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Andrew Cashner Being Marketed As Reliever

By Steve Adams | February 24, 2020 at 12:16pm CDT

The 19 relief appearances that Andrew Cashner made with the Red Sox last year were his first bullpen outings since 2013, but it seems as though more could be in the offing. Cashner has been positioned as a bullpen option in recent conversations with teams, MLBTR has learned.

Shifting Cashner to the ’pen isn’t exactly a new notion. It’s been a widely proposed idea for years, and we even delved into it here last May when Cashner was still enjoying some success in the Baltimore rotation. That he’s now being “pitched” (awful pun intended — sorry) to clubs as a reliever is notable, though. The Athletic’s Dan Connolly noted last summer (subscription required) that Cashner’s preference has generally been to pitch out of the rotation, but it seems he’s now more on board with a ’pen setting — perhaps after enjoying some success in that capacity with Boston last year.

The Red Sox acquired Cashner to plug a hole in their rotation, but he did little to aid the team’s starting staff; over the life of six starts with Boston, Cashner pitched 30 1/3 innings and surrendered 27 earned runs. That pushed him to the bullpen, where he closed out the season with a 3.86 ERA, a 21-to-12 K/BB ratio and one home run allowed in 23 2/3 innings. Cashner averaged 93.6 mph on his fastball as a starter but 95.4 mph as a reliever. His swinging-strike rate saw a similar boost (8.8 percent to 13.1 percent). Taking a broader look, the gap between Cashner’s effectiveness the first and second time through the batting order (.297 wOBA vs. .327) was a fair bit more stark than that of the league-average AL pitcher (.317 vs. .335).

There are clearly some control issues that need to be sorted out, and Cashner’s recent work as a starter has been anything but encouraging. However, Cashner has enough indicators of legitimate interest as a reliever that the shift to the ’pen seems plenty sensible. That’s not to say that teams should be lining up with blank checks, but as a low-cost Spring Training flier for a club seeking bullpen depth, Cashner is one of the more interesting options available in a largely picked-over free agent market.

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  1. davemlaw

    5 years ago

    He could be a nice fit for the Nats or Cubs, both those teams need some bullpen help

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    • whynot 2

      5 years ago

      Could be said for just about every team

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      • Chief Two Hands

        5 years ago

        I don’t think “Cashner” and “nice fit” applies to any contender.

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        • Binnington50

          5 years ago

          Wait, the Cubs are a contender?

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        • robluca21

          5 years ago

          Cashner had had a solid career as a back end starter for a decade . Also no surprise he pitched some of his best ball in texas when he was throwing to jeff mathis.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          5 years ago

          could depend on the contract amount which should be minimal with incentives. Remember, he’s been placed in the pen in the past because he failed as a starter and was owed big bucks.

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        • HALfromVA

          5 years ago

          Don’t think he threw to Mathis when he was a Ranger- Mathis came on board just this past year.

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        • chesteraarthur

          5 years ago

          Depends what you count as a contender…fangraphs full season projection has them winning the central. I’m not real optimistic, though.

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        • 22Leo

          5 years ago

          Given the hype surrounding Cashner early in his career, the most accurate term to describe him is “bust.”

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        • 22Leo

          5 years ago

          I was referring to the comment suggesting it could be said that Cashner could be a nice fit for just about every team.

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        • westex87

          5 years ago

          He did not throw to Mathis in Texas, Mathis’ first year of his contract with Texas was last year, Cashner was not with Texas last year.

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        • twentyforty

          5 years ago

          If you don’t think they are you’re wrong.

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        • LouisianaAstros

          5 years ago

          Cashner still has electric stuff.

          Don’t think it was on the level of Brandon Morrow but his situation reminds me of Morrow.
          Morrow was lights out for the Dodgers in 2017.

          Guy with a great arm that never could put it together
          Pitching one or two innings he could.

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        • LouisianaAstros

          5 years ago

          Probably his comfort level pitching in the Metroplex.
          He played college ball at TCU.

          He was decent for awhile with the SD Padres as a starter if you look at the periphery numbers.

          Going to Baltimore sidetracked his career.

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        • Mikel Grady

          5 years ago

          Binnington50. Yes the Cubs are contenders . The marlins and orioles are not . Big difference . Central division is wide open. Injuries and trade deadline can change things quickly . Betters Keep betting dodgers and Yankees to win the World Series . Some day they will be right .

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  2. lowtalker1

    5 years ago

    He should have never been pulled from the pen. He was lights out.

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  3. Rich Hill’s Elbow

    5 years ago

    I don’t get why the Rockies aren’t interested in him as a starter, especially since he’s a groundball pitcher. I mean, they brought back Jimenez on a minor league deal…

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    • Rangers29

      5 years ago

      I was surprised the Rockies weren’t in on Brett Anderson for that matter.

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      • JustCheckingIn

        5 years ago

        Think Brett Anderson wasn’t in on the Rockies hahaha

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  4. Theghostoftycobb

    5 years ago

    His agent was like

    He couldn’t be any worse than when he was starting..?

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  5. Rangers29

    5 years ago

    Now I wouldn’t mind if the Rangers signed Cashner to fill in our long relief spot and maybe to be an opener if we have injuries.

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    • perry

      5 years ago

      A great fit for him and the Rangers. He did a good job for them the year he was there.

      Reply
  6. fred-3

    5 years ago

    Should’ve been converted to a reliever years ago

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    • Chief Two Hands

      5 years ago

      Or a ball boy.

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  7. stretch123

    5 years ago

    Bring him back to Miami on a minor league deal to try to get back some more value from that terrible Cashner for Josh Naylor deal lol

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  8. mgrap84

    5 years ago

    Im surprised the Orioles haven’t brought him back for the rotation. If he does good again then they can flip him again. Our rotation is horrible so he would easily be an upgrade over everyone. John Means is probably our #1 and if healthy Cobb #2 after that its a crapshoot

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    • dimitrios in la

      5 years ago

      All true but the O’s have some low-cost pieces they’re trying out this spring. Not sure how much of a legit upgrade Cash would be at this point.

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    • geotheo

      5 years ago

      That’s why he won’t sign with the Orioles. He doesn’t want to be flipped at the deadline

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  9. ScottCFA

    5 years ago

    “Just sign my client please. He’ll do anything for work.”
    -Andrew Cashner’s agent

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  10. MoRivera 1999

    5 years ago

    That’s not bad relief work. You’d think there would be lots of interest. Including the BoSox.

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    • dynamite drop in monty

      5 years ago

      Guy was ahhhhhhhtrocious for the Sox. Pass. Also, no bullpen is “complete” and there’s always room for improvement but I don’t see him as really improving on Hembree/Walden/Hector V as 6th inning/moppers. If Taylor/Hernandez continue to grow and Barnes , Workman return to form they just may be ok.

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      • MoRivera 1999

        5 years ago

        In the rotation, yes, of course. That was my impression overall as well. I remember that. But his numbers in the pen shown here aren’t bad at all. I’m surprised. That’s why I’d expect there’d be interest.

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        • tom brunanskys black sock

          5 years ago

          Small sample size. Low leverage.

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        • MoRivera 1999

          5 years ago

          23 IP with good numbers ought to be enough to take a flier for the last spot in the pen. I’ve seen far worse… I’ not saying he’s worth $5MM or anything. Maybe $1.5MM with incentives for $3MM. Maybe even a minor league contract.

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  11. whyhayzee

    5 years ago

    So he could become Andrew Less Cashner but at least he would have a job.

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  12. dynamite drop in monty

    5 years ago

    Should be marketed as a busboy.

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    • MoRivera 1999

      5 years ago

      Sorry but his ‘pen numbers say otherwise.

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      • tom brunanskys black sock

        5 years ago

        Ok, waitstaff then,.

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  13. HalosHeavenJJ

    5 years ago

    If he’s good one time through the order, then he can handle 2 innings a couple times a week. There’s value in that. And at his age, that’s a solid angle to try to stay in the game.

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  14. bhambrave

    5 years ago

    I don’t know his lefty-right splits, but a former starter with more pitches might be more valuable regarding the new three-batter rule.

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  15. swinging wood

    5 years ago

    Hey look. It’s the guy that turned into Anthony Rizzo.

    Reply
  16. Buzzed Capra

    5 years ago

    I get him confused with Wade Miley for some reason. They seem like the same guy.

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  17. its_happening

    5 years ago

    Good fit for a team going nowhere. Eat some innings, get some outs, give up some bombs. This is the same guy who said he’d sit out if he was traded to an undesirable team at the deadline last year. Not a winner.

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    • MoRivera 1999

      5 years ago

      One HR in 23 ‘pen IP. Not arguing whether or not he’s a winner but he had demonstrable success out of the ‘pen. Maybe this offseason has humbled him.

      Reply
  18. Orde1234

    5 years ago

    Seattle could use him as a starter or a reliever. He’s better than any of their relievers and even if he stinks as a starter so does the rest of their staff!

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  19. whosehighpitch

    5 years ago

    These are the articles I come to this site for.. Not this nonsense about Mookie Betts and the A’s or a jersey photoshop.

    Reply
    • JustCheckingIn

      5 years ago

      It’s a free website yet you’re complaining because they are giving you MORE content, still for free?

      What a tool

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    • spinach

      5 years ago

      Upvote.

      I bet Cash cringes every time he sees Ian Kennedy’s career earnings.

      Reply
  20. JustCheckingIn

    5 years ago

    I remember him coming up with SD, big fastball but just horrible command. And it seemed like every season an outsider was like “he should go to the pen” but SD was holding out for him to morph into an ace

    Wonder what his career woulda looked like if he came up in 2019 or 2020 as a rookie. He prolly woulda thrown 97-98 as a reliever when younger. Coulda been a much diff career, maybe a Hader almost? Coulda woulda shoulda

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    • Gravy Train

      5 years ago

      I think Cashner was simply overrated from the beginning, and as a result has just been a disappointment throughout his career. The guy was touted as a future ace and has barely been serviceable as a MLB pitcher.

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      • JustCheckingIn

        5 years ago

        He definitely was overrated. He coulda been an ace… if he took some of the worst control in the league and transformed to some of the best. Lol

        Maybe it’s just that, he wasn’t as good as touted. But he’s been a guy I’ve always felt his career could have been totally different with different circumstances (team, coaches, even FO, and when he came up largely)

        As an LAD fan, I thought he could be the next Peavy for them. Just never happened

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  21. Cubfan Mike

    5 years ago

    Wouldn’t it be great if he came back to the Cubbies and was good since we traded him for Rizzo. That would be awesome

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    • ChiSoxCity

      5 years ago

      You mean, like how the Yankees got Aroldis Chapman back after trading him for Gleyber Torres? Yeah, I bet that must have felt awesome for Yankees fans. cvbs are some suckers lol.

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      • wordonthestreet

        5 years ago

        But the 2016 World Championship stayed! Lol. Boy that burns you up

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  22. brucebochyisthemarlboroman

    5 years ago

    Phillies need to take a flier on this dude. They need as many pen pieces as possible.

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  23. AL34

    5 years ago

    He threw one good game against the Yankees when he was a starter with the Red Sox. After that he was horrid and they moved him to the bullpen, where he was better. I would not pay big money for him either way!

    Reply
  24. perry

    5 years ago

    Cash can play for any of teams now in relief.

    Reply
  25. rycm131

    5 years ago

    If I were him I’d move to Mexico.
    Super cheap cost of living

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