Jan. 5: Some details on the breakdown are provided by Jon Heyman of The New York Post. Soderstrom gets a $3MM signing bonus and $1MM salary in 2026. His salary then jumps to $6MM, $10MM, $12MM, $16MM, $17MM and $19MM in the subsequent seasons. The 2033 club option is worth $27MM with a $2MM buyout. His 2032 and 2033 salaries can jump by $1MM or $2MM based on MVP finishing, though specifics of those escalators haven’t been reported. There should also be further escalators, considering Passan’s reporting that the deal can max out at $131MM. Soderstrom also gets some limited no-trade protection for 2032 and 2033, though details are also unreported in that department.
Dec. 29: The Athletics have formally announced the extension.
Dec. 25: The Athletics aren’t taking the holiday off. They’re in agreement with outfielder Tyler Soderstrom on a seven-year, $86MM extension, reports Jeff Passan of ESPN. Passan adds that there’s a club option for 2033 and escalators that could push the contract value by another $45MM if the option is exercised. The deal buys out at least three free agent years and potentially a fourth, keeping him under club control through his age-31 season. Soderstrom is represented by Paragon Sports International.
Soderstrom becomes the latest core offensive piece whom the A’s lock up on a long-term deal. They extended Brent Rooker and Lawrence Butler on respective $60MM and $65.5MM guarantees last winter. Soderstrom tops those by a decent margin, becoming the largest contract in club history in the process. Their three-year, $67MM free agent deal with Luis Severino had previously been that high-water mark.
[Related: Largest Contract in Franchise History for Each MLB Team]
The lefty-hitting Soderstrom was a first-round pick in 2020. He’d been an excellent offensive player dating back to high school. The biggest question was where he’d fit on the other side of the ball. While Soderstrom was drafted as a catcher, most scouts felt he’d need to move off the position. That has essentially been borne out, as his only 15 MLB starts behind the dish came during his 2023 rookie season. The fallback for poor defensive catchers is generally first base, and that’s indeed where Soderstrom spent the early part of his big league tenure.
Soderstrom struggled over a 45-game sample as a rookie. His .233/.315/.429 slash across 213 plate appearances in 2024 was a significant step forward but hadn’t yet put him alongside Rooker, Butler and Shea Langeliers as clear members of the A’s core. Soderstrom entered this year with a little pressure in the form of 2024 fourth overall pick Nick Kurtz, a college first baseman who was expected to hit his way to the majors very quickly.
While Kurtz would do just that, Soderstrom’s breakout ’25 campaign ensured the A’s couldn’t afford to take him out of the lineup either. The 24-year-old was one of the league’s best hitters in the first few weeks of the season. He connected on nine home runs with a .284/.349/.560 slash before the end of April. Soderstrom was tied for fourth in MLB (behind only Aaron Judge, Cal Raleigh and Eugenio Suárez) in homers through the season’s first month. By the time Kurtz forced his way to the majors on April 21, Soderstrom was locked into the middle of Mark Kotsay’s batting order.
That presented the A’s with a positional dilemma. Rooker is an everyday designated hitter. The 6’5″, 240-pound Kurtz wasn’t going to be able to play anywhere other than first base. Despite his catching/first base background, Soderstrom is a solid athlete and average runner. The A’s threw him into left field on the fly even though he’d had no professional experience there. They presumably expected to live with some defensive growing pains to keep his bat in the lineup.
Soderstrom dramatically exceeded those expectations. He graded 10 runs better than an average left fielder by measure of Defensive Runs Saved. Statcast graded his range five plays above average. Soderstrom ended the season as a Gold Glove finalist at a position he’d never played five months earlier. He joins Butler as core outfield pieces, ideally in a corner tandem flanking defensive specialist Denzel Clarke in center.
The increased defensive responsibility didn’t impact Soderstrom’s rhythm at the plate. He scuffled between May and June but rebounded with a .305/.359/.530 showing over the season’s final four months. Soderstrom finished with an overall .276/.346/.474 batting line while ranking fourth on the team with 25 homers. He improved his contact rate by six percentage points and held his own against same-handed pitching (.270/.315/.423) while teeing off on righties (.278/.356/.491). The breakout also wasn’t a product of the A’s playing half their games at the hitter-friendly Sutter Heath Park. Soderstrom had an OPS north of .800 both at home and on the road.
As recently as this past summer, there was speculation about the A’s potentially swapping Soderstrom for a controllable starting pitcher. The extension firmly takes that off the table and ensures he’ll remain alongside Kurtz, Rooker, Butler and Jacob Wilson in an excellent offensive corps. The first three are signed through at least 2029. Kurtz and Wilson are under team control for five seasons. Langeliers has another two seasons of arbitration eligibility.
Soderstrom was already under club control for four seasons. He was a year closer to free agency than Butler was at the time of his extension, which explains why the price was a little more than $20MM higher. Soderstrom tops the $57.5MM guarantee which Royals third baseman Maikel Garcia received in the same service class, but that deal only extended K.C.’s control window by two seasons.
The A’s backloaded the Rooker and Butler extensions, with the highest salaries corresponding to their planned move to Las Vegas in 2028. The salary breakdown on Soderstrom’s deal hasn’t yet been reported. The A’s had a projected payroll around $87MM before today, as calculated by RosterResource. That’s $12MM above where they opened the ’25 season. General manager David Forst told MLB.com’s Martín Gallegos last week that the team was looking to upgrade a rotation that ranked 27th in ERA and 25th in strikeout percentage.
Image courtesy of Charles LeClaire, Imagn Images.


Merry Christmas 🎄
Outstanding!
Go, Sacramento A’s!
West Sac!
Ah, perhaps you are a NFL fan of the Santa Clara 49ers and the Inglewood Rams?
New Jersey Giants! Arlington Cowboys! Paradise Raiders! Landover Commanders! Orchard Park Bills!
Go Miami Gardens Dolphins!
Gawd bless Tyler and rock on Vegas A’s!! First-place is within view and thank you and happy holidays to all the paying MLBTR subscribers! You are AWWesome and you truly make life worth living.. You are what’s great about America. And to the freeloaders, you will die of suffocation…..in the icy cold of space!
To quote Elsa, “The cold never bothered me anyway.”
I cheer for the los angeles angels of Anaheim
Oakland Yankees.
A’s have a bright future if they can get some pitching.
Sunny days ahead in Sacramento!
*West Sacramento
**For a couple years in *West Sacramento, then Vegas.
I don’t understand this Christmas Day action. They couldn’t have waited until the 26th to put ink to paper? Or did they have everything in place already and it was just a quick DocuSign?
Maybe he wanted to surprise his family
Maybe they were trying to one-up the Giants for signing a free agent on Thanksgiving day.
What difference does it make?
He wanted to receive his best Christmas present ever.
The A’s honouring Rickey Henderson by working on Christmas.
Time to update that earlier post about the biggest deal handed out by the A’s.
To me, this is the biggest ‘steal’ for the A’s.
To buy out that many of Soderstrom’s free agent years, is quite a deal for the organization. I’m really surprised that he wouldn’t have waited another year before putting a valuation on his abilities. I think he sold himself short.
or he’s a smart guy and realized he’s getting generational wealth regardless
Tell that to Matt McLain
I’d certainly rather have $86M now than even a 70% chance at quadrupling that in a few years when it could turn into nothing in a second with an injury.
See Triston Casas
It’s the nature of long-term investments. Some fail and some succeed.
Fine
Job
Friends
Good news, Kurtz will only want three times that.
Well he can ask for that in 5 years when he is actually a free agent. He could also be way less if he is bad in those years. Lots of rookie of the years wash into mediocrity before getting to free agency.
Yeah good luck with that , freeloader.
If Kurtz continues to play like he did this season, in 2 years he will get $12 million in his first season of arbitration. His 2nd about $18-20. His 3rd about $30. If they allow him to get to even the first one they will never be able to keep him. By 2028 the top FA may be making $50 million AAV.
Their only chance is to convince him to take a team friendly deal now. Maybe something along the lines the Padres paid Tatis.
I was expecting an extension but not this one..
Wow good for Tyler!
Gonna have to update that other article now. Merry Christmas all.
That’s a Merry Christmas to the A’s fans. If they can actually get some pitching, they would be a true playoff threat.
how do you feel about a slightly used Jose Berrios?
Honestly, I don’t hate it. I’d have more issues from Toronto’s side because I’m unsure what specifically they’d want from the A’s. I’m just too unfamiliar with the current state of the A’s farm system.
Wouldn’t be much more than salary relief. Berrios is owed $19MM this year and can either opt out or stay in for another 2/48.
Odds are he wouldn’t opt out unless he has a monster season. 2/48 would obviously be above market value if he stays.
Seems a bit pricey for a corner power bat tbh. Good for him though
I disagree
Yeah. Screw Aaron Judge
Reminds me of the extension the Braves signed Freddie Freeman to in 2013 and that worked out for them.
I’m sure I’m wrong, however, I felt the Braves were the first to really dive into this, as you mentioned Freeman, Acuna, Albies, and Harris II. Acuna would have been the best team friendly contract in history if he could stay healthy. shame too I really like watching him. Drake Baldwin is probably next up.
The 1990s Indians signed many of their young players.
I miss the days of all of the commies crying that we ripped poor, uneducated little Ozzie Albies off with the extension that he agreed to. Ineffectiveness from injuries are exactly why he signed that deal, he has been mostly good but it wasn’t like all the posters tried to paint it.
SBSD
“I miss the days of all of the commies crying that we ripped poor, uneducated little Ozzie Albies off”
Yeah
Don’t see much I’ll ever find useful coming from this poster
Muted
Lord I see what you do onto others
Yankees honoring the holiday by not making any MLB signings. Then again, the holiday has been going on since the end of the season.
A’s with some exciting offensive pieces.
once again Cashman thinking he’s the smartest guy in the room.
Cashman IS the smartest man in the room!
It’s a lonely, lonely world…..
And an empty room
Ok so now it’s official. White Sox ownership cheapest in baseball.
They’ve done more this winter than the Marlins and Rockies!
And the Cubs too
Rockies are under new management and leadership. Takes time to evaluate a dumpster fire.
Pirates and Marlins would want a word
Pirates have actually done things this winter tho
Jerry Reinsdorf has been cheap for awhile. John Fisher was cheap in Oakland so he could cry poor there.
JR is cheap for a completely different reason
Other than signing a washed up Cedrick Mullins, the Rays haven’t done anything, per the usual.
That’s because they’ve faded quite a bit over the last couple of years (I Wander whatever happened there), and are gearing up for another 3ish year rebuild. They’ll win 90+ games again in 2029.
A’s are still cheap this is just to avoid grievance and appease a new market whenever vegas is ready
Bingo
Gage Jump, Luis Morales and a few trades for some of those outfielders they have in the minors and the A’s will be good for a long time in Vegas
The “2028 World Series A’s” schtick got tiring, huh? Maybe work on getting rid of the Vegas thing now. As they won’t be good nor will they last there
But Giants fans told me moving to Vegas won’t change anything… merry Christmas boys!!!
Not all of us are that obtuse. Don’t lump us all together.
So I should have picked up his rookie card at that shoppe in Santa 🎅 Monica?
Seems like a great value for the A’s
The A’s are showing the O’s how to extend the tires, get it going ME
Have the A’s been extending Boras guys?
Does Samuel Basallo count for extending the young core?
Did the A’s draft and sign Boras guys? Should teams not be expected to extend their star young players because their agent is a tough negotiator? Is extending Basallo who is unproven a good idea?
So then, you are aware that signing the 4 best players on the Orioles means paying Boras prices, not A’s prices, and still want to do it, for a small market team huh?
As far as ‘proving it’, other than Gunnar, who’s proved it?
All seriousness though, please do have a Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays. I do hope they sign ’em all up…just not counting/expecting such. I’ll be pleasantly surprised if so.
A’s prepping for the future MLB stadium. Good for them.
Good for the *owner and the league, not good for the fans nor baseball
Yeah man paying a good player is sooo bad. You smug @ss Jankees fans need to stop inhaling your own farts. Cuts off oxygen to your brain cells.
Jarred
I think he means that because Fisher screwed Oakland he will not give him kudos for finally making some smart deals.
Fisher is an a33h0le, but I am A-ok with fans of Oakland, Sacramento or Las Vegas who enthusiastically root for the team regardless of the owner. Nothing wrong with Sacramento fans enjoying their team during 2025-2027.
I still believe that Fisher will sell on about four years when the penalty negotiated with the league for selling after moving is down to ten percent
I know what he meant. Point still stands.
@Jarred, did he edit the comment? cause I’m lost on how your reply has any context to it. Top 100 hopefully added clarity and hope we hear from you again soon after repairing that blood vessel.
Sacramento fans didn’t show up. You could buy a ticket for every game all season on game day. Most of the time for less than face value. Capacity at Sutter Health Park is 14014 and they averaged 9487.
Steinbrenner2728
not good for the fans nor baseball
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Yup. As a RS fan, if we trade for Skubal and extend him, I will be furious.
How about the Rays follow suit?
Well there goes my favorite trade target for the reds, good on them though the A’s are gonna be good for a while
And all I got were gift cards and sweaters that I’ll never wear 🙁
Hey at least you got something.
Get receipt or return label and exchange lol
Merry Xmas A’s … if you’re going to Las Vegas be sure to wear some flowers in your hair… be like the Vegas Knights not like my putrid Raiders
Being a Oakland/LosAngeles/Las Vegas Raiders fan shouldn’t excuse the fact you’re okay with Fisher following Al Davis’ son to Vegas for the money.
Nobody should be an Oakland A’s fan, because Oakland stole the A’s from Kansas City, which stole the A’s from Philadelphia. Only 100 year old Philadelphians have the right to be A’s fans.
Oakland stole the A’s from KC who stole them from Philly. Thats just who they are. In 60 years they will go to Colorado haha
I hear you … no fan of cheap fisher, nor Davis ,and the raiders deserve to stink.
Fisher following Al Davis’ son to Vegas for the money.
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The As had no fans in Oakland. No business in the world stays open if no one buys their product.
not like my putrid Raiders
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We don’t know whether or not they’re putrid until after Sunday’s championship game. I’m hoping for a Crosby paper cut to keep him out two games.
Looks like he’s going to get cut on…
12 million a year for 7 years for a guy not even peaking yet and way better in the corner spot than expected……..I am good with this. Merry Christmas!
He might have peaked.
This is all relative. For a long time, Eric Chavez’s 2004 6 year/$66M extension was the largest contract they’d ever handed out and today that’d be for approximately $116M, or, in baseball terms, likely 6 years/$132M.
Just saying.
$66 is $66, not $116 or $132. Just saying.
RSH
Maybe accounting for context is a useful thing.
JUJH
Maybe actual numbers are what count when calculating highest paying contracts ever.
RSH
Again, maybe context is important.
It is, and that’s what I’m referring to. In context these statistics are not about what the dollar amounts might have been equivalent to in different decades or centuries, they are just factual pertaining to the actual dollar amounts received.
Maybe accounting for context is a useful thing.
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But that’s not how people refer to ‘all-time prices’ You would literally need to keep track of every big l/t contract in present value.
Since you are being obtuse about this, I am not abbreviating or using short hand for anything
$66 million dollars in 2004 is equal to $113.25 Million dollars in 2025.
Given how baseball salaries have exploded, Chavez would have likely demanded double that $11 Million average annual value salary in the 2025 Major League Baseball market.
$22 million multiplied by six years is $132 Million.
Therefore, I am saying that a contract signed in 2004 for $66 million dollars over six years would likely be $132 million over six years.
I am saying that in twenty one years, the Athletics have actually gotten much cheaper, even though they are technically breaking their own spending record and average annual value records relative to their history of contracts paid out to players from their organization.
Merry Christmas, you didactic so-and-so.
TTO
Ramos seems like they just want to argue. As such, they are about to be muted
JUJH When? And why would they care if you do that? Trying to rally people or something?
I’m not trying to argue, and I’m not resorting to personal insults. $66 million was the record. This breaks it. Those records simply refer to dollar amounts, not adjustments for inflation.
FWIW, I think I paid $16 for a beer at YS last year. That was the highest I ever paid for a beer.
I didn’t calculate the price per ounce.
I didn’t calculate inflation to the point of my $11 Heineken’s
I didn’t discount for the fact that Heineken was better.
Just IMHO, the number is the number.
$16 for a beer? I hope it had gold flakes in it.
Merry Christmas to everyone-the A’s are a team on the rise-they should move to Las Vegas
Focus on your Red Sox, Tardaddy.
Avoiding a grievance and sticking it to Oakland by spending in Sacramento.
John Fisher is very spiteful.
Fisher is just being smart. Y’all have no concept of small market teams and the need to rebuild.
Good for the A’s. Others should follow their example.
@This one belongs to the Reds I know you muted me, but being infamously cheap until screwing over a fanbase and city just so you can start spending is not the example other teams should follow.
now do Kurtz
Young player wants to stay in Purgatory forever. Good for him staying wants to play in Vegas
I think Kurtz is the type of player who’s gonna bet on himself through arbitration and then eventually free agency. Shouldn’t stop the A’s from building around him though.
Kurtz is already out of the A’s price range.
That’s an awesome Christmas present for A’s fans.
Too bad Fisher left most of them back at the old house.
They didn’t have to stop being A’s fans. Most A’s fans have never bought a ticket to an A’s game, so why not just root for them in a different city?
Less are buying tickets now. About the same will buy tickets in Las Vegas.
As long as the casino owners don’t succeed in killing tourism, a lot of tourists will buy tickets. I’ll certainly catch a RS game when I visit LV, assuming that a bottle of water no longer costs $15.
The casinos can’t help the team. They can’t buy advertising, or tickets, or suites because of Nevada gaming laws. If Fisher thought the gaming industry would draw people to his games he is in for a surprise. They couldn’t sell our Sutter Health Park and they won’t sell out in Las Vegas either.
According to Ticketmaster and the NFL, the Raiders are pulling the 2nd lowest percentage of out of state ticket buyers. If it’s not working for the Raiders who have a huge fan base in California, it won’t work for the A’s.
I will probably catch a game there as well, but most won’t.
That’s basically all I’m saying. I caught minor league games out there, and I think it was a better experience than a lot of pro games. If LV gets 3M tourists/month, and 10% go to a game, that’s 1.8M tickets.
They can’t buy advertising, or tickets, or suites because of Nevada gaming laws.
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Dumbest thing ever. When I go, I don’t expect free tickets. I don’t bring enough business. But what would be great is if my hotel had various season ticket plans that I could buy into.
Instead of buying tickets on-line, not getting good tickets, and paying a hefty fee, I’d like to see a pop-up asking “Would you like A’s tickets?”. Then I probably get better tickets, at a still reasonable price.
Really? At the Reno Aces stadium there’s advertising for the casinos.
If the A’s attract out of state fans at the <1% per month, about 2700 per game, that attend Raiders games, then you have numbers that are more realistic. Because of how much Fisher has alienated A's fans and how well NFL fans travel compared to MLB fans, I doubt they draw as well as the Raiders.
As long as the hotel you stay at is not connected to a company that also has a casino, you could get tickets from them. Not sure how many of those there are in Las Vegas. Any resort that has a casino or is owned by a casino cannot buy tickets.
Don’t worry. You will be able to get good tickets and I would be willing to bet (pun intended) at less than face value on game day through one of the many apps out there that specialize in that type of thing.
Greater Nevada Field does not have a single advertisement for a casino and neither do the Reno Aces. Not even digital ads on their website.
When I first read your comment I was not sure. I was going on what I had read about the A’s moving to Las Vegas. Instead of commenting before I was sure, I reached out to a friend with the Aces that I have known since he was with the NW Arkansas Naturals. He confirmed that they don’t have any casino advertisements. They did have one for the Reno-Sparks Convention and Visitors Authority and several hotel chains including Margaritaville Tahoe over the 13 years he has been with the Aces, but not a casino. He said if you had questions to reach out to AJ Grimm, their head of Marketing or Bryan, their head of corporate partnerships.
“The casinos can’t help the team. They can’t buy advertising, or tickets, or suites because of Nevada gaming laws”.
Completely false. Yes, casinos CAN advertise, and yes, casinos CAN buy season tickets. They’ve been buying season tickets for the Triple A team for decades.
Nevada gaming laws apply to any sport or team that casinos take action on. Even if the particular casino doesn’t, if the corporation that owns it does then they cannot buy sponsorships, tickets, or advertise with any team in that sport.
A casino may have bought tickets to AAA teams if no action is taken on AAA games, but I doubt it.
Someone named the Aces earlier, so I checked in with the team and they said no. I even gave contacts for them to reach out to.
After reading your comments I reached out to my friend with the the Aces and they do not have a single gaming related corporation that buys tickets directly. He said; “that does not stop them from buying through 3rd parties, but how many high rollers really ask for tickets to minor league games?”
I would be willing to bet, pun intended, that the Aviators are no different. I will do my due diligence and reach out to their FO on Monday to find out what they say.
Skip’s Fungo
Nevada gaming laws apply to any sport or team that casinos take action on.
………..He said; “that does not stop them from buying through 3rd parties,
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My first suggestion would be to stop taking action on A’s games. That might be an issue for sports-focused casinos, but less of a problem for casinos that are focused on whales and casino gambling.
My second suggestion would be to have the Athletics create custom season ticket packages. I think every team does this for Sunday, Saturday, etc. They could rig it that the Bellagio would buy packages only for LAD and NYY games, to satisfy their Japanese customers.
My 3rd suggestion, which I will suggest to my favorite casino, is to employ a front man, as the 3rd party. I’ll buy whatever season ticket packages they want, use the points for my annual LV trip, and my cut for all my hard work will a couple of RS tickets once or twice a year.
It wouldn’t be just the A’s, it would have to be on baseball as a whole. Far too much money for any casino owning corporation to do that. Easier just not to buy tickets or sponsorships for baseball teams. Unless you are betting hundreds of millions once or twice a year, you are not enough of a whale to take a chance of losing a gaming license for.
Congratulations. This is the dumbest thing on the internet. How proud your friends and family must be of your ignorance.
Soderstrom faded as the season wore on. I’m very interested to see what kind of player he turns out to be.
Either way a nice Christmas gift for the kid.
He’s 23 so not quite at peak yet. Still a very good player even if he’s a 5 month guy and not a full 6 month guy.
Salzila did the kid fade as the season wore on? The kid slashed .305/.359/.530 for 143 WRC+. It doesn’t look like he faded to me it looks like just as the article said he scuffled in May and June but finished strong. You couple that kind of production with the surprising defense that should only get better with more experience in left looks like a really solid performer moving forward. Pretty decent statcast page for the 23 year old looks like a good extension for the A’s.
If youre only reading stats it doesn’t tell the full story. I had him in fantasy last season and he was hard to hold onto after awhile. He started white hot, but was very, very streaky the rest of the way. Very frustrating. I’d love hear the perspective of an A’s fan to that as owning him in fantasy obviously takes a backseat to someone watching every day.
Funny because I just checked his splits on fangraphs. He was actually better in the second half than he was in the first half.
Salzilla
Soderstrom, Kurtz, Rooker all pass the eye test.
Wilson, Shea and Butler as well.
De Vries on the way.
Soderstrom hit for a 0.328 batting average over the last two months and his OPS was over 0.900. He looked good. Sacramento A’s may have a 2026 batting lineup that is in the top six or seven in MLB.
Just don’t ask about the starting pitching after Severino and Sprongs
What is the full story?
Butler absolutely seemed like a horror show last season.
Butler had a bad August but bounced back I. September. He has the least exciting bat of the core group, and his home-away splits are worrisome.
Salzilla
I had him in fantasy last season and he was hard to hold onto after awhile.
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He was aided by a healthy BABIP, but he had a .945 OPS in August and a .885 in September. My fantasy teams would still be playing if I had that level of production.
Day to day he was very inconsistent.
Soderstrom was great early, but inconsistent later on. In head to head he was just too erratic to be a major help.
As for Butler, in one league his owner traded him to me for a middle reliever lol. I thought i was making out, but that proved wrong.
I’m not saying either are bad btw or not worthy of the A’s investment, but calling it as someone that had to follow them last season directly. That’s why I’m curious to see how they turn out.
Day to day he was very inconsistent.
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BR lists the final 7, final 14 and final 28, and they were .919, .815, and .878. In a world where you can hit the ball well, and still go 0-8, that’s pretty consistent.
Butler was rough for me. Other guys valued him, so I didn’t get him in every league, but I had him a few times. He wasn’t awful, but I thought he was going to be a 30/30 guy.
No one watched them everyday. Attendance fell. TV viewership dropped through the floor.
“for the last 3 months of the season”
Octavian is gonna be devastated
Was I that obvious?
Only slightly more than me
Looks like a massive bargain if he’s for real. Don’t see why not but stranger things have happened. He learned the outfield on the fly and became great there and the bat has always been good. Happy for A’s fans.
If m not wrong,Now mlbtr can update the As biggest contract on the other thread which was Soriano ,right?
Ha! They were way ahead of me,Like most people.
Congrats to Tyler for getting his bag on Christmas. Kurtz should be next, but he’s going to cost more.
This could escalate to $131,000,000? Not bad, get that payday Soderstrom
As a Nats fan, it *really* hurts when it’s pretty clear both the A’s and Pirates care more about winning than your team. #SelltheTeam
Different phase in the rebuild. But there is no reason to not extend the kids.
Why does the extension firmly take the idea of a trade for controllable pitching off the table?
I think it makes a potential trade return even more lucrative with the receiving team acquiring long term stability and control while the A’s get a better return.
I could see some trade in the works. Their corner outfielders are locked in long term deals. They have several flawed but semi interesting infielders who are impacted by McNeil trade. And desperately need pitching. At least another dependable SP and one or two high leverage relievers
A’s have pitching coming up soon that they won’t need to trade from the core. Does not make sense to that with their window opening.
Not a guarantee they will all stick though. But if they move into a real park, that should help.
True that, but the same can be said about any pitcher regardless how they are obtained. Even the veterans may struggle (E.g. Sevy).
The reality is that almost all prospects never become very good. I read on Baseball America that 97% of the players listed on their Top prospects list for each team never put up a 2.0 WAR in the majors. 2.0 WAR is average. I would be willing to place a bet that its the same for the MLB Pipeline top 30 lists as well. Counting on any prospect is not smart. counting on all of them making it and having an impact on the major league team is stupid and even the A’s are not stupid.
Of course a ton will flame out in a top 30. A lot you don’t even have expectations for and are just organizational filler. However, the vast majority of their top overall, 1-10 prospects each season, seem to turn out very well. A team can hold onto prospects for too long, sure, but it’s up to them to trade the ones they don’t see as a fit on their club instead of just having a glut of players at the same position with no plan who just rot away in value.
Of the BA top 100 prospects or about 3.3 per team, the article said that 3% reach 4.0 WAR at least once in their career and <20% reach MLB average. Even among players that were #1 overall, <50% reached MLB average. Almost all prospects you see on those top 30 lists are organizational filler to use your term.
Please don’t get me wrong. Many of those players that never reach the 2.0 WAR level become decent relief pitchers or players that are useful at the MLB level, they are just not good players. I define good as MLB average or better.
To me that would indicate that the best use of all but a few prospects each year is in trade for players that have already shown they can play at an MLB average or higher level and that have at least 2 years of team control.
If you’re talking about trading Soderstrom, that ship has sailed once the extension was signed. He’s a core player.
Once he is signed he has a set cost. It makes him more tradable.
Why would they trade soderstrom when the A’s window in opening? Wouldn’t that just put them back in the rebuild they seem to be getting out of?
Sure, maybe in a few years they’ll probably reassess, but right now he’s only 24 and the A’s are climbing. Once the pitching staff catches up they’re contending.
The annual costs go up and Fisher won’t let that happen beyond a certain point. He will allow payroll to go up just enough not to lose his revenue sharing. When it reaches that point he will scale back until the MLBPA files against him again. Winning is not a consideration for him. Only how much money he can pocket. In this case, past is prologue.
by your logic, keeping sode and the other guys will still be cheap.
His contract is heavily backloaded, so he will get more expensive and thus less likely to stay with the A’s each year.
A’s have no choice but to spend. Every year payroll will need to increase to maintain revenue sharing status. Who knows, things could also change in the next player lockout.
Branch it’s just an old saying/idea that trading away a player you recently extended is a bad look and might make other players less likely to sign.
a trade can happen for sure, but I think this article was trying to say that any rumors of trades this offseason or soon are pretty much off the table. Of course a trade could happen in four years or beyond, but doesn’t look like it now. A’s window is opening again and does not make sense to trade Sody. Let the bro cook with the A’s.
Essentially giving up on extending Kurtz – oh the horror!
Missing the forest for the trees bigtime but they’re really close they just need to readjust their vision
Make it happen for 200 million
Nice job A’s! Mele Kalikimaka!
Man, I wish this were happening in Oakland…
Athletics have a strong young core. A talented defensive CF’er, stud SS that will stick there, and the AL ROY. Soderstrom, a converted Catcher, was excellent in the OF last year. Extra credit to the coach that worked with him during that transition. I’m not so sure they have the pitching to be competitive in 2026, but they’re lineup is one of the better, balanced lineups in the AL.
The A’s now have a good core of young ball players in ready to contend in 2028 as their new ballpark opens in Las Vegas.
The A’s are almost there. They need to realize hey we have a behemoth brand in Kurtz waiting to explode and change this dead franchise that literally wants to kill each other. Stop these bs splurges like severino just to say ooh look at me. Missing the forest for the trees. You pay Kurtz. Big money. Then you build around him. There’s clear leadership and presence and everything else falls into place. And you’re about to head into Vegas. Time to make it happen A’s
You need to let kurtz go out and smash unhindered by anything. Let that man do that and minimize liabilities and distractions and then what do you think that’s gonna do to his self confidence his inner peace his fluidity and ability to handle scrutiny in Las Vegas? He doesn’t do it alone but respect will fall like dominoes in that clubhouse if you have a clear number one and implement the same strategy. A billion ish now spread across several players for what 15 years that can literally change the dna of this whole thing is a sound investment you ask me.
2028-2029 watch out. A’s are gonna be stacked. Especially with De Vries and the pitchers coming up.
From a Tiger fan’s perspective — Piper has been very envious of what the A’s have been able to construct with their lineup seemingly out of nowhere and altogether at once. If they lock up Kurtz and WIlson PIper would buy those regular season tickets…
Sean concurs
I know some people who went to same high school as Tyler.
Worthwhile to look through Oaklands first round picks. They consistently draft guys who basically become superstars. This last down period is in major part due to not being able to replace Olson and Chapman’s production with Austin Beck (2017) nor Kyler Murray (2018). Now they’re right back on track.
I don’t know much about him but I look forward to going to Las Vegas A’s games and seeing him play. I just wish I don’t have to wait til 2029 for the Cubs to play at the new A’s stadium.
I feel a little like I’ve been trapped in one long opposite day this off season. The Yankees aren’t spending any money, The Dodgers have been relatively tame, and the Pirates, A’s, and White Sox are all spending money. Even my Blue Jays are taking it to a much higher level than they usually do. It’s a good time to be a baseball fan.
The A’s just need average pitching to make a deep run in the playoffs, with the lineup they’ve put together.
They should just try n put together the best n nastiest pen they can right now.
Usually cheaper snd fill in rotation w guys who csn go 4/5 innings more often then not.
Far from ideal but may be best way to win.
Make there games exciting and its at least a formula to try n stay competitive
Small market teams should abandon the traditional 5 man rotation. Not enough quality to go around making them too expensive. Gotta be another way, openers or piggybacking idk but someone will try sooner or later
Good point. It probably will happen sooner rather than later. There are only so many SP’s left in the game and you definitely have to pay a premium to get/keep one.
Merry Christmas A’s fans; Fisher gives a real gift rather than just another membership to the jelly of the month club
A’s are building a solid core for when they open up in Vegas. Whoever the free agent pitchers are that year, they are going to cash in big time.
Or trade pieces. I think Skenes will be available around that time line with a year or two of control. Pending health, he’d draw a nice crowd to the stadium.
Great deal for the A’s
Smart move by FO. Tyler is now much more valuable should the A’s decide to move him in a trade.
Congrats to the A’s fans. This is good for them and good for baseball.
Save the congrats until after Fisher sells the majority stake
My guess is that Fisher won’t sell until after he wins the WS.
If he was that interested in winning the WS he had multiple rosters/years to go for it in Oakland but didn’t.
Fisher can’t sell for 3 years after moving to Las Vegas. Its a requirement in the agreement with the state and county.
He could sell now, but probably won’t since he had to finance most of the new stadium personally and once its complete won’t own it.
I was incorrect. When I looked into it, he can sell, he would just have to pay MLB 20% of whatever was paid for the team. After that, if he sells before 2034 he will have to pay MLB 10% of the sales price. IMHO that is to make up for MLB forgoing the fee to move the team.
I was partially incorrect. My opinion on the moving fee was incorrect. If he sells prior to the new ballpark opening he has to pay the moving fee plus 20% of the sales price. If he sells prior to 2034 he has to pay the moving fee plus 10% of the sales price.
Wouldn’t it be fascinating to see Seattle and Oakland as 1-2 in the West?
would love to see a world series game in west sacramento. this team has a major league (the movie) vibe
Completely off topic, but you should have seen the Las Vegas Aviators player worn jersey auction a few weeks ago. They have a lot of different style jerseys (driven by merchandise sales, I suspect). There were 5 different Nick Kurtz jerseys up for auction. The bidding was intense. Four of the jerseys sold for prices in the mid-$3,000s. One sold for more than $5,000. A good day for the Aviators’ charity which gets the proceeds.
I found it incredibly interesting that the Howard Hughes Corporation, the company that owns the Aviators and the stadium they play in, would not allow the A’s to play there. Shut them down when they asked. It might have had to do with Fisher not wanting to pay any rent or for the required upgrades to make the stadium MLB-ready. Or maybe they were just ticked off that Fisher was moving a team into their market. Either way, they told him to pound sand.
Fisher also wanted to stay in Northern California region to continue to collect cable tv money
His 1st choice was Las Vegas in the Aviators ballpark. When he was shutdown there he went to Reno and asked to play there. He was again shutdown. Then he asked the Coliseum Authority to play there until the ballpark in Las Vegas is complete. They said sure, for $17 million per season and him making the repairs he had previously agreed to but reneged on.
Then he went to Sacramento and asked his friend to let his team play there. Everything Fisher does turns into a fiasco.
Where on earth did you get that idea? Not only did the Hughes Corporation and the Aviators NOT refuse to allow the A’s to play in Las Vegas Ballpark, but they actually had a signed agreement to allow the Athletics to play there, long before the A’s decided to play in Sacramento. The Aviators, WHO ARE THE ATHLETICS TRIPLE A TEAM never told Fisher to pound sand. What they told him is that they were perfectly willing to make any and all required upgrades to prepare the ballpark for major league play. Source: Don Logan, Aviators President and COO.
The Aviators are not owned by the A’s, they are an independent team that operates as the location the AAA A’s play in and have a 10 year affiliation contract that started in 2019. The A’s can’t just pick up and move the Aviators just because they refused to allow the A’s to play there.
I got part of my comment from an article in the Nevada Independent. The same source as you claim to have used, comments by Don Logan. He said only that “that the major league team needs to lean on its minor league affiliate to help gain awareness of the Las Vegas market”, not that they were willing to allow the A’s to play in the stadium.
Logan also had said back in 2021 that possibly the Aviators could move into an East Bay facility in California, possibly San Jose or Pleasanton, until a ballpark was completed in Las Vegas, but said that the Aviators “new ballpark, however, was not built to be expanded to be an MLB park.” That idea of a move to California for 3 years was quickly shut down by the owners of the Aviators and their newly opened ballpark.
Seaport Entertainment, the corporation that Howard Hughes spun the Aviators and the stadium off into, said that they were not willing to foot the bill for any required upgrades. Anton Nikodemus, who was CEO at that time, said in an interview with the Sports Business Journal that they still carried debt from opening the $150 million Las Vegas Ballpark and were not willing to take on further debt for the upgrades necessary for the A’s to play there for 2-3 seasons. That the A’s would have to pay for any upgrades that MLB and the MLBPA required. That making those improvements would not increase their revenue after the A’s left and because of that would be a bad investment.
There are a large number of other articles about it including from LB Sports Biz and the Las Vegas Review Journal, but they all say the same thing so no need to repeat the comments. .
Sorry, but you are completely wrong. Going with the Indy was your forst mistake. Don Logan has publicly and explicitly stated in two dozen public interviews that the Aviators and the A’s HAVE A FORMAL WRITTEN AGREEMENT allowing the A’s to SHARE the LV Ballpark so that the A’s could play there while the stadium is being built. Nobody, anywhere, anytime, has said that he Aviators would have to move to make that happen. And amazingly enough, the comments that the A’s would have to pay for the upgrades is EXACTLY what the Aviators and A’s agreed on. They proceeded to identify exactly what the upgrades would be. However, Fisher decided to go to Sacramento in order to keep the TV revenue.
I cannot find a single one of those interviews where he said anything close to what you are claiming. I don’t believe they exist. If there was a signed agreement, they would be playing there now. Instead, they are in West Sacramento for the next 2+ seasons.
This site won’t allow me to post links without getting a “Your Comment is Awaiting Moderation” that never happens, so I posted the publications and quotes from the articles. I also told you other publications in which you can find the same type of quotes from your own source and others involved in the situation.
I can also post quotes from interviews where the A’s President at the time said that the A’s were not willing to pay for upgrades anywhere. It is once of the reasons why they chose Sacramento. Vivek Ranadivé decided he would do the upgrades and charge the A’s no rent. BIG mistake on his part, but billionaires can do that. Posting the publications and quotes would take time I am not willing to spend since I have shown that you are wrong on every point.
You are making claims but have done none of that. Until you can come up with more than claims, just shut it.
Aw, little fellow, you’re so cute when you pretend to be “all grown up”. If you can’t find any interviews where Don Logan talked about the Aviators agreement with the A’s, then you should ask a grownup how to do a web search. You haven’t shown that I’m wrong on a single point. Nice try, though, little man. The reality is that not only can the casinos help a sports team, they already have in a huge way. You’re an outsider without a clue how anything works, so let me give you a prime example. Not only can casinos “help” the Aviators, but they actually paid for the construction of the Las Vegas Ballpark. How? The LVCVA paid $10,000,000 for the naming rights to the park. Who funds the LVCVA? The casinos fund a huge chunk of it/ Who sits on the Board? Aside from the requisite politicians, the current Board members include representatives from Caesars, Boyd Gaming, and the Wynn Corporation. And who was a major driving force behind getting state funding for the A’s new stadium? The casinos. Who was a driving force in finalizing all of the required agreements between the A’s and the Stadium Authority? The LVCVA and the casinos. And who sits on the Board of the Las Vegas Stadium Authority? Representatives from Caesars and MGM. Duhhhh. So until you grow up and get over your childish emotional need to invent negative narratives, just shut it.
“We have an agreement with the Aviators with Don [Logan] and Howard Hughes [Corporation] to play at their stadium temporarily. We’re really deferring to Major League Baseball to kind of help us make that decision.”
-Dave Kaval, April 20, 2023 to KLAS
” Should the A’s play in Las Vegas Ballpark until a new venue is built, (Don) Logan said that the Aviators “wouldn’t need to find a temporary home elsewhere.” He said that he believed “both teams would be able to share the stadium until the new ballpark is ready”
– Las Vegas Sun April 21, 2023.
“A’s president Dave Kaval has reiterated both points:[2]
1) “It’s going to be like the Golden Knights and the Silver Knights. Having two teams in town at the same time. It’s going to be great for player development.”
2) “We have an agreement with the Aviators with Don [Aviators President Don Logan] and Howard Hughes [Corporation] to play at their stadium temporarily. We’re really deferring to Major League Baseball to kind of help us make that decision.””
-Baseball Reference
You’re really bad at web searches, little man.
I don’t believe Dave Kaval when the the Howard Hughes Company CEO said that was not true.
NONE of those are quotes from Don Logan who you claimed was who said it. His quotes say the opposite.
So YOU can’t find any Don Logan quotes either.
Building a Vegas franchise.
Awesome
Not gonna lie…as a general baseball fan, I really love this.
I look forward to winning a lot of one run games after scoring in the double digits.
Everytime there’s an update it bumps to the top but I agree with your sentiment. Its excessive.
You’ll be ok i think
When a signing or extension or trade is agreed to it’s news/newsworthy. When such events become official (typically after physicals are completed &/or the league signs off) the said event becomes news/newsworthy again.
I mean if that’s what butters your bread.
It has nothing to do with butter or bread.Whether we like it or not is irrelevant. It’s plain & simply factual.
Guess Billy and his portlie assistant solved David’s coke machine conundrum. Still have to pay for cans of cola, but don’t you fret. Soder stream on the house, next seven years gratis!
Good move by Oakland extending their youn players, my Orioles should have done the same thing last year with their young talent, they still have time to do so, the only Oriole extended is Basalli IMO
This is a love letter to baseball. Bravo.
That picture they have of him in the article looks like he’s had enough already. 7 more years, though?