4:07pm: There is no formal directive to freeze rosters at this point, per Bob Nightengale of USA Today (via Twitter).
Some within the game are still hoping to squeeze in a 162-game regular season. Red Sox president Sam Kennedy (Twitter link via Jen McCaffrey of The Athletic) and White Sox VP Scott Reifer (Twitter link via Adam Hoge of NBC Sports Chicago) said as much. And Nightengale (via Twitter) and Jared Diamond of the Wall Street Journal (via Twitter) were among those to report the same from unnamed sources.
Of course, Diamond was also among those that have pointed to a recognition within the game that the initial delay will be for more than two weeks. And the Red Sox front office acknowledged in its conference call today that there’d need to be a second round of Spring Training before starting back up.
Those (and many other) factors will make it awfully difficult to make it to 162 while still wrapping up postseason play by even early November. Kennedy noted the possibility of holding games at spring sites or without fans, but even in that scenario it would seem to require quite some creativity to make a full season possible given the limits of how hard pitchers can be worked. Perhaps hosting postseason contests at sites impervious to the cold would allow some flexibility on the back end.
1:11pm: Yesterday, public health imperatives relating to the spread of the coronavirus forced Major League Baseball to pause Spring Training and institute a two-week delay to the regular season. The decision leaves many questions left to answer in the coming days, weeks, and months.
Teams are holding in place and awaiting further direction for the time being. MLB and MLB Players Association representatives are scheduled to meet this weekend to work out a plan, Jorge Castillo of the Los Angeles Times reports (Twitter links).
In the meantime, White Sox GM Rick Hahn says that MLB has temporarily paused player transactions, MLB.com’s Scott Merkin reports (via Twitter). The freeze will be in place through the weekend, at least.
This is certainly not the right moment for trades and waiver claims to be executed, so an immediate moratorium was all but certain. Presumably, a more formalized plan for dealing with roster matters will ultimately go into place. It’s obvious that some kind of exceptional measures will be needed.
Typically, this is a time of year when we begin to see a high volume of transactions. Many of those rate as relatively minor in comparison to the high-profile signings and trades that we focus on, but they mean quite a bit to the individual players involved.
To some extent, it’s not difficult to imagine a roster freeze from a logistical perspective. Dates for certain decisions can simply be pushed back. There may be some tricky bits to sort out, but they’re of relatively minor import.
The tougher questions relate to the potential for a lengthy stoppage. While the initial postponement of Opening Day covered two weeks, every indication is that further delays will take place.
For the time being, players are being kept on site in spring facilities. Teams are taking varying approaches, with some holding limited workouts and others canceling player activities.
Managing this crisis will require the league and union to work together to ensure a fair outcome for all players. Minor-leaguers aren’t even compensated for time spent in Spring Training, so the loss of anticipated in-season earnings would be devastating. And that’s just as true for the many workers around the country who rely upon ballgames to pay their bills.
Manfred waited till the last possible second to pull the plug after a whole bunch of other sports teams already did. Just another failure for Manfred.
I think you should use some other wording besides “public health imperative.” Perhaps “public health considerations.” The use of the word “imperative” implies that there was a municipal, state, or federal edict which forced Major League Baseball to discontinue spring training operations in Arizona and Florida. As far as I know there was no such imperative, and this was an elective action by Major League Baseball taken hastily with no advance notice and in response to public relations concerns and industry pressures.
It’s less that minor leaguers don’t get paid during Spring Training than that many of them live and eat “on campus”. If the camps close, even for a short while, they’re essentially stuck there with no food or shelter. Many would be financially burdened by traveling back home and THEN have to travel back to camp.
I’m sure some organizations are taking this into consideration; and equally sure that some aren’t.
My nephew is still in Arizona (he’s in the Angels system). He’s currently rehabbing so I guess he could go home and do it there as well. In a way for him and other injured players, this might be a mild blessing.
its not like they have no money to eat on. they have been getting paid and its a fair amount. i dont foresee, walking around arizona or florida looking at people holding up signs saying will play third base for food
Only ones on the 40-man roster get “paid…a fair amount.”
Exactly. No, minor leaguers don’t get paid during ST. Tho I admit a chuckle at the idea of some guy from A-ball walking around with the “Will play 3B for food” sign.
OTOH, if it’s around Oriole camp, they might take him up on it.
And how about a thought for Baseball Annie who provides “comfort” in Chicago for visiting players ; she likes Chicago because both leagues play there. Where is she going to get her money?
they just announced all players in camp if they choose to stay will continue to get a living allowance. and in major sports a living allowance is a livable amount
I like hearing when teams take care of their players during this. Providing allowance for them if they choose to stay is very fair for both sides – you’re available to work, you get paid.
hm I was expecting to see some trades pop off while they had time but this axes that.
It’s just good business for the owners to pony up and take care of their minor leaguers.
Some day they will be negotiating big contracts with many of them.
This whole situation sucks bigly. We’d have a lot more surety about duration and severity of the problem had they not screwed up the testing so badly.
That’s my point. They really don’t have to pay them (tho that would be nice), but keeping the camps open and providing the auxiliary services would likely help them out a lot.
The weird direction that these comments have gone in just go to show that civilization would crumble without baseball.
@mattcubs I’m sorry but your response demonstrates a lack of understanding about what it means to have a cycling virus. The spread cannot be stopped. The only thing that can be stopped is panic and economic loss
You would not think one would be so motivated to utilize a Russian bot on the MLBTR site. But the multiple times that the same comment beisbolista’s toward mattcubs has been posted, along with his blatant lack of sound logic, and the blatant attempt to create more entropy make it seem that beisbolista is a Russian bot/troll.
I just hope it doesn’t get rapidly worse and it costs us the whole season!
Was looking forward to the “free team themed paper mask give away night” promotion at the ballpark.
Sanitizer Sunday, Respirator Monday, Test Kit Tuesday, Wheezing Wednesday…
Were is Bill Veeck when we really need him?
Please don’t propagate ignorance. The reality is masks are designed for the sick to wear to stop the spread. A healthy individual wearing a medical mask does nothing to stop them from contracting diseases and depletes the supply from those who need it.
they just announced all players in camp if they choose to stay will continue to get a living allowance. and in major sports a living allowance is a livable amount
As I am not a professional baseball player, I can only guess what I would do in this situation, but I am pretty sure I would stay in the Spring Training facilities. They have already taken steps to protect the players and staff, and staying put makes for a much smaller chance of the players encountering the virus while traveling plus it saves on money.
MIKE PAUL
Not as much as you may think. Section C(2) deals with those living away from ST HQ
ARTICLE VII—Expenses and Expense Allowances
C(1)”During the 2017 Spring Training season, each Player shall
receive a base weekly allowance of $320.50, and each Player living
away from the Club’s Spring Training headquarters also shall
receive a base supplemental weekly allowance of $57.00. During
the 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021 seasons, the weekly and supplemental
allowances shall be the prior season’s allowance plus the cost of
living adjustment rounded to the nearest $.50. Notwithstanding the
foregoing, the weekly allowance will not be reduced below $320.50, and the supplemental allowance will not be reduced below $57.00 during the term of the Basic Agreement.”
C(3)All players who are assigned to a Major League Spring
Training camp shall receive the allowances set forth in Section C(1)
and (2) above, except that any non-roster players assigned to a
Major League Spring Training camp shall receive the allowances
only if they have Major League service at or above the prior season’s
cut-off for obtaining salary arbitration eligibility as a “Super Two.” (See Article VI(E)(1).) All players who are not assigned to a Major League Spring Training camp, but who are in uniform for a Major League Spring Training game, shall receive the daily allowance set forth in Section C(2) above for each such game.
mlbplayers.com/cba
We will be SO lucky to get in a 50-80 game season this year, including doubleheaders, even if the playoffs go into December. What an absolute joke anyone is who thinks otherwise.
I think otherwise. Strike Fourtnite’s post is a perfect example of someone who values ONLY her opinion, yet doesnt understand that no one else in the world takes her opinions seriously.
The season is not going into December
162 is almost impossible. Even if they played 7 days/week, they’d have to start on April 19 to finish Oct 4 (without an ASB). And that eliminates off days after travel from west to East.
They should do contingency plans for 134 starting around May 1, 110 starting June 1, and 80 starting July 3rd.
After that, scrap it.
15 games vs each division rival. (60)
6 games vs rest of (nl or al)league (60)
4 gms vs each tm in 1 div of other league (20). That’s 140 games. Schedule a couple double headers. Push all star game to end of season. Of course, this could only work if they started the first week of May, which is probably unlikely.
Schedule more doubleheaders. Simple as that. Double headers on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Saturday is a single game for everyone. On Tuesday, 7 games are played and Sunday 8 games are played. Thursday becomes a travel day off for everyone. So each team gets two days off every week. That will still allow for 8 games a week. You can fit in 162 games in 20 weeks easily that way.
Depending on the number of missed games, and it won’t be so easy to schedule double-headers with teams outside of a division. Unless you are talking about completely overhauling the schedule.
You just about have to completely overhaul it at this point. Logistically, it could raise some issues, but no more than a regular schedule. They have a month to do fix it. The only really big problem I could see would be rainouts, but since we are missing April altogether, there won’t be as many rainouts to deal with.
As far as travel goes, that’s why I said Thursday should be a travel day. We are in 2020, it only takes 3+ hours to go from any big league city to another one. This is not like Joe DiMaggio having to take a train from New York to St. Louis.
Better expand roster sizes cause no way a team is going to want to push their starting 5 and bullpens to those extreme levels.
But it’s not extreme at all. It’s actually more days off per week than usual. If players don’t want to do it, then they can walk away from the game. There are plenty of minor leaguers willing to do it for their salaries. I’m tired of teams babying players. Teams used to play DHs all the time with only about a 20 man roster. And people still survived somehow. With 13 pitchers on a roster, plus AAA guys ready at a moment’s notice, there is ZERO reason why teams couldn’t play 8 games a week.
It’s times like these that make me wish I could afford a tv and a PlayStation at least some baseball could happen
tv-costco. ps4-ebay.
JMHO, but I think we’ll be lucky if we see baseball by June. This virus ain’t going away no matter how many people we test. Sure, we can hopefully curtail it spreading more than it might have, but without a cure/vaccine, it’s still gonna adversely affect us.
We might not quarantine ourselves in our homes, but we’re all gonna be a lot more wary about the things we used to do and/or took for granted. . To wit, would you take your kids or grand kids to a baseball game right now?
Double headers? Eliminate interleague games? More spring training? Why can’t these teams still be playing against themselves in their own split squad games? Listen, in 2 weeks, this virus is still going to exist. As soon as people get back on planes it’s going to spread again. There might not be a vaccine for this until December, so does the USA shut down until there is one?
As soon as the severity of this virus was known, all traffic leaving from the effected areas should have been halted immediately. No flights out and ships been made to turn around. This crap got here on people who got off of airplanes.
I know for a fact that the shuttles from the northeast to Florida do NOT clean anything between flights. People on, people off, people on, people off all day long. Had the USA, Canada and Mexico banned all incoming international travel and shipments, we wouldn’t have a single case. It’s too late now and this thing is going to be with us until there is a vaccine no matter what we cancel.