t let your baseball people do the job you hired them to do.

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  24. megaj

    6 years ago

    I agree with Rosenthal that most trades would weaken the club. Heyward, Happ, Almora, Bote, and Russell (if anybody wanted him) are pretty much the only position players that wouldn’t leave too big a void. Quintana could probably be moved as part of bigger deal and not be missed from the rotation.

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  25. gino 2

    6 years ago

    Nats should be locking Rendon up long term. Don’t let him play out the year like they did with Harper. Rendon is one of the top players at 3rd base and he’s a great player. Get him signed or trade him before the season gets under way.

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  26. CubsRebsSaints

    6 years ago

    If Chicago is serious about improving and moving money, then why in the world aren’t they trying to acquire MadBum’s expiring 12m contract? Send Heyward and Darvish our West. If you have to include Schwarber
    And take E. Longoria , to balance some money and play 3b, sending KB to LF. Sign Harper. Maybe get Will Smith in the Deal. Add some young talent. I don’t know exactly, but there is possibly a deal there to be made.

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    • megaj

      6 years ago

      A Heyward/Bumgarner trade actually does work for both teams, but Cubs would still have to eat a lot of Heyward’s contract for SF to make the deal. They aren’t going to take Darvish though, and Cubs would have to be crazy to get rid of Schwarber. He makes less than 1M and is over an .800 OPS player. Lots of teams have inquired about him the last two offseasons, but Theo won’t budge. Too many uninformed fans don’t understand how much potential he really has. If Heyward is moved, I would rather take Pollock for 1/2 the price of Harper though. A healthy Pollock would be a tremendous upgrade for CF, and works great as a leadoff for this team.

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      • mga2q7

        6 years ago

        I would love it if they didnt take darvish. People forget he signed a below market value contract last year before getting hurt for the entire season. You can point out how bad he was, but if that was due to injury then you cant really hold that against him. He should be a solid 2 this year and at worst case a 3.

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      • CubsRebsSaints

        6 years ago

        Heyward to patrol their spacious right field? This is a 10 million dollar saving move. Maybe send Quintana so the rotation isn’t at 6 men. His cheap options are appealing, but for what CHI gave up, I’d say it’s not worked out. Heyward, Q, and a good prospect and Chicago saves 21, unless they add a reliever with someone yeah like Smith or Melancon.
        If the Cubs spend spend spend right now, how does it affect their TV deal. Does it make Sinclair ask for a bigger piece of the pie? Because they know they have it?

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  27. seth3120

    6 years ago

    Let’s stick to real baseball talk and forget the Trout trade scenarios. Angels didn’t offer the mega deal to Pujols to take away another teams franchise player to let one of the best players ever to go anywhere. You know your incredible when they don’t compare you to players they can only say how much can one guy be worth. There is not other player close enough to stand side by side

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  28. Bill

    6 years ago

    Who would want to trade for Nido? They’d have to get something decent for him since presumably he would only earn league minimum as a backup for the Mets and a replacement would earn more.

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