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Red Sox Claim Joel Payamps, Designate Robert Stock

By Steve Adams | November 25, 2020 at 1:43pm CDT

The Red Sox announced Wednesday that they’ve claimed right-hander Joel Payamps off waivers from the D-backs and designated fellow righty Robert Stock for assignment in order to open a spot on the 40-man roster. Boston also announced that right-hander Ryan Weber and southpaw Matt Hall, both of whom were designated for assignment last Friday, were assigned to Triple-A Pawtucket after clearing outright waivers.

Payamps, 26, has just seven Major League innings under his belt. He’s struggled in a hitter-friendly setting with Triple-A Reno in the Pacific Coast League but was solid in Double-A Jackson in both 2018 and 2019, working to a combined 2.95 ERA with a 135-to-19 K/BB ratio in 128 innings. Payamps has worked as both a starter and a reliever in the minors, and he has a minor league option remaining for the upcoming 2021 season, which surely appeals to the Sox.

Stock, 31, has a big fastball and punched out 14 hitters in 13 1/3 innings with the Red Sox this past season, but he’s battled control issues throughout his MLB career (31 walks, three hit batters, 10 wild pitches in 63 2/3 frames).

The Red Sox gave the journeyman Weber a rotation opportunity in 2020 and held out hopes that he could elevate his game to a new level with some tweaks to his repertoire. However, while Weber managed a respectable 4.40 ERA in 43 innings of work, he also posted a lackluster 27-to-14 K/BB ratio and a 5.54 FIP. Hall was acquired out of the Tigers organization and drew some intrigue for the huge spin on his breaking ball, but he also struggled in a more limited sample with the Red Sox. Both were designated for assignment last Friday as the Sox set their roster in advance of next month’s Rule 5 Draft.

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  1. DarkSide830

    2 months ago

    Phillies should bring Stock back

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  2. connfyoozed

    2 months ago

    Robert Stack from “Unsolved Mysteries”?

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    • miltpappas

      2 months ago

      Unfortunately, he isn’t “Untouchable”.

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      • Michael Macaulay-Birks

        2 months ago

        Of all the shows from the 50s and 60s that’s my favorite

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    • Spike 13

      2 months ago

      He might be more effective

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  3. looiebelongsinthehall

    2 months ago

    Who did they sign? Who did they release? Seems like 2020 moves will continue until the ball drops ending this miserable year.

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  4. pasha2k

    2 months ago

    I think Bloom is making some good finds, dumpster seeking but sometimes you find a diamond

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  5. hoopd946

    2 months ago

    I grew up playing against Robert Stock in youth ball and that dude was a stud. He threw 90mph at like 13 years old

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    • looiebelongsinthehall

      2 months ago

      Just makes you realize how hard it really is to make the big leagues. I couldn’t have a 90 mph fast ball at 13, 23, 33, etc.

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  6. hereallnight

    2 months ago

    Are the Red Sox still referring to their Triple-A team as being in Pawtucket or is it now officially Worcester-based in advance of next season?

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    • miltpappas

      2 months ago

      I can’t fathom rooting for a “WooSox” or a “WorSox”.

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      • looiebelongsinthehall

        2 months ago

        WooSox minor league team, woeful Sox major league team.

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      • MafiaBass

        2 months ago

        You’re in luck then because Worcester is pronounced “wistah”

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        • pwndroia

          2 months ago

          Actually is Woo-stah depending on accent. I’ve heard more woo than wi. Not too far for me either.

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    • dennyd

      2 months ago

      Its Worcester officially.

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  7. dennyd

    2 months ago

    Scouting Report:
    Payamps had a strong arm and threw in the low 90s with a slurvy breaking ball but above-average command. The reports of the changeup were that it would flash at times, but it wasn’t a pitch Payamps could rely on. Payamps creates a lot of bad swings and leaves hitters well out front. It could be due to more advanced sequencing, or the changeup could’ve taken a step forward. He ran into a bit of a rough patch when he hit Reno, but I’m willing to let the five homers allowed in 26 innings slide for now. It’s a tough place to pitch and it was at the end of the season. The most likely role for Payamps is a utility type pitcher.

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    • LV96

      2 months ago

      He has an option, so he will be sent to AAA and be an up/down pitcher. Stock had no remaining options and would have had to clear waivers every time he would have been sent down. Stock also had control issues.

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      • Gary

        2 months ago

        LV96@, that’s it right there. 100% the reason. Good post.

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    • Gary

      2 months ago

      Dennyd@, Great report thank you for providing that !!

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  8. Jeff Zanghi

    2 months ago

    Bloom seems to really hate strike outs lol… I actually kind of thought Stock had the potential to develop into a solid reliever and has obvious K potential and a big fastball. But Bloom seems determined to fill out the pitching staff with guys who post below 9.0 K/9 rates. (I’m not specifically talking about Payamps — he actually seems like a solid enough claim) … it’s just in designating Stock and a few other moves he’s made… He’s essentially picked up several guys that barely strike anyone out and released or designated all the guys with big K potential.

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    • whyhayzee

      2 months ago

      He’s trying to stay away from those big 95+ MPH throwers so that how old is chapman doesn’t throw over someone’s head.

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    • LV96

      2 months ago

      The big strikeout pitchers had a lot of problems walking too many batters and giving up way too many home runs for the Red Sox last year. I would rather have guys who induce weak contact, so you end up with more double plays and few home runs.

      If you look back at the stats from the 1970s and 1980s strikeout rates were much lower, walks to a large degree were lower, and pitchers threw more innings. I would bet that the number of pitches per batter was lower as well which would have helped pitchers get through more innings (saving bullpens). Pitching staffs were 10. Now they are 12 or even 13 and a lot of the pitchers only come in for one inning. Rollie Fingers saves were often 2 or even three innings for Oakland (AL league leader in 1977, 1978, 1981).

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  9. Get rid of the softball players

    2 months ago

    The pirates will be irrelevant for 6 years because of the archer trade.theo is trying to sneak out the back door because he didn’t maintain his roster.the reds need to overhaul their roster now because there will be a glut of serviceable free agents to sign at discounted prices.on the block should be gray,bradley,iglesias,suarez,aquino,goodwin,castallanos and mistakas. A total overhaul.
    Then sign reasonably priced free agents and try to flip them at the trade deadline.lf the reds don’t have 16 new players on their 40 man roster by the start of 2021.they will continue to battle with the pirates for years for last place in the central

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  10. Dorothy_Mantooth

    2 months ago

    I was hoping Bloom was done with the bottom of the roster churn but apparently not. The Red Sox will need to clear at least 3-4 spots off of their 40 man to sign major league players so I wouldn’t be surprised if this guy gets put on waivers soon himself.

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  11. LV96

    2 months ago

    Future candidates to be removed from the 40-man:

    Jeffrey Springs
    Yoan Aybar

    Soxprospect.com list 1 remaining option, however:

    Marcus Walden (optioned on 8/19- last one)
    Colton Brewer (mlb to IL was not optioned, but had no remaining options)

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  12. LV96

    2 months ago

    If you want to understand Bloom’s signings, look at controllability and the number of options a players had. It makes a big difference on how valuable a players is.

    The players Bloom obtained last August were:
    Potts, Rosario, Seabold all were Rule 5 eligible and those teams had no space and the RS did, so they were far more valuable to to RS than those teams.

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  13. Spike 13

    2 months ago

    This kid has but a handful of innings @AAA level. He doesn’t walk many,generates swing and miss,has upside. Can’t be much worse than we saw this season.

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