If it seems we’re making only incremental progress in our understanding of the Bryce Harper saga, that may be due to the fact that the bidding is still progressing in a cautious manner. We learned yesterday that the Giants’ interest extended to the ten-year contract range, and there’s more chatter this morning, though it’s fair to wonder whether the recent movement is mostly just setting the stage for a final frenzy.
Harper’s camp seemingly expects to sign a record-breaking contract, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports. It remains to be seen both where Harper will land and what record(s) he’ll break, but Nightengale writes that the three primary remaining contenders — the Dodgers, Giants, and Phillies — “have vowed to provide Harper with either the biggest overall free-agent contract in North American sports history or the largest average annual salary anyone has ever received in the sport.” The present record-holders in each of those two measures are Giancarlo Stanton ($325MM total contract) and Zack Greinke ($34.42MM AAV).
Agent Scott Boras is said to be “circling back with other teams” to see if they wish to get involved at the last moment. Presumably, that’ll include a phone call to the Nationals, Harper’s only professional club to date and a frequent match with Boras clients. It’s unknown at this point whether any other organizations will jump into the mix or whether the bidding is down to a final three. Regardless, Nightengale suggests, it seems the final stage of the process is finally upon us.
Here’s a quick breakdown of where the three aforementioned primary contenders stand, based upon reporting to date:
- The Phillies “still have the highest offer on the table,” per Nightengale. As Matt Breen of Philly.com reported yesterday, though the club is increasingly pessimistic of landing the star. The Phils are holding the line for the time being, per Andy Martino of SNY.tv (via Twitter), with Harper looking to move past the Stanton guarantee. Clearly, there’s some tension between this report and Nightengale’s assessment of the organizations’ willingness to set new high-water marks in the financial department.
- The Dodgers are evidently still not willing to go to a decade, as ESPN.com’s Buster Olney reported yesterday on Twitter. They are, however, prepared to “obliterate” Greinke’s AAV record, Nightengale says. It seems the organization believes it’d need to dangle a term of “at least five years,” though that element of the interest is largely unknown. Neither is it known just how high the Dodgers would go in single-season AAV. It’s worth noting that the opt-out(s) included would be of even greater importance under this kind of scenario, though it’s unclear as yet how that could factor in.
- As for the Giants, Nightengale says the club is willing to go past $300MM on a ten-year term to land Harper. That’s unsurprising, as it emerged yesterday that the San Francisco organization was willing to go to that length, but is notable nevertheless. Nightengale cites “panic and desperation about season-ticket sales and fan interest” as driving what is “strictly an ownership pursuit.”
realgone2
Snore
dimitrios in la
This signing will represent the end of an era. Invariably Harper will disappoint via his lofty contract. The reluctance of the league overall to sign these kinds of deals will be cemented after this deal.
deweybelongsinthehall
I agree in the long term but unless he totally busts the next two years, Trout and Betts may seek partial ownership in their next deals (not allowed but you get the idea). Ridiculous money. Next CBA should allow individual merchandise incentive deals.
dimitrios in la
Good point re Betts and Trout. I’d say maybe true for Trout but the market, supported by data, has undergone a very serious correction. I’m inclined to think that it’ll impact their deals immensely. (And do we really view Betts as perennially repeating this year’s performance? I love the player but don’t see that happening.)
citizen
The team gets most of the money marketing players on jerseys and bobbleheads. They have to recoup some of their money back somehow in addition to ticket sales, food and beverage sales and broadcasting Since mlb doesn’t allow most non guaranteed deals like the nfl, or performance based ones apart from minor league deals with salary commensurate to making the team, not so sure if the contracts could cut a percent into merchandise sales..
Jean Matrac
“Since mlb doesn’t allow…performance based (deals)…”
Not sure that’s true. One way to reduce the CBT hit is to sign players to a basic contract with incentives, like the Giants did with Austin Jackson.
Swinging Friars
Why? There is already plenty of money in baseball. It’s there
I’d much rather you pry the money from the billionaire than from the fan. What happens to the already ridiculous price of concessions and merchandise when you force a slice be given to the players?
Just force them to spend more on their teams
Meow Meow
Betts is heading into his age-26 season, and while I don’t necessarily expect him to lead the majors in avg and slg% again, I’d be more surprised to see him fare significantly worse over the next several seasons than I would be to see him post similarly-elite numbers for a while.
Uncle Charlie
The owners never take the hit. They pass it along to the fans with $14.00 beers and $8.00 hot dogs. Teams are already penalized for not trying but it still doesn’t stop the practice.
ABStract
Totally agree
DadsInDaniaBeach
It is true..X amount for MVP…X amount for batting title….X amount for Cy Young etc etc etc etc
mgiusto
Harper isn’t that likeable all across MLB like Trout is, so I don’t see the contract Harper signs having any effect on what Trout will command when he’s due. Trout should have no problem commanding $40m per year, he’s just that good and even more likeable as a person and a player.
TheYourMomGuy
lol
Aaron Sapoznik
End of an era? lol
I remember at the beginning of this past offseason ridiculing numerous comments that suggested both Manny Machado and Bryce Harper would never receive 10-year contracts, that those were a thing of the past. I agreed that those types of deals were likely gone for 30+ year old players but the exception would continue for these two 26-year old talents. Yet everyone kept suggesting all these 7-8 max year deals which made little sense for either player considering that would return them to the FA market at the unenviable ages of 33 or 34.
Well the ink has already dried on Machado’s 10-year deal with the Padres while Harper now seems to be getting at least two offers with an equal time frame. The Dodgers seem to be the one team holding out with a shorter term contract but one that will give Harper a record breaking AAV deal and still allow him to become a FA around 30 or 31. Of course all these deals have or will contain an additional earlier opt-out or two but those ridiculous 7-8 year guaranteed contracts made little sense for either. If you don’t believe me, just ask the White Sox!
Mrivers
Little difference though. Only one team willing to go to 300m. With Harper, only 2. The market is small.
Ace of Diamonds
Except for when and if Trout reaches free agency…
Melchez
“Harper’s camp seemingly expects to sign a record-breaking contract, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports. ”
Ya think?
Change the name of this site to MLB Stuff Everyone Knew
EndinStealth
Change your name to I Dont Have to Read this but I do so I can whine.
todd76
Where’s the comments from X on this post? 🙂
ChiSox_Fan
Agree!
Waste of everyone’s time.
No news here!
Ryan W
Sign by July!
Paramatic
I guess it would be a 9 1/2 year deal by then!
MiserablePadreFan
I hope he signs with SF! They’ll be irrelevant for the next 5 years and his numbers will be average at best playing in that ballpark. Plus he won’t go to the Doyers. Win Win!
baseballpun
I think any NL fan has to hope he goes to the Giants, right?
PhilliePhan
Not me.
nymetsking
LOL
DadsInDaniaBeach
not me either
old dodger fan
Nats
Norm Chouinard
Don’t agree. His power plays better in a big park than in a band box like Citizens Bank Park. His bombs leave any park.
Get Tased at CBP
Of the thousands of comments made on this site, that may be the biggest head scratcher.
Chicks Dig the Longball
HRs don’t count for extra runs if they are in bigger ballparks, so your point doesn’t make sense.
RunDMC
Chicks dig the long ball, not the short porch skimpers.
rerogers
They also dig intelligence, looks, and $30+ million per year.
Woods Rider
That makes no sense. Wall scraper or 550′ jack, it still counts the same.
What’s not the same is Harper’s numbers in the 3 parks of the mentioned teams. His numbers are clearly better in CBP than the other two. If he’s worried about a legacy and putting up killer numbers (especially if he plans on opting out of any deal) his best bet on himself is to go to Philadelphia.
Meow Meow
It’s hard to do a true apples-to-apples comparison here. CBP has belonged to a division rival and it’s very close to his home ballpark. By contrast Dodger Stadium and AT&T Park have been across the country and his appearances there have been rarer and have come after cross-country travel.
Obviously CBP’s more hitter-friendly dimensions play a role, but I think it’s reasonable to assume that Harper’s numbers in those west-coast parks would significantly improve if he was playing his home games there.
therealryan
You also have to consider who is pitching to him in those ballparks. Over the past 5 years the Giants pitchers have been half a run better than the Phillies and the Dodgers are almost an entire run better.
ezjrj
That has to be the dumbest answer ever his power plays better in a big stadium than a smaller one please read what you write before hitting send wow
Swinging Friars
You hit the ball in the gap in Phillie and it’s probably a double. Over in SF they have this canyon for a gap, there’s a good chance he’ll be able to stretch a few out into triples. Runners have a chance to score from first. The list goes on
The point is the long balls will continue to make it over the wall, even in SF. And the gappers now have more potential
damon389
Because long fly ball outs are so much more productive than HRs!!!
mpecoraro
You cannot be more wrong. They have this stuff all mapped out, and it is exactly why he is worth more to Phillies than anyone else. in 2018 alone, if his home at bats were in Philadelophia, he would have had 9 more home runs, the computer analysis of all his ABs concludes. Over his career, you are talking an extra 100 HRs, It makes sense for both parties, but Boras might think otherwise.
DadsInDaniaBeach
@ Norm….ROTFLMAO
Ace of Diamonds
true, but a popup may leave the yard in a band box…
RedSox4Life4ever
That park is built for left handed batters. They built it that way for Bonds back in the day.
Woods Rider
Yankees did the same for Ruth in 1925
Matt Ragusa
But Cranium Head was juiced out of his mind.
captainsalty
These obnoxious posts from Madres fans are getting old…why don’t you just enjoy Manny and your bright future and stop wishing injury and ill will towards your opponents?
MiserablePadreFan
Why so salty? 🙂 Honestly I just like trolling Giants and Doyer fans. It’s a divisional rivalry thing I guess. Manny has definitely gotten to my head though.
jreadwilliams
As a Dodger fan I am not sure what rivalry you are speaking about.
Balk
Lol, now the Dodgers and Giants are the rivals here. No room for the Padres, not to say us giants fans love our home away from home there in San Diego! Lol
MiserablePadreFan
The one where you pound us in 80% of the games each year. That one.
Swinging Friars
These obnoxious posts from that rooster ryan guy are getting old…
Fixed it for you
Please don’t lump all of us in with that small handful of ryan handles!
MiserablePadreFan
{gif of Chris Cannon saying ‘huh?’}
Swinging Friars
sorry, you obviously aren’t ryan.
I think the comment of obnoxious Padre fans is a result of that one dude though… He just comes in yelling and screaming, trolling. I’m pretty sure that’s what that comment was directed at. At least it’s what I was referring to
rerogers
Bright future? Manny is a chump (but good player) and the Padres will continue to be irrelevant.
Swinging Friars
We get our moments just like any other franchise not in the biggest markets
Dodgers / Padres is a rivalry. No where near the history of the SF / Dodger rivalry. But geography made the Padres / Dodgers a rivalry. Every SD athlete was taught to hate all things la growing up, a lot like the rival hs was supposed to be hated. I’m guessing much of the same was taking place up there
You can be forgiven for forgetting about the Padres down south..For the last 10 years they’ve been on pause…
dimitrios in la
@Miserable: I guess that makes you a Dodgers fan!
MiserablePadreFan
Ewww gross
joshua.barron1
Nightengale cites “panic and desperation about season-ticket sales and fan interest” as driving what is “strictly an ownership pursuit.”
About time!
Senioreditor
Dodgers already cap season ticket sales otherwise there would be little if any walk up available.
Chromimw
Ironic timing of when Smashmouth put out their tweet to when ownership decided it needed to get into this thing for real
snotrocket
Charles Johnson is Smashmouth.
BlueSkyLA
If true this is an interesting new wrinkle in the Harper saga. He doesn’t make a lot of sense for a team that likely isn’t going anywhere for the prime years he’d be in their lineup except to gin up some box-office. Harper has to decide if he wants to be that guy just for the secure money or to play on a team that gives him real postseason possibilities.
ronnsnow
Oh look, another Harper update with no updates. Thanks MLBTR, you guys are really on top of this.
c ya
they really are on top of it, very well I might add
trendysayings
I feel like this article summed up all the different reports well. I, for one, learned something from reading this article.
richdanna
Knock it off. If they didn’t, you’d probably complain about their poor coverage. It has nothing to do with MLBTR and everything to do with you.
walls17
No one made you click on the article
cpdpoet
MLBTR is doing the best job they can. If no article is written y’all complain…? There really is NO 110% verifiable info, just whispers etc. While I know that, I still enjoy each article and all (or sometimes…no new) the info given. Stay the course MLBTR!
c ya
Yawn
Dicka24
I shed no tears to the foolish organization that gives Harper 10 years and $300+ million. Harper is a very good player, but he’s in no way, shape, or form worth that money or AAV..
Vizionaire
the reason why these kind of signings are ownership decisions is how much income those players generate. pujols may seem a burden on the angels but he made so much money for the owner.
stymeedone
A young version of Adam Dunn.
thecoffinnail
Seems like more of a young version of Andre Dawson than Adam Dunn to me.
Cat Mando
Dawson was consistent, Harper is not.
petfoodfella
He’s consistently average.
therealryan
Young men who have done what Harper has done up to this point in his career have a history of being excellent over the next decade of their careers. Since WWII, there have been 20 players to accumulate 30+ fWAR through their age 25 season. Four of them are currently still playing in their 20’s, Trout, Betts, Machado and Harper. The other 16 averaged over 52 fWAR in their age 26-35 seasons and 14 of 16 had at least 39 fWAR. If I was an owner and had the chance to add a 26 year on a HOF trajectory, I would gladly give him a 10 year deal if that is what it took to lock him up through his prime.
phantomofdb
San Francisco having a legit left handed power threat is fun because of splash hits… so I want Harper to go there
jessecc08
this is getting old
Norm Chouinard
Every gambler knows the secret to surviving is knowing what to throw away and knowing what to keep.
Jean Matrac
Not if you’re playing stud or hold ’em.
walls17
Anyone else think Harper is just dragging this out so he can skip spring training? Maybe he signs a week before the season starts or something
Senioreditor
Ya I was thinking that too. It’s exactly a month to go until opening day. I figure it’s over very soon now.
Norm Chouinard
“We’re sitting in here, and I’m supposed to be the franchise player, and we in here talking about practice. I mean, listen, we’re talking about practice.”
PhilliePhan
Love it. AI never gets old.
number1dodger
As a dodger fan I would definitely like to see him in a dodger uniform. But not for 10 years. Five at the most. Only because I want the Dodgers to be able to have room to add additional players in the future. And I don’t think Harper would be very effective after five years.
Nolenabs83
The Dodgers have only 8 million dollars guaranteed past 2022….so I’m pretty sure they will be able to “add additional players” in the future!
BlueSkyLA
That number is close to meaningless.. I also hear how the Dodgers have $90M coming off the books next year, but that number is also close to meaningless, because it excludes a bunch of arbitration-eligible players who will get a big salary bump as well as the fact that the players they’d no longer be paying will have to be replaced in the roster and they aren’t all coming from the minors.
The more meaningful number is annual team revenue. Last estimate of that I’ve seen was around $550M. So, yeah, they can afford Harper.
Begamin
I think 90MM coming off the books is important to consider. It may only be one part of the equation but 90MM off the books is still 90MM off the books
Z-A 2
If the Phillies still have the highest offer, then he just doesn’t want to play there. He wants to be in LA. Simple as that. Time to move on to Keuchel or a trade for Castellanos.
martras
The expectation, right now, is their offer won’t hold up. It also seems like the Phillies are already done with negotiations as they’re unwilling to get into a ridiculous bidding war.
I expect Harper signs with SF when SF’s total contract offer inevitably exceeds the Phillies final offer.
Jean Matrac
It’s not just about the highest offer, or even where he wants to play. Contracts can be complex, so the “highest offer” may contain fewer opt-outs, more deferred money, less no-trade protections. etc., etc.
cpdpoet
Pretty sure all things considered, he’ll take less to play in SF. Harper will get his 10yr deal and an average less than he’d of gotten in Philly. Diehard Phillies fan for 40yrs. Time to save face, put best offer on table, then let him sign in SF.
martras
Sounds like SF’s GM is already at odds with ownership. That said, the ownership might feel some pressure to counter the Padres’ & Rockies’ recent moves. Harper doesn’t make the Giants a contender right now, but he would be part of an obvious core you’d want to be able to build around for the foreseeable future. If the Giants are going to become relevant again, Harper could be a good piece to keep for a long period of time.
I’m getting the feeling the Phillies front office/ownership is pissed and over it at this point.
pjmcnu
He’s another small market GM that wants to retain his small market philosophy rather than adjust to his present situation. He rose to prominence on his bargain hunting abilities, and is either scared or unable to build a team now that he has resources. His old boss in LA is the same way. Scared to out himself as ineffective if he doesn’t limit his outlay (and thus temper expectations). It shouldn’t (and likely won’t) play in markets like LA or SF long term.
twinkietime
“Panic and desperation” seems to be a dream scenario for Boras.
Sportsjeffs
I’m a Phillies fan, I am hoping Harper goes to the Giants..so over rated and not worth the money.. Phillies can contend without him
joshroy
I second this as a Phillies fan
Cat Mando
3rd. He is too inconsistent. Sure he had one MVP season but has never placed in the top 10 other than that. I doubt he will this year either. .260/360./.490 +/- maybe a 3.5 WAR this year…not worth it.
Yeshua
I think maybe Cozens will have a good spring, make the roster, and have a breakout year. There’s the left handed power bat and just a little less expensive.
Basebal101
I’m a Dodger’s fan and 100% agree. Hard pass.
IronBallsMcGinty
To hell with Harper if he really is that concerned with holding out for the record contract. Is it really that important?
martras
He’s not holding out for a record contract. He’s holding out for the maximum value he can get. While his overall goal might be the record contract, ultimately, it’s about wherever the bidding stops.
stymeedone
He’s not doing this for himself. He’s doing it for “future generations.” LOLOL
aj_54
Keep feeding us these nothing burgers…delicious…finally some good f***ing food
mark1623
Stanton wasnt a free agent so no disconnect with those two statements. Sounds like the Phillies offer is between Machado and Stanton.
Senioreditor
I predict it’s over TODAY!
Robertowannabe
It’s not over until we say it’s over….Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor????…………
Dotnet22
Let him go, he’s on a roll.
fox471 Dave
Smile.
nymetsking
Waiting for the under 40 crowd to “correct” you.
khopper10
I’m 31 and I love that movie.
number1dodger
I think by 5 o’clock Friday Eastern time will know something
Aaron Sapoznik
AM or PM?
If Harper and Boras wait another weekend they will then have to deal with a time change unless he signs with the Diamondbacks, who ironically might be his best fit.
Al Jab
What week?
number1dodger
So true 🙂
bjupton100
I can’t believe he’s that worried about beating another players aav more than winning. TB should make a bid of 10 at 300 million, just to see if not paying state income tax makes a difference. Chicago I would think has a disadvantage just because of state income tax. If he signed in Tx, FL without an agent he’d get like thirty million more on a 10/300 million dollar deal. TB could do 5/200 million and he’d still have another chance at a big payday. They could then trade him ,preferrably after he has a ten war season, for Gore, Robles etc..
petfoodfella
I can see his side. He wants the highest contract and also a winning team. All 3 of them give him that chance. We’re not talking about the Pirates or Rangers here.
StillNatFan
Hey Bryce. It’s 8:30 in Vegas. Time to rise and sign!!!!!!!!
mfh530
and the narrative was the top free agents are sitting out there unsigned, boo hoo. sign a f###ing contract and play the game, instead of this breaking every record that’s out there thanks to Boras agenda
xXabial
He is not worth the richest contract in history. I hate Machado but would not be surprised Machado lives up more to the money than Harper.
gorav114
Stanton wasn’t a free agent so Machado is the largest free agent deal at 300 million. Stanton is the largest overall contract ever but was an extension. Therefore, Harper could get 10/305 and it would be highest free agent contract ever
number1dodger
I don’t quite understand why he feels like he hast to have this mega contract. That means every single year he is going to be put on a pedestal and be expected to perform at the highest level of any ball player in major-league baseball. I would personally would want to stay low-key and if I have a bad year you’re not going to have A media circus surrounding you because you had a bad year.
brewpackbuckbadg
more money! Bragging rights! EGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
number1dodger
A quote from the movie top gun. His ego writes checks his body can’t cash.
stymeedone
Record broken: Longest drag out of a contract negotiation
AndreTheGiantKiller
Dodgers for 185 over 5 years. opt out after 3. who says no to that?
thelyonhearted
Harper.
old dodger fan
Boras
BigSexy
If it’s 5 years, AAV has to be 40M (At least), I would imagine.
Rex Block
I expect Harper to be Walking on the Sun before long.
sascoach2003
Smart move on Boras’ part, “circling back to all teams”. Say, for instance, Moreno or another owner with a “win-now” or deep pockets throws a 4/160 or 4/200 offer out there. Then what? Harper would still be 30 when the contract is up, and still would be in great shape to get paid again on another 4-5 year contract. I’m guessing that’s why it’s taking this long. I’m not sure 10 years with the Phillies or Giants is that appealing, and I’m still thinking the Dodgers wouldn’t be a player at 10, but something along the 4-5 year timeframe.
Jean Matrac
Except that Harper is on record as saying he’s not interested in anything short-term. If he was I think he’d have signed by now.
PinstripedPride
I do badly want Hal Steinbrenner to secretly be in on this. However that has as much chance as me traveling on a NASA space mission
CoachSantoni
For the last time, Phillies please walk away from this deal. It’s an economic killer for the future. I for one think your current roster and the 3-4 top pieces in the minor make you a relevant team now. I also think signing a LH pitcher now and if contending at trade deadline you could pickup another asset. Quick question???? Does anyone really believe he wants to be on the east coast? I’ll answer that NO. So cut bait and move on. If it was meant to be he’d be in Clearwater already….run from the deal
PS should have signed Machado he was the better fit…just saying
13morg13
It’s clear Harper doesn’t want to play in Philly.
gofish 2
MAKE IT STOP
Vizionaire
why isn’t the site deleting political statements?
Cat Mando
He isn’t worth what is being offered. Please Phillies, walk away. You blew it by not going over $300m for Machado who is much more consistent.
washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/02/28/ignore-scott-…
ccasper69
Why would he go to SF when their manager is retiring at the end of the year.
OnMy11Six
They’ll probably hire a new one
petfoodfella
The team will all be self-managed. Each player has an equal amount of say.
slider32
We know Harper is getting stupid money, I see him going to the Dodgers. They give him the best chance to win. The weather, park, and team are all a plus.
macstruts
I’ve got a handle on it. Boras has the Phillies in a circular firing squad.
How he gets teams to always bid against themselves is beyond me.
SupremeZeus
Rehash. Either Phillies long term or a short term west coast deal. Boras already is taking the L. At the winter meetings he called Harper a once in a generation player and said he would secure a deal valued between $400M-$500M. Wrap-it-up.
Jimcarlo Slaton
“The Phillies have been around $270-300 million and haven’t moved…and that’s not gonna get it done” -Jim Duquette
If true, yeah, Phillies are all but out unless they’re talking 7 years.
DadsInDaniaBeach
I don’t believe that for one second
flerkis
who?
yawn…
Jimcarlo Slaton
Jim Croquette, another in the heap of questionable reporters. Former GM.
imgman09
W. E. S. T
batty
I, like many, picked the Phillies to sign Harper for the contest. But at this point, it feels obvious that Harper & Boras are really just using the Phillies to try and get the Giants and Dodgers to up their offers. No one likes to be used like this. I think at this late date, i’d tell him “Final offer and it comes off the table at noon tomorrow”. If no agreement is met by then, then i shift to Keuchel and Kimbrel.
BigSexy
I can see Dodgers offering something like a front loaded 5 years @ 45 mil AAV (225MM Total) with an opt out after 3/4 seasons. The pitch would be that if he keeps his current level of production he could set up himself up for a 200 mil + contract after opting out in 3 years , already pocketing a huge amount. That allows him to play for a serious WS contender, increase his marketability (playing under the LA bright lights), and maximize his earnings. Worst case scenario – he falls off heavy and ‘only’ ends up with a measely 225M in his bank acct.
A'sfaninLondonUK
That begs the question would you take $350m over ten or $225 over five years?
What’s the most he could make from age 31?
From the value point of view how many more seats & shirts will he sell – we need a +MAR (Marketability above replacement stat) – David Beckham in (our) football was exactly the same – only an above average player, but marketing gold.
BigSexy
The goal in taking the 5 year contract would be to opt out after 3 years having already pocketed 135, or even 150Mil (assuming its front loaded) and being on the open market again at 29yrs old. I agree with your point on his marketability and how much he increases team revenue, sales, etc. being a good question. Though I was more referring to increasing his own marketability outside of baseball (i.e. big endorsement deals, becoming a bigger name for non baseball fans, etc).
martras
Prince Fielder. That’s the 800lb gorilla in the room for Harper. A freak injury means Harper’s career ends and so do his paydays.
Prince Fielder will still be earning $24M per year this year and next year because he’s not medically approved to play. He didn’t formally retire so he keeps getting paid.
Central Valley
As a Giants fan, I hope Harper signs with us. However, my gut tells me he’ll sign with the Dodgers. The Giants desperately need Harper more than the Dodgers. The Dodgers are loaded either way.
When the only Giant at bat I stop everything to watch is Madison Bumgarner, you know your offense needs work. Either way, it’s time to end the circus and start playing baseball.
The Ghost of Bobby Bonilla
The Diamondbacks and Rays have jumped into the bidding as mystery teams.
scottn59c
Says who?
scottn59c
Man, every time it looks like this saga is over, Boras manages to dig up another chump. First it was getting Philly to bid against itself, then about leveraging SF’s “panic and desperation” and then about “obliterating Greinke’s AAV” record and now…he’s cycling back to the Nats and anyone else who might have interest? Like NYY? Cubbies? This hardly sounds like the “beginning of the end”. This sounds like it could drag on for a lot longer.
playicy
Sign w/ the Indians, so u can play with the Akron rubber ducks bryce( lmao)
Scott Kliesen
I would be real concerned about his rather violent swing holding up as he ages. No wonder the Dodgers are reportedly only willing to go 5 years on him.. They must not think his swing will stand the test of time either.
goldenmisfit
San Francisco Giants are panicking? Yeah, that’s a team you want to go to a team that makes decisions based on the fact they are panicking over team interest and ticket sales.
bigrickdeemann
Why would he want to bury himself on the Giants? They will always be behind the Dodgers who have a running start to winning a WS. The Giants are in rebuild mode and extended on several contracts Cueto and Smarj.a broken Posey at 22 mil and the rest. Overextended and stuck with 5 very bad deals. He might move them up one position in the West as AZ is tanking but so what? The Phillies make more sense as he makes them a solid contender. . The Dodgers aren’t for real, no chance there, they are being played up by Boras.
Roll
Its not a baseball decision but a personal decision … Its closer to where his home is / where he wants to live and they are paying more in total than the dodgers. Also you have to have a thick skin to play in Philly. San Fran fans pretty much have their start back through thick and thin it seems which im sure also plays on his mind.
leftcoaster
All this fuss over a .249 hitter. Smh.
number1dodger
That’s what I thought
Aaron Sapoznik
Scott Boras could be “circling back” to the White Sox.
Chisox GM Rick Hahn had an extensive interview (mlb.com/whitesox/news/rick-hahn-talks-white-sox-ma…) with the local media yesterday regarding what his team plans are in the wake of the Manny Machado whiff. He was quite candid about the organizations disappointment in losing out to the Padres. He was also asked this question which resulted in a less candid remark:
Why not take the money proposed to Machado and present a higher guarantee to another premium free agent such as Bryce Harper?
“I’m not going to get into any of that.”
This is precisely the White Sox front office policy when they are still in negotiations for a free agent. It was during the Machado talks and may still be in regards to Harper.
ni300ne
Please just make it end already so we can all move on.
AndyMeyer
Time to play “The Bryce is Right”
San Francisco Giants, come on down!
Philadelphia Phillies, come on down!
Los Angeles Dodgers, come on down!
And here is your host, Scott Boras!!!!
Couldn’t help it. I’ll show myself out….
WarrenSpahn
The season ticket and preseason sales must be really bad for Larry Baer to get this panicked. He sees signing Harper as a way to pump up ticket sales. I doubt if Bochy is as enthusiastic. This has to have a very deflating effect on the Williamson, Duggar, Slater, etc. crew hoping for spots in the Giants outfield.
libbylogan510
The Dodgers are not interested in signing Harper for the money he is demanding. Really, where has Friedman given out contracts of that size? He has never given out a contract for $100 million, and you think he’s going to give one out for an excess of $300 million. They are only participating to push up the price tag for the other team (Phillies or Giants) that does sign him. I’m not criticizing Friedman, but just look at the history. The Dodgers don’t feel threatened by the Giants, with or without Harper.
goldenmisfit
They have never shelled out more than 100 million? Clayton Kershaw‘s last contract was for over 200 million.
BlueSkyLA
Kershaw’s extension was signed before Friedman. He’s talking about the contracts that the Dodgers have signed over the last four years under Friedman. None have reached $100M. Not even Kershaw’s new contract guarantees him that much. Is this is a hard-and-fast rule? We don’t really know, but it does look like more than a coincidence.
Hondo_Lane
If ESPN is correct and Haroer agrees to the dooodgers terms he will miss out on over $100 million guaranteed he could get from other offers.
Boras would not let that happen.
But if Harper doesn’t go to the dooodgers he will never know what it feels like to win an NL West title, then lose a world series and get a NL championship ring ;-(
alaman
Sign him but not for more the 5 years!
cscd1111
Only a fool would turn down more money,to play in a city of preference,these professional athletes are treated like kings, in any town, especially the city of Philadelphia.
solaris602
The irony of this drama is that the real winners will be the teams that DIDN’T get Harper.
kenly0
Well, now it’s time to circle back to the Cubs like they asked Boras to do. I know everyone is saying that they’re broke. But, maybe they’ve been penny pinching to have the money to sign Harper. Just have to get the Giants to take Heyward.
InvalidUserID
I wonder if Bryce wants all this limelight and attention.
david klein
Nightengale should quit while he’s ahead he makes Mike Francesa seem like a soothsayer
Jean Matrac
Everyone saying Harper should sign short term contract because he’ll still be young when he’s a FA again, are forgetting about the risk of injury. Players want security, A 10-year contract, with opt-outs, is much more preferable to something short-term regardless of the AAV.
leftcoaster
This Dodger fan is praying to the Big Dodger In The Sky for Harper to sign a massive, long term deal with the battery chuckers. The more money and years the better.
AndyMeyer
Maybe you should pray for a team that can actually win a World Series when they go back to back years
wronghanded
But then us Dodger fans can’t brag about the fact that we’ve lost more World Series than any other franchise… that’s right, just try and catch those 14 WS losses that the Dodgers have! Burn!
vikingbluejay67
I’m all for the players getting theirs but at this point I’d be happy to see all 3 teams walk away. Leave him at the altar like a jilted bride.
A'sfaninLondonUK
Bit bemused as to why it only seems to be NL teams are in on Harper when – as such and in situ in the NL – he can’t DH and therefore has to play questionable defence. Does the marketability therefore depend upon people paying to watch his questionable defence – rather than four at bats say with David Ortiz at around S25m?
What a clueless English guy is asking is this – are they all (the NL teams) paying an extra 10-15 million a year to watch Harper play mediocre defence because the name on his shirt in the field – will be worth more than if he was sat in the dugout for 95% of the game as a DH?
Swinging Friars
The senior circuit doesn’t worry about such things. This is where ballplayers come to play ball. No tagging out!
A'sfaninLondonUK
Nice riposte but you see where I’m coming from? How much extra are they playing for a franchise player? Over the last four seasons I’m absolutely guessing that Khris Davis will have hit more RBIs than Bryce Harper. I am not saying Davis non defence, or mediocre base-running, in any way equate to Harper – but for baseball reasons alone is Harper really worth $20 – $25million a year more?
Swinging Friars
I do
It’s the great hype machine. Some players get the benefit of it while most don’t. This understanding is what wins fantasy championships ;0)
A'sfaninLondonUK
Thanks Friars – you win today’s oasis of sense in a desert of tomfoolery award… I do wish the teams involved would state – we think he’s a reasonable player but he will put more bums on seats than a nationwide dose of Delhi belly….
Meow Meow
I don’t think there’s a great concern that Harper will become such a defensive liability that he’ll be DH-bound, even by his mid-30s. And even *if* things seemed to be trending that way on a long-term contract a team would have plenty of time to try and adapt him to first base down the road for the last few years of the contract.
As to the core of the question, why only NL teams seem interesting in bidding for Harper, my only guess is that parity in the AL is a joke right now. The contending teams are all high-payroll already, and most of the fringe teams likely don’t view Harper as enough of a difference maker for the money.
A'sfaninLondonUK
Hello Karkat
I don’t agree with the DH to 1B response. Honestly think the idea that any lumbering idiot can play 1B is a mistake. I remain unsigned.
Agree entirely with your second point – that’s something I hadn’t considered.
The moment the Dodgers cleared their outfield I thought Harper was nailed on a Dodger. I still think that he would offer more on field value to an AL team with occasional “rest” at DH…
Kormansolar
I would like to see Philly withdraw their offer and say Harper not worth the money. That should cause other bidders to reduce offers.
14thor
With the Dodgers Harper becomes the highest paid player annually, remains close to home, instantly contends for a championship and only needs to be a complementary player rather than the main guy.
The Giants will still stink next year and for a few more. They’re not set up for the future like the Padres. It’s looking like Harper doesn’t want to go to Philly or he would signed by now.
stymeedone
When you sign for that type of money, You are NOT a complementary player. Playing like anything other than the Main Guy means you are a bust!
14thor
That money means yes you should be the main guy, but on a talented team like the Dodgers no he doesn’t. He could slump in a short World Series and the offense could be carried by Turner, Seager, Muncy, Bellinger etc.
disadvantage
Warning: Your Dodger bias is shining through heavily. You list everything wonderful and nice about the Dodgers, and everything you perceive as a negative for other teams.
If the Dodgers want Harper, they should have ponied up a long time ago and made it happen. It’s not like they’re hurting for money (these aren’t the McCourt Dodgers, after all). And it seems Bryce WANTS to play in LA, so they are the ones holding back.
And Padres aren’t set up for the future? What? They have one of the best farm system in the MLB! Signing bigger named guys like Manny and Hosmer (whether you agree with his ability, he was paid good money as a free agent), with the influx of young talent should make San Diego, which is already a gorgeous city, a desirable landing spot for future free agents.
14thor
What bias? First I don’t want him on the Dodgers, I made it clear I don’t believe they need him. I was merely stating what the allure would be in signing with them and why they are still being so considered despite an unwillginess to go to a decade.
Saying the Giants have no bright future is reality, not biased. I actually do believe the Padres have a bright future and Manny only helps them compete sooner.
VonPurpleHayes
Why didn’t he sign with the Dodgers already? Or the Giants? Why is Boras still reaching out to other teams. He wants the best offer period. It has nothjng to do with not preferring certain cities.
14thor
Tell that to Philly that is supposedly holding the best offer in hand for some time now and has the owner flying out to try to convince him to take over $300 million.
goldenmisfit
This is real simple the reason why Scott is dragging this out in my opinion I think Harper wants to go to the Dodgers but wants the 10 year deal. So Scott figuring the Dodgers have given in a little by upping their offer from four years up to six thinking if I drag this on just a little longer maybe the Dodgers will finally give in completely an offer the 10.
1988wasalongtimeago
I hate speculation
ReverieDays
He’s not even close to being the best player in baseball, why are teams happy to pay him like he is?
Cat Mando
It’s the Boras Mantra….”If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull$hit.”
kodion
You nailed it!
Boras Spin for the Win …That he convinced multiple, supposedly intelligent people that Harper is worth this kind of money has to be almost entirely about marketability.
Swinging Friars
I agree with both of you
Unfortunately I think that means that Boras is good at his job
VonPurpleHayes
Because he’s the best free agent in baseball. The 6 or so better players are signed.
bbatardo
Harper is a great player and will make any team which signs him better, but from the rumors seems like he will be getting between 330-350 million, but is he that much better than Machado who signed for 300 million?
imindless
Only way dodgers get him is 5/250. I think they are just there to elevate the price honestly
VonPurpleHayes
So for all the people saying he would’ve signed with the Dodgers and Giants already if they were offering “stupid money,” that theory seems to be debunked. Harper wants money. That’s it. If the Royals come out of nowhere with a 400/15 offer, he’s playing in Kansas City.
I don’t blame the guy for wanting to get paid. But at this point, I’d prefer the Phillies to bow out if the bidding goes over 330.
number1dodger
Bryce Harper is still a free agent, but one Las Vegas sportsbook has him as the favorite to win the National League MVP regardless.
Willy Mays
Yeah he was the favorite last year also at 3 to 1 Kris Bryant was 4 to 1 Christian Yelich was 200 to 1. Also at 200 to 1 Wilson Contreras Domingo Santana and Carlos Santana Boy they really know there stuff huh
number1dodger
I found that on ESPN. There is a sales pitch Harper can use.
Swinging Friars
espn….there you go
SFGiantsGallore
This Bryce Harper saga will end in so much criticism regardless of where he signs. If the Dodgers had any offer similar to the Phils or Giants he would have already signed. I think he truly wants to be a Dodger for multiple reasons. It would be great exposure for him and they would market the S*** out of him. So many factors to consider in this ongoing saga.
SFGiantsGallore
It would be much similar to Lebron signing with the Lakers.
hexum311
Giants
Giantsbaby93
Highest:12y 400 mil.
Lowest:10year 350 mil.
Somewhere around there would be my guess.
wheel
I say Adios Harper. Tired of your s… Phillies let’s move on to both Keuchel and Kimbel We can sign both for less total money and years than Harper and round out pitching staff. We can win in the East with what we have and add what we need by playoff time. Then let’s go after home town (area) boy Trout. I like our additions to this point and we have an abundance of young talented outfielders in our system. Some who have been showing great promise so far in the short spring to this point.
DarkSide830
in that case you can take him, Giants. No remorse here if he wants MORE than $350 mil.
WAR_OVERRATED
Your guess and Boras dream… A one year 100 rbi’s person overrated.
Tassaio
I would be very surprised to see Harper sign with the Phillies over the Giants or Dodgers. The only east coast team that could sweep in and get him would be the Yankees. They just don’t seem interested at all.
Juggy
Harper is not signing with Philadelphia because He knows it is an absolute cesspool. And Philadelphia is a dirty filthy city
raef715
well most players dont live in the city, and lots of players have loved playing here, so i guess they disregard your unbiased personal opinion.
imindless
I think the players that play there have no choice and are under contract….so yeah they will say they like it toll the leave lol
AndyMeyer
Grow up
tossmycobbsalad
Don’t know if it’s been brought up yet but I wonder how much of a factor the state tax in which he signs is to him. I know CA is outrageous. I believe it was the main factor in why Sandoval initially left for Boston over Sf even though both offers were all but the same
nyarachnid
He is a West coast guy. And he would be the biggest star on Giants not so with Dodgers. If they pony up with the bucks he will be wearing a Giants uniform for next 10 years
Willy Mays
Maybe Kershaw would be bigger star in terms of fandom but in terms of recognition he would be right up there on Dodgers. Truthfully Madbum and Posey are pretty well kown guys with Giants so I’m not sure that’s really a factor. Bigger factor would be the much greater chance of winning on the Dodgers. Real baseball fans would know a lot more of the Dodgers players but not the casual fans who make up the large proportion of people who are going to the games
pustule bosey
maybe maybe not, i would be surprised if there weren’t a lot of opt outs and if there are, given a year or 2 of bounceback he could take those opt outs
sportznut1000
i have this gut feeling that the dodgers are really only in this to drive up the giants offer. if they even are at all, i kind of think boras is leaking info that the dodgers are heavily involved just to get the giants ownership to up their ante. that has to be a big reason why harper hasnt signed with philly yet. he wants to be on the west coast, padres are out. giants are in but offer wasnt anywhere close to phillys, so boras leaks the dodgers in vegas story so that the giants increase their bid to 10 years. now that being said, i really hope my giants land him even if they have to pay a kings ransom
Balk
Teams don’t waste upper managements time going out to meet a player just to drive up the price. Crazy talk. I think the dodgers would like to see Harper in uniform, at a high annual price, but they have a lot and I mean a lot of players in the outfield. They should’ve traded heavy fro Realmuto and signed Harper to free up space for him.
Koamalu
Upper management AND the teams manager left spring training to go meet with Harper. They don’t do something like that to drive up the price or to make low ball offers. They only do that if they think they have an offer he might accept. In other words, an offer that is more than 10/300. Common sense folks. Common sense.
raef715
the Phils do finally need to put some kind of deadline on this, unless they somehow havent gotten up to 300 mil as Jim Duquette reported, which would be hard for me to believe.
Besides the on the field help, Middleton wanted a free agent splash like this to ignite the fan base, and sell tickets and merchandise, but at this point, it feels like more and more Phillies fans are tilting to the side of not wanting him to come to where it might be more than 50% against, , so it makes it less worthwhile to go ahead and sign him. realize a signing, and a good press conference could turn some around but its nothing like if they signed him even just 2 weeks ago.
Cat Mando
I know that most Phillies fans expected Machado or Harper (I for one was in the Manny camp) but at this point I don’t think all that many would be upset with management if they don’t sign Harper.
It has gone on too long and he is not worth the asking price. Ownership and FO just need to walk away. They made some fine additions this winter and there is still time to add a SP, if they want. Just walk away.
Bartman
Tired of Harper. Please sign with someone so we can forget about you.
In 5 years the team that signs him will really regret it and their franchise will suffer for at least five years after that. $30M players get tired and fat after five years and forget how to produce or their body breaks down and they can’t produce or they drug up and get suspended. The only thing that makes them viable are stupid greedy owners – they deserve what they get.
Watch Machado and San Diego in five years. Watch Stanton and the Yankees in five years – oh yea the Yankees already feel it like the stuckees with Ellsbury.
Balk
More bull. That’s like saying us giants fans don’t appreciate Posey and we regret giving him all that money cause he’s old. He’s still marketable and so would Harper.
WAR_OVERRATED
More bull indeed. Harper is not and should not be considered a star in mlb. Just one 100 rbi’s season after 7 years. A .211 avg in post seasons. More injuries will come as he gets older. He doesn’t worth the $21m he received last year. Nobody here can see the future, but based on his historical data he is not even a star in baseball. Washington knows that too.
Koamalu
What is bull is anyone thinking RBI is a stat you should pay any attention to. How many baserunners did he have? How does that compare to what others had? What did he hit with runners on base? (.295/.420/.523/.943) What was his OPS? What was his OBP? Those things matter. RBI does not. We have a better understanding of the game in the 21st century than they did in the 19th century when they though RBI matter.
How many players have had a 10.0 WAR season before they turned 26? Since players peak at 26-30 years old, how much better will Harper be the next 5 years than he has been the last 7 years? Where does Harper rank all time for players through 25 years old? Those are questions worth asking and the answers are why they are talking about a deal for 10/300++ for him.
mike156
He’s young enough to stay productive beyond five years, and young enough to give decent production in the five years after that. He’s a genuine talent–no Trout, Betts, etc, but a real talent. Of course he’s going to be overpaid, but that’s the nature of the beast.
mike156
“have vowed to provide Harper with either the biggest overall free-agent contract in North American sports history or the largest average annual salary anyone has ever received in the sport.”
These teams took oaths to make sure Harper is getting the biggest and shiniest of all time? Really? Nightengale might need a little nap time.
I don’t have any doubt Harper is going to be extraordinarily rich. But the purple prose is getting to me.
yamsi1912
Largest contrac until Trout signs his extension. He will be the only player to live up to it too.
norcalblue
Jeff’s synthesis of the Nightengale reporting and analysis, along with other bay area reports on the “ownership driven pursuit of Harper” is interesting and may well be the most insightful analysis I have read to date–or maybe not. Only time will tell..
Increasingly, I believe Friedman’s offer is rooted in the belief that Harper really prefers the LAD over the other two for personal and professional reasons. He prefers the west coast and he knows the Dodgers are a better fit for him (e.g., they are serious WS contenders and LA is closest to LV). On that basis, AF’s “record setting AAV offer” provides Harper the opportunity to play where he wants to play, opt out in 2-3 years when the market might be more favorable to players and maximize his income during the years of the contract.
I suspect the reason this deal is still not done is that Borass has different priorities than the player and is reluctant, for his own selfish professional reasons, to sign on to a deal that doesn’t break the contract record he (the agent) cares about.
I totally support the play Friedman is making. He either gets Harper on terms that work for his organization or he drives the price up for the Giants and they sign Harper on terms that will compromise their long-term rebuild efforts. The fact that the Giants’ pursuit is being driven more by ownership (concerned with low ticket sales and fan unrest) is a very telling piece in Jeff’s reporting. I have said all along, Zaidi is well aware of the long-term implications of what a $300+ million investment means for the Giants rebuild.
Friedman has positioned the Dodgers in a win-win spot..
laswagn
I’m thinking this is a 2 horse race between the Dodgers and Giants, unless the Phillies finally bring out the stupid money, say $400 mil.
Johnny V
Soo I just read an article that states, Phillies fans plan to boo Harper to the extreme if he doesn’t sign with them because it has taken such an emotional toll on the fanbase lol.. You gotta love how silly this all is. I’m guilty of checking multiple times a day for a Bryce Harper update. Still hoping he ends up on the Giants. Splash hits would be a thing again.
pjmcnu
As has been noted by others in this context, Stanton’s contract was not a free agent contract, it was an extension. So any team that tells Harper ot will break the FA record only needs to top Machado.
rgreen
I’ve read the Phillies offer is for 270,a and if they don’t get him,they have no plans on going for Keuchel,and it’s just a maybe on Kimbrel……I really gotta say,if all of that is true,im a really disappointed fan.After hearing all offseason that “we feel good about our chances of signing one of them” and “we have visions of signing Harper,Keuchel,& Kimbrel”…..Gonna have a repeat of competing in front of empty seats.
Aaron Sapoznik
I have a hard time believing that is the “final” offer from the Phillies. I also believe that the White Sox would trump such a proposal and may yet do so by taking their Machado bid and guaranteeing those 9th and 1oth year vesting options.
There is little doubt that the Dodgers would be Harper’s first choice all things being equal but I also maintain that he prefers Chicago over Philadelphia and San Francisco if LA insists on a shorter term deal and he is determined to take a 10yr/$300M + bid.
I believe that Harper’s problem with the Phillies is less the city itself and has more to do with facing the Nationals 18 times a season along with the intense competition in what may be MLB’s toughest division now and going forward.
I don’t see San Francisco as an ideal fit for Harper either, be it with his Mormon lifestyle, their “old” roster and the fact that the Dodgers, Padres and Rockies figure to field better teams in the short and long term. Even their ballpark doesn’t play well with Harper’s left-handed power bat. With SF it’s all about the most dollars and proximity to Las Vegas which the Dodgers can also match.
Meanwhile, the White Sox have plenty of positives to offer Harper aside from the years and dollars. They are his only “suitor” in the AL which means a chance to DH on a day when he would normally rest in the NL, more opportunity to keep him healthy and off of the IL. They offer a hitter/HR friendly park which plays to his strength, providing him with a better opportunity to accumulate offensive numbers that will be Harper’s calling card to the HOF. They are a team on a fast track to becoming an elite MLB franchise and with a chance to dominate quickly in its weakest division. He would become the face of a franchise that might eventually produce other stars like Eloy Jimenez, Luis Roberts and Nick Madrigal, to say nothing of their young high octane arms like Michael Kopech and Dylan Cease. While Chicago doesn’t offer the proximity to Las Vegas OF LA or SF, the White Sox do train in Glendale, Arizona which offers better distance than Philadelphia and their Florida spring site. Playing for the White Sox would also mean facing the Nationals just once every three years during the regular season, never in spring training and only as a World Series opponent in the postseason. Chicago would also provide Harper his best marketing opportunity aside from the Dodgers.
rgreen
Well,i did read that on a site I’d normally ignore….I typically ignore all rumors not on this site,but the Phillies,Bryce & Manny had me going out my comfort zone this offseason.
Now,where will 1 of the best closers of all time end up?
KCJ
There are a lot of people who hate the most popular athletes simply because of the massive over-exposure they get from the media. I can remember people hating Jordan, Kobe, and Tiger Woods for this reason, while today Tom Brady and LeBron James suffer from the same phenomenon. I’ve never felt this way myself, but I must admit that the ridiculous amount of press involved in this dragged-out free agency process is making me never want to hear the name BRYCE HARPER again! Pick a damn team already! You will never notice the difference between $330 million and $340 million, so decide where you’re going to be happiest get moving! Good lord!
jb10000lakes
I think pretty soon we’ll see teams go outside their own pocketbook to sign players, by partnering with local companies as they do now for signage, etc. So the walk ups and video screens could say/show each and every at bat: “Bryce Harper, brought to you by Rice-A-Roni” and for that, R-A-R pays $10M/yr of Bryce’s contract.. Shortly thereafter, those “sponsored” players will be allowed to have a little patch (like the NBA is doing now) with a Sponsor logo. on their jerseys
jb10000lakes
It’d be more transparent, but not all that different than the ‘wink wink’ shoe company relationships with the NCAA..
Koamalu
Spent the morning in Angels camp talking to old friends and bosses. Some interesting things I learned. The Angels are pretty sure they can get Trout extended. Not sure what that would take, but my guess is 8/300 with a couple of option years.
More interesting was all the talk about Harper. From what I heard from them, the Angels are not the mystery team but have checked in on him over the past week. Boras is saying he has multiple offers over $325 million and the Angels are not willing to go there. The Phillies offer is more than that but the rumors are that it is “filled with deferred money and incentives”. The Nationals made an offer they thought was fair in December and will not increase that offer, but if Harper circled back around to them they would sign him for that amount. Bill guessed that they were one of the offers over $325 million. The Padres are not out of it but apparently are not willing to increase their offer which is less guaranteed dollars than the Giants. All 5 offers on the table including the Dodgers are for 10 years and 2 are more.
To me, guys I played with back in the day and worked with are a much more reliable source than Olney or Nightengale. Other than knowing what Boras said he had in hand and the Angels position, everything else they said is guesses and rumors just like the writers out there. We will see how it all plays out.
yamsi1912
Would be fun to see an angels outfield of Upton/Trout/Harper but it wont happen. The angels also gave some nice prospects looking to get their first cup of coffee soon. The kids are looking pretty good in spring training.
Koamalu
Adell looked like a monster and could be in Anaheim next season. Sooner if he tears up Mobile this summer.
BaseballisLife
Your sources were right about the Phillies. Nice call.
Cat Mando
How? He said “it is “filled with deferred money and incentives”.” which is not the case. Also The Dodgers offered 4/$45m per, not 10 years.
BostonFan
When will teams just admit it? Bryce Harper is not that good why would he get a record contract? But then again, I don’t think he’s worth 30mil either
BostonFan
This aged very well. Harpers signs 12 min later. I still don’t believe he’s worth 30mil
stan lee the manly
San Francisco got him the moment they started acting from a place of desperation. Why not stack another massive contract on the Jenga Tower of massive contracts they already have.
WAR_OVERRATED
Bryce Harper was number 32 in offensive WAR in 2018…Not even a star… Super ultra overrated by MLB and Boras:
espn.com/mlb/war/leaders/_/type/offensive/year/201…
Go play in Japan or Mexico.
Koamalu
One of the top 32 in the game and that is not a star? One of a handful that have had a 10.0 WAR season before 26 years old and that is not a star? .889 OPS and that is not a star? 31st all time for players through age 25 season and that is not a star? Have you considered getting professional help for your issues?
DadsInDaniaBeach
PHINALLY….HARPER TO SIGN WITH THE PHILLIES…JUST GOT A NOTIFICATION FROM MLB AT BAT
DadsInDaniaBeach
The long wait is over…Todd Zolecki reports Harper to sign with Phillies
Dads<-a happy camper
Snapper
Trout, Lindor and Betts will get 400m plus