The deadline for accepting the qualifying offer has come and gone, with two players (the Mets’ Marcus Stroman and the Giants’ Kevin Gausman) opting to accept the one-year, $18.9MM deal from their most recent team. That leaves four other players in this year’s QO class, all of whom rejected the one-year offer — Trevor Bauer, J.T. Realmuto, George Springer, and DJ LeMahieu.
There was some debate over whether or not Stroman or Gausman would even receive a qualifying offer, so it perhaps isn’t surprising that the two hurlers each chose to accept rather than test the open market. For the other four, however, there was no doubt that each would receive and reject the QO since more lucrative, longer-term offers surely await in free agency. Bauer, Realmuto, Springer, and LeMahieu take up four of the top five places on MLBTR’s list of the offseason’s top 50 free agents, with only Marcell Ozuna — who was ineligible for another qualifying offer after being issued one last winter — interceding in the #4 spot.
Now that the QO detail has been settled, the question is which of the quartet will be the first to land that lucrative, long-term contract? (And, it should be noted that “long-term” may not necessarily be the case in regards to Bauer.) All of the financial uncertainty of the 2020-21 offseason might not necessarily impact these top-tier free agents in terms of overall earning potential, though the ripple effects of other signings elsewhere in the market could impact when exactly these big four stars sign their next contract.
For instance, there is some thought around baseball that this will be another slow winter for offseason activity, as the strained payrolls throughout the sport will make teams even more wary about making big free agent investments. A large group of new free agents is expected to flood the market by the December 2 non-tender deadline, so teams might wait until that date to make any sort of significant move so they can assess all of their options. A team in need of catching, for example, could hold off on making an offer to Realmuto until they know whether or not the Yankees could actually non-tender Gary Sanchez.
But this poll isn’t asking who the last to sign will be, it’s who will be the first. As mentioned, Bauer/Realmuto/Springer/LeMahieu could be shielded in many respects from the crunch that other free agents are likely to face, and could get a lot of early attention from teams looking to make their offseason as simple as possible. In the case of the Yankees and LeMahieu, a relatively quick re-signing would allow New York to check off one big box, and then figure out how to address other needs with what resources remain (if the Yankees are indeed trying to get under the $210MM luxury tax threshold).
With so much up in the air about the 2021 season, there’s a case to be made that any of these free agents would prefer to get a new contract locked up soon, so they can fully focus on getting ready for whatever challenges 2021 may bring. If we reach March and there’s still question as to whether or not the pandemic will allow Opening Day to proceed as scheduled, or if the 2021 season will still be 162 games or not, no player would want the added uncertainty of still not knowing where they’ll be playing whenever Opening Day does occur.
Cast your vote, which of the Qualifying Offer Four will be the first to land their new contract? (Poll link for app users)
DarkSide830
i have a feeling Bauer and JT will have the most competitive markets, but Bauer will want to wait to sign so JT will go first.
deweybelongsinthehall
Obviously no one knows but my guess is DJLM will have the hottest market and sign first. I really believe he’ll end up resigning with the Yankees but will first have other teams set his value. I’m not convinced Bauer will sign for one year and think DJLM’s deal will be the shortest which will play a part in him signing first.
GASoxFan
A couple reasons I agree about JT –
1) there’s going to be a lot less FA $ out there this offseason. You wait too long, then teams may pull their offers having spent elsewhere.
2) DJ is going into his age 33 season, which raises red flags especially after only having managed elite numbers in the Bronx for one years plus the shortened season. This is probably a final contract if it doesn’t line up as a pillow deal to get around the QO.
3) Bauer is a wildcard. He sets his own value. BUT he has recently walked back his mercenary year-to-year stance signalling he would consider a long(er) term pact. He may hold out there more to see what’s around. He also knows he’s the premier arm without much competition.
4) Teams looking at springer generally also seem to be looking at other guys to fill what they want from him. He hasnt stood out as an “I need him or…. what else could I do, nothing???” Sort of guy. Then there’s the harmony in the clubhouse consideration and his whole unapologetic cheating astro issue.
JT’s market is fairly defined. It’s probably not an offseason to haggle over the extra 5m or so over the length of the deal. He doesn’t have boras. If you need him, and don’t get JT, your options become very limited which should drive bidding quickly. Finally, even with a 5 yf deal, if the hit tool stays he could become a dh and get a sunset deal
stymeedone
@GASox
I like your rationale. I also see a need on most teams for an upgrade at catcher, but also see few willing to pay this price, this year. This position would be my first priority, and due to shortage at the position, I would want to get the deal done quickly.
zacharydmanprin
Bauer also has some baggage with his personality and social media presence. Some teams, even if they can afford him, are not willing to take that on.
Joggin’George
Springer is a bit old for the big, long term contract he seeks… he’ll potentially decline sooner rather than later. The bat declines, he has to move off CF (which playing CF is part of his value)…. that’ll hurt his market. It’s why I don’t want the Mets to sign him. A lot of players tend to decline fast once they hit the other side of 30.
hockeynick97
Are any of them represented by Boras? If so, put them to the bottom of the list of being signed first
Aaron Sapoznik
No.
hockeynick97
I guess none of them are so it is definitely a very legit poll
deweybelongsinthehall
Even if they were, Boras’ past methods may not matter this year.
hockeynick97
Fair point
Hosmer for HOF
Springer should go first somewhere imo but remember these guys wait through January and even into the start of spring training camp in early February letting their value marinate. I imagine like Machado he’s the most worthwhile for his clear five tool value, history of production, and potential future production. He’s probably the only one who gets offered a contract longer than 5 years for more money than the others so what’s not for him to jump at? My guess in order of who’s signed with virus setting back teams budget..
1) Springer: six years $165M
Lemahieu: four years $90M
Realmuto: five years $120M
Bauer: one year $25M and maybe some weird player or club options that could be triggered plus the weirdest incentives lol
GP John
That much for Springer? I was also thinking probably 4 years. Didn’t think anyone would get a 6 year deal unless Bauer was willing to sign for a long term deal. I with you on DJ but I think Realmuto will do a little better. They speak of him as if he’s the be all to end all of catchers so I thought he’d be the one who receive the highest per year
KamKid
If Bauer is actually going to sign a one year deal, wouldn’t it be for a huge AAV? Can’t see one year $25m. If he’s not getting something like $40m for one year, then a longer term deal makes sense.
mattg-5
Username checks out, you must have coronavirus. If Bauer signs a one year deal it will be between $40-50m.
Brac2brac
No club is offering $40MM in this financial environment!!
Roll
in a normal year i would say 40-50M but with covid and prospects of no fans still hanging. I cant see anyone getting anything over 35M aav or single year deal this year. Especially with numbers already heading back up and scaring owners now and cba coming up soon.
VegasSDfan
I’m not sure we see any deals longer than 3 years. I also suspect breaking 100 million will be difficult. Things look very uncertain right now, which is bad for free agents.
CNichols
I don’t know about that, Bauer is kind of a wildcard, but I think the other guys should in theory get at least 4 years. Realmuto is elite at a position where talent is scarce. DJ and Springer are top level offensive producers.
Even in this down market the elite talent is going to be in demand. These are the impact players and the rest of the class is a significant drop off. It might be a brutal year for the fringe FA, but the QO guys should still get paid.
Stop Giving Billionaires Money
It should be Bauer.
His market is less dependent on anyone else.
Top tier pitching FA market begins and ends with him.
bradthebluefish
Excellent point. Room can also be made to as Bauer to the rotation. He won’t be blocking anybody.
DarkSide830
doesnt that mean he can also wait though?
Stop Giving Billionaires Money
It could. He controls that and has requirements outside money.
I could see him signing last too.
Roll
he could but the thing is teams if they make a bigger investment will be probably earlier rather than later so they can cheap out on a lot of the non-tenders and lesser tier young players with potential upside
hiflew
I think Bauer could be looking at a much longer wait than most people expect. I mean Dallas Keuchel had to wait until after the draft to sign and he wasn’t that far removed from his own Cy Young campaign.
andyg37
Bauer is peaking and has better stuff. Keuchel was declining. Bauer may be the last to sign because he needs a team to commit to letting him pitch every 4th day among his other criteria for selecting a team
hiflew
I disagree. Keuchel was only 1 year older than Bauer when he was waiting. In 2015 he had his Cy year. 2016 was bad, 2017 was great, 2018 was okay. He wasn’t declining, he was inconsistent. Sounds a lot like Bauer other than the timing of his Cy year. Bauer has has 1.5 great seasons and 7 average at best ones. Yes, 2020 looked great, but who knows whether his numbers would have regressed to his career averages in a regular year. The guy has a career 3.90 ERA and that includes his 2020 season. His 1.73 this season was a pure mirage. It was an Ubaldo Jimenez 2010 first half. Anyone signing him will be greatly disappointed.
mlb1225
Three seasons removed and a single season removed from a Cy Young season are very different. He is right though. Bauer’s stuff is better. Teams pay more for strikeout pitchers more than soft tossing control artists anymore.
GASoxFan
Dont forget bauer’s mentaility.
He may want to wait and see what suitors have done around the SP slot a little first.
Phillips lose JT? Less attractive. Mets add JT? More attractive.
So on so forth.
Yankee Clipper
I believe that’s exactly why it won’t be him. He will have the advantage of vetting multiple offers and teams’ acquisitions of other FAs will not impact their pursuit of SP nearly as much as other positions.
DJL imo because it is a matter of whether the Yankees can meet the 4/75-80 (whatever he’s willing to take). However, I very well may be wrong if there’s any merit to the rumors that they’re waiting on their DJL proposal to see if they can meet a Lindor trade…..
stymeedone
This year, I can see teams being more cautious with expenditures. I do not see any team signing two of these players. Every one that signs before Bauer means one less team that can afford giving him a long term contract. (The exception might be if he stays to a one year contract.) If you look at the number of teams that are likely to sign a big money contract this year, there just aren’t that many.
Roll
The only team i can see going for 2 is the mets with a new owner with big bucks making a splash and he didnt lose on it last year. Otherwise yes i agree with you stymeedone.
They also have a lot coming off the books with i believe Wright contract finished, Cespedes, Porcello, Ramos and Lowrie gone. I think thats around 60-70 mil gone and if my rough calculation is right based on the mlb only about a 10 -15 mil increase in arbitration assuming all are tendered. That leaves at min 45M to spend plus they were about 20 or so under cap. I I personally think they get a catcher and mid tier pitching and spread around cash though.
Aaron Sapoznik
For any particular team to sign 2 of these FA’s they would increase their chances with a need for all 4. The Mets would qualify in that regard.
That said, the White Sox might be a team with the potential to sign 2 of these players despite only having a need for two of them, namely SP Trevor Bauer and OF George Springer. Signing Bauer to top a rotation that currently has Lucas Giolito and Dallas Keuchel penciled in at #1 and #2 along with Springer to play RF would solve the White Sox two major needs this offseason.
Most of us would question the likelihood of Jerry Reinsdorf making such a financial commitment but he will be 85 in February, is in his last hurrah as owner and could erase the stain of HIS Tony La Russa hire with a mostly angry White Sox fanbase. The White Sox are also one of the few contenders who could financially handle the signing of two premier FA’s and doing so might elevate them to favorite status to represent the AL in the 2021 World Series and beyond.
HalosHeavenJJ
Interesting field. 4 separate positions, no real direct competition among them.
I’ll take Realmuto. He’s clearly the class of his position, only a handful of teams can afford him.
DJ returning to the Yanks seems so destined to happen that’s who I want to pick, but there are a ton of free agent middle infielders.
pustule bosey
I took realmuto too but ,mainly because more teams need a quality catcher with offense and they come by less often, the thing about lemaheiu is that I don’t think his market value is well established, he is going to get lowballed despite his numbers
Brac2brac
JTR is going to be one of the last players signed IF clubs have any concerns about $$ and he’s still adamant about trying to set AAV records for the position. It’s a risky proposition to sign a 30 year old catcher for 5 / $125MM even with his skillset and overall athleticism. There are only a handful of teams that will consider $100MM for a catcher his age. His market could stagnate should he slow play it and find that clubs have moved on to other priorities as there’s a vast difference between the number of clubs that will pay 4 /$80MM and and those that will consider 5 / $125MM.
Prediction- he signs late if NYY non-tender Sanchez. Ditto if he waits too long into December if they do tender.
Rsox
I think the (virtual) winter meetings are going to be very interesting this year. For teams that are going to spend i think that is when a lot of the heavy lifting will be done
Aaron Sapoznik
It might have been easier to narrow down the options had any of these free agents been Scott Boras clients but, alas, none are. lol
dan55
I think it will be Bauer. He is clearly the top pitcher available, and so he doesn’t really need to wait to see what other guys are getting. I think the other players value will be somewhat determined by what the other position players get, so they may have to wait a bit to get signed.
Brac2brac
Yep. Interesting to see if he’s chasing hi AAV for 1 year or a longterm deal. Covid and potential lockout in 2022 or 2023 (assumes that they bump the CBA a year due to another Covid impacted season) complicates the situation. He’s at significant risk on a one year that gets adjusted for a 2nd covid shortened season with potential injury due to interrupted ST etc. No to mention proration of the high AAV number which defeats the whole strategy of taking a 1yr deal.
Aaron Sapoznik
There is a substantial gap between all 4 of these free agents and the next best one available at their position now that SP’s Marcus Stroman and Kevin Gausman accepted their qualifying offers. That said, the drop from Trevor Bauer to Masahiro Tanaka is less than the ones involving J.T Realmuto, George Springer and DJ LeMahiue according to this site: mlbtraderumors.com/2020/11/mlb-free-agent-predicti…
explodet
Yankees will re-sign LeMahieu before the end of the month.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
I think we all keep assuming DJL is out for maximum years/money, but I feel like his baseball mind is smarter than that and everybody in baseball is wary of his potential drop off in health/productivity.
I am now predicting a 3 year/$61M pact between the Yankees and DJL, heavily middle loaded, with a significant signing bonus.
Bonus: $13M
2021: $12M
2022: $24M
2023: $12M
Brac2brac
I assume you’re structuring this to be a player friendly set of T’s & C’s. You’re factoring in potential Covid impact for 2021 with the signing bonus, but neglecting a potential 2022 lockout with $24MM salary. Only valid reason to do a 3 / $60MM this way is if you feel $20MM AAV is a home town discount. I’m not sure that’s the case.
A player his age wants a four year deal so if $20MM AAV is a HTD then he’s going after something more like 4/ $72MM – $75MM
Brac2brac
I assume you’re structuring this to be a player friendly set of T’s & C’s. You’re factoring in potential Covid impact for 2021 with the signing bonus, but neglecting a potential 2022 lockout with $24MM salary. Only valid reason to do a 3 / $60MM this way is if you feel $20MM AAV is a home town discount. I’m not sure that’s the case.
A player his age wants a four year deal so if $20MM AAV is a HTD then he’s going after something more like 4/ $72MM – $75MM
Brac2brac
I assume you’re structuring this to be a player friendly set of T’s & C’s. You’re factoring in potential Covid impact for 2021 with the signing bonus, but neglecting a potential 2022 lockout with $24MM salary. Only valid reason to do a 3 / $60MM this way is if you feel $20MM AAV is a home town discount. I’m not sure that’s the case.
A player his age wants a four year deal so if $20MM AAV is a HTD then he’s going after something more like 4/ $72MM – $75MM
Yankee Clipper
TTO: that’s a sound three-year proposal also that meets both the Yankees’ needs and his. Thankfully he’s one of the few players that loves NYY and wants to return even if it means taking less money (you know, like Bryce Harper didn’t). I have a lot of respect for players that look past the bottom-line dollar.
NY_Yankee
I do not think LeMahieu is one the “Few” players who love playing in New York. There are actually more then you might think. It is only those that have a bad experience or want to avoid it like David Price did that get the headlines. Why do certainly players dislike it? The expectations from the fans and the constant media pressure are not for everyone. For those who do not, there are plenty of alternatives such as San Diego.
Brac2brac
Wonky Tech. Of course posting 3x is a mistake…
deweybelongsinthehall
I thought you just wanted to make sure you were heard. Seriously, your logic seems sound but I’m not sure MLB wants to get into signing bonuses like other sports even because of covid unless they also reduce the guaranteed years and instead use a traditional option. I don’t see the union happy with that. Also, DJ is happy in NY and I’m expecting him to play the market and then re-up in the Bronx.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Well
Well
Well… lol
First question is: do we know for sure that a lockout in 2022 is inevitable? Or do we think negotiations will be friendlier because everybody is economically wary after the shortened season in 2020 and the potential multi-year revenue loss due to the pandemic?
Also given Mookie’s $65M signing bonus…. $13M ain’t nothing but a thang.
And I am figuring yes reduced salaries continue at least through 2021 even with a full season, due to zero or heavily reduced attendance and fans not spending money on all kinds of stuff in stadium that they normally would- those $30 hats, $150 jerseys, etc. do help pay the bills….
Also a guy like DJL strikes me as practical as well as betting on himself. He was projected to get a 2 year/$18M deal going into the 2019 season and he got 2 years/$24M from the Yankees… now he’s worth much more, but it seems like it’s a questions of years, not dollars per season.
Given that, yes, I think it would seem most prudent for both sides to keep his AAV up but his actual year-to-year salaries down, overall, with at least one year at max value to acknowledge his contributions but not hamstring the team’s budgets and not become an albatross in the latter years of a contract, where nobody seems certain he can keep this level of performance up, even in the home town Yankee stadium that seems to juice his numbers so wonderfully.
Fg-3
Dj will sign first. 3 years 50 mil with Yankees. I don’t think they will go higher. Bauer definitely wants to be a Yankee.. but he doesn’t seem like the right fit. I like Morton if he’ll come to ny he’s a perfect addition to Cole and will solidify the rotation
Old User Name
I like Morton as well but I think he stays in Fla. So I’d like to see the Yankees get Kluber or Richards to go along with Tanaka, who is most likely to re-sign with the team.
NY_Yankee
Bauer does NOT want to be a Yankee. Why? 1: His issues with Cole. 2: He knows quite well that if he does not pitch like an All-Star he will get killed by the fans and media because of his big mouth and contract. He will sign with a team like the Angels or Padres where he will be treated like Elvis.
angt222
Springer. I think his market is more obvious as far as teams that would be interested. He’s probably also a more clear candidate as far as a contract that he’d likely sign. I think Mets land him for 4 yrs / $110M.
jay13
This is where I am at, I agree with you. Springer to the Mets first. Winter meetings we will see dominoes fall quicker then usual.
I think JTR won’t be too far behind. Cream of the crop at catcher.
Bauer might make teams wait so he can plan out his strategy. A lot of variables to bounce with his way of thinking.
DJL is the wild card. I agree he will try and max his value. Will be tough though with Covid issues and the flux of middle infield talent on the list. His bat is worth it.
dugmet
Mets / Springer
Yankee Clipper
Springer is an interesting case this year. How will teams value his productivity with the cheating scandal? He’s a good fit for many teams and many teams really need a top-tier OFer, but will they be willing to spend after the losses from COVID?
He should have plenty of opportunities, but at what valuation, and how amenable will he be to those terms?
After all, according to Boras, Paxton is all but Jacob DeGrom……… so the dollars are going to be spread pretty thinly this season.
VegasSDfan
Which team wants to spend a lot on free agency?
I assume every gm, and zero owners, considering the losses last year.
Very few teams are going to increase their payroll.
One Bite Hotdog
are weekend comment sections always this pleasant around here?
Also, when was the last time that two of the Top 4 FA discussed had first names represented by initials?
its_happening
Smart money on the oldest player.
BobGibsonFan
I think Springer will sign first. Springer made $21 mil last year. His contract will be close to that amount and for about 4 or 5 years.. no real change, so he just needs to focus on where he wants to play. He has a ring, so not the main concern.
Bauer seems to be all about the money so he wants to hear from every potential team to drive up the dollar amount.
Realmuto hasnt made much money yet, $10 mil last year and much less before that. He is going to be looking closely at the dollar signs.
I think dj wants to go to the yankees, but the yankees are going to try and lowball him. He will wait to see what’s out there to drive the price up.
377194
I think the Mets will lock up Springer real fast.
VegasSDfan
I doubt it. They will build their farm. They won’t spend to go nowhere
Joggin’George
I think that would be a bad idea
Ketch
Bad idea or not, the Mets have a new owner who might want to make a big PR splash and the Mets could use a centerfielder. I do see the match, but the only question for me with regards to this poll is whether or not he will sign first..
377194
BobGibsonFan, I think you’re spot on.
Brac2brac
I think he will re-up too, but it puts a real crimp in their ability to sign other players and still stay under the CBT. They have other needs.
DJ is also an older player who I don’t think can deliver a lot of surplus value on any contract he is willing to sign. I’d rather see them sign Kim even as much as I like DJ. Kim is the right age to preform or out preform his contract every year assuming ~ 5 / $40MM. That makes him tradable if you need to put together a package for a player in the future < think Cole goes down when everything else is going well and they can get a #1 SP on an expiring contract or they've reset CBT and want to sign Lindor or another top SS knowing that they won't pay Judge as a FA.
Last – I'd sign Bauer to any deal that still allowed them to get under the CBT in 2021 and then max payroll for 2 or 3 years.
Dan Hunter
Bauer loves Cohen.
Ketch
I don’t think I’m in the minority thinking LeMahieu will sign first and it will be with the Yankees.