The Mets have traded infielder/outfielder Jeff McNeil to the Athletics along with cash considerations, according to announcements from both clubs. The Mets receive right-hander Yordan Rodriguez in return. The A’s designated left-hander Ken Waldichuk for assignment to open a 40-man spot, which you can read more about here. New York is reportedly sending $5.75MM to cover part of McNeil’s $15.75MM salary in 2026 and will cover the $2MM buyout on McNeil’s $15.75MM club option for 2027 if the A’s don’t pick it up.

McNeil debuted in the big leagues in 2018 and played in eight different seasons as a Met. Through the 2022 campaign, McNeil had appeared in 516 games, stepping to the plate 2,039 times. He established himself as one of the hitters most likely to put the ball in play. His 6.8% walk rate was a bit lower than league average while his 11.9% strikeout rate was barely half of par. He showed a bit of pop with 46 home runs in that span, though 23 of those were in the 2019 juiced-ball season. Put it all together and McNeil slashed .307/.370/.458 for a 130 wRC+ over those five seasons, indicating he had been 30% better than league average on the whole.
In addition to his skills at the plate, he swiped a few bags and provided the Mets with a good amount of defensive versatility. He spent most of his time at second base but also appeared at third base and the outfield corners, generally getting good marks for his glovework. FanGraphs credited him with 15.3 wins above replacement in that span.
Going into 2023, the Mets signed him to a four-year, $50MM contract extension, just ahead of his age-31 season. That deal hasn’t been a disaster but McNeil’s production has declined since then. Up until he signed that pact, he had a .332 batting average on balls in play. That’s roughly 40 points better than typical league averages, a tremendous boost for a guy who puts the ball in play so often. But in the past three seasons, his BABIP has been just .269, which has led to a .253/.326/.389 line and 102 wRC+. Thanks to his glovework, he’s still been worth about two fWAR per year over the course of his extension so far.
The infield picture in Queens has become jumbled in recent years. Francisco Lindor has been a mainstay at shortstop since 2021. McNeil has been at second a lot but has also been moved around as the Mets have tried to find time for a crop of younger infielders consisting of Brett Baty, Mark Vientos, Ronny Mauricio and Luisangel Acuña.
As those players have been earning more playing time, to varying degrees, trade rumors around McNeil have picked up. The Mets further loaded up the infield by acquiring second baseman Marcus Semien from the Rangers as the return in the Nimmo trade.
McNeil’s defensive versatility meant the Semien trade didn’t completely kick him out the door but it was perhaps telling that the Mets acquired one of the most reliable, everyday guys to cover the position McNeil has played most often. Since McNeil will turn 34 years old in April and has just one guaranteed year remaining on his contract, a deal did feel likely. The Jorge Polanco signing added even another layer. He is expected to primarily play first base and serve as the designated hitter but some time at second or third base is possible as well.
The trade possibility was complicated by the fact that McNeil’s health is at least somewhat in question. It was reported in November that McNeil underwent a thoracic outlet procedure at the end of the 2025 campaign. His agent characterized the procedure as minor and said the expectation would be for McNeil to be back to normal in time to be a full participant in spring training.
The procedure doesn’t seem to have dissuaded the A’s, who have been looking for upgrades at the second and/or third base positions. The A’s have been rebuilding for a while and have had a lot of success at developing their young position player prospects. They have almost a full lineup of controllable players but they came into this offseason with some room to add on the infield. Jacob Wilson is the club’s shortstop and Nick Kurtz the first baseman, but the other two spots were wide open.
Zack Gelof flashed some home run pop when he debuted in 2023 but his strikeout problems have worsened since then and he was injured for most of 2025. Various other young players have received sporadic auditions while veterans like Luis Urías and Aledmys Díaz have also floated through.
McNeil will likely be the club’s regular second baseman in the upcoming season but his flexibility also allows them to pivot as things develop. Wilson is not an especially strong defender at shortstop, so he could end up pushed to second or third. He will probably stick at short for the time being but prospect Leo De Vries, acquired in the Mason Miller trade, is looming. He’s only 19 years old but he is one of the best prospects in the league and has already played in 21 Double-A games.
Wilson’s arm strength was ranked by Statcast in the 80th percentile this year, so handling the hot corner is a possibility, though the A’s might prefer to have him stick up the middle. As they sort that out, guys like Max Muncy, Darell Hernaiz, Max Schuemann, Brett Harris and Gelof will be trying to earn playing time as well. Injuries and further acquisitions will inevitably change the situation but McNeil can move around as circumstances dictate. He even played a bit of center field this year, so he can give the A’s some coverage for Denzel Clarke, who is an elite fielder but questionable hitter.
The A’s could have turned to the free agent market and tried to do so. They reportedly offered Ha-Seong Kim $48MM on a four-year deal, which works out to $12MM per year. Instead, Kim decided to bet on himself with a one-year, $20MM deal with Atlanta, as he will hope to return to free agency with a better platform.
Once Kim was gone, the A’s weren’t left with amazing options. Bo Bichette is still out there but the A’s are not going to meet his asking price and he wouldn’t want to play in a minor league park even if they did. Alex Bregman and Eugenio Suárez shouldn’t be quite as expensive as Bichette but those situations would be somewhat comparable. Below that tier, the top free agents are utility types like Ramón Urías, Willi Castro and Isiah Kiner-Falefa.
McNeil has a better track record than those guys and isn’t prohibitively expensive. Since the Mets are covering $5.75MM of his salary in 2026, the A’s will only have to pay him $10MM, a bit less than they were willing to pay Kim annually. If McNeil has a good year, they can pick up his $15.75MM club option for 2027 but they can also walk away for nothing since the Mets have agreed to cover his buyout.
RosterResource estimates that the A’s are slated to spend $87MM on next year’s club. It’s unclear where they want the budget to be but that’s already $8MM higher than last year. They could still use some pitching but it’s unclear how much more they are willing to spend.
The A’s are also parting with a lottery ticket prospect. Rodriguez is a Cuban righty who just signed with the A’s this year for a $400K bonus. He tossed 15 1/3 innings in the Dominican Summer League with 20 strikeouts but eight walks and two wild pitches. He’s still only 17 years old, turning 18 in January, and isn’t properly on the prospect radar yet. Baseball America says he was not going to be one of the Athletics’ top 30 prospects for the upcoming year. If he’s ultimately able to contribute anything for the Mets, it won’t be for quite some time.
The Mets will take the flier on Rodriguez and see if they can cash him in later. For now, it’s about moving some money off the payroll and likely opening themselves up for further transactions. It’s unclear what their next moves will be but an outfield acquisition feels inevitable after sending out both Nimmo and McNeil. Vientos, Polanco and Baty are projected to share the infield corners and the DH spot unless the Mets shake things up with an external addition. Further moves on the pitching side are surely forthcoming.
Time will tell how it all plays out but it’s the latest sign that there’s a changing of the guard taking place in Queens. Semien isn’t a young player but he’s only signed for three years as opposed to Nimmo’s five, so that move was at least somewhat about avoiding long-term commitments to aging guys. Letting Díaz and Alonso walk while trading McNeil could also be moves about preventing the club from getting too old. The Mets are looking for rotation help but reportedly don’t want to commit to top free agents on lengthy deals.
Owner Steve Cohen has an almost unmatched willingness to spend but that led to inconsistent results in the first few years of his regime. He presumably brought in president of baseball operations David Stearns to make the tough, analytical decisions about how to use the resources. So far, the results under Stearns have also been uneven but it’s only been two seasons.
Clearly, there’s a desire to avoid long-term pitfalls. Apart from the Juan Soto deal, which was an exceptional situation due to his youth, Stearns hasn’t signed a contract longer than three years with the Mets. He has let fan favorites walk away in free agency and has also sent them packing himself. The fan base doesn’t appear too happy at the moment, especially after the disappointing 2025 campaign, so it will have to work out in the long run for Stearns to win them back.
Jeff Passan of ESPN first reported the details of the trade. Photos courtesy of Wendell Cruz, Jasen Vinlove, Imagn Images

I love Jeff for many reasons but he’s also frustrating.
Agreed. Mets just clearing salary and cleaning up what used to be.
In other news, the blue jays designated Jonathan Diaz for assignment
Harrelson – is that always the first article on the loading page for you too? thought it was only me lol
I thought that was just my app lol
That’s so awesome. .. same here as well
Haha
Same
Jays have been DFA’ing Jonathan Diaz everyday for years now!
Yes, and it’s been that way for a long time!
Thank Jebus it wasn’t just me. I thought my app was broken and tried everything. It stopped now btw since I bought the paid membership. Sneaky sneaky MLBTR.
Sameeeeeee
Ah, interesting intel.
I thought it was just me
Holy cow, thought that was just me. Glad to see everyone else sees this too.
@Agee – That been the case for almost two years. The app is as old as the Yankees last WS win.
Thought this was just me lol
Same!!!
Haha same
Me too! How embarrassing for MLBTR. Not that it matters in the scheme of things, but kind of an egg-on-the-face situation.
embarrassing? is that really that much of a big deal to you?
it literally shows up for a fraction of a second while the page is loading!
horace – They could be freeing up the infield for Bo, there’s been a lot of smoke around it.
FPG: No, they’re clearing 2B for Semien.
Not good for the glove but Semuen could be moving back to short with Bo at second. Lindor can be great but he also has backage and perhaps both he and McNeil will be leaving Flushing.
Man, autocorrect at its finest. Semien misspelled was due to my fat fingers but “backage” was not (“baggage”).
Lindor has zero baggage. None.
LMAO same here, I even deleted the app and reloaded it thinking that would stop.
Clear the app cache maybe? Uninstalling doesn’t always delete app data.
They are clearing space to add Bellinger. I see them going 4/130 with option 5th yr and $10 million buyout. They will overpay for shorter term and unfortunately unless Yankees go 5/150 I consider him good as gone. Let him walk cause I’m already disgusted with this team and won’t spend a dime to watch these clowns managed by Boone.
Anthony maresca: No they aren’t. If you’ve paid attention, you know that’s not Stearns’ style.
Anyone signing Bellinger to four for $130m deserves a Philippines’ style lashing. He’s a good player who is worth the most to the Yankees.
I think you mean a Singapore caning, but maybe they do it in the Philippines as well.
There’s no way that’s happening. They are tearing the team down to the studs. No reason to add an expensive veteran to the steaming remains of a roster.
Caning is referred to as lashing. I never meant with my wife’s whip…lol
Clearing salary? Sounds more like they are clearing out the whole clubhouse!
They’ll need to have a get to know you (whole new team) meet and greet at the beginning of the season.
Good golfer but his baseball days are pretty much over.
I think you just summed up how many Mets fans feel about Jeff. Love ya, best of luck, fine with seeing you go.
Enjoyed his excitement, not his bat. The opposite with Murphy, though, thinking about players that are one but not the other.
The squirrel will enjoy the city of trees.
Mets lost they’re Paul O’Neill today.
Hardly.
He’s been bad vibes for several seasons. Happy to get a fresh face in.
@dugmet. He also has t.o.s. so he was about to be more frustrating. Mets trading him for a bag of balls is a steal
That’s McNeil in a nutshell. He played well for the Mets 3.5 of the 5 seasons, and even his down season or so wasn’t horrible. He won the batting title one year. His problem was he supposedly rubbed ppl the wrong way, and eventually he wore out his welcome. The clubhouse was rumored to be a mess last season, so the shakeup makes sense.
I bet he’s thrilled to get this text from the Mets. Hey Jeff you’re going to play in a Minor League Park for……….. Well maybe forever before they get a real one. Kansas City might get their Football Stadium in the land of Wheat built first.
@dugment He does lapse into the conviction that the point of baseball is to golf pitches into the left field foul stands.
Either way, that was a truly half-witted Mets move wrt McNeil. He was a 2-win 2Bman / LFer / RFer / bench bat who can handle CF in a pinch, and the Mets payroll is at $293m after paying the A’s $7m to take him.
Meanwhile the Mets need:
—a LFer
—a 2Bman who can actually hit.
—a 2Bman whose platoon-handedness complements Semien.
—a platoon CFer on occasion vs. RHP
—a solid bench bat especially vs. RHP, and with a solid OBP vs. LHPing.
The Mets, with the richest owner in the game, decided to dump the player fitting all five needs, above. to save $10m. McNeil’s also the kind of player most postseason-bent teams need: A fringe starter / 4th OFer who can play 2B/1B, is good enough to DH–especially against RHP–and come in off the bench.
Is this really a guy you give up to do… what, exactly? Save $10m because that’s the difference between adding a competent LFer on a one-year deal? Or because McNeil was occasionally upset when he K’ed? Or because you added a 17 yo reliever who might marginally help the team in 2033?
McNeil is a great super utility and former batting champ, but there have been repeated rumors that he was a problem in the clubhouse, which seems probable given his public outbursts over the last few years. He had an altercation with Lindor a couple seasons ago and then more recent rumors of other instances he wore out his welcome. Solid player for a number of years, but they needed to clean up their clubhouse.
Didn’t see this coming. Interesting pickup for the A’s who have a quietly solid lineup developing.
In 3 years their lineup will be amazing
and Fisher will have traded them all by the time they get to Vegas.
Actually I think he’d move the “expensive” players after the first year in LV. Have to bait and switch the new ticket season holders at least initially.
Not before the stadium is fully built.
And maybe not at all.
I could easily see Fisher build up the team through the first year in Vegas and then sell it for a huge windfall.
As an A’s fan, that’s what I’ve been predicting through all of this. I’m convinced he sells the team within 2-3 years of the move.
Sell the team at a high with the new stadium but not have to pay all the contracts. We all know Fisher isn’t in this for the love of the game lol
I don’t know he has a pretty sweet deal where he pays zero income tax and zero business taxes in LV. he would have to be blown out of the water since all he needs to do is keep the payroll low and accept all that sweet gambling money
His plan all along, why owners put in language that makes him pay MLB a percentage if he sells shortly after relocation.
But how much money will he make? Spending 1.5-2 billion on a stadium to increase the value of the team 1-2 billion? Seems like dumb math, but this is Fisher after all.
Enrico
True that. He probably won’t sell before 2029. The tax is 20% in 2028. But in 2029, A’s fans could be “Fisher-free”.
2029 Sale: A 10% tax.
2030-2033: A decreasing percentage tax each year.
If he makes it that far. Think there is a solid chance he sells the majority stake as he can’t sucker, I mean find anyone to significantly invest in the team and it’s been a couple of years. No one wants to get in business with him so to afford to build, he’ll have to give somewhere. Not sure when the MLB tax kicks in, I assume not until they are actually relocated. One reason they might not of moved to Vegas yet and stayed in Sacramento, besides the TV money.
To get the other owners to agree to waive the relocation fee, Fisher had to agree that if he sold the team within the first 10 years of the move, he would have to give the league a significant percentage of the sale proceeds. Fisher is not selling until that 10 year period is up.
As I said above, if Fisher sells the team within the first ten years after the move, a significant chunk of the proceeds goes to the league. That’s what he had to agree to in order to get the other owners to waive the relocation fee.. So he’s not selling within 2-3 years of the move.
@mlb. Fisher signed something with the owners that he cant sell the team. Its part of the relocation deal, I guess he can but it has heavy penalty fees. Everyone knows he’s a cheap s.o.b. so it’s highly unlikely.
It’s pretty close now
As a braves tan and genuinely would feel bad for A fans
Fan
Yes; and than the dismantling will begin; they will trade all of em; its gotta be tough to be an A’s fan in this generation
@Bummy. The A’s have the tenth best winning percentage since 2000, so it’s not that tough. It sure is tough to be a fan of specific A’s players because they dont last. I only buy generic or A’s past great jerseys instead of the current roster.
In 3 years a lot will change. Always does, not just a knock on A’s ownership.
After not landing HSK on that reported 4/48M deal to play 2B (HSK re-signing in ATL for 1/20M) — not surprised they went this route. Though I didn’t see this outcome.
Never trust the nepo loser owner. He’s only spending to avoid grievance abd opted to move to Sacramento to stay in region and collect cable TV deal money. Maybe things change in vegas but hard to give him benefit of the doubt
He’s so committed to Vegas yet he stayed in CA to keep that TV money. Something people really don’t talk about enough.
cinema m
Poor Jeff. At least Mets can now sign Bellinger
Yeah poor guy. He’ll make $17.5 million to play for one year in a great hitters park. Dude could have a career year in that place.
Draker and a walk year at that!
If the lack of AC in 110 degree heat doesn’t kill him!
@Wade….Central Valley gets hot, but it seems you’re jumping to Vegas non-peak temperatures a few years early.
I did pretty much go straight to the highest possible temp in the area. 105 isn’t uncommon though.
Aside from the move itself, I imagine he’s throwing an epic tantrum somewhere about having to play in that stadium
MetsSchmets. Maybe, but it’s an extreme hitters park and he’s in a walk year. This may be perfect for his bank account.
He’ll find a reason to scowl
Rookie ball pitcher – so it’s like the Carlos Beltran trade where the Mets received rookie ball pitcher Zach Wheeler
Nearly 15 years later, I still have nightmares about that trade
Won’t take quite that long IMHO. I’m looking at LDV, Tommy Tanks, Bolte, and JKG all making their debuts next year. Some progression from guys like Colby Thomas and Max Muncy. It could be amazing in one more year.
We’ve built up so much depth to where the lineup should be able to absorb injuries from just about any position outside of C and not lose too much overall production.
no
wheeler was 1st rd pick, 6th overall and in A+ when he was traded
rookie ball means a 17 yr old nobody from cuba
lolmets are back baby
and more embarrassing than ever
Trading away a 2 win second baseman in his 30s for salary relief and a low level prospect is the most benign move imaginable. You’re really reaching for a narrative here if you think this is “lolmets”
They’re swapping a productive ballplayer for a lottery ticket. Plus they’re clearing salary so they can sign whatever the dying tabloids want for the next version of LOLmets.
Chucky and chandler sittin on a tree…
Chuckster, what have your Yankees been doing this offseason?
Doing things sensibly, not like the Toronto Blue Jays who are trying to buy a championship before the inevitable lockout next December.
They are swapping a “productive player” for three reasons:
1. I suspect he’s an unpopular player in that clubhouse and always seems like a miserable dude.
2. It clears some money off the books, and opens up a roster spot.
3. They clearly have the means and resources to bring in somebody better…. either from outside the organization or from within since they have an elite, top ranked farm system including several players who profile similar to McNeil.
So you’re saying the guy the Mets just got is a future Phillies ace?
You have to wait a few years for him to work things out, Von. But as soon as he begins to put it all together, then you can have him.
Haha. I think Stearns and Cohen are smarter than the previous regime. So no more Phillies gifts sadly.
VonPurpleHayes: Smarter than Fred and Jeff Wilpon is a fairly low bar, although many people forget that Wilpon hired Frank Cashen back in 1980 and presided over a pretty good run in that decade.
Nothing more than a lottery ticket. Could be a $1 billion winner, but 99.9% likely it is a loser. In the case of Powerball tickets, one in 292 million odds of winning.
@vonpurplehayes – lmao this made me chuckle. My point was simply that you never know! And I think getting something for McNeil, dumping his salary and opening a roster spot has value. I love what the Mets have done so far. They just need to add 3-4 players to replace what was lost
interesting
Mets send mcneil AND cash to help cover McNeil’s $15.75 million salary, AND the $2 million buyout on a club option for next year… for a rookie ball pitcher ?
Stearns grade for this offseason is now an F-
should be fired immediately. not tomrrow, not next month, today. NOW this very gdam minute
Meh… Mets just wanted to dump McNeil. He’s no longer really a starting-quality guy and holding him at that salary wouldn’t have made sense. Plus they just didn’t like his clubhouse energy.
I have no problem with Stearns blowing up a core that didn’t really win very much. There’s now like $65M of payroll space until they hit their 2025 number and believe me, they will spend most of that. A big bat, hopefully Tucker, is on the way.
dont need tucker
dont want tucker
dont need his $500mil price tag
dont want his $500mil price tag
medicore 2025 season
bring back the polar bear
and the greatest CL they ever had
trading mcneil is fine. receiving nothing in return AND paying his salary is not fine
Chandler, Tucker is already wearing Mets PJ’s around the house. Just waiting for Christmas to make it official for your present!
i couldnt care less what they do anymore
it just continues to be a humiliation to ever be a fan of this organization
i wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy
Hey I loved Pete but he was a very limited player. Tucker is way, way better. So is Bellinger.
“Hey I loved Pete but he was a very limited player. Tucker is way, way better. So is Bellinger.”
you couldnt be more wrong
Tucker not sniffing anywhere near $400 million let alone $500. He be lucky to get 8-9 yrs at $35-37 million avv. He will barely top $300 million
Then stop commenting if you don’t care.
I like team continuity too but Pete, Nimmo, Jeff didn’t win over the last decade and Jeff in particular is such a negative dude. Time for new faces. Bring on Benge, Williams, Clifford, etc. and a maybe Tucker.
And re Diaz, people forget that in 2024 Mendoza almost had to take him out of the Closer role because he was having another crises of confidence.
They made the NCLS two years ago. Stop crying.
He’s a 3 WAR player.
it was the pitching that blew up and collapsed down the stretch not nimmo not alonzo,not mcneil,and diaz had very few save oportunities down the last month and a half,and neither bellinger or tucker are worth the money they are asking for.ive read he wants 10 yrs for 40 mil and bellinger wants 8yrs for 250 mil.neither are worth that,as long as all the owners band together and refuse to give either of them over 5 years,they will be waiting until spring training for a job.further more i hope alanzo does great and mashes the ball except, when he is playing my favorite team wich is the yankees.wich in my opinion is another team thats a disaster.they have no direction either.does anyone want to argue that one today or later next year?
2025 was 2.0 WAR in 122 games played. Averaged 2.0 WAR and 101 OPS+ over last 3 seasons. He was a 2.0 WAR player. Going into his age 34 season in 2026 so will decline. Add having TOS to that and decline may be steeper. Whiny clubhouse cancer.
I can see why the Mets dumped him for a 17 year old lottery ticket.
$500 mil lmao. Not gonna happen.
Billy Wagner is like 55 man….
OK, then quit following the Mets and don’t watch. Then you’ll have nothing to whine about.
He’ll easily get over $400 million, no problem.
It just might happen, Ramos.
Huh?
That’s what I think too.
Now they’re not even a playoff team anymore.
He might clear $300 million, but even that’s no guarantee.
@Camikey: fyi, chandlerbing is a Mets-hating troll. You can ignore him. The Mets could trade Luisangel Acuña straight up for Ohtani with the Dodgers covering the entirety of the deferred money and he would still give the Mets an F- and carp about Stearns.
Thanks for clarifying
Not the MAN in a lineup, lol! Where do you people come up with this crap?
They’re getting $10m in salary relief on a mid-30s second baseman on a potentially expiring contract who now plays a log jammed position, and getting a lottery ticket young prospect on top of it. This doom and gloom “fire the GM” stuff is so, so, so ridiculously out of alignment with how ultimately inconsequential this move is likely to be.
@candy
you’ve never been a mets fan
and you have zero clue what you’re talking about
and i say that with love. you have absolutely no idea what the f you’re saying right now. nobody does. only the poor pathetic miserable mets fans who have had to endure this cursed circus freak franchise for decades
I have zero faith that you’re actually a Mets fan.
I am a Mets fan dork
Sorry, Candy, I was referring to chandler.
@cami. Hey sorry I meant candy this is it.
Chandlerbing, you have zero clue what you’re babbling about.
Go take a deep breath and a walk outside.
@chandler. McNeil has t.o.s. so far only one player came back from it that’s merrill Kelly. Trading him for a broken soda machine is a win to clear salary.
McNeil has had surgery to fix his Thoracic Outlet Syndrome. That’s a death sentence for players, as even in the best of cases the players who do come back from it are very mediocre shells of their former selves. Probably safe to say he’s done now, and even if he wasn’t, do you really think he would have been around on the next contending Mets team? He’s entering his age 34 season next year.
Jarred- so are you saying Wheeler is most likely done down in Philly??
I guess when you put it that way I can see your point. This offseason has seemed kind of like a bloodletting for them. After giving away prospect for rentals at the deadline, for… Although it’s still early, lots of guys are still available. Slow offseason, as we all know. But it has seemed somewhat alarming. I thought Pete would likely be back. I can totally see why Mets fans would not be happy right now.
“98 comments are hidden because you muted the comment authors”
Lol, im sure i missed alotta zingers aimed at me
And alotta sad excuses for the pathetic muts
chandlerbing: And you’re proud of this? How many people have muted you?
Have you considered the possibility that it’s not always the other guy?
Wow, McNeil is a solid player. Good move by the Athletics.
Jo1990:
I’d say he’s more a meh player at this point
He will bat 8th and is a stopgap for De Vries
Change of scenery and a chance to play everyday might do him some good.
Jo1990: Not after the TOS surgery he just had. He’s cooked.
2.0 WAR with a 111 OPS+ is a little better then meh…..11 points better than meh to be exact LOL
braves25:
I’ll stick with the “meh” descriptor
braves, its exactly meh in WAR and slightly above average in OPS+.
Meh is right.
2 war in only 122 games. He had a solid year.
He had a meh year. 2026 will be his age 34 season and he had TOS surgery after the 2025 season was over so you can count on a regression of both the age and injury types.
Meh is a huge upgrade for the A’s at 2d base.
find me the 9th best hitter in a lineup on any other team that’s positive in both WAR and OPS+
*was
I’m just blown away the A’s made a move. That said, he’s a decent stopgap until De Vries is ready.
Tucker incoming?
Something for sure
Me thinks you give too much credit to Stearns. Same thing was said after the Nimmo trade as well. And……crickets. Stearns is NOT paying Tucker or Bellinger. They are not dumpster finds which is his preferred method of player acquisition.
Refresh my memory: Who was the Mets’ POBO when the team signed Soto to the largest contract in baseball history?
Stearns doesn’t pay anyone That would be Cohen.
Selective memory much? Soto was the only free agent the Mets signed for over 3 years last off-season.
Dankyank, so? Bringing up Soto proves Stearns pays the right players big money for long contracts and doesn’t expose himself to players that may face value collapse during their contract.
Tucker is the kind of player you lock in for years, and nothing about Stearns’ behavior would indicate to me that he wouldn’t make this move.
In fact, the short contracts for non-star level players means you can make plays for the top FA.
I doubt the A’s sign Tucker.
Dude’s cooked. Athletics honestly overpaid for him.
vaderzim:
I wouldn’t say he’s cooked. He’s probably about average. He plays a lot of positions. An OK one year stop gap guy.
That’s true, and he could still have a Jed Lowrie-esque resurgence with the Athletics. New ballpark could make a difference too.
How is that an overpaid? Jeff can play multiple positions in the infield and has played CF as well as LF.. good contact hitter and may do very well with his new team for 10mil not bad at all! For the Mets he was just too dramatic.. and with so many young infielders it just didnt make sense to hold on to a player thats going to eat away playing time for the youngsters!
Not cooked, but not super impactful. He can play a number of positions in the infield and outfield to a decent level and he can still hit around or above league-average.
$10m and a 17 year old DOSL arm for a 2 fWAR player?
That’s not an overpay.
Not a bad move by the team formerly known as the Oakland Athletic’s.
West Sacramento Athletics.
Surprised Mariners didnt look into this.
Surprised the Marlins didnt, either, seeing that the Mets were paying for him
Mariners fan here saying ‘No thanks’ on McNeil. He’s a cranky has-been and the Mariners need to aim higher.
The Mariners actually did look into this about six years ago. I believe they were willing to eat more of Canó’s salary if the Mets parted with McNeil instead of Gerson Bautista. Of course, the squirrel was still under arbitration then.
Another move that helps keep uncle Steve out of the poorhouse
If you are going to change the core out, he was part of that group (and the most frustrating one). Addition by subtraction here. He gets a fresh start, the Mets get a lottery pick and a bit of salary and roster relief.
Frank the Tank is jumping for joy.
This Mets complete lineup change ain’t going to work. Downgrade Alonso and Nimmo. Send McNeil out too. Stearns trying to create Brewers east while having money
It’s December 22. Talk to me in three months when we know what the 2026 team is actually gonna look like.
I keep hearing comments like “it’s still early”, “be patient” meanwhile, names keep coming off the board. I honestly do not think they are going to spend much more. Why get Tucker or Bellinger if the lineup will not be anywhere near as productive as last year and more importantly, why spend on any of those guys if you’re not going to upgrade the pitching which was the true culprit of the Mets failures the last couple of seasons. We got lucky in 2024 when EVERYTHING broke in our favor but the results of our pitching rotation in 2025 were a more realistic view of what we had in terms of pitchers. Not one of them would be an ace…. A true ace on any other major league team.
We don’t know each other but if we were buddies sitting in a bar I would bet you drinks for the rest of our lives that the Mets are spending at least another $50M on 2026 payroll.
I will miss Pete, but I am sort of excited to see what the youngsters will finally bring once they arrive.
We’re not there yet, but…
It’s still early. be patient. Guys are not exactly flying off the board. This is a slow offseason. They are more like trickling off the board.
Exactly! The Mets didn’t win with the core they had. Throwing more money at Pete and Diaz wouldn’t change the landscape. McNeil is going to continue in a downward spiral especially after TOS surgery. Stearns is looking at a group of young players especially the young pitchers and build around that.
In the words of the great Steve Sommers “From your lips to God’s ears” Lol! 😂 I hope so but I just don’t see it happening. It’s going to take a lot to replace the offense. Potentially Tucker or Bellinger and another player or two. Each are going to want at least $30 million. We also have to upgrade our starting pitching. Could the spend $50 million….easily but will they? I’m not so sure.
If they land Bregman that would be nice. Bichette and Tucker seem very unlikely given what they have traded out
I’m a longtime Mets fan. We’ve seen this flick dozens of times. The Mets aren’t going to do enough to contend. We will be celebrating 40 years since our last WS title in 2026 though!
They’d have to be good enough to win enough games to earn a playoff spot first. They just aren’t there.
amk1920:
Wouldn’t this comment make more sense if the off-season were over?
Some people seem to think it is. Must be their first offseason.
Yikes Mets. I get you’re cleaning house of the old guard, but that couldn’t be more of a dump of a deal.
A’s could use his veteran presence, so good on them.
Poor Jeff. You’re in Purgatory now. Merry Christmas
Eh, the A’s may surprise you. Exciting offense.
He is not a leader. Best thing is he keeps away from the young players for the As sake. Just come and play where they need him until his contract is done.
Maybe just maybe, McNeil had some valid points, Maybe he could’ve been given the chance? I dunno, A’s seem like they want to give it a shot.
Salzilla: This is obviously the best deal they could make for him now.
Why’d they need him gone? Especially if they’re sending money out with him it’s just furthers the bad look with how they’ve treated their old guard.
“that couldn’t be more of a dump of a deal.”
Did anyone expect more than that? No team was giving up much for McNeil. Mets core peaked in 2024. They added a little for 2025 and struggled. Were they supposed to keep the same team and run it back again? Were they supposed to bring back Alonso, Nimmo, and McNeil and have a more expensive version of their 2025 roster?
Mets have a lot of young talent that they’ve been hoarding. It’s time to see if any of these guys are as good as the hype. Retool for 2026, spend next offseason to fill in whatever is needed. Mets don’t need another bloated payroll that gets them 83 wins.
It definitely bothers me when I see zero loyalty to players that have fought for you.
Salzilla- Yeah cuz loyalty is a core component of capitalism and a driver of all high stakes business decisions.
Yep. Youth balanced with veterans. Reduction in average age. I hope they don’t move Jett and Sproat but they are the most likely. Perhaps Vientos is the next ejection.
This won’t happen, but it would be fun to see how they coalesce. Defense would be very solid.
Jett-LF
Lindor-SS
Soto-DH
Polanco-1B
Alvarez-C
Baty-3B
Semien-2B
Benge-CF
Taylor-RF
That lineup should defeat the Nats.
Not only won’t it happen, but it should not happen. The distorted notion that minor leaguers, even highly regarded ones, are all going to waltz into the majors and hold down a starting job is fan-tasy. A few of them do, a great many do not.
I said it would be fun to see, not that we should see it.
I guarantee one more big move and two smaller ones at least to go overall. That includes starting pitching and positional.
It will disappoint some, but oh well.
Where’s all this young talent people keep talking about? I see McLean and Tong. Then Sproat with reliever risk. Benge & Jett at least a year away or more. And then three guys who look like they’re sliding to Quad-A status in Vientos, Mauricio, and Acuna.
Benge and jett should both be up this year at some point. They have four top 50 prospects.
I think they’re giving up way too early on vientos after a down year IMO. He was too good in 2024 to think hes completely shot now. Alvarez and baty still very young and look to be improving.
Agree on mauricio and acuna. Im actually more excited about Ewing.
“Where’s all this young talent people keep talking about”
Most of it is still in the minors, bud. McLean, Sproat, and Tong got their toes wet last year. Christian Scott did the previous year and is returning this year. They also have guys like Jack Wenninger, Johnathan Santucci, Ryan Lambert, and Dylan Ross who could make their way to Queens by season’s end. Those are just the pitchers. Position players, Benge, Jett Williams, Ryan Clifford may all see action this year. AJ Ewing and Jacob Reimer are probably 2027 but you never know. All of these guys are at least as hyped as Vientos and Acuña by scouts (or will be in my opinion). Mauricio was a top 100 prospect, though personally I have never been sold on him. I would attempt to trade him if I could.
Patience. There are so many guys coming up that even if most wash out, they’ll still have a few gems.
I think by end of 2026 we’ll be seeing Santucci, Ewing, and Reimer on top 100 lists.
Sounds like no one wanted McNeil. He had a decent run as a NYM, but the tantrums became tiresome for a veteran player. He’s a plus utility defender at a few positions, the A’s will like him.
With regard to the McNeil/Lindor nonsense, if you wanna be the captain of a mlb team, in my opinion, Lindor needed to find a way to make this not a known issue. So, in my book, he’s not captain material.
Is he the rat guy
Nimmo is the source of the Puma article. Scorched earth and not very classy. Lindor and McNeil are equally at fault but no one should have ever known about the issues.
Very disappointed in Nimmo.
I’m sure his heart will be forever broken after getting this monumental news. He’ll never be able to read your book again with a smile
Actually they should listen to him, because I’m sure jdawg speaks for a certain percentage of the fanbase. He’s not the only Met fan who feels that way.
I have been a fan since 73. People don’t know suffering until they lived through Seaver and Staub being traded.
My point was the culture was broken last year. Nimmo, McNeil, Vientos, yes Lindor, were part of that. The core didn’t like the new guard and felt they didn’t earn their way into the club.
Look at the records of the Mets the past two years with McNeil active and McNeil injured. Not definitive, but eye opening.
On his way out, Nimmo gave Puma some tidbits. Note that Puma’s article did NOT mention Nimmo…even though Ottavino implied his pride was injured with talk of captainship for Lindor. Classless.
Alonso will be missed. Díaz too.
McNeil, Nimmo, Vientos. Not so much. Sort of telling that Baty latched onto Lindor and Sarbaugh rather than Nimmo.
I wasn’t responding to jdawg, it was to the OP. I’m with j on his comment
Jdawg I’m 100% with you on what you said. It was the “my book” comment of the OP I was talking about. I’ve been a fan over 40 years so I know your paon
lol. What?
What in the world are the Mets doing.
BrianCashmansBurner:
In this case, getting rid of a player that’s not that good anymore.
Changing out the veteran core that couldn’t deliver enough success. Pending the additions that are yet to come, I’m anticipating a much better year from the Mets.
The only one they’ll really miss, IMO, is Diaz.
@BrianCashmansBurner: What are *you* doing, Cash? You awake?
Sir, how dare you.
I ran out of prepaid phone minutes, if you must know.
Save 10 mill to sign another player?
McNeil hasn’t been very effective. Smart to get some return here.
It’s crazy how the mets get rid of their dead weight and Yankees still have Stanton. Could he block it? he’s been with the mets more than five years
Stanton was one of their best hitters last year. I get that he’s only a DH and injury-prone, but we need right handed hitters and he was great last year. plus he has a no-trade clause and big contract
Plus he has a full no trade clause and his remaining 2/34 remaining is hardly an issue after Marlins paying $10 million each yr of last 3 yrs which includes $10 million buyout for 2028.
Only 7 years service time. Couple more seasons away from 10/5 rights
He cannot block it. A player must have both ten years service time, and five with the same team. Mcneil has a little over 7 years total.
Stanton was pretty sweet in the 2024 postseason. More like a godsend if I remember correctly. And Judge was on some mystical island swinging at gypsy moths.
He can play anywhere and he’ll give you a couple WAR. An okay pickup. Sounds like Stearns wants to get rid of everybody the fan base liked. If the Mets croak in 2026, I expect Stearns’ job will also croak.
CaseyAbell:
Jeff McNeil might’ve been a fan favorite at one point, but that’s not the case anymore. It hasn’t been the case in a little while.
Never saw McNeil get booed at Citi. The fans seemed just fine with him. Oh well, if the Mets have a rocky season in 2026, all the guys Stearns shipped out will suddenly become VERY popular with the fan base.
CaseyAbell:
I would say the fan base has become indifferent to him. I wouldn’t say he’s particularly liked at this point. Just another guy.
It’s nice to think so, but where’s the evidence that Cohen cares about what Mets fans think, and has the ability to act successfully on that?
He shouldn’t care what Mets fans think. The majority of them are idiots.
For the A’s fans here, I hope you get a lot of Happy Jeff and very little Angry Jeff.
Maybe Rhys Hoskins can sign with the A’s and he and McNeil can have a rather aggressive reunion! Check out the crybaby pantomime by Rhys!
youtube.com/watch?v=LRTcgppQZfY
Ah, written with the vagueness of old school MLBTR: A player traded along with some cash and a player to be named later of a certain calibre.
I’m OK with this, as a Mets fan. Time to move on from Jeff. Opens up $10 million in salary for the year.
One other thing. It sounds like Lindor is now running the team. They’re getting rid of everybody he doesn’t like (except Soto, of course, who’s untouchable.) Lindor better have a good season or he’s really gonna hear it from the always forgiving New York crowds.
This is likely not the case… Maybe they are getting rid of those who undermined the entire clubhouse…? Maybe the others have just kept their mouths shut about issues caused by McNeil, Nimmo?
Remember that Díaz is not in the same basket. They negotiated (poorly unfortunately) with him until the last moment.
I’m not in the Mets clubhouse, but I do know that Lindor is still around while guys he reportedly disliked are gone (except Soto, of course). So yeah, I think he’s more or less running the team.
Lindor with his guaranteed hundreds of millions probably okay if some self-absorbed NY fans boo him and they feel compelled to trade him/eat money at some point.
Re Soto, he’s far less untouchable than he is completely unmovable. As bad as that contract is, 2025 just took a season-sized bite out of his prime years.
I have a good feeling about Yordan Rodriguez.
17 years old. Regularly touches 96 while sitting 92-93. Has a slider with MLB level spin. One of the top pitching prospects in the DSL. He will make the Mets top 30 prospects by the end of 2026. He is strictly a reliever so probably won’t break into the top 100 overall, but he has late inning potential. Mets got a good one in what was a salary dump.
Are you kidding me? Dude? He won’t make the top 30 prospect in A ball. Are you related to him or his agent?
He has a snowballs chance in hell to even crack A ball.
Thats why his stats aren’t even listed or mentioned above.
Total Joke; Fill in Name of Player Here
You are a total joke. Well, I will be kind. Your knowledge of baseball is a total joke.
He is a 17 year old that touches 96 regularly and sits 92-93. He has. 2700 rpm spin on his slider which would rank in top 5 in MLB. He has a good chance of being a late inning reliever and he will absolutely make A ball this coming season. He was one of the best pitching prospects in the DSL even though all he did was pitch in relief. You really need to learn how to look for a player’s stats. Total joke to say they aren’t listed anywhere. .
Very unlikely. In addition to the sad fact that TINSTAAPP, he’ll be an 18 yo reliever in Rookie ball, with ongoing control struggles. Those guys never make top 30 lists. Far too much variance, far too much failure.
Wow, first time I’ve seen a prospect born in 2008 not just involved in a trade but highlighting it. Look like big power searching for control.
That’s because he was Fill in Name of Player here!
Joke, you don’t even see his stats mentioned in the article.
You will never here of his name again…
Complete give away.
Stearns is a JOKE
He was born not too long ago.
California Jeff moving back to his home state. Sort of. Enjoyed having him on the Mets – a well above average hitter who could play all over the infield and outfield. Good pick up by the A’s.
Also surprised by my fellow Mets
Fans who didn’t see this coming.
Even with regression its easy to think McNeil can hold a 2.0 WAR with his avg offense and defensive versatility. At 8m per WAR(on avg), the A’s looks to have gotten a deal. The A’s are one owner away from being a big time contender. Theyre putting together a very interesting future.
At least come out and be honest with us fans. You are going to rebuild. Stop the bs. Wasted Soto in his prime to rebuild and not compete. Stearns and cohen both suck.
What evidence do you have that they’re “rebuilding”?
Well said. After all it is fact that adding Soto did not make the Mets a good enough team to make the playoffs. They still couldn’t win enough games to earn a playoff spot.
Certainly not Soto’s fault that the pitching didn’t hold up. He was outstanding. Everything they wanted when they signed him.
They did trade for pitching at the deadline, but it wasn’t enough.
“Certainly not Soto’s fault that the pitching didn’t hold up.”
6.2 WAR and 160 OPS+. Soto was incredibly good. Down the stretch in August and September he was even better than incredible with a 180 OPS+.
Was it good enough to help the team make the playoffs?
Nah, rebuilding teams get younger. The Mets are getting older players.
Mets let go of Alonso – 31, Diaz – 32, Nimmo – 33, McNeil 34. They added Williams – 30, Polanco – 30, and Semien – 34.
They got a little younger with those moves.
Polanco is 32, semien 35.
Check again.
I got some of that wrong.
Alonso is 31.
Diaz will be 32 all season
Nimmo will be 33 all season
McNeil will be 34. in early April.
Williams is 31, Polanco will be 32, and Semien in 35.
I went with the ages in an article about the trade rather than look them up. Lazy = wrong.
Why do some people’s comments have no Reply button?
Not sure, just speculating. Could it be because their comment is a reply to a poster who you blocked?
It means they muted you lol
fred-3: I thought muting meant you don’t see their comments at all.
You could still see a comment from a user that muted you, but you can’t reply to them
fred-3: The strange thing is that with one guy on here, I see Reply buttons under some of his comments but not others.
What do you think is up with that?
I don’t know. I know when that happened to me it meant I was muted by the person.
Why does yours?
Ramos Splash Hit: I don’t know. Why does yours?
Probably for the same reason yours does. I’m not worried about it. What? Me worry?
LOL
From a Mets fan, thats a great pickup for the A’s i hope he does very well & no reason he shouldnt! his time with the Mets had to come to an end.. as a hitter hes a little too dramatic when things doesnt go his way & then the clubhouse feud with Lindor!
Was time. Best of luck to Jeff
Welcome to the minors Jeff.. I guess you need a better agent who would tell you to sit out then play for a crap organization who force there MLB player to play in triple a stadium because the owner didn’t want to print up the money to build a stadium in Oakland and is a cheap stake.
bigmike0424: That’s a lot of words to say you have no idea what you’re talking about.
No MLB player is going to piss away $15.75 million – or any salary amount – because of the team he’s playing for.
Maybe when you become a player, you’ll decide to sit out.
It’s *their.
Jeff should have a nice offensive year in that ballpark. This could parlay into a really good pickup for the A’s.
I wonder if this will help turn either one of these teams into playoff caliber teams?
Small market Stearns traded for crap. But at least it’s a prospect. Never traded for one before.
A prospect who will never crack A ball!
the deal is worth it for the A’s. He is a multipositional player and covers the 2 infield positions that are currently open and can cover an outfield postion if needed. Big aid to the A’s is he doesn’t strike out. I would expect this to be the end for Max Schuemann as I would assume Darell Hernáiz wil get the utility position on the bench as he plays better shortstop
Yup. Good call on the strikeouts. His k:bb ratio is terrific. As a Met fan I think this is win-win for both teams
And what do the Mets win exactly?
A 17-year-old nothing with the odds of him even making the minors is in the PPM.
This was just a Fill in Name Here just to show something came back!
He was one of the top 7 international free agent signings last year. Yes a far way away, but a kid with clearly a lot of talent.
@A’s Fan Squirrel only plays 2B in the IF, though on the basis that every IFer can play 1B, I guess you can call him a 2B-LF-RF-1B.
Get a starter please
I think McNeil lost the ex-Mets lottery with this one.
Trading for Semien made this move a no-brainer. It was only a matter of when, not if. A big signing coming soon. Will it be an OFer or an 3B or both?
The purge of veterans continues… I’m seeing Stearns’ plan less and less clearly, if he even has one.
Bringing Semien aboard spelled the end of McNeil. Paying $16 million for a 2 WAR left fielder (or a utility player with average defense) makes no sense. One may disagree with bringing on Semien — I think it is an improvement over Nimmo in a lot of ways — but I don’t think it is fair to say there’s no plan. Swapping Diaz for Williams and Weaver is probably a good “trade”. And while the swap of Alonso for Polanco is a clear downgrade, the amount of money saved, plus the savings on McNeil, could make it possible to buy Bellinger or even Tucker. And that’s not a bad plan.
@Bronxlou “Paying $16m for a 2 WAR left fielder… makes no sense” ?
The Dodgers would love to have cracked that code.
Half the teams in MLB lacked a 2 fWAR LFer.
Mets payroll for LT purposes is now $297m, down from $307m, and Cohen recently said payroll would be in the $310m-320m range. Any signing of significance added to simply filling positions with players in the $800k-3m range will put them over $320m.
Unless Cohen is lying (certainly possible), the main part of the Mets offseason is done, short of trades. Who had “Jorge Polanco” on the “big Mets offseason FA signing” square in their 2025-26 Bingo card?
Actually he refuted the reporting. He said he would imagine their payroll would be around the same level…but taking into account other personnel costs.
That was the angry reaction tweet.
Mets were at $338,5 million in 40 man payroll and $346.7 million in CBT payroll in 2025. They are at $297.6 million in 40 man payroll and $309.3 million in CBT payroll as of today.
I have no idea what Cohen said payroll would be because I have not seen an article or interview from him about that other than a tweet, but Stearns said they had no set budget.
Que venga Tucker o Bellinger
Mets just traded their Left Fielder. Now they need two regular Outfielders. You have to think Tucker or Bellinger are forthcoming
Rsox: McNeil was never going to be the regular leftfielder. And Carson Benge might start next year.
Jumping the gun on Benge a bit. He may get here sometime next season. That doesn’t mean he’d be ready to hold down a starting job from Day 1 that he does. And with just 54 AA and AAA games combined in his career, it seems a stretch that he’d be ready for opening day.
You’re right. But they won’t want to block him with a veteran on a long fat contract.
Moot point. A veteran FA plus McNeil would still not block Benge as he can play all 3 OF positions, and McNeil can play other positions, as well. And Mcneil was gone after ’26 anyway.
You better not shout.
You better not pout. Adios!
Great move for the Athletics to make the Astros and Rangers lives harder to stay #2 and #3 place. Not that either team is bad but the Athletics aren’t bad either.
Mariners really won the division in the last month of the season. Maybe even the last few weeks. I Think it’s going to be a dogfight for first in the AL west for the majority of the season.
They won it on the 24th of September. That’s I believe the final week of the season. No clue where the Mariners fans get we are dog dung.
When the Astros are at full health, I believe they can be better than Seattle. Question is, are they going to be at full healthy. (NO) So Seattle may be a better team but it’s not going to be as Mariners fan think. “We own the West, blah blah blah blah blah. Rangers will lose, Skubal will lose, we beat Skenes! Astros are dead! Angels stay dead! A’s will try and fail.”
In other words, it’s not going to be as close as Seattle fans think
I have no delusions that the Mariners are gonna own the west the way your Astros did for nearly 10 years, but as of right now they’re the best team on paper and have very few holes. They have the fullest pitching staff in the division. They don’t have a ton of injury prone or aging players, no bad contracts on the books, and they have plenty of ammunition in the farm system for trades and readily available reinforcements. We’ll see once games are being played, but I think the tides are turning now.
A’s last year at 2nd had:
* Luis Urías (OPS+ 82 & negative DRS)
* Max Muncy (OPS+ 75 & negative DRS) – but he was a rookie
* Zack Gelof (OPS+ 39 & slightly positive fielding Zone 1 & DRS of 1)
Reality is – this is probably a great move for the A’s for 2026.
If McNeil is just average at 2nd base he’s a positive pick-up for the team, with a better glove and likely to be a much better bat.
(oh and I left Max Schuemann off the list, but maybe he should be added, he was strong w/the glove in his 200 innings at 2nd and had an amazing 60 for his OPS+)
yikes
One of my favorite Mets players since he became a regular in their lineup. Think this will help A’s since he doesn’t strike out all the time and can get on base when he plays.
Meh. Once the Mets got Semien, Jeff had to go.
Still need to trade 1 or 2 of baty, vientos, msuricio and acuna.
Pretty sure it will be Vientos and one of Acuña or Ronny.
Personally, I keep Mauricio and Baty.
Please trade Mauricio! Terrible fielder, too much of a free swinger to make contact.
Yes. So what trade value does he have? Better off sending him back to AAA for a real length of time this year and see if he gets any better in those areas.
And defensively, his range at 3B is actually than average.
Why, exactly, do they “need” to trade any of those? Baty did well in the second half of last season. Mauricio still has 1 minor league option remaining. Acuna is a bench player (and is barely even that), and has little to no trade value, IMO. And Vientos is, at this moment, the DH.
As of right now, they have only 12 non-catcher position players to fill 11 spots. Three of those still have minor league options, and one is Jared Young, who can/will easily be cut.
Let me clarify/correct myself. Technically, 5 of them have options. But Tyrone Taylor has enough service time that he cannot be optioned without his approval. And I discounted Baty’s option on the premise that he will make the team on merit of his 2025 season. But n second thought, I should not have discounted the possibility that he regresses.
but the point still remains: a trade is not a necessity.
They still need a LF and 2nd person that can play CF.
You also have guts in tge minors that will be ready at some point in 2026.
Baby seems to be the everyday 3B.
Say Vientos DHs at times, when do acuna and mauricio play?
If they trade 1, acuna probably starts in the minors. But honestly, id trade 2 of them
BV: Okay. When they add new players, they can go ahead and move guys. And even then, who says it will, much less has to be one of those four? .
Acuna is out of options and cannot start in the minors. He is a PR and defensive replacement. Mauricio does have an option and can start in the minors.
I’m not saying not to trade them. But it is by no means a necessity at this point. I also feel you’d be selling so low on Mauricio, Vientos, and Acuna that thete isn’t much point to trading them. If you keep them and they go bust, cut them. You’re not losing enough trade value to worry about it. But the upside, especially for Vientos and Mauricio, is much higher than the downside of losing all their value.
Trade yes, agreed. But Jeff was a Christmas give away wrapped up in a bow of millions with absolutely nothing in return.
Sorry a 17-year-old anything is not even a flyer!
Player to never play later
I think this makes Peterson the longest tenured Met…?
Though Vientos has been in the system the longest I think.
Peterson and Vientos were drafted the same year. Peterson in the 1st round, Vientos the 2nd.
It was a good run the Mets. The second best 2B behind Alfonzo in Mets franchise history.
Lindor getting eerbody shipped out
Good move for the A’s that instantly makes them better. They were already top 10 in offense last year and have one of the more young, stacked lineups in MLB. Haters will say the young core will be traded in 3-5 years. The same haters were also saying the LV stadium would never be built. The team will be more competitive in 2026, possibly sniffing .500. Bullpen should be fine as they have like a billion young arms. Starting pitching needs some help. Wild card contention by 2027. Serious playoff contender by 2028. Path to another Championship should include beating the Yankees & Boston in the Division and ALCS series and then mowing over the Giants in the WS. Yep, good stuff in my pipe? Wanna hit?
By “haters” you mean “people who disagree with me.”
Several very sensible moves today by several teams. Good pickup for A’s
I don’t love shipping out McNeil, but I don’t hate it either. I actively don’t like the low return and the money we also shipped out.
I also don’t like relying on the likes of Acuna, Mauricio and Vientos to be everyday players when we haven’t quite seen that from them (they’re still kids who may need time to develop).
Med are not going to be very good next year.
I’d rather they just play all the young guys and see what they have instead of trying to get a stiff like Luis Robert.
Maybe they are trying to get Soto to opt out of his contract in a few years lol.
They’re building around Soto and the young arms. They’re getting rid of the loser core that won zero division titles in 7 years. As a Mets fan, I’m glad Alonso, Nimmo and McNeil are gone. They won nothing. The fans crying over them are way too used to losing.
They’ll lose more games next year without that loser core than they have in nearly a decade, and the worst GM in the league by light years is in charge of the rebuild. Enjoy your casino!
Then go be an Orioles fan since you love losers so much. You’re clearly a Pete Alonso fanboy and not an actual Mets fan.
You say this, but the last time The Mets had a great young pitching core they floundered. 2015 was the closest they got to a championship title and they lost to the Royals and started sinking right after. 1st and 3rd base is a ?, Simeon was 3% worse than league average on the hitting side last year. Not taking away from his GG by any means.
Mets are in the middle of a youth movement.
So they replace aging
Alonso 31…with Polanco 32
Diaz 31….with Williams 31
Nimmo 32…with simien 35
McNeil 33…with? Jason Heyward? Heard he is still good at run prevention. Mainly preventing his own team from scoring.
Sure, pretend like their farm isn’t stacked right now.
They replaced players on/seeking long term deals with players signed to shorter/cheaper deals. Makes sense.
Yes that McNeil deal was soooo long.
Diaz signed for 3 years
So half of what you said makes no sense. Meaning who knows what the actual plan is.
The plan is quite obvious and Cohen has said it over and over again since buying the team. When the farm is ready…
Lmao…cohen said if he didn’t win a chip in the first 5 years it would be a failure.
And idiots like you believed him.
Says the guy who brought up him saying something else.
Says the guy oblivious to the Mets top farm system so your opinions on anything are worthless.
Should I believe that or you gonna tell me nobody should on your next comment.
Btw most of those farms hands about 50% won’t amount to much so the statistics say.
Yeah we should just get rid of the prospects and buy all free agents. Has worked so well the last 40 years. Good call.
Prospects are a commodity. There are two types of commodities in baseball. Cash and prospects.
Some teams have very limited cash so they need prospects to become major leaguers to fill out their rosters. Some prospects are traded to fill out part of the roster. In the end cash is king, for every player gets paid.
The more cash you have the less reliant you are on prospects coming up to the majors to help your team. Spending in free agency to fill holes means you can stock pile more prospects. The longer you can stock pile the more of them you have.
The dodgers for example only have a small amount of their team composed of their former farmhands. The vast majority are free agents and players acquired via trades.
Why because they can afford to pay players more money.
Lower revenue teams need many cheap controlled players because they can’t afford as many current mlb players once they start getting paid more money.
Which type of team are the Mets? Low revenue, mid revenue or high revenue?
Like I said, your approach has failed for 40 years. Good thing the Mets didn’t trade Gooden, Strawberry, Darling etc. Good thing the Yankees didn’t trade Jeter Rivera, Posada, Petitte etc. Because of tv revenue, nobody else can do it the Dodgers way right now.
Dodgers approach doesn’t seem to be failing
You might want to Google their TV revenue so you can actually grasp the point I made.
Oh that they have a lot of money…the Mets don’t spend…got it.
Except for massive overpays (e.g. Severino) free agents aren’t signing to play for Fisher in a minor league stadium (and even Severino probably regrets doing so). So the only ways As can get their spending up to minimum comp balance standards is to extend their young talent (and they’ve already done a lot of that) or take on other teams’ unwanted salary, at a discount of course. This deal helps by lengthening their lineup with a postive hitter at 2B (although the 2B defense isn’t optimal and there’s no room for O’Neill in that OF). There may be a little cu;lture shock for McNeil going from the Big Apple to a Sacramento minor league park, but it’s only for one season and it probably increases his chance of getting a deal for his 34 year old season as he’s in a much better hiter’s park. But until the As improve their pitching staff — which as of now appears worse than going into last season — it’s hard to project them contending.
“Low return you mean NO return” odds on a 17-year-old anything going anywhere up are in the PPM. Just a Christmas present tied in a bow of millions for a player who may never play later.
Mets clearing money for Luis Robert!
Nice amount of information about Yordan.
I would of kept McNeil instead of what they received. McNeil still has a lot of value. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has a better season then Polanco and Semien. This is coming from someone that wanted him gone since I just think that its time to move on
Sweet…I got my golfing buddy back.
Is there anyone else that Lindor doesn’t like? If you are involved in every controversy, maybe you are the problem.
The Squirrel goes from the Mets to the Athletics. Let’s see what Stearns does next.
Overpay. He’s entering his age 34 season. Hasn’t been worth 3 WAR since 2002.
3 WAR is considered well above average. The A’s are paying him for about half that. Should get it unless he gets hurt, I would think.
He’s about to hit like .310 for them. They remind me of the early 2000’s Rangers team that could just mash and finish around 500.
Nimmo traded. Mets fans: NOOOOO
Diaz signs with Dodgers. Mets fans: NOOOOOOOOO
Alonso signs with Orioles. Mets fans: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
McNeil traded. Mets fans: Ok.
Alonso and Diaz had their mind made up on 9/28 when they told the press pool in Miami they would opt out.
Not surprising McNeil was traded. Surprising that it’s the A’s getting him.
I wonder what Met will be the new “Swiss Army Knife?”
He wasn’t great at any position but he was versatile.
It’s tough to watch these longtime Mets leave in free agency/trades, but I am thinking that stearns is right. The team wasn’t able to win with this core so now it’s time to try a different approach. I wish nothing but the best for these guys, but some new faces will be exciting to watch
Stearns hasn’t been right about anything since he took over. I’ve wanted McNeil gone for years. Now I’m not so sure.
I mean Stearns took them to the NLCS in his first year, the only time this loser core ever amounted to anything.
Which is why they’re currently dumping said losers. If they sign say Valdez and Tucker, we’ll be singing a different tune. And they just might.
There is so many haters here. Why?
And yes the Sacramento Ballpark is a AAA ballpark but so was Tampa’s and there were few complaints about Tampa. There have been several crappy ballparks over the years including many that have had ridiculous heat issues. More ridiculous than Sacramento. Why can’t we call them the Sacramento Athletics ? No not West Sacramento but Sacramento. Sports are filled with teams that don’t even play in their named cities. This was a good move. Period. I’m excited about the A’s. I don’t like John Fisher. But I fdon’t like Bud Selig, Rob Manfred, Giants ownership and the owners of several MLB teams. They all play a money game.
2026 Mets and Braves will flip spots in the standings compared to 2025
Mark it down
That’s a bold statement considering the Mets stink and Braves dealt with a ton of injuries
Really going out on a limb there
Trade for Kwan, sign Okamoto. Polanco to DH, Benge/Taylor platoon.
Do NOT trade for Luis Robert. Please no.
McNeil will be traded in the middle of the season. He’s a very useful player who’s going to play very well with the As’s if he stay healthy.
Trade Lindor for a real haul of players.
What fan goes to Vegas to watch a baseball game?
Anyway, welcome to the A’s, Jeff. You will have a solid clubhouse as opposed to that wreck you got traded from.
getting older, but still a quality batter
Why didn’t they just release him and save the money???
Mets fan should thank their lucky stars for some very nice years of McNeil. He always seemed to be a Braves destroyer so I for one will be happy to see him leave the NL East. I have always admired the guy. If he would have got 9000 at bats in his career we might be talking about a HOF player.
I think the A’s were the benefactor of the Mets wanting to move McNeil. The 17yr old rookie ball guy could be something in a few years or not. In that ballpark, he could mash and then golf the rest of the time; so he’s probably happy.
@ Merc I agree. Jeff could always keep the ball alive at an at-bat. He’s a good bad ball hitter, that isn’t always a good stat but its nice to have on the team. It is strange that the Mets gave him up for one prospect and they ate money in the process. Oh well strange, but Stearns probably had a plan.
On paper at this point, the A’s look like a better team overall than the Mets look.
I agree Garry. At least the Athletics offense looks pretty decent for 2026.
Going to be better than decent. Their lineup is going to be a nightmare for opposing pitchers. Now they have Wilson and McNeil, from both sides of the plate, that drive pitchers crazy to go with all the thump around them.
Pitching is an issue though and that will hold them back.
A’s have zero pitching.
Final fun fact…
David Peterson is the final player to have played at the MLB level under the Wilpons.
Traded for a kid who wasn’t even alive yet when the Mets had their 2007 collapse is crazy
There goes another domino that I was hoping would be on the Rockies. I am not a huge fan of the “doing absolutely nothing to improve the 119 loss team” strategy that seems to be employing. I know virtually nothing will make the Rockies a World Series contender in 2026, but they can at least try to take steps forward to mediocrity. I would honestly be happy with a 70-75 win season in 2026. At least I wouldn’t feel like I was wasting my time and money watching a team that is not even trying to get better.
The Rockies could get better simply by letting more young players develop at the MLB level. Really tough to do much worse than 43-119. Regression to the mean is their best hope right now. I do think they’ll sign a couple of the leftover free agents that everyone else passes on just to round out the roster and hopefully build some midseason trade fodder, but it’s not like they can go out and get a bunch of stars or even average players yet. Nobody wants to play for the literal worst team ever when they could have offers from teams who are at least trying to win games (Murakami to the ChiSox being the only exception, but his market was severely limited anyway). In trade, the only pieces Colorado might have available that anybody might want are a few of their relievers and possibly Kyle Freeland. That isn’t much. It’s tough to be, as they haven’t done anything cool in 8 years, but Rockies fans gotta remain patient and hope Depodesta can develop a core from within.
They tried that. Zac Veen last year hit around .100. Michael Toglia led the league in strikeouts and was eventually released. Development is what the minor leagues are for.
Free agents will play for Colorado. They have signed big names in the past. But this wasn’t even signing a free agent. This was trading some 17 year old in the DR that won’t even be stateside until 2029 for Jeff McNeil. Improving the team is far more important than turning the team into a AAA team for a few years and hoping.
Veen’s had 34 at-bats. Total. Hardly a sample size worth projecting from.
it was perfect for projecting from if you watched those 34 at bats. He was overmatched just about the whole time. I;m not saying that those 34 at bats say anything about his future. But they said a lot about his PRESENT. That is why he was sent back to the minors. That is what they are for..
I swear it’s like talking to a brick wall with you people on this site.
I’m sorry that me not sharing your OPINION on a baseball site is so upsetting to you. It doesn’t affect my life at all. Good luck to you. Hopefully eventually you will learn that you might not know everything before real damage is done to someone.
@beercan
Sometimes, rushing players before they are ready can ruin a promising career. Every rebuilding team uses short term players when the farm is not yet ready to produce. It allows the prospects to continue developing until they are ready.
Mets saved $9M. Use that money to resign Marte. He’s going to be cost effective, will take one year, and will be the veteran latin presence that could potentially mediate any tension between Lindor and Soto. Go get Bellinger. See if you can get anyone to take a package of Manea and Vientos/Baty/Mauricio/Acuna. Then wait out the pitching market to see who overplayed their hand and will be available in January.
I think it’s obvious now where this is going: Stearns is just trying to build the team through his own drafted minor league system.
Let’s be honest: the best player on the best team in baseball is playing on 90% deferred salary, they’re getting his production for free. Everyone wants to play there, taking pay cuts or massive Dodger friendly contracts (Diaz) or shutting down any real competition with other teams in free agency (Yamamoto). There’s really no way to stop them because you can’t assemble a roster as talented as they have without a huge amount of good players on cheap rookie contracts AND a huge amount of expensive free agent stars in their prime. The Mets are trying to do the former because the last few years they’ve only been focusing on the latter.
2026 is obviously going to be a rebuild: Stearns and Cohen won’t say that because ticket sales… but really 2027 is the target and this is probably the lineup that Stearns would love to trot out there:
C – Francisco Alvarez
1b – Ryan Clifford
2b – Brett Baty
3b – Ronny Mauricio
SS – Francisco Lindor
LF – Jett Williams
CF – Carson Benge
RF – Juan Soto
DH – Mark Vientos
Starters – Tarik Skubal, Nolan McLean, Jonah Tong, Brandon Sproat, Christian Scott
Closer – Devin Williams
All in all, a lineup and rotation like that would probably cost what, $200mil tops? That’s Stearns’ plan I think.