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Quick Hits: Keuchel, Marwin, Padres, Tribe, Wilson, Athletics

By Connor Byrne | February 10, 2019 at 4:43pm CDT

Free-agent left-hander Dallas Keuchel asked for a six- to seven-year contract worth $25MM to $30MM per annum at the beginning of the offseason, while fellow ex-Astros teammate and Scott Boras client Marwin Gonzalez sought a deal in the $60MM neighborhood, according to Buster Olney of ESPN. Both Keuchel and Gonzalez remain on the unemployment line, meaning they haven’t landed offers in those ranges, and it’s not surprising in either case if those asking prices are accurate. Entering the offseason, MLBTR predicted an $82MM guarantee for the 32-year-old Keuchel and $36MM for the soon-to-be 30-year-old Gonzalez, who wants a pact similar to the four-year, $56MM accord fellow utilityman Ben Zobrist signed with the Cubs going into the 2016 campaign. Zobrist, however, reached the market as a far more accomplished player than Gonzalez has been to this point.

More from around the game…

  • With Wil Myers, Manuel Margot, Hunter Renfroe, Franchy Cordero, Franmil Reyes and Travis Jankowski in the mix, the Padres have a surplus of major league outfielders. However, “it’s looking less likely by the day” they’ll trade any of those players before the season, AJ Cassavell of MLB.com writes. In the event a deal doesn’t come together in the next couple months, the Padres could demote anyone from the group expect for Myers, who’s the only one without a  minor league option remaining.
  • Before the Indians signed him to a minor league deal this past Thursday, reliever Alex Wilson “had interest from 10 or 11 different clubs, different minor league options,” he tells Paul Hoynes of cleveland.com. The presences of now-injured shortstop Francisco Lindor and catcher Roberto Perez helped influence Wilson’s decision to sign with the Tribe, the right-hander added. The 32-year-old Wilson spent the past few years with the AL Central rival Tigers, with whom he logged a terrific 3.20 ERA and posted 5.85 K/9 against 2.11 BB/9 over 264 2/3 innings.
  • Athletics righty James Kaprielian suffered a setback in his shoulder and will undergo an MRI, manager Bob Melvin told Jane Lee of MLB.com, Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle and other reporters Sunday. The severity is unknown, but it’s still a disappointing development for the A’s and the 24-year-old Kaprielian, who hasn’t pitched professionally since 2016 because of shoulder problems. Kaprielian, a first-round pick in 2016, was a key part of the A’s return from the Yankees for Sonny Gray in 2017.
  • Regardless of what happens with Kaprielian, Oakland “would love” to pick up one or two more starters prior to the season, Slusser writes. The low-budget Athletics aren’t looking to spend a lot, per Slusser, but there are a few pitchers on the market who could appeal to them. Free agents Brett Anderson and Edwin Jackson were key members of last year’s playoff-bound A’s starting-staff, for instance, and they have shown interest in the unsigned Gio Gonzalez, an Athletic from 2008-11.
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  1. RedSox4Life4ever

    4 years ago

    What is Boras and his clients smoking???

    Reply
    • Strike Four

      4 years ago

      They aren’t smoking the profits they deserve that the greedy owners are pocketing from their hard work.

      Reply
      • excusemeflo

        4 years ago

        Great, now comes the “owners are greedy” vs. “players and agents are greedy” debate

        Reply
        • DTD

          4 years ago

          All 3 are greedy but the agents are the worst of the 3. They’re ruining sports in general. They’re leeches.

        • wakejeff

          4 years ago

          The issue is not greed. Owners fall into two categories: the ones that want to win so bad that they’re willing to make financial sacrifices, and the ones that don’t care enough about winning. The latter has no problem with pocketing the massive sums of $$ they receive. They end up looking greedy, but the real problem is they don’t care about the on-field success of their franchise.

        • johnsilver

          4 years ago

          Game was around for how many decades and was the most popular for how many WITHOUT agents?

          Whatever became of hand shake and verbal agreements between parties? Could it be the huge increase of all types of lawyers everywhere who do little other than want to litigate everything to the max? Yes.. there is also much more money involved.. Games were at 1 time much cheaper, then also so were salaries.

        • nonadhominem

          4 years ago

          I disagree. I think they care about the on field success, it’s just that analytics has changed their viewpoint of how to achieve it and sustain it.

        • iverbure

          4 years ago

          Or 3 are smart enough to listen to the GMs and realize spending a extra 10,20 80 mil doesn’t make a difference in the playoffs.

          Like everyone here probably thinks Dallas Keuchel would affect a teams win total by like 4 wins when that’s just false.

          The reality is when playing a .600+ win % team in the playoffs the odds of winning are nearly 50/50 at worst. Even adding one of Harper or Machado doesn’t move the % a while 1% so when saying the owner doesn’t want to win because he’s cheap is ludicrous.

        • Strike Four

          4 years ago

          No owner is making financial sacrifices, they are billionaires, this is their hobby.

        • Coach Him

          4 years ago

          major league was such a great movie. this debate reminds me off that

        • KevinS

          4 years ago

          Exactly, 2 types of owners. One group makes the other look bad.

        • davidcoonce74

          4 years ago

          Yes, before “agents” there were no such thing as player contracts and players were happy just to play for whatever money the teams gave them. They never held out or anything. I can’t honestly tell if you’re trolling or just completely ignorant of the history of baseball and especially of the complete exploitation of players before the reserve clause was abolished.

        • SocraticGadfly

          4 years ago

          You forgot the third leg of the stool: Telecommunications agencies and sports networks are greedy.

      • zachgwest

        4 years ago

        I agree owners are greedy but also agree players don’t need to be paid more. I would like to see money allocated to fan experience.

        Reply
        • wakejeff

          4 years ago

          That won’t happen unless fans become so tired of ticket prices that they stop going to games.

        • 22Leo

          4 years ago

          I already have stopped going to games.

      • snotrocket

        4 years ago

        Why do you think business owners own businesses? For fun?

        Reply
      • sethesq

        4 years ago

        gtfoh

        If players want to make owner money then become an owner instead of a player

        … unless the belief is that I can walk up to Michael Bloomberg and demand a larger cut of the revenue of Bloomberg LP?

        Reply
      • Payne Train

        4 years ago

        Every year the players thinks they are worth twice as much as they really are … kinda like a sleezy car salesman … drive off the lot and see if they call you with a better offer

        Reply
      • dobsonel

        4 years ago

        I love how so many people are quick to label the owners greedy with absolutely no knowledge of the actual total expenditures of a baseball franchise. Record high revenue does not necessarily mean record high profit.

        I can almost guarantee that anyone on here saying the owners are greedy have never owned their own business.

        Reply
        • BobSacamano

          4 years ago

          How noble of these owners! Haha jk, can we lighten up now?

        • frankiegxiii

          4 years ago

          People buy baseball teams so they can break even and not make a profit, do people not know this?

      • Flapjax55

        4 years ago

        I like both of these guys, but the opening prices are pure insanity.

        The Boras of recent times is now getting burned because he seriously thinks he can keep pushing the market upward. Nope. Owners are too smart. This is a simple market correct. Not collusion. Not owner greed. They are just done overpaying and getting burned.

        Reply
      • jkurk_22

        4 years ago

        Both are greedy. That doesn’t mean teams should spend stupid money. It’s a BUSINESS. Businesses are only there to make money. Why do people hate people who make money so much? Are they greedy sometimes? Yeah. But it’s America and they have that right if they so choose. And they employ many at the same time. People need to stop being so dang entitled with other people’s money

        Reply
    • mpoweror

      4 years ago

      My thoughts exactly…

      6-7 years? Puh-lease. There’s only one team dumb enough to cut a fat 6 or 7 year contract: Miami. And they’re in permanent dumpster fire mode.

      Boras doesn’t understand market dynamics at all. Teams are operating w/ near-perfect information now. The days of emotional, rearview mirror decisions are long gone. Good luck getting >4 years for a pitcher or >$25mil/yr. The numbers prove that such contracts are foolish & crippling. Thus, an agent/player who is demanding such terms looks like, well, a fool.

      A dozen teams (or more) would sign Keuchel for 80/3 or maybe even 100/4 tomorrow. But instead Keuchel is unemployed.

      In any given year, maybe 15 teams can swing an 80/3 or 100/4 contract for a player under-30 y.o. However, only 3-4 teams can afford a 100+/5+ contract in ANY year. In other words, the market is structurally stratified. Just a few teams can afford mega-contracts, yet more & more players are asking for the big, maximum deals. Rosters are still just 25 players, so all these guys are kidding themselves… as if the Cubs/Yankees/Dodgers/Red Sox are going to sign ALL of their pitchers & position players to decade-long, quarter-billion contracts… LOL.

      Reply
  2. Strike Four

    4 years ago

    It’s so dumb how good a fit Keuchel is on the Athletics, but it won’t happen because A’s owners are greedy. He’s EXACTLY the guy they needed in the WC game last year and was built for that park and that defense.

    Reply
    • CursedRangers

      4 years ago

      The A’s generated a profit of $15M in 2017. They also had the lowest local tv ratings in all of baseball (0.56). Agreed that he would be a great fit. But when a player is wanting around $200M it’s hard for them to go after those types of contracts.

      Pretty absurd ask by Boras, in my opinion.

      Reply
      • Strike Four

        4 years ago

        If I was an A’s fan, I’d be very excited with opening the season with
        Keuchel-Luzardo-Fiers-Buccholz-Estrada.

        Really hope A’s get ballsy and start Murphy on opening day and have Luzardo there in the first week of April too.

        Reply
        • arc89

          4 years ago

          Keuchel is a $15 million a year player not $25 million a year. And he is a 4 or 5 year deal not 7 year deal. So you can blame Boras for feeling his head in lala land. A’s are not signing him unless he comes down to earth.

        • Ruff Kuntry

          4 years ago

          Yeah, Boras does this with all his clients. Keuchel is a very good pitcher, but he is no Sale or Scherzer. Any team would be wise not to pay him what Boras is asking for.

  3. Crazytrain10

    4 years ago

    Padres should trade Franmil Reyes to the Braves for Julio. Braves get a young cheap power hitting OF and padres get a cheapish innings eater for their awful rotation for 2 years until some of their prospects are ready.

    Reply
    • Friarfaithful117

      4 years ago

      That is a bad trade for the Padres. Julio is projected at .6 WAR this season at 11.1 million dollars. Total is a negative 5.7 million dollars of value. 12 million next season would have even worse value assuming he maintains his current production or likely declines further.

      Reply
    • padresfanaticfan

      4 years ago

      Just getting Jose Pirela for Julio Teheran would be a win for the Braves with that contract

      Reply
    • Wolverines2

      4 years ago

      Hmmm…how many times are Braves fans going to try to pawn Teheran off on the Padres? Going to go ahead and say no to that offer. If they want innings eaters and don’t feel comfortable with the competition in camp then they can sign a fringe guy or two to “eat innings.” What they had better not do is give away a 23 year old, power hitting outfielder with solid plate discipline who had a very strong second half of 2018. No, they should not do that…

      Reply
      • Crazytrain10

        4 years ago

        Well y’all gotta do something you have a crap rotation and 7 mlb OF on the roster. Julio would greatly benefit from pitching home games in SD. Let’s be honest though, no matter what Preller does it will end up being a waste of the talent coming up. He’s already proven that with the Hosmer signing and Myers extension. Horrible contracts. Go ahead and give moose 75 mil while you’re at it. Y’all will still end up 4th or 5th.

        Reply
        • Wolverines2

          4 years ago

          Thanks for your concern. We will still pass on y’alls Teheran contract. Not sure what a loaded farm system has to do with Hosmer and Myers contracts. As the article stated they all have minor league options. If you’d like to offer a 23 year old pitcher with possibly a very bright future who is controlled at league minimum for the next 5 years, we will be happy to listen. Keep Teheran.

        • Crazytrain10

          4 years ago

          Julio has an 162 average of 3.64 era on 207 IP per year with around 179 Ks. He’s had some really good years pitching for bad Braves teams. He actually pitches very well away from STP. Considering Matt Harvey is making 11 million this year among other worse pitchers making more, makes Julio an attractive SP. he’s just in the way of all the Braves young guys who are ready now. SD prob won’t even keep Reyes on the mlb roster and under use all their guys in favor of the ones they shouldn’t have overpaid. Injuries will happen for teams during ST and I can pretty much guarantee teams will come calling about Julio. So whatever.

        • Padres2019ha

          4 years ago

          Haha well played Wolverines. Way to spin it Crazytrain. You got son’d on your Julio proposal and then had to talk ish about completely different players. NOBODY.WANTS.TEHERAN.

    • bleacherbum

      4 years ago

      No.

      Reply
  4. ruffintumble

    4 years ago

    Keuchel has as much a chance of a 7 year deal worth $30M annually as I do.

    Reply
    • phenomenalajs

      4 years ago

      Bryce, is that you?

      Reply
  5. bigdaddyhacks

    4 years ago

    Owners greedy? No. mediocre players seeking top talent pay.

    Reply
  6. DarkSide830

    4 years ago

    that sonny gray really was a strong example of a lose-lose trade

    Reply
  7. padresfanaticfan

    4 years ago

    Kaprielian was a first-round pick in 2015, not 2016. And his injury troubles are in (or at least started with) the elbow, not the shoulder.

    Reply
  8. Screamer

    4 years ago

    Believe Kaprielian had TJ surgery and the shoulder injury last year coming back

    Reply
  9. nonadhominem

    4 years ago

    Gonzalez seems to be asking for that kind of money based on one great year in the last five. In 4 of the 5 years he was basically a league average hitter. Going into his age 30 season, which outcome is more likely, the great year or the league average ones?

    Keuchel is a different story. He’s been 20 percent better than the average pitcher the last 5 years, but his K/9 has been dropping and he missed parts of two seasons in the last three, so teams are certainly going to have balked at the length and dollars of the contract he’s seeking.

    Reply
    • of9376

      4 years ago

      I agree that Marwin isn’t worth the money he is seeking but 70% of his value is based upon his ability to play multiple positions. To me he is more valuable than say Jed Lowrie or Moustakas.

      Reply
  10. sergefunction

    4 years ago

    The Padres outfield glut is a glut only in that they are all crap. They’ve fallen into a Glut of Crap Trap.

    Travis Fred Jankowski is Clone Cory Spangenberg. Typical Padre player types. The team is contractually stuck with Myers, The rest of those OF’s won’t win anyone anything. Keep, dump, who cares. But since they are still young and cheap – The Padre Way – welcome to another mediocre year of Fred and Glut . Like Bryce Harper or Machado would actually be attracted to this.

    Reply
  11. ChiSoxCity

    4 years ago

    I don’t usually side with the owners, but I’m forced to make an exception here. Boras with his ridiculous contract demands is the primary cause for the pending lockout.

    Reply
    • Cam

      4 years ago

      It’s lazy takes like this, that make the average fan look silly. In a perfect world, people who don’t know what they are talking about, wouldn’t talk. But alas, there you are.

      There is a LOT contributing to the pending lockout – Boras is barely a sliver.

      Reply
      • Samuel

        4 years ago

        Cam;

        It’s lazy takes like this, that make the average fan look silly. In a perfect world, people who don’t know what they are talking about, wouldn’t talk. But alas, there you are.

        There is no “pending lockout”.

        The CBA is in place for another 3 years.

        Reply
        • ChiSoxCity

          4 years ago

          Seeing what’s ahead requires vision.

          I see players who’ve grown accustomed to essentially being overpaid, and owners who aren’t thrilled with the ROI on a number of contracts lately. Hence the inevitable market correction the last two offseasons. Giancarlo Stanton’s contract is cautionary tale. The days of super contracts for above average players are over.

        • Cam

          4 years ago

          And in 3 years time, lockout is a very real possibility. There’s a reason why every reputable baseball outlet is alluding to it. Both sides are already starting to take their stances.

          A potential lockout doesn’t have to be tomorrow, for it to be talked about.

        • mpoweror

          4 years ago

          CBA expires in 3 years, yet that expiration is already impacting the market…

          …so “pending lockout” is closer to reality right now than “situation normal”.

  12. $3768902

    4 years ago

    I think keuchel is 31 this season, isn’t he?

    Reply
  13. Senioreditor

    4 years ago

    Becoming a FA at 32 is no longer a good thing. The age of 7 yr contracts is gone for most players. It’s the new reality. They better get use to it. Even if they strike in a few years I doubt it’ll change much. No more Pujols, Votto, Cano contacts maybe Trout gets one but they’re going to be very rare.

    Reply
    • ChiSoxCity

      4 years ago

      Exactly.

      The player won’t like it, of course. I say pick your battles. Push for earlier free agency and raises for rookie contracts commensurate with performance. In exchange, agree to a cap on the longevity of contracts. A hard cap would be ideal, but the Yankees are paying everyone to keep that off the table permanently.

      Reply
      • mpoweror

        4 years ago

        If players want better contracts, then they should demand equitable revenue sharing among the teams & a salary cap+floor.

        As it stands now, a few mega-stars are killing the FA market the other 99% of players, period. They can’t all play for the Yankees/Cubs/Red Sox/Dodgers… and that’s exactly where the current system is headed: a de facto 4-6 team league w/ 20+ other teams that fill-out the schedule & operate on dwindling subsidies. Simple market dynamics.

        Reply
  14. BoSoxWin

    4 years ago

    This is so typical of Boras, especially over the last 4-5 years. He asks for exhorbant amounts of money for his clients and refuses to budge. Teams get sick of this BS and just move on to Plan B (non-Boras clients). After he overplays his hand, his clients are stuck to sign a 1 year deal at lower than expected rates (see Mike Moustakas last year). Boras seems to be batting about .333 with his clients. I don’t understand why so many players continue to trust him. His overall track record is not that good. He just happened to get some huge deals for a few of the leagues top players when owners weren’t being as analytical as they are today and his methods just don’t work in today’s marketplace.

    Reply
    • nonadhominem

      4 years ago

      BSW, you could be right, but the market is still adjusting, and we’ll have to see if Boras can adjust with it.

      If aging curves are any guide, both Gonzalez and Keuchel are entering their decline years, and it remains to be seen whether teams will budge. Probably not, in my view.

      This is why I think there’s going to be a work stoppage, because if players can’t get their payday like they used to, they are going to have to fight to get it while they are younger.

      I don’t know if shorter arb years and earlier FA is on the horizon, but it seems to me that the owners can adjust to that as well and just keep paying the minimum for younger pre-arb players that are not superstars/stars, and guys like Gonzalez (.589 OPS) may not even get the chance because of the first two years that they have. They’ll just be replaced by younger guys.

      Seems to me that the players need to get the minimum salary raised a lot to get a bigger share of the pie.

      That’s my 2 cents.

      Reply
      • mpoweror

        4 years ago

        “…get the minimum salary raised…”

        either min. salaries are raised or mega-contracts are discharged… can’t have both – markets don’t function that way (only governments do).

        Reply
    • Cam

      4 years ago

      This is the same Scott Boras who managed to get Eric Hosmer 8/144 in a down FA year. The same Hosmer that the analytics movement you point to, absolutely buries.

      You can hate on him if you like, but don’t make absurd statements like “his overall track record is not that good”. It is, whether you like it or not.

      Reply
      • Joe Says...

        4 years ago

        He’s also the same agent that got Moose mere peanuts the same off-season.

        Reply
        • Cam

          4 years ago

          Which is pretty consistent with the veterans market over the last two off-seasons. That isn’t a Boras issue.

          People confuse genuine criticism of him, with a flat out dislike of him.

        • Joe Says...

          4 years ago

          Cam… I have no like or dislike for him. I just don’t think he’s that great for second tier players. He’s usually good for the Bryce Harper level players though. I did see an interview with Jim Duquette on MLB Network talking about dealing with Boras. He didn’t have much good to say about him. When an agent has to deal with GMs he needs to have good relationships with them. There have been owners and GMs that don’t want to deal with him.

        • Cam

          4 years ago

          Boras’ job is literally to pry as much money from those GM’s as possible – if people like dealing with him, then he’s doing something wrong.

          Every off-season, people trumpet the same Boras narrative. And they all go quiet and disappear as fast as they pop up.

        • Joe Says...

          4 years ago

          His job may be to get as much as possible but if the person who he’s trying to get the money from doesn’t like him then the GM will go on to someone else. That’s why Boras isn’t very good for second tier players. A GM may put up with him for the best players but not ordinary players.

        • Samuel

          4 years ago

          The problem is obvious…….

          Over a period of time Mr. Boras has in fact gotten great contracts for most of his players. In that time multiple FO’s and Owners did not get the value they paid for, particularly with 2nd and 3rd tier players. Usually their teams didn’t improve much. So while it’s nice to bring up what the Red Sox got out of JD last year, there are multiple Hosmer-type experiences out there.

          Consequently many organizations will not deal with Mr. Boras – to the point that they will not draft players he represents. And if an existing player under contract changes agents and goes to Mr. Boras, the FO’s immediately attempt to trade him…..only to often find that now other teams don’t want anything to do with the player.

          Gonzalez and Keuchel are perfect examples of where Mr. Boras and all agents/players now find themselves. Just because they’re free agents teams are supposed to be falling over themselves to give them record paydays. Why? Gonzalez and Keuchel are nice players, but anyone following the sport knows these guys are past their peaks. Signing both of them are not going to make a non-contender into a WS hopeful in 2019….let alone leaving those teams with bad contracts that will pull them down for years.
          _ _

          I don’t think Keuchel is worth $15m AAV, nor Gonzalez $10m. If desperate, I’d give them that though on a 2 year contract – 2019 guaranteed with 2020 being a team option…….

          The Royals signed Chris Owings for $3m in 2019. I think he’s a better utility guy then Gonzalez. For sure Gonzalez is not worth 400% more money.

          The Indians have Corrasco for an AAV of $11.5m over 5 years, and Kluber for $17.5 over 3 years. I’d rather have either of them rather then Keuchel.

        • johnrealtime

          4 years ago

          I think you overstate teams dislike of dealing with boras. How many cases of immediate trades have you seen upon a player changing agents to Boras? And do you really think that with the current draft slotting system that a team cares that much about drafting a boras client? They will have the player under control for almost a decade and likely won’t even be running the team anymore by the time they become a free agent. Maybe under the old draft system they may care more about the agent of who they are drafting.

          And comparing Keuchel to Corrasco or Kluber contracts is silly, as both were extensions. Apples and oranges Would you rather have Arrieta at 25 million per year or Keuchel? Alex Cobb for how much he got? Those are better comparables, as they were free agents

        • jbigz12

          4 years ago

          Lmao. Chris owings is a better utility man than Marwin Gonzalez. Oh boy those royals sure know how to pick them don’t they? That’s an absolutely ridiculous comment. Marwin overshot his market because his best skill is being adequate everywhere. It’s not a skill that everyone especially Chris owings has but it wasn’t nor will it ever be worth his initial ask

          And as for your Boras comment. You’re way off yet again. You seriously believe that ml teams would avoid drafting the best talent because they are repped by Boras? Organizations get an absolute bargain the first 6 years of a player’s career. That’s before Mr. Boras can cash these guys in for the big dollars. Players he reps will continue to come off the board. I don’t know where you come up with some of this crap you spout out.

        • Samuel

          4 years ago

          @ johnrealtime, jbigz12;

          Yes, I know – I’m full of it. MLB business is conducted by smiling shiny people.

          Let’s start with the trio of the Rays-Pirates-Indians. Tell me how many Boras clients they have on their rosters. Tell me how many they’ve drafted the past 5 years. Shapiro of the Jays gets along with Boras, but does very little business with him….if any….recently (he will take Boras clients on for one-year make-good contracts). Check out how many Boras clients play for lower revenue teams as well as some mid-market ones.

          As for teams trying to trade players that shifted over to Boras in mid-contract – I’ve never seen that covered in the national media; I have read about it and heard it discussed in multiple cases by the local media.

          Are you people naive?

          Boras openly encourages his clients to go free agent. He seldom works to get a player an extension on an existing contract. FO’s know that they will have to outbid every other team to retain a Boras client, so they’ll try to get something for the player while they can.

          As for the draft and “slotting”……players do not have to sign with the team that drafts them. Many will play college or independent ball to get to an organization that pays well. Once other teams see that a draft choice was wasted on the player, they’re going to be careful about making the same mistake. FO’s either speak directly with agents or through intermediaries to “gauge a players interest” regarding “being a part of their organization”…….i.e. signing with them. If the feedback is not positive, most FO’s look elsewhere. This happens routinely in the NFL and NBA, why do you think MLB is different?

          There are things I like about Scott Boras. But were I running a team, I would stay away from Boras clients unless I was running one of the 4-5 large market / large revenue teams.

        • mpoweror

          4 years ago

          Boras is a big reason G. Cole is in Houston, not Pgh.

    • Flapjax55

      4 years ago

      We said.

      Reply
  15. dugdog83

    4 years ago

    Keuchel is gonna get similar deal as Jake A got last year.

    Reply
    • Samuel

      4 years ago

      lol

      Reply
  16. paulslc

    4 years ago

    Teams have learned to let their GM’s handle free agency, which means Boras is unable to appeal to owners’ vanity for the top FA’s

    Reply
    • Cam

      4 years ago

      Even though just the other day. Larry Baer sat down with Harper and Boras. But don’t let facts get in the way of your story.

      Reply
      • arc89

        4 years ago

        Giants were offering a short term deal not a long term deal.

        Reply
        • Cam

          4 years ago

          That has nothing to do with the OP is claiming.

        • paulslc

          4 years ago

          Lol- where did you read that I said they don’t MEET with the owners any longer?
          Negotiation is a whole other story. BUT… Don’t let your lack of reading comprehension get in the way of a snappy comeback.

  17. Kwflanne

    4 years ago

    Wait…. the Padres could enter the season with a logjam in the outfield?!?! Impossible…. oh wait, that happened last year also. Hope Renfroe is ready for more platoon time.

    Reply
    • hockeyjohn

      4 years ago

      The Padres will have to play Myers. Margot., and Renfroe this year. They are stuck with Myers and his overpriced salary. They also have to hope that Margot and Renfroe reach some of the potential that they came up to the majors with. If they don’t improve this year then they may never reach their potential. No one is going to pay a good price for where they are at right now.
      That is an outsiders opinion.

      Reply
      • Kwflanne

        4 years ago

        You are 100% correct. Myers hasn’t been anywhere near what they hoped for, Margot had massive regression (offensively and defensively) from his rookie year, and Renfroe still isn’t viewed (by the organization) as an everyday player. They continue to platoon him, unless injury forces him into an everyday role, and stunt his development. They have little to no trade value amongst them. Especially Myers and his contract.

        Reply
  18. CLKR

    4 years ago

    Can someone please just give Keuchel his 5th year… I mean, 5yrs/$75M doesn’t sound so bad for either party.

    Reply
    • mpoweror

      4 years ago

      Boras disagrees w/ you… his ears only hear 5+ & 120+.

      Reply
  19. sufferfortribe

    4 years ago

    The times they are a changin’.

    Reply
    • dimitrios in la

      4 years ago

      Thank goodness.

      Reply
  20. HalosHeavenJJ

    4 years ago

    Not hard to see why GMs aren’t in a hurry to pay a 38 year old Keuchel $25 million.

    They’d probably pay 31-35 year old Dallas a solid AAV, though.

    Reply
  21. Soldierofgod619

    4 years ago

    Padres wont develop players right trying to split at bats for everyone. Send down to AAA Cordero and Reyes for a month or 2 to start the season with Myers,Margot,Renfroe and Jank as a 4th OF. Trade Wil or Renfroe at the trade deadline. Starters it will be a competition between Luchessi,Lauer,Paddack,Allen,Quantril,Kennedy and the team could use openers like Matt Strahm and Robert Stock. Lamet and Richards come back strong 2020.

    Reply
  22. Begamin

    4 years ago

    Im hoping the Yankees swoop in and sign Keuchel when his party lowers his price.

    Reply
    • driftcat28

      4 years ago

      I’d be happy with that too but I think the yanks are done spending for the offseason. Plus I doubt they would move CC to the pen

      Reply
      • Begamin

        4 years ago

        Yeah thats true. Theyre at like $220 with the tax. That being said, if they did pick of Keuchel they could just run a six man. Keeps everyone rested and its less work on CCs knees

        Reply
  23. Astros_fan_84

    4 years ago

    I’m a big fan of Keuchel and Marwin, and what they’ve done for Houston. That said, those prices are just stupid. Players need to adjust to the market. It may not be fair to them, but it was it is. I don’t understand why players don’t give teams deadlines, and say to make the best offer by that date. They might get more, or they might be Mike Moustakas. These players need to take the best offer and play.

    Reply
  24. dimitrios in la

    4 years ago

    Are you sure we want to describe DK and others as being on the “unemployment line”?

    Reply
  25. mike156

    4 years ago

    Boras shoots for the moon. Until very recently, he’s got the moon, the sun and the stars for almost all of his clients. Maybe he isn’t adapting to the new reality, whatever that is.

    Reply
  26. klarmore11

    4 years ago

    Well written and to the point. The best MLBTR writer and it’s not even close.

    Reply
    • Samuel

      4 years ago

      I prefer Mr Bradley.

      But you are correct about Mr. Byrne’s style.

      Both write the way MLBTR articles were years ago. Laying out some facts and allowing the reader to mull them over. Since I started reading again maybe 4-5 months ago, the weekday articles often promote an agenda meant to rally the reader to a cause. It’s unfortunate, but that’s what American “journalism” has evolved to when covering just about any topic.

      Reply
  27. CoachSantoni

    4 years ago

    Greed that’s an interesting subject. Let me ask you all this question, what does the average minor league ball player make?

    Answer

    Starting pay for minor leaguers is between $1,100 and $2,150 a month, and only during the season, which can be as short as three months. “The average baseball fan knows that minor leaguers aren’t getting rich, “But I think the average baseball fan is shocked to know what the salaries actually are.”

    It is here that many question how a ballplayer is making a living wage. After that, the salaries change. A player in Double-A will earn approximately $6,000 a month on average, and those in Triple-A (the players most likely to be developed into Major League talent) average about $10,000 a month.Mar 26, 2018

    So we ask about greed. In my opinion the baseball players association should be ashamed of themselves when they complain and the owners well they need to funnel more money to the minor and stop this Great disparity in pay.

    Reply
  28. CCCTL

    4 years ago

    Kaprielian’s injury is being mis-reported by most. He was feeling something in his lats below the shoulder blade, but people see “shoulder” in a quick glance and run with that.

    Reply
    • CCCTL

      4 years ago

      MRI diagnosis:

      Lat strain, shut down for two weeks.

      NOT SHOULDER.

      Reply
  29. TheBlueMeanie

    4 years ago

    Maybe I’m missing something. How did Lindor’s and Perez’s presence convince Alex Wilson to sign with the Tribe?

    Reply

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