The White Sox announced today that they have designated lefty Ian Clarkin for assignment. His roster spot will go to righty Kelvin Herrera, whose previously reported signing is now official.
Clarkin has already been bounced from the White Sox’ 40-man roster once this offseason, though he found his way back in short order. He was claimed in late November by the cross-town Cubs, only to be re-claimed by the South Siders less than a week later.
We’ll have to see how things play out this time around. The White Sox obviously like the 23-year-old, who was originally acquired in the 2017 deal that sent David Robertson and Tommy Kahnle to the Yankees. At the same time, the club’s numerous winter additions have created some roster pressures. The White Sox’ hope, no doubt, is that Clarkin will clear waivers so that he can be outrighted.
There have been some ups and downs to this point for the 2013 first-rounder, who has yet to crack the big leagues. Clarkin had generally produced promising results in the lower minors, but last year, he struggled to a 4.98 ERA with just 4.6 K/9 against 4.1 BB/9 through 68 frames at the Double-A level.
A lot of pressure on Rutherford to keep the Kahnle trade from being a very bad one for the Sox.
Khanle was absolutely dirty on hitters in 2017 and I believe he can bounce back. That injury set him back big time sadly
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Frazier, Kahnle and Robertson wouldn’t have made a whole lot of difference to CWS fortunes in ‘18.
Clarkin and Rutherford on the other hand, have a legit chance to be impact major leaguers for many years to come, at a fraction of the money Robertson alone will earn in ‘19.
I’d say the real ‘pressure’ will be on batters who’ll have to face Clarkin, and pitchers who’ll have to pitch to Rutherford in the not-too-distant.
Your completely delusional. Clarkin is a bust and has been ever since the Yankees drafted him, he’s barely been able to stay healthy for the last 5 years, it’s a miracle he even had any trade value and the Yankees were going to lose him in the Rule 5 draft in 2017 regardless bc he wasn’t making their 40 man so it was just cutting dead weight. And speaking of weight, it looks like Rutherford’s going to have trouble hitting his own in the upper minors let alone majors. Cashman once again, outsmarted an opposing GM
Yes. I’m sure that Blake Rutherford’s main concern going forward in his development as a potential key future OF piece on the South Side is predicated on the “pressure” you think he’s feeling from being a centerpiece in that Yankee trade. Seriously?
What kind of “pressure” do you suppose he would be feeling if he was still in NY and trying to break into an OF that already boasts Aaron Judge and Giancarlo Stanton among others?
All prospects feel pressure in trying to become MLB players, perhaps the “elite” ones even more so as they try break into a pretty exclusive group of MLB players. Part of what separates them from their peers is just how they cope with all those expectations.
I think half-a-brain having folks could decifer that I meant “pressure” on the trade’s outcome, not the player.
I choose not to write novels in the comment section. If that’s the only way you can keep up, skip my submissions.
Nice high brow insulting. I upvoted you and downvoted him. Pleaae enjoy it.
I wrote 3 paragraphs replying to your comment. You wrote one simple sentence and are now trying to backtrack from a comment that stated: “A lot of pressure on Rutherford to keep the Kahnle trade from being a very bad one for the Sox.”
I think that anyone including those “half-a-brain having folks” you referred to could only interpret your comment one way, the manner in which you actually wrote it.
If you had half a brain, pplama, you might know how to spell DECIPHER.
We’re all morons, so let’s talk about baseball instead.
There’d be a lot more pressure if Kahnle could pitch well enough to stay on a major league roster…
Quite frankly, at this point the only reason I see that it could look “very bad” is because Hahn had a Robertson-for-Luzardo trade agreed upon with the Nationals, but their owners were too cheap to pay half of Robertson’s salary (despite being desperate for relief help). Luzardo would’ve been a fantastic addition. That being said, Rutherford can definitely hit. Hopefully he keeps putting on good weight as he ages and keeps adding strength, because he definitely has a strong hit tool.
They dumped Todd Frazier and the rest of Robertson’s salary, when they had no inkling of contention for the next 2 years. The fact all they needed to do was give up kahnle and eat clippards salary and we got a prospect back, Sox won the trade even if Rutherford doesn’t pan out in a Sox uniform
Hard to say the Yankees lost that trade when Kahnle, Frazier, and Robertson delivered for them down the stretch and in the playoffs. Taking them from the fringes of postseason contention to a game away from a World Series.
Hard to say they won it when they didn’t win a championship with Robertson/Frazier and Kahnle can’t even stick on the big league roster.
Also hard to say they won it when we have no clue what Rutherford, a top 100 prospect, will be yet.
It’s hard to say the white Sox won it either. Clarkin is all but toast. So it’s all on whatever Rutherford becomes. D-Rob was a great addition for NY. Frazier contributed too. Kahnle has a chance to bounce back but they haven’t gotten much from him. You won’t know how this deal turns out for another 5 years. There’s no winner right now.
That Frazier/Robertson/Kahnle trade still looks like a win for NYY even if Kahnle is the lone man remaining in NY for the Yankees.
Still a little early to write off B Ruth. Even if he only becomes a solid regular, the White Sox would probably be happy since they didn’t give up any pieces that would’ve helped them.
I think we all know what happened with Babe Ruth 😉
Define win?
Did the Yankees win a championship as a result of that trade yet?
How confident are you that Tommy Kahnle will be a part of their next World Series title?
Are you prepared to predict the impact that Blake Rutherford might have on the White Sox going forward, a 21-year old top-100 prospect who has still not played an inning of ball in AA or AAA yet?
acorn-eglia;
You nut.
Short-term win, NYY. Long-term win, CWS.
That’s the dynamic behind most trades.
How so? Frazier/Robertson didn’t help them win anything, and Kahnle spent more than half his 2018 in the minors… Rutherford is coming off a very solid year in High-A. Where’s the win coming from so far?
So the only way to win a trade is to win a World Series? Do you think the White Sox will win a World Series during Rutherford’s time with them?
When you’re trading for veterans to put you over the top, yeah, pretty much. Since when did just making the playoffs become “good enough” for the Yankees? And the Yankees had 11 more wins than the #3 team “fighting” for the Wild Card. They were making the playoffs either way.
The Chapman/Torres deal would’ve been an absolute joke if the Cubs didn’t win the World Series. Same idea.
The c-Sox have as good of a chance to win a championship w Rutherford in their organization as the NYY do with Kahnle in their’s. MILB is called a development league for a VERY GOOD REASON. THAT is why it’s to early to judge the trade.
No… just… no. The Yankees gave up nobody of importance and got to within a win of a World Series. I don’t know if I’d say they “won” the trade but it certainly delivered and they absolutely didn’t lose it.
Even if the WSox win a championship it won’t mean they won the trade unless the players in Question play a big part in it.
Comparing to the Chapman deal is just moronic: Torres was a coveted #1 prospect.
That “nobody of importance” guy was once one of the many “untouchable” Yankee prospects. Even if he didn’t have a spot on the Yankees roster going forward (he would in LF), he’d still have PLENTY of value as a traceable asset. He’s also a top 100 prospect and former first round pick, so saying he’s not important is disingenuous at best.
And I could just as easily say the White Sox have up nothing of importance and got back a top 100 prospect that looks very solid. DRob wasn’t important on a ~100 loss team, Frazier wasn’t good, and they sold Kahnle as soon as they could get a legit return for him. See how that works?
Again, the Yankees were making the playoffs with or without that trade. Unless you legitimately think 2 relievers and a washed up third baseman made an 11 win difference in that short time period, there really is no arguing that point. They also beat an 85 win Twins team in the Wild Card, so I’m pretty positive they would’ve made it to the ALDS either way. Seeing as they clearly didn’t win a World Series with 2/3’s of that trade, and the other 1/3 isn’t in the major leagues at the moment, I don’t think there’s ANY way it can reasonably be called a win for the Yankees.
And if you actually take the time to read what I just wrote, you’ll realize I’m not calling it a loss for them at this point either. If the Yankees pitching coach can turn Kahnle back into what Coop turned him into, they’ll have a chance to win the trade. And from the White Sox side, we have to wait and see what Rutherford turns into.
Seeing how nobody has gotten what they wanted out of that trade yet, I think it’s safe to say that nobody has “won” it thus far.
Priggs;
Chapman/Torres deal still looks like a joke in spite of WS win for northsiders. Will be an even bigger joke with each passing year of the Torres era.
And to think they only pulled off the WS victory by thismuch.
Kahnle was terrible in 2018 what are you even talking about?
He’s talking about the other players in the trade. Robertson had the best stretch of his career in the second half of 2017, Frazier delivered when it mattered most.
Big trade for the Yanks, and nothing they gave up was going to be a part of their future.
DRob (along w/Kahnle) got roughed up at pivotal moments in Houston’s game 6/7 comeback to eliminate Yanks in the ’17 ALCS. That’s not winning a deal. WSox dumped a lot of salary and then 1 month later almost all of Clippards to Houston since he pitched well on the South Side. That was their main objective. Player-wise if Rutherford is a solid regular, they did very well.
They did this in November, he was a Cub for 6 days.
I still wonder how much more the White Sox could have received if they had eaten some of the Frazier and/or Robertson salaries. After the hauls received for Sale and Eaton, it sure seemed that Rick Hahn sold cheap on this deal.
They took on Clippard’s remaining salary to help the Yanks.
I’m more curious what the offers were from the Red Sox or Nationals on a few of those players, in trades the White Sox ultimately passed on.
The White Sox had a deal agreed upon with the Nationals for Robertson before the season, and they were willing to eat half the salary for Luzardo, but their owners were too cheap to take on even that much money at the time.
No idea what the Red Sox offered, but they don’t even have a prospect I’d take over Rutherford, so I don’t think Hahn was missing out on much.
Heard the same thing on Luzardo pre-season. Don’t know what they offered before the A’s trade. Red Sox rumor is they weren’t willing to part with Devers or Groome for Frazier and Robertson. Don’t know what they were offering.
Luzardo was also injured at the time. I don’t blame the White Sox one bit for turning that down
They didn’t turn it down… It was agreed upon before Nats ownership nixed the deal. It was a great move by Hahn, but it didn’t work out unfortunately.
Padres get in on Clarkin. Former first round pick of the Yankees, and went to Madison High School with me where I played CF with him. 6’2 Lefty who could provide some more upper level starting pitching depth, DFA Pirela already. It would add another potential high upside left handed arm to the organization.
Came on here to say the same thing – (except for the playing with him part). Pirela is the perfect drop candidate obviously, and cannot hurt to bring in the arm. If you get him on track, you add depth with a number of other young lefties on the way.
Exactly, makes much more sense to gamble on Clarkin and stash him at AA/AAA, than to stroll Pirela out there again. We all know what that looks like she we are over it.
Signed,
– All remaining breathing Padre fans.
Goes without saying…I don’t see Pirela around no matter what, but Clarkin is an upside arm that is well worth taking a chance on. You have the flexibility with the 40 man, and you are in the middle of a rebuild. Seems like a no-brainer to me.
And bleacherbum that is a complete lie.
It’s kinda a wash if Kahnle doesn’t return to form. When it’s a low minors OF and a relief pitcher who’s out of whack. Then it’s not really anything serious
Yankees trade AJ Cole or Luis Cessa I think we could try Clarkin again
Clarkin is a stiff who will never see MLB. Waste of a 1st round draft pick by the Yanks.
Rutherford, on the other hand, looks like a legit prospect from video I have watched. Time will tell, obviously.
Well thank you for your “expert” opinion. I am sure teams are adjusting their approach, having read your assessment.
I really want the Cubs to claim him again, just to see how many times he can go back and forth this off season
petrie;
He’s going for the record.
I see a lot about who won the trade and who didn’t. I believe in some trades there is an initial benefit and a long term benefit.
The initial benefit at the time for NYY was the ability to bolster their pen for a playoff push with two arms that were lights out for the White Sox. They were useless on a team that wasn’t anywhere near the post season. Initial benefit for the Sox was another piece to build on in their retooling of the farm system. That in its self is a win for both teams because they achieved their initial goals. Long term for Sox is hopefully they have a cornerstone in Rutherford, and the Yankees at the time were entertaining the idea of having Robertson and Kahnle for the long haul for multiple contending years. Kahnle has a chance this year to return to form. As of right now the long term win is what we are waiting on for both teams. It could take a couple years. We need to see how Rutherford does, or see if Kahnle can contribute for the Yanks.
Didn’t mean to double post
axis;
That’s what she said.