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The Yankees’ Rotation Looks Like A Problem

By Connor Byrne | June 14, 2019 at 9:30pm CDT

Although the Yankees haven’t gotten an inning from injured ace Luis Severino this year, their rotation has done a decent job weathering his absence to this point. As of this writing, the Yankees’ starting staff ranks 10th in the majors in K/BB ratio, 12th in ERA and 13th in fWAR, and has helped the injury-laden club to a 41-26 start and a half-game lead in the American League East. While most of the unit’s numbers are passable in the aggregate, it’s just 19th in the game in FIP and has begun faltering of late.

Without Severino, who’s out for at least another month because of a lat strain, left-hander James Paxton stands out as the Yankees’ No. 1 starter. The former Mariner got off to a white-hot start this year before going to the injured list May 5 with a left knee issue. Paxton hasn’t been good since then, having allowed nine earned runs on 11 hits and seven walks (with 12 strikeouts) in 11 1/3 innings, though he still boasts strong numbers on the season. The 30-year-old’s not worth worrying about from the Yankees’ perspective if he’s healthy, but as someone who has never thrown more than 160 1/3 innings in a season, it’s anyone’s guess whether Paxton will hold up into the fall.

Like Paxton, right-hander Masahiro Tanaka is someone whose rotation spot is etched in stone. But Tanaka has also declined of late, in part because his signature splitter hasn’t been up to par in 2019. That said, considering Tanaka owns a 3.58 ERA/4.01 FIP in 83 innings this year, his presence is hardly a detriment to New York’s rotation.

Unfortunately for the Yankees, solutions are harder to find after Paxton and Tanaka. Domingo German, who stepped into the Yankees’ rotation to replace Severino, looked like a breakout star through mid-May. The 26-year-old has come crashing down since then, though, and has been on the IL since June 9 with a left hip flexor strain. German has logged an ugly 5.74 ERA/5.25 FIP over his most recent five starts, despite his 11.14 K/9 against 1.69 BB/9 during that 26 2/3-inning span. Beyond that, it’s worth noting German is already nearing his innings total from all of 2018, having tossed 70 (24 fewer than last year), and has never reached 125 in a professional season.

Worsening the Yankees’ situation, aging lefties J.A. Happ and CC Sabathia have each fallen short of expectations this season. Happ, whom the Yankees re-signed to a two-year, $34MM contract over the winter, has managed a 4.66 ERA/5.34 FIP through 75 1/3 frames. According to Baseball Savant, the 36-year-old Happ’s hard-hit rate against has risen by almost 8 percent since last season, while his strikeout rate has fallen by nearly 7 percent.

The soon-to-retire Sabathia, meanwhile, isn’t having the final season he or the Yankees envisioned. The potential Hall of Famer has pitched to a playable 4.42 ERA, yet his 5.98 FIP is unsightly, and he has only completed six innings on two occasions. Moreover, Sabathia’s groundball rate is 6.5 percent below his career mark, which has helped lead to a massive increase in home runs against. Sabathia yielded homers on 11.7 percent of fly balls in 2018, but the number has climbed to 20.8 this season. While Sabathia reinvented himself over the previous couple seasons as a soft-contact specialist, hitters have increased their hard-hit rate against him by better than 5 percent since a year ago.

Barring outside acquisitions, it appears the suddenly slumping Yankees are stuck with their current alignment of starters for the time being. Along with Severino and German, the Yankees are missing Jordan Montgomery (out for the year because of Tommy John surgery) and Jonathan Loaisiga (strained shoulder). Those injuries have depleted the Yankees’ depth, which has left them to deploy reliever Chad Green as an opener to underwhelming results.

In positive news for the Yankees, Severino’s as good a reinforcement as you could possibly land during the season. On paper, he’d form a more-than-capable trio with Paxton and Tanaka. It would be risky to expect Severino to immediately return in top form, though, meaning it would behoove the club to add at least one new starter before the July 31 trade deadline. It seems fair to expect any of Madison Bumgarner, Matthew Boyd or Marcus Stroman to end up in a Yankees uniform by then. Acquiring one of those three could make the difference in the Yankees holding off the Rays and Red Sox in the AL East or having to overcome a one-game playoff for the third straight season. The way the Yankees’ current starters are trending, it’s going to be difficult to keep their rivals at bay even as injured stars come back on the offensive side.

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  1. MB923

    6 years ago

    If only someone like Dallas Keuchel was available as early as a week or 2 ago

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    • Jonathan Valencia

      6 years ago

      I still can’t believe they went cheap on him. First it was all about the draft pick but ended up that Hal is cheap.

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      • Priggs89

        6 years ago

        Man, imagine being a fan of a “normal” team…

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        • qbass187

          6 years ago

          For real

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    • wv17

      6 years ago

      If only they had scooped up Gio González on a MiLB deal.

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      • ctguy

        6 years ago

        Gio Gonzalez is a great idea. The Brewers placed him on the il with a dead arm. Just what the Yankees need.

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  2. jdgoat

    6 years ago

    Never expected Happ to fall off so quick. He was aging with the Jays but showed he was able to be one of those “crafty” lefties.

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    • qbass187

      6 years ago

      We did. Signed: Everybody else

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      • thegreatcerealfamine

        6 years ago

        qbass187, I’ve definitely disagreed with you countless times in the past, but on this one you’re 100% dead on.

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  3. 101reklaw

    6 years ago

    Indians should offer Bauer for Frazier and Torres or Frazier and Urshela. Who says no?

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    • cvarneski

      6 years ago

      Me. And everyone.

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    • Ji-Man Choi

      6 years ago

      Everyone except Neal Huntington

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    • GB85

      6 years ago

      Lol good lord, you people and your trade scenarios…

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      • Dustin Michels

        6 years ago

        Frazier and D Garcia for Bauer is a strong trade proposal imo

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        • Dustin Michels

          6 years ago

          Frazier for MadBum could work for both teams.

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        • Steven Chinwood

          6 years ago

          Other teams don’t covet Frazier like Yankees fans wish. Gonna take a whole lot more than just him to get Bumgarner. Garcia isn’t really that much of a prospect anyway.

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        • wv17

          6 years ago

          How? MadBum can net some specs who haven’t accrued any service time yet.

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        • bencole

          6 years ago

          At first I said the same thing but honestly teams don’t covet Mad Bum really either. Frazier and Bumgarner are both way overvalued by their home fans. Mad Bum probably isn’t worth a top 100 prospect at this point, if he is it’s barely, and not a high ceiling one.

          Frazier doesn’t look like match for SF though. Your putting a poor defensive outfielder in the toughest, biggest OF in baseball, in a place where his power won’t play as well, while he doesn’t have the speed to take advantage of the big park. Additionally, his MLB service time being substantially greater than most prospects doesn’t match well with the Giants next competitive window.

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        • bencole

          6 years ago

          *You’re

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        • Core4

          6 years ago

          Are you kidding? Frazier , the former num 5 overall pick is still only 24yrs old and has progressed very nicely as a prospect and into his ML career. Literally if not for some injuries, he’d already be a established ML with upside still .
          Even last yr, a nightmare of a season health wise for Frazier, he still manage to on base nearly 400OBP between minors and majors combined., outside of some defensive stuff this yr, he’s been awesome at the plate, and seems to be getting better by the day. He’s on pace for around 291BA 25hr 75rbi 875OPS as a 24yr old. You can easily envision a All Star type player with a full yr or 2 in the majors .
          Frazier for Bumgarner straight up isn’t worth it from a Yankee perspective .giants would be ecstatic and instantly Frazier would become there most feared hitter and is controlled for quite some time , and Madbum would be a FA this offseaon.
          Frazier is a monster at the plate who’s just getting better and better the longer he stays healthy and keeps his momentum, which has been his main issue in recent yrs. And with Gardy prob playing his final yr with the yanks, Frazier becomes that mich more important going forward.
          I’m not saying they Should make him untouchable, but to act like other teams wouldn’t covet this guy, now that he’s showed he’s fully healthy is absou.utley ridiculous.

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        • billysbballz

          6 years ago

          Wow finally someone with a clue. The idea that the Yanks should consider dealing Frazier with Gardner close to retirement and Stanton and Hicks always injured and no outfield prospects truly ready to contribute makes zero sense. Especially since his bat in that current lineup besides DJ and Sanchez is probably the most difficult to pitch to right now!
          His skill level will help his defense catch up.
          MadBum has pitched like a Bum since his off the field injuries and that’s in a soft NL pitchers park!
          What makes anyone think the soon to be free agent will come to NY and pitch better then Happ right now when they have similar stuff?

          Stroman is the next Sonny Gray! Hard pass.
          The only trade we make to improve our pitching is as follows:
          1- no trade and wait for Severino and Monty
          2- promote one of Devi Garcia or another young arm and let them see if they can help.
          3- trade for a starter without giving up the farm and Frazier when not one available starter is an ace worthy of that.
          4- consider Grienke as a salary dump which is a desperate move!

          P.S. Cole is a free agent after the season
          Everyone relax……

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        • hockeyjohn

          6 years ago

          3. Trade for a starter without giving up the farm = a starter that is not very good. You will not get something valuable for nothing.

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        • rocky7

          6 years ago

          Noted hockey man, but exactly who of value is available to even tempt the Yankees to “give up the farm” for?
          Well spoken by Billyballs!

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        • Steven Chinwood

          6 years ago

          Making an early exit out of the playoffs.

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        • rocky7

          6 years ago

          Posts made by Yankee Trolls man! You’re spot on!
          Everybody is tradable and has value to the right team…and who’s to say….certainly not us as “posters”! We just get to Monday Morning QB the whole thing!

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        • rocky7

          6 years ago

          Wish you’d make an early exit out of these articles posting!

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        • hockeyjohn

          6 years ago

          Rocky7 is punch drunk from too many losses in the ring. If the Yankees want a pitcher of any value, they will have to pay a price. Remember, Rocky, the Yankees will not be the only team looking for pitching.

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        • Steven Chinwood

          6 years ago

          This is no revelation of course, but I just can’t wait for his response.

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        • thefenwayfaithful 2

          6 years ago

          I don’t know why everyone speculates that the Yankees have to go after an obvious target. Knowing how Cashman operates, I find it more likely that it will be a more outside the box acquisition and it will cost at least one piece that the Yankees really like. You don’t get something for nothing.

          But I think the Grienke idea is on the right track. I could see a 3 team deal to make the money and pieces work as I don’t see the Yankees taking this on as a strict salary dump here, but maybe if they toss a prospect into the mix with a 3rd team or somrthing like that, they can find a way to unload some of that commitment or another commitment. But I agree. No one on the market is worth the prospect value teams will want for them. Compromising the future for an average pitcher like Stroman is a mistake.

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        • thefenwayfaithful 2

          6 years ago

          I like what Bauer brings to the table, he has some of his best numbers at Yankees Stadium and I think Yankees fans overrate Frazier, but at the same time I question if he’s the guy down the stretch. His numbers at Fenway, Rogers Center and Trop are pretty ugly, especially Fenway. I’d have liked this deal instead of Happ preseason for sure. I don’t think Boyd or Bauer are the answer and Stroman, I’ve gotten into the advanced metrics with before. His results aren’t indicative of the way the balls are coming off the bat.

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        • DarthDbacks

          6 years ago

          Yankees are likely still on Greinke’s no trade list and I’d doubt he would wave if to them. Guy said he would rather not pitch a no hitter just so he could avoid attention.

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        • ColossusOfClout

          6 years ago

          2014 ca;;ed, they want their MadBum evaluations back.

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      • jorge78

        6 years ago

        Right? I’m sick of them!

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    • hockeyjohn

      6 years ago

      Urshela has never hit like he has this year. I am not sure that it will continue Both Frazier and Urshela were Indians at one time. The Yankees won’t trade Torres. If Cleveland makes Bauer available, he will draw lots of interest.

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      • hockeyjohn

        6 years ago

        Urshela already slumping. Only batting .200 in the month of June.

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        • papasmurf25

          6 years ago

          Everyone goes through a slump.

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    • butch779988

      6 years ago

      Indians

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    • Priggs89

      6 years ago

      There’s a pretty substantial difference between those 2 offers…

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    • jdgoat

      6 years ago

      Urshela is off limits. Swap in Andujar for him.

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      • Steven Chinwood

        6 years ago

        They’d deal Urshela and Frazier for Bauer in a heartbeat.

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        • bencole

          6 years ago

          Yes absolutely

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        • Core4

          6 years ago

          Outside of last yr , Bauer has been a number 3 -5 starter at best. And we’re not talking a small sample size either, Before last yr, he never even had a sub 4.00era, let alone sub 3.00 era… And this yr, he’s trending more toward looking like pre 2018 Bauer again .. Dude leads all of baseball in walks again as well(lead baseball in walks 2015 as well
          Frazier on the other hand is OPSing like .870 and on pace for like a 291ba 25 75 season as a still only 24yr old. He has the making of a terror at the plate for yrs to come. Even last yr in a injury riddled nightmare of a season , he almost on based 400obp between majors and minors , He’s becoming a complete package at the dish.

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        • rocky7

          6 years ago

          Bogus!

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        • rocky7

          6 years ago

          Bogus 2.0 for agreeing with him!

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        • Steven Chinwood

          6 years ago

          “Bogus” are you stuck in an 80’s movie?

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        • rocky7

          6 years ago

          What I’d really like to say to and about you I can’t on this site…is that 80’s enough for you!
          Besides the 80’s were good…what are you about 5 I figure! Mommy helps you to type?

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        • jleve618

          6 years ago

          Bogus is totally rank man.

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      • Priggs89

        6 years ago

        I really, really hope this is a joke. Urshela is 27 years old, and this is the first time he has looked like he might be OK at baseball.

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        • jdgoat

          6 years ago

          Yes, of course

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    • Oilcan

      6 years ago

      the Indians. urshela has no value and frazier is a major concussion concern. the Indians will want grade a talent

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      • rocky7

        6 years ago

        Major concussion concern….hey man this isn’t football….he doesn’t make a living running into walls or getting tackled….concussions hurt him and pushed his recovery through a long course of time, but he seems fully recovered. Concussion case…REALLY!
        The Indians would like like IDIOTS to take back Urshela in a trade when they gave him away to begin with.

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  4. Ji-Man Choi

    6 years ago

    MLB Network offers Christopher Russo to Cleveland for Bauer, who says no?

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  5. giantboy99

    6 years ago

    Torres not going anywhere

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  6. Powerslave

    6 years ago

    This has been the story year after year. A billion dollar company and cheap Hal doesn’t believe that pitching is important. A rotation of old Happ, CC and Tanaka isn’t going to be able to win the series. Paxton is another Seattle snow job that we will regret. Sevy is no ace and yet we go cheap. They rely on the long ball to win games but when this garbage they call a rotation gives up 3 or more runs in the first is a complete joke. They didn’t want to spend on Scherzet and now if the Nationals pit him out it will gut our farm system. Hal is destroying our team. Makes me sick. They need to hit the reset button and gut the rotation and get pitching that can pitch. Dump Tanaka, Happ two more years of this? Thank goodness CC is retiring. Sad to see this so called rotation. Just where is the Yankees ace? We have nine due to Hal!
    George is turning over in his grave. Hal must go!

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    • thecoffinnail

      6 years ago

      Scherzer has a massive amount of his contract deferred. He has been getting paid peanuts the last few years. The Nationals would have to eat so much of his contract that he is pretty much untradeable for them. Take a look at how his contract was structured for payout.

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      • bencole

        6 years ago

        I’d imagine the Nats would probably pay the deferred money at least.

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  7. ericl

    6 years ago

    I’d be surprised to see the Blue Jays trade Stroman to the Yankees when teams like the Padres & Twins can give them better packages for him. The Jays are going to want pitching in return & both the Twins and Padres have a lot of pitchers at the top of their prospect lists. Also, the fact that the pieces the Jays got in the Happ deal haven’t contributed much could make the Jays reluctant to deal with the Yankees. To get Stroman, the Yankees are going to have to give up a lot & they’ve been reluctant to do so in recent trades.

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    • thecoffinnail

      6 years ago

      The Yankees have quality pitching prospects in spades. That is just about all they have to offer right now.

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      • Bocephus

        6 years ago

        Yankees have nothing significant in pitching prospects. If the Braves, Padres, Dodgers, and Astros wanted Stroman the Yankees couldn’t match them. The cupboard is pretty much bare in the Yankees farm system.

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        • bencole

          6 years ago

          Yeah they have huge depth of quality but nothing really top end. Let’s be fair though, Stroman isn’t going to return anything elite. Michael Baez maybe, guys at that level will be the best they’ll get I’d imagine.

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        • papasmurf25

          6 years ago

          Are you a scout ? I didnt think so

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        • rocky7

          6 years ago

          Yeh, yeh, yeh, all you hear is about the Braves who never do anything but are in every rumor for every player out there, and the Padres who seem like a mess with their Rock Star GM pulling the strings. All you ever hear about is their farm systems.
          The cupboard isn’t totally bare and the reason it is, is because of promotions to the major league club…see Frazier, Torres, Miguel, and and a good young bunch of receivers filling out what is one of the major leagues best bullpens.

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      • fitsiqis65

        6 years ago

        bleacher report just ranked the yank farm system at #20! Cash has graduated good talent (torres, miggy, gary, seve, judge etc), and then traded away of a boat load of top 100 assets for basically nothing. Think Rutherford, mateo, kap etc… ( i know most of these guys haven’t done squat- my point is they were highly though of prospects and therefore worth something).

        so now- the yanks have much fewer options and resources to “acquire” someone. get ready for more BP help and the lance lynn variety of SP

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      • its_happening

        6 years ago

        Yankees have 1 arm. Deivi Garcia. That’s it. Very low quality. Remember when Chance Adams was a prospect? Yeah, enough said.

        San Diego at 34-36 aren’t in any position to say they are looking for pitching. They may be 4.5 games back of a wild card, but it’s hard to be a contender when you aren’t playing good baseball. Another arm still won’t solve their problems.

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      • chippahawk

        6 years ago

        You guys can have gausman.

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    • iverbure

      6 years ago

      Remember when people thought Drury was a good return for Happ who was one of the best SP available? That was funny.

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      • chippahawk

        6 years ago

        I memba

        Rememba when Dallas keuchel chose to go to ATL and baseball fans all over the world rejoiced because he didn’t follow the footsteps of so many before him?

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    • Woodlawn

      6 years ago

      Padres & twins can offer Toronto better packages for Stroman? Please stop. Of the Yankees offer Frazier there isn’t a team that can top the Yankees offer. You people are silly.

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      • Basebal101

        6 years ago

        What are you smoking woodlawn?!

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        • PopeMarley

          6 years ago

          Must be that good black ops Sh$t.

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  8. stedmanslick

    6 years ago

    Montgomery is due back after the all star break, likely in August. Not out for the whole year.

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    • Steven Chinwood

      6 years ago

      And

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      • adamontheshore

        6 years ago

        And, he was just pointing out that because the article says he is out for the whole year. Your snarky reply wasn’t really necessary when he was actually pointing out something relevant to the discussion.

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        • Steven Chinwood

          6 years ago

          “And, he was just pointing out that because the article says he’s out for the whole year” The article could indeed be right. There’s no set time for his return. So some random guy posting it on the internet doesn’t make it so.

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        • adamontheshore

          6 years ago

          I think it is fair to say that the article makes it sound like he will absolutely not pitch this season, which is simply not true as he is currently throwing to live hitters, and that is what the commenter above was trying to communicate. Sure he might not pitch this season, but the purpose of the original post and my reply was to point out that he will likely be ready to pitch again fairly soon. Not sure why you are being argumentative and snarky but if doing that on the internet makes you feel good about yourself knock yourself out.

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        • Stratocaster

          6 years ago

          I think the comment was fair, and I thought the same thing when I read the article. The author suggests that he’s out for the year – and he may not pitch in NY this season – but that’s not an absolute. It was certainly valid to clarify the timetable. With that said, I don’t expect Montgomery to be a big part of the solution in NY this season.

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        • rocky7

          6 years ago

          You know, maybe you should tune in and actually watch the Yankees before trying to post and sound like some type of expert…Monty actually pitched batting practice for Trenton yesterday and feels well ahead of schedule for a possible return this year…nothing for certain but obviously a player itching to get back so proclaiming him “out for the year” can certainly be wrong in everyone’s mind but yours!

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  9. michael serra

    6 years ago

    It’s a dam shame that the real Yankee fans will never get a chance to let our opinions of Hal’s “process” be shoved into his face.. His “yes men” don’t seem to be able to get it through his thick skull. How do we actually get this owner to start realizing he has to spend the money if he wants to win the championship. Totally frustrating that no one seems to be grabbing Hal by the ears and forcing him to actually spend whatever you have to to beat the rest of the teams for the title. He’ll gladly take our money, yet won’t get the players needed to win. George may have believed in “overkill” to get everyone he felt would bring the championship back where it belongs…while Hal, just doesn’t seem to care enough, and will do just enough to trick us into thinking we have a championship caliber team. We played so far above our heads to this point, that it helped perpetrate Hal’s fraud. Now it’s caught up to us. We seriously need to hurt Hals pocketbook for him to even have a clue at how pist off we are with his BS.

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    • pino

      6 years ago

      I dont think Hal is cheap, however I think he values hitting over pitching.
      Imagine the Stanton money being spent on pitching instead of an often injured star who has only put up big numbers in non important at bats.
      The Yankees have been burned by bad pitching deals over the years and this is why they would rather spend big on relievers vs starters.
      There is no real solution this year other than to wind up in 3rd place and get a reality check.
      They will pass on Bumgardner and blame it on not having enough time left to control him in the near future.

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  10. Powerslave

    6 years ago

    What rotation? It’s a joke

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  11. yanksallday

    6 years ago

    It’s a big problem, there’s no doubt. Not signing Keuchel was total lack of foresight. Bad move by cash.

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    • Powerslave

      6 years ago

      It’s not Cashman it’s Hal make no mistake

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      • pino

        6 years ago

        Dont be so quick to give Cashman a free pass, he got allot of this blame on his shoulders

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      • fitsiqis65

        6 years ago

        cash is the problem. Hal gives him some 230 mil to put the team together, and that’s not enough?

        was its hal’s choice to spend 35 mil this year on happ gardy and CC?

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  12. RockHard

    6 years ago

    Nice CC gut picture!

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  13. User 3617846742

    6 years ago

    Buy cheap, buy twice Hal!

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  14. maz2323

    6 years ago

    I’m not bothered by them seeing Keuchel and not thinking he looked too great and waiting for something better… don’t worry about what u give up make sure u get the right guy… my issue is that i see guys like Severino, German, Paxton as guys who have potential to be top rotation guys.. Sevy and German r young and I won’t dive into exactly what the issues r but there’s clear things needed to be worked on… Paxton is a pro… he should be able to be smart enough to Figure out what his issues are or else it needs to be identified… but Sevy and German r two guys I see as opportunities for the entire organizations pitching coach collective to make them good

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    • thegreatcerealfamine

      6 years ago

      I’m bothered by the fact the last couple of years the Yankees biggest need wasn’t offense, but pitching, and a solid 1-2 at that. I’m also bothered they spent money on two aging bottom of the rotation pitchers in CC, and Happ. I’m bothered that the big trade acquisition was a known pitcher with a major injury history..Paxton. Now is not the time for potential, but execution. They’ve built this team to depend so much on this supposed great bullpen over the last few seasons only to see it worn out by the playoffs. None of the last few years World Series champions depend so much on their bullpen, but instead used quality front of the rotation starters.

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      • maz2323

        6 years ago

        I hear u and that’s totally fair. I do think that it’s become a problem really quickly tho in a way that earlier in the year it was a strength. They lost in 2017 in game 7 where that series they pitched unreal. They just couldnt win a game at HOU vs their great guys.. so last year Severino who’s still like what 25? They see him, the job Happ did, Tanaka who has been the most reliable starter and most clutch for years now, and Paxton as a core 4 with when healthy is a good bullpen and felt good about it knowing in their minds getting a P might be necessary… but they’ve just built this roster too well in general to kill them for this… Coach up Severino, get Betances back, And then they’ll get another starter and make Happ/Paxton earn it… German I’d be shocked if he comes back ace level.. he has too much work to do.. he surprised the league and it doesn’t take hitters too long to mash u if ur main game is tossing curves over for strikes over and over… he HAS to readjust.. I think that just getting decent outings is all it takes for them to win most games… those 6 innings 3 runs… that’s not even great but think how many losses they have that were like 8-7? Too many

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        • maz2323

          6 years ago

          And Paxton was to be a depth proven AL veteran guy to bluster.. he wasn’t a savior… if ur the Yankees u wanna know u just got guys who can give u quality starts cuz ull score and ull be better than almost everyone 7th on… so I understand the Happ, Tanaka, Paxton types fitting.. guys who will keep u in games and be steady… problem is that they’re not even doing that consistently… but I get the thought process… it doesn’t help CC is finished and 2 important starters r hurt.. delin is out…

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      • maz2323

        6 years ago

        See just rereading ur msg I think that things tend to change quickly so I can’t make any certain judgments… but When u have a young young team… a young guy u wanna groom as ur ace, and a great pen… why wouldn’t get the job done low maintenance reliable vets make sense… Tanaka has won a lotta big games.. Happ was excellent last year.. he was the human 6 innings 2 runs.. u can’t understand the thought process? They’re not hurt.. u like keeping guys cuz u know them… my only
        issue is again they’re not getting it from any of them which is werid right now so I wanna know the plan? It’s the lack of an ace long term that is the biggest problem… Assuming Sevy was shaky… but what ace was out for the taking? A lot more passed their prime overpaid Paxton’s and Prices than there r guys who r great but u don’t have to lock up for 8 years… cuz idc who it is that’s moronic

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      • Louiebeans

        6 years ago

        It’s been years since they had a 1-2 I’ve said this many many years in a row.

        I’m going to disagree with the offense they Yankees need a few more LH bats in their lineup and I’m not talking about the Brett Garbage of the world. I know what you mean about the offense being fine and I’m sure you’d agree they could use a few more LH bats.

        For the I dunno 100 time 10 years in a row.
        I’m not a fan of Brett Garbage I never was all he was was a powerless average ball player that could have been replaces by rubbing two nickles together.. Now he’s not even good as a replacement player.

        M Brantley was another ball player I was hope they’d put for in the FA market. Yankee have become cheap and all they do it bring back the dead.

        People said CC was the best 5 innings SP out there. I nearly pissed my pants.

        I respect other people opinions but it’s the people who go against what you see for the past umpteen years that need a check.

        I think it’s time for all the people who are complaining about the Yankee being fine actually see the light.

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      • billysbballz

        6 years ago

        Not true
        The dynasty Yanks always has shut down bullpens that saved the rotation! Always!
        They also had veteran starters who can navigate lineups and keep the game close for the bullpen. We are one of this smart pitchers who can consistently go 6-7 innings giving up 3 runs. That’s all we need, one of those which is of course hard to find.
        I can tell you it’s not Stroman or Bumgardner. Bauer also looks iffy. Sherzer is that arm but he isn’t being offered unless you blow away Washington which of course is dumb because pitchers are way too volatile.

        Leaving Grienke?
        Smart pitcher but has some serious personality questions.

        Trust in Cash.

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  15. therza82

    6 years ago

    I am not worried about the Yankees rotation. Happ was last start before this in Toronto was one of the best of the season. In the start against the White Sox he didn’t give up a run for the first four innings and then gave up a four spot in the fifth. The White Sox are on a hot streak as of late and they are a horrible match up for crafty left handed pitchers like Happ and CC due to having a line up of almost all right handed batters.

    German last few starts were bad because his hip injury began on May 25th. He was given a cortisone and all the scans looks good. Yankees believe he should be ready to come off the IL as soon as he’s eligible. If anything, sitting out his turn in the rotation twice will make it easier for the Yankees to prevent him from exceeding his innings limit.

    So, the Yankees have their ace returning in July in Severino, the guy who has pitched like their ace this in German will be back probably end of next week or start of the one after that. And I don’t think Jordan Montgomery got the memo that he is going to be out for the season since he just pitched live BP today and is expected back by August.

    Oh, and the Yankees are about two days away from getting both Judge and Stanton back. For essentially the first time this season they are rolling out a full strength line-up. I know Andujar is out but the combination of Urshela and DJL have basically matched, or even surpassed, his offensive production while playing above average to very good defense.

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    • Old User Name

      6 years ago

      How dare you speak rationally and not have whiney knee jerk outbursts!!!

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  16. swanhenge

    6 years ago

    My favorite kind of headline.

    Scherzer can probably be had, but what NY has to trade, Washington doesn’t need. They’re set in the OF.

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  17. Yankeepatriot

    6 years ago

    If the nats are willing to pay the differed money or if the Yankees can give it all to him in one lump sum or two somehow (or even rework his contract) he would be a no brainer

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  18. HarveyD82

    6 years ago

    awww poor yankees… such a shame.

    imagine being a pirates fan..

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    • Yankeepatriot

      6 years ago

      The pirates ownership is awful. That fanbase is great and it deserves better ownership

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      • fitsiqis65

        6 years ago

        agreed. I feel for Pittsburgh, but that doesn’t preclude Yankee fans from the right to be upset or in the positive want a WS Championship every year.

        Baseball is not football and has inequity (i don’t like it but this is the reality). The Yankees have the power/resources to be in it every year.

        Even as a Yankee fan, i would stand by the idea that every team should have equal opportunity. not just the yanks, sucks, and dodgers

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  19. fitsiqis65

    6 years ago

    all hail the great Brian Cashman.

    Sale- Nah, don’t need him yet
    Verlander- Nah, old and costly
    Price- Nah, too expensive
    Scherzer, Nah too expensive
    Cole, Nah, can’t give up the prospects to get him, cause we gave all the good ones away already and promoted the others.
    Corbin- Nah, can’t pay him 23 mil a year in his age 35 season because Happ is a bargain at 17 mil per year in his age 36-39 seasons….

    On the flip side
    CC- Gotta have him, best #5 SP 8 mil can buy
    Happ- see above
    Bullpen- Let’s spend more than an entire small market team on the BP because we need em to come in by the 4th 5 times a week… (Cash is guaranteed to acquire pen help by the end of July).

    Now- tell me who they will get? need just one ace, and not one FORMER ace……

    Cash has once again screwed the pooch.

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    • Steven Chinwood

      6 years ago

      geeson, the dummies are here to set us straight.

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      • fitsiqis65

        6 years ago

        haven’t seen southbeach dummy here in a while……hmmm. i do have the screenshots of him backing pax, happ and cc though, just in case

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      • rocky7

        6 years ago

        Takes one to know one Bub!

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    • rocky7

      6 years ago

      Wow, once again lots of bluster and totally short on facts…you really must envy the Yankees, Cashman, and everything written about them don’t you because you and chinboy seem to take every shot you can without any basis of fact….try posting something that actually has some and you wouldn’t get these kinds of replies!

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      • fitsiqis65

        6 years ago

        steve- maybe you were talking about this “dummie”?

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        • Steven Chinwood

          6 years ago

          Yep

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      • thegreatcerealfamine

        6 years ago

        Why don’t you open up your mind to others opinions, and stop trying to play the Yankees fans protector. Calling everyone trolls and such. Maybe just skip over the posts, because it’s not like Cashman is reading them.

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        • Louiebeans

          6 years ago

          How any Yankee fan can protect the Yankees is a tad crazy. I haven’t watched one game this season cuz I know it will be the same out put.

          Gardner willl hit 100 and the Sp can’t get outta the 5th inning.

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  20. robluca21

    6 years ago

    If only there were proven veteran starters available this offseason like a Keuchel,Corbin or gio gonzalez……

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    • Louiebeans

      6 years ago

      I said that 1000 times to go FA market for SP in the offseason.

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      • robluca21

        6 years ago

        Hey what the hell do we know . Obviously penny pinching hal didnt sign one of them because he needed his yacht detailed

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  21. rob t

    6 years ago

    Cashman has done such a great job on the roster but I just feel they don’t value starting pitching nearly enough.

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  22. Macho King

    6 years ago

    Cessa is sure not the answer.

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  23. Louiebeans

    6 years ago

    This off season I said go out and spend big on the Free Agent market.
    Corbin
    Morton
    Dallas

    Don’t bring back CC and Happ they cannot get outta the 5th innings.

    Oh well

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    • Begamin

      6 years ago

      ohhh im sure you were begging for Morton. hindsight 20/20

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      • fitsiqis65

        6 years ago

        wait Beg- isn’t is Cashman’s job to figure that stuff out? I mean he bet on happ for 3 years at 17 per over morton for 30 over 2?

        whether beans or the fans wanted him or not, its Cash’s call. And cash got it wrong.

        so its not a hindsight issue, its a GM failing issue

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        • Steven Chinwood

          6 years ago

          Cashman should’ve used some eyesight on those medical records, or just have the Doctors explain them.

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        • Begamin

          6 years ago

          +geeson
          My point was that I doubt Louie”I havent watched one game this season”Beans was asking for Morton. If you want to turn it into something else completely i guess you have free range, but i wont take part since those conversations are the most annoying.

          Also, when will you admit that you are the same person as Steven? Its a bit blatant that youre the same guy. Both profiles spew dumb things and both profiles are present when the other is and both profiles pat each other on the back every chance they get. Bit pathetic that you went out and made two profiles to mess with people on MLBTR of all places.

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        • Steven Chinwood

          6 years ago

          Beggy adjust your tinfoil hat, stroke your Greg Bird pillow, and wait to see if Green can make it out of the first.

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      • Louiebeans

        6 years ago

        I stand pat on what I said. The Yankees rotation is not good enough for the 2019 season. I said this before Luis got hurt.

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        • Begamin

          6 years ago

          Sure, everyone and their Grandma was asking for more pitching. Youre no genius. I just doubt you saw Morton having the year he is having.

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        • Louiebeans

          6 years ago

          I just looked up C Morton I had no idea he was 8-0. I was going on his last two years and watching him vs the Yankees the past two years.

          Corbin Mortin Dallas would have been a great upgrade but they decided to bring back,.

          CC 5 inning P
          Happ 5 inning P
          Brett Garbage
          Greg not Fit for MLB

          On top of Cc and Happ I’m not and still not sold on Tanaka winning 10 games.

          All this before the season started.
          As I mentioned before from a guy who painted him bed room in pin stripes when younger and went to two WS in the 90’s . I refuse to watch B Gardner and will not watch any Yankees games until he’s GONE OFF THE TEAM .

          This team has been doing the same thing for how many years now and they are getting the same results. Insanity ! Not fooling this Yankee fan. I hope the finish dead last! Yup you heard it here from a Yankee fan.

          It really kills me to say that but I really wish more and more Yankee fan would stop going to game until they turn it around and sign some good different ball players.

          I’m PO as a Yankee fan on how this off seaosn went. I swore I was convinced that Corbin would be a Yankees.

          They did nothing but leave a bad taste in my mouth and that will never change until I see changes and I refuse to watch them!

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        • fitsiqis65

          6 years ago

          Nice. I’m in my late 40s and grew up in the Bronx. I cried as an 11 year old in 81’ ad i watched from my fairly gross apartment the lights go out in stadium.

          Been to 3 games this year so far and possibly Monday if the weather holds with a college buddy.

          My issue not so dissimilar to bean and steve in that this team is so damn close to glory and possibly an epic run but thanks to the overrated GM can’t seem to get over the hump.

          The pitching has been an issue since we last won and ironically had an ace. That we still count on that ace is inexcusable. Cash needs to go and a GM who has shown guile and success with no resources should be brought it to give it a go with the org that the most power and resources.

          It’s that simple. Winning a Luke voight trade matters little compared to pitching. (I do like voight)

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        • Begamin

          6 years ago

          louie “fairweather fan” beans speaks once again. do us all a favor and never watch a game again. i dont want to stand anywhere close to you come playoff time

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        • Louiebeans

          6 years ago

          Don Mattingly, Dave Winfeld days. Going to Tampa to watch the Yankees as a kid. Getting Mattingly to sign a mattingly my dad caught at the game. Saying 100 Hail mary prays during the 90’s playoffs. Taking to the streets till 3am driving up and down during the WS wins. Hitting the parade in Manhattan. No fairweather fan here.

          I’m just tired of the same BS. Teams not the same the owners the dud!
          Open your eyes and see what they are :A fall short team who did not use the FA market to put them over the edge.

          No Yankee fan cares or wants to hear about under the caps. Give me a break. Go watch Gardner go 0-80 in the play offs I for sure won’t

          And yes I haven’t watched won game this year I swear on my wife and kid.

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        • Begamin

          6 years ago

          “team isnt as successful as the 90s so i dont watch, i swear im not fairweather tho”
          i watch and cheer win or lose rain or shine. youre acting like a spoiled manbaby because they arent perfectly aligning with your 20/20 hindsight vision and dont have HoFers on the bench. lmao go be a red sox fan you’ll fit in better

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  24. User 3617846742

    6 years ago

    Hal should have learned the lesson from George! Buy Cheap……Buy Twice…..!

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  25. Foreveryankees

    6 years ago

    Yankees blew a chance to get Justin Verlander Garrett cole Dallas keuchel if the Steinbrenner‘s don’t wanna spend money they should sell the team I am fed up with it!!!

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    • fitsiqis65

      6 years ago

      Sale, price and scherzer too…..

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    • Begamin

      6 years ago

      are you so fed up that youre gonna buy the team? lets see how much youre willing to spend. doubt it’ll be anywhere close to what theyre spending annually

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    • timewalk42

      6 years ago

      Be happy Dallas is not pitching to contact in Yankee stadium

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  26. timewalk42

    6 years ago

    Madison welcome to the Bronx. You heard it here first

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  27. robluca21

    6 years ago

    So the excuse from ownership was they didnt want to hit the 2nd tier in the luxury tax and move back 10 spots for a pick..in regards to not signing Keuchel

    So I guess when they trade 3 or 4 top prospects for a stroman or Bumgarner that will be ok ?

    Total BS penny pinching hal

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  28. ryanmcleod

    6 years ago

    You might want to re-check the Montgomery page you linked to:

    “Montgomery is on the 60-day injured list while healing from Tommy John surgery and is expected to be sidelined until sometime in August.”

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