The non-tender deadline has passed. Some of the more notable non-tenders included Kyle Schwarber, David Dahl, Archie Bradley, Eddie Rosario, Adam Duvall, Maikel Franco, Nomar Mazara, and Carlos Rodon.
Here’s the full list of players who were non-tendered and became free agents today. You can view our full free agent tracker here.
Catchers
Curt Casali (32)
Chadwick Tromp (26)
Tony Wolters (29)
First Basemen
Rangel Ravelo (29)
Danny Santana (30)
Second Basemen
Hanser Alberto (28)
Kyle Farmer (30) – immediately signed MLB deal afterward
Greg Garcia (31)
Shortstops
Jeison Guzman (22)
Daniel Robertson (27)
Third Basemen
Maikel Franco (28)
Travis Shaw (31)
Left Fielders
David Dahl (27)
Adam Duvall (32)
Eddie Rosario (29)
Kyle Schwarber (28)
Center Fielders
Albert Almora (27)
Delino DeShields (28)
Brian Goodwin (30)
Scott Heineman (28)
Erick Mejia (26)
Bubba Starling (28)
Right Fielders
Ben Gamel (29)
Nomar Mazara (26)
Tyler Naquin (30)
Jace Peterson (31)
Designated Hitters
Jose Martinez (32)
Starting Pitchers
Tyler Anderson (31)
Chi Chi Gonzalez (29)
Foster Griffin (25)
Ariel Jurado (25)
Carlos Rodon (28)
Jefry Rodriguez (27)
Jose Urena (29)
Right-Handed Relievers
Melvin Adon (26)
R.J. Alaniz (30)
Justin Anderson (28)
Matt Andriese (31)
Archie Bradley (28)
John Brebbia (31)
A.J. Cole (29)
Edgar Garcia (24)
Rico Garcia (27)
Jimmy Herget (27)
Jonathan Holder (28)
Clay Holmes (28)
Keynan Middleton (27)
Hansel Robles (30)
Carlos Sanabria (24)
Paul Sewald (31)
Ryne Stanek (29)
Ryan Tepera (33)
Nick Tropeano (30)
Matt Wisler (28)
Left-Handed Relievers
Alex Claudio (29)
Hoby Milner (30)
Chasen Shreve (30)
Some useful pieces out there amongst the ruble.
Da, comrade.
Lol
@pt57: That made me laugh. It scared the cat.
Ok , the cat scaring incident made me laugh.
Your laughing at the cat scaring incident made me laugh
much better than simply pointing out a spelling mistake 🙂
I’m still laughing.
I originally wrote some useful pieces out there amongst the peso.
I need a cat, just so I can scare it with my laughing at this thread. Trying to decide whether I would name the cat Gray Scale or Dollar.
I have no clue why the Phillies tendered VV a contract.
For real…this rebuild is taking far longer then it should…at least we got Harper….yayyyy
At some point, it turns onto a failed rebuild, and needs to be redone.
well, “redone” is a bit extreme; they ain’t gonna sell off everything and start all over from scratch. They’ve invested heavy in FA deals with Harper/Wheeler, and they have a semi-decent controllable core of Hoskins, Nola, and Bohm. It’s unfortunate that they need to continue adding free agents in order to improve because they A) fail at trades and B) fail at drafting. Phils are in a tough spot, as it seems like ownership won’t pay for big contracts this year. We will have to rely on some savvy, under-the-radar type moves. Don’t hold your breath. I can’t remember the last time “savvy” belonged in the same sentence with our Phillies.
…and the Phils’ front office is cutting back employees.
They were not a .500/competitive team WITH Harper, Segura, Nola, Hoskins, Gregorius, Kingery, Wheeler and Realmuto. Why?
PITCHING, plain and simple.
They screwed themselves by losing so many games early and then trying to play 50 games in 53 days. They couldn’t even compete in 7 inning games!
Now you remove at least two very large pieces in Didi and JTR and what do you replace them with?
Velasquez has nasty, closer like stuff and I think would excel in a bullpen role. But as a starter, he kills your bullpen every start.
If the Phils don’t do a serious pitching overhaul, they need to look at how the Rays maximized their arms when they only had two dependable starters.
Phils couldn’t win scoring 6 runs a game, they aren’t winning more WITHOUT Realmuto and Didi unless they have 5 or 6 good, new pitchers they can count on.
I see there is some interest in Segura, so the Phillies can lose 2 shortstops!
Harper just put up a 157 OPS+ and Phillies fans are complaining.
I don’t think anyone is complaining about Harper. They’re complaining that the crappy pitching is canceling out Harper. OPS+ alone doesn’t bring a WS.
I felt the same with Boyd, brother
Phils are gonna make VV a full time reliever. Yeah, I know, that’s been tried before. However, both times VV was sent to the pen injuries to a starter necessitated his return to the rotation. Given how lousy our bullpen was last year, VV most likely gonna start in the bullpen and stay there all year. Right now, Phils have Neris, VV and a couple of youngsters in the pen. Need about five or six more.
They also gave Hector Neris another chance…
when did alberto get non tendered
Today?
I’m pretty sure Ben Gamel is missing from the list.
He’s on there under right fielders
Alex Claudio and Jace Peterson are missing as well.
Thanks, I added those guys after I saw this.
The left fielders though
Yeah some decent players there
Ben Gamel, Jace Peterson, and Alex Claudio are missing.
One could construct a pretty decent lineup comprised entirely of non-tender players.
1. SS Danny Santana
2. DH David Dahl
3. RF Nomar Mazara
4. 1B Jose Martinez
5. LF Eddie Rosario
6. 3B Maikel Franco
7. 2B Travis Shaw
8. C Tony Wolters
9, CF Delino DeShields
No Adam Duvall? Come on
Dahl to CF and Duvall to DH.
Trust me, you want Duvall in the field over Rosario, where he can’t miss the cutoff man.
No Schwarber?
Despite a miserable 2020, Kyle Schwarber has the highest fWAR (3.0) among all these non-tenders since 2019: mlb.com/news/list-of-non-tendered-free-agents-2020…
Kyle Schwarber LF/DH.
That lineup would win 60 games, if healthy.
And the Pirates will win how many?
And that’s with elite pitching lol
A rule of thumb for each gm in a regular season is 95% of the teams will win 60 games and loose 60 games so they now have to figure out, how to get 42 wins out there roster. Now that being said waive the the start up money to add an expansion teams in Nashville and Montreal. Let those groups start signing players. Think it will be the perfect time to add them, salaries will be probably the lowest in years. Plus hopefully by May or June we could be back filling ballparks with the vaccine. Ok here comes all the haters comments
Stubby then last thing MLB needs is another expansion. If anything MLB should contract 2-4 cheep cheep teams that never compete and do nothing but trade guys as soon as they start earning the big $$$.
Stubby where did you come up with that rule of thumb? I have never heard that before.
Also, when would you propose expansion teams without stadiums or ownership groups lined up play in the league?
Maybe they should wait until they survive the end of the pandemic before considering expansion. Expansion works when your business has been well prepared for eventualities, this doesn’t seem like one MLB had been well prepared for.
His rule of thumb is just another way of recognizing that in a 162-game season the best teams rarely win many more than 100 games (which equates to around 60 losses) while the worst teams don’t often lose much more than 100 games (i.e, around 60 wins).
I get that Odd. I just didn’t know if it was actually a common breakdown for people to use.
I just sounds weird. Like if a teacher said “95% of students get 50/100 questions, so you just need to find a way to get as many of those other 50 correct”. Maybe it’s just a Yogi Berra style saying that just…is.
Ok well Nashville does have a stadium and a group of people that are trying to get a major league team it has Dave Dombroski hired .
The saying goes “every team is going to win 54 games and lose 54 games, it’s what you do with the other 54 that matter.” Never heard of a 95% rule of thumb…
Hawk Harrelson the Sox announcer always used to reference your going to win. And loose 60 it’s what you do with the 40 up for grab ones
Then they’d blow lead in 9th give up a walk off and after min or 2 of silence well Stone Poney ( Steve Stone who does color) this one those 42 games i talk about and we can mark this one in the L column
To quote the great Lou Brown “There’s two or three potential All Stars in there”
Starting to come together Pepper!
I would take that bet.
But the thing is none of them can stay healthy long enough to pay off.
Defense though
They will rely on very advanced system of statistical probability and shifting. The coaches will position them such that they only need to hold their glove in a specific area and they will catch the ball.
Are coaches allowed to go onto the field and move the guys like mannequins before the pitch is thrown?
How fast will they get to last place?
Let’s just ship them all to Pittsburgh. Already have a few pitchers and players to go with them. Might even be competitive
Decent lineup? If that team doesn’t end up dead last in the league, I don’t know what is wrong with some teams not even trying.
That lineup would have to pray for a high strikeout pitcher because they won’t defend much. And not many lineups would have poorer hitting. Aside from that, you can hope for a jovial locker room full of misfits.
Nah dude, it would look like this:
C Casali
1B Schwarber
2B Alberto
3B Shaw
SS Garcia
LF Rosario
CF DeShields
RF Dahl
DH Duvall
C Wolters
IF Garcia
OF Goodwin
UT Santana
SP Rodon
SP Urena
SP Anderson
SP Gonzalez
SP Rodriguez
P Andriese
RP Bradley
RP Stanek
RP Claudio
RP Wisler
RP Stanek
RP Brebbia
With perfect health you could reasonably expect this team to win 75-78 games
Shaw isn’t a second baseman, he only briefly played there several years ago. Alberto deserves that spot, he’s probably a better hitter too.
I was surprised by several of these moves, but am absolutely befuddled by the Twins decision to non-tender Wisler. He was elite last season, and was still very affordable. For a team that just lost Trevor May and who may lose several other key bullpen pieces from their 2020 roster, this move just makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Honorable Mention WTFs : Archie Bradley, David Dahl, Adam Duvall, Curt Casali and Chasen Shreve
I really don’t understand Archie Bradley, either.. He would have gotten $6-7 million in arbitration, no? Seems like a very reasonable deal for a solid reliever, especially when the Reds just traded two prospects and cash for him. So in the end, it’s two prospects and cash for 7 innings of Bradley. Head-scratcher to say the least.
rct: Nobody claimed Brad Hand for $10,000,000.00 dollars. Why would the Reds pay $6,000,000.00-$7,000,000.00 for Archie Bradley?
Yeah, good point I guess. I just don’t understand what the Reds were thinking when they acquired him. It’s as if they went “all in” for 2020 and now they have given up and are ready to rebuild again. Pretty weak.
@Prospectnvstr: Because now he’ll leave and they’ll get nothing? His contract wasn’t a problem at $4+ million, but is at $6-7 million?
Again, they gave up prospects and *cash* for Bradley so they clearly valued him to some degree. To cut him loose after only 7 solid innings for the club strikes me as odd.
True, I hope this was thought through, giving up players for a few innings of 2020 playoff drive, perhaps they have a few trades unfolding
I’m glad someone mentioned Chasen Shreve. He really pitched well for the Mets and couldn’t be that expensive. I can only imagine that there may have been some communication between the two sides and the non-tender was given so he might get more of a full time gig elsewhere?
I fully expect the Mets to bring him back if he doesn’t get the opportunity he hopes for.
Let the offseason fun begin!
Like!
I’m assuming Bryant was tendered a contract?
He was indeed.
I was hoping he would be non-tendered as well. I have always thought he would be a great addition to Texas. If Rangers do not get Kim, which would be a mistake, I can live with Franco at 3b until Jung is ready. In LF if you cannot trade for GUrriel you sign Scwarber or Renfroe as LF and Almora or Dahl as 4th OF. A. Bradley should definitely be added to the pen and you sign Urena and Rondon to minor league deals with spring invite for depth.
What’s the over/under on how many of these guys resign with the team that non-tendered them within the next 24 hours?
Rangers should have kept Santana… but makes it likely Tavares will be opening day CF
Can’t say I agree. But thanks
Rangers need to offer Dahl 3 year 18 mil. I really think he is a very solid piece and we need a LF
not all guaranteed of course just through incentives guarantee him 3 or 4 a year
3.5 guaranteed a year
I’d be shocked to see a baseball contract like that.
Dunno. Dahl, for as talented as he is, just can’t stay on the field. Always hurt. Listing his many injuries in a public forum would surely be a HIPPA violation.
Dahl and Roman Quinn must use the same personal trainer. Neither one can go a dozen games or more without something tweaking them.
Pittsburgh, Oakland, Oakland.
One P, two A’s.
The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996.
Too much for Dahl, due to injury history. Scwarber, Duvall, Rosario are all better choices. The optimum choice here is a trade for Gurriel, Andujar, or Dom Smith unless they trust Ozuna out there. I would even take Renfroe over Dahl
Cubs jettisoned half their outfielders.
quite a few ex rangers
Only 3 LHPs cut. Shreve will get a look from someone.
I don’t understand the Mets decision to non-tender Shreve. He was easily their best lefty reliever on the roster, and was more affordable than what other top LHRP figure to command.
As a Yankee fan, I understand this decision completely. He’s just really not very good, man.
I’m not saying he’s Chapman or Britton, but he was pretty solid last season and has been solid in the past. I’m surprised the Mets didn’t think he was worth a million bucks to roll the dice on again.
Yeah, the million bucks part I can see teams finding attractive.
I watched him for about 3 1/2 years with the Yanks. He had one really nice stretch. Some almost average stretches and some truly abysmal periods.
He was crushed when he got traded for Voit, man.
He just doesn’t have anything that’s overpowering. Well…he didn’t then, anyway. He was still tinkering with his pitch mix in NY. He’s left handed so he’ll probably keep getting shots.
To me he’s similar to Holder whom the Yanks just non-tendered. Guys who are just not quite average big league relievers. Now…watch them both go somewhere & become All Star closers like Kirby Yates lol.
Be careful, Ducky. He’s a free agent and the Yankees could use another lefty out in the pen!
Oh no you don’t! Lol
I am actually mildly interested in Claudio for that role.
Man…so many good relief options.
I thought for sure the Giants would have non-tendered Trevor Gott, but they non-tendered Tyler Anderson instead, I guess it’s the difference in money, but I think I’d rather have Anderson instead of Gott despite the dollar difference.
A lot of these non-tenders could still be re-signed at lower rates than their arbitration projections
True, and I wouldn’t mind seeing Anderson re-signed at a better price, but I still don’t understand why they would want to hold on to Gott. He epitomises, their greatest weaknesses, and is the biggest single reason in them not making it to the PS.
I wouldn’t mind seeing Schwarber mash at Fenway
Being an Illinois native and the black sheep in a Cubs family, my dad and I have often talked of that. His swing would kill in the AL east but I dont think we’ll pursue him. The Sox need a CF, maybe a 2B and for sure some pitching. It would be cool though.
Not really a fit for Boston. Already have two left handed hitting starting outfielders, and a need for a good defensive CF to replace Bradley Jr.
Benintendi or Verdugo could slide over to CF with the other playing RF. We had three left handed hitting Outfielders to start last season so its not unheard of
Sign Pillar or Duvall to compliment Schwarber and Benintendi. Verdugo plays everyday. Schwarber in Boston would absolutely make sense.
It would really comes down to whether or not Benintendi or Verdugo can handle CF. Schwarber is not a great fielder, so they’d need good defense in center.
Verdugo has actually started more games in CF (62) than at any other spot in the OF (second most is 50 in RF) with 0 Errors albeit in a small sample but it seems he should be able to handle CF
Can some wise one tell me if this is weird compared to years past? It just seems bananas that the reds would let go of two reasonably priced 2020 top performers in Bradley and Casali. Is this a sign of how bad the free agent market will be?
I think so, unfortunately. In years past, players like Bradley and Casali would at least be tendered contracts, and then used as trade bait. The fact that they, along with players like Kyle Schwarber and David Dahl, are being non-tendered is indicative of how rough this year’s free agent market figures to be.
It’s definitely weird to see Drew Smyly get an $11 million guarantee and Mike Minor get an $18 million guarantee when above average regulars are being casually non-tendered.
About the same total number of players non-tendered this year as last, I think, but 50+ is on the high side historically. It’s hard to say if this year was high because of the specific 2020 circumstances, or if this is just in line with the trend of recent years. Probably a bit of both.
I wish MLBTR would do a comparison in non-tenders from 2009 after the 2008 collapse. I remember a couple of surprising non-tenders just to save money.
For example, my Astros non-tendered Ty Willingham (I think that was his name.) He’d just put up a 30 homer season and had carried the team in the second half and was projected to make like 5.5M. In a need to cut salary, he was non-tendered. In retrospect, he didn’t have much a career after that, but, at the time, it was surprising to Astros fans to see the hottest bat get cut for nothing.
Ty Wigginton. Had an .874 OPS for the Stros that season.
Weird? Not really. Under the context of lost revenue teams are not as willing to spend big on fringe players as they normally would be in a normal offseason
You say “weird? Not Really” Followed up by “under the context of lost revenue”…which is an extremely weird current variable lol… Got it, it’s weird compared to years past. Thanks.
Its not really “weird” it should be expected given the fact that teams made little to no money this past season
“Irregular” seems like a decent word to use here.
It’s a sign of how bad free agency will be for reds. Casali makes sense as TySteve is ready and Barnhart is under contract. But Bradley shows that reds are cutting costs again already. Took em 5 years to put a competitive team back on the field and now they are cutting costs.
Dahl should be picked up pretty quick
David Dahl/Matt Wisler/Archie Bradley/Chasen Shreve/Ryan Tepera (esp. w/ the Cubs tendering Winkler/Rea/Kyle Ryan) are the most surprising here.
Eddie Rosario is made expendable by Kiriloff, Hanser Alberto by Yolmer Sanchez, Schwarber will get a big league deal for less $ than projected. Duvall doesn’t really fit with the braves due to the combo of Drew Water + whatever big bat they sign
Rodon joins Trevor Williams/Alex Wood/Folty in the buy low tier for rebuilding teams
So, does Tim spring for a round of Slurpees after the non-tender frenzy? Good work, guys.
Good evening, ma’am.
How do you & your boy feel about NYC?
Ok now the non tender deadline is over, can we start the offseason now please?
Ryan Tepera hot mvp vote? That a joke?
I came here to the comments to see if anyone else noticed as well LOL.
Someone accidentally voted for Tepera instead of a name next to his, I believe.
the fact that they didnt let the guy fix it after was a joke
I know the story and oddly, it makes sense on why they didn’t let the voter fix his mistake. It sets a dangerous precedent to allow those that “make a mistake” to go back and fix it. The ballot is final when cast and that should always be the end of it. From the story told from the person who cast the ballot, he was thankful that it didn’t end up influencing the winner, as it didn’t. But again, a ballot should never be able to be “fixed” if the person who cast it feels differently when the vote comes out. Even if the player that got the vote doesn’t deserve it. If you allow one, you might have to start allowing others. Not a good idea.
The fact they let these guys decide who goes to Cooperstown is a joke.
Who do you think should be able to do it?
You?
Ben Gamel should get more than a few looks and be back playing out there in right field for the 2021 season
I’m shocked Boston didn’t non-tender Matt Barnes. He’s going to get $4M+ in arbitration and he’s just not worth that much. Would much rather see someone like Archie Bradley in the pen vs. Barnes, but the Sox love advanced stats and Barnes K-rate and spin rate must be enough for them to take the gamble here.
I think there’s still a level of consistency that has plagued Barnes. If they can work past that, he has all the talent and pieces to be an elite reliever where $4 million is a bargain. I think that’s the way the Sox think as well.
Keep in mind also, Cora was likely consulted and in 2018 under Cora’s management team, Barnes posted a 2.71 ERA with 96K in 61 innings in 2018. His FIP and xFIP support the work he put in and felt 2019 should have been a similar year. Projections for 2021 remain strong on Fangraphs as well. Expecting much closer to 2018-2019 then 2020. However, 100% agree that he always makes me nervous on the mound. He’s got a trend of blowing some pretty big moments and the pressure of closing might not be for him.
If they would stop trying to make Barnes a Closer that would probably go a long way to fixing his inconsistencies. He is not a good fit in the 9th inning and he never looks comfortable in save situations.
The Sox need a real Closer, not this bullpen by committee nonsense they have used since Kimbrel left
Yes, they do need a real closer, because like “prevent defense” this closer by committee crap has never worked and will never worked, even if you actually have a good bullpen.
On a side note, this list is MUCH smaller than I thought it would be.
Same here.
Yeah, we were being prepped for some type of non-tendergeddon. Still, there are more guys on this last than last year’s record number of 53.
Dahl would be a great pickup by the Red Sox. Lots of upside and energy while being inexpensive. The Sox don’t really know who they are in 2021 yet, and Dahl’s price tag would not be problematic no matter who they are. Also, they could shop him at the deadline if they get off to a rough start in 2021.
Say the Sox sign Dahl. Who plays CF out of him, Benintendi or Verdugo?
While Verdugo would probably deliver the best results, it’s hard to move him out of the huge RF at Fenway. So it would probably be some sort of combination of the 3. Verdugo might play CF on the road while Dahl/Benni rotate at Fenway. It sure seems like Boston is hoping that Duran has a hot Spring and gets promoted up to Boston sooner than later. I’m guessing Boston will try to bring Kevin Pillar back on a one year deal to man CF while Duran gets some more seasoning down in the minors. That is of course unless the Puig to Boston rumors are true. If that is the case, Puig takes over RF and Verdugo moves to CF.
Haven’t seen the Giants moves as being official? Source?
So the Phillies could pick up several BP guys, including Bradley, and a catcher ( if they lose JT ) and a platoon CF. All for a total of less than 20 million probably-
Leaving plenty of money for Didi and a starting pitcher or two.
This truly is a rare opportunity to remake this bullpen for the next few years. If the Phils don’t splurge on the top-tier guy in Hendriks, they can and should add 3 arms from the HUGE list. I want Bradley, Kela, and Hand. This is more than do-able for this team, and it would go a long way to improving that dreadful bullpen. I’d love them to bring along Taijuan Walker and Trevor Williams for starting pitching options as well. I don’t think that’s asking for too much.
I really hope my Phils re-sin Didi. He was our most consistent player last year. Not real pumped about a middle infield of Segura nd Kingery. Also surprised Phils didn’t offer Didi a QO. Only $4 million more than they paid him last year, and if he rejected it, at least we’d get an extra draft pick. Whatever, supposedly the Angels are prepared to make Didi a nice multi-year offer. Their owner sure isn’t shy about spending big cheese.
Angels traded for Iglesias yesterday, so they are probably not signing Gregorius.
Oakland is going to have a field day with all these non-tenders players.
I made a list of 5 players I thought were safest from being non-tendered. I was right about Kris Bryant, Gary Sanchez and Robert Gsellman. I was wrong on Eddie Rosario and A.J. Cole. I knew I should have picked Yonny Chirinos over Cole, but with TB I felt like nobody was safe.
Tigers should go after dhal or Rosario
Tigers should go after any outfielder with a pulse!
Idk about that lol but dhal would be a great pick up for anyone if he can stay healthy
I agree that Dahl could be a great fit for the Tigers actually. Rebuilding club with a serious need for outfield depth. Dahl is still young himself, and if he can get healthy and start living up to his potential, he could be a great get for a young up-and-coming club like the Tigers.
I agree, but who goes? Send Stewart back to Toledo?
Probably. Dahl has a much higher ceiling than Stewart in my opinion.
Daz Cameron definitely needs more minor league time. Send Stewart, Demmeritte, and Bonifacio to the minors. Let JaCoby Jones stay in CF and hope he actually makes it through a full season healthy and productive and sign some combination of Dahl/Rosario/Mazara and keep Reyes as a backup. If the Tigers hit on any one of them they have a trade chip at the deadline
As far as I know demmeritte and Stewart are already in the minors and bonifacio signed somewhere else. In my eyes Stewart is expendable. Jones and Reyes your everyday outfielders and sign one of those 3 to fill in the hole
This is funny because Dahl has a pulse and dhal is a pulse. Well done!
At the very least, they should reach out to Curt Casali. I cannot take another year of sub Mendoza level & poor defensive catching.
The Archie Bradley trade and non-tender within 3 months is so weird. No idea what to make of it, he wasn’t going to be that expensive.
Without actually researching recent stats/performance, there do seem to be a bunch of decent bullpen options on this list — Bradley, Brebbia, Cole, Stanek, Tepera, Wisler, Claudio, Shreve.
Brebbia had tommy john, wont be back until 2022.
I’d like to see the Braves sign Dahl and Duvall to platoon in LF. I suppose Dahl will be looking for a full-time gig, though. He’s from Birmingham, AL, so maybe the chance of being close to home would entice him.
Braves love to acquire those local boys.
Both Dahl & Duvall will sign with whoever offers them the most money. Shocking revelation!
Wouldnt mind seeing Dahl or Rosario in right field for the cards over Fowler, or Duvall or Schwarber at dh over matt carpenter
I’ll second that
Wouldn’t mind seeing almost anyone in the Cardinals outfield over the tripe they’ve been running out there the past few years. Bader, O’Neill and Fowler might have been the worst starting outfield in all of baseball.
Someone, one of the cards writers, I think goold, said it was the 3rd worst outfield stats of any cards outfield. EVER. If we had just one productive outfielder, I’m betting the cards would have went further in the playoffs. Fowler is a sunk cost, no one will take him. They have to play the best players or those 3 million butts in the seats will start to turn. I remember back in 95 before we got big mac, the team was bad, and it showed in the attendance. Might happen again
I think most Cardinal fans would take an OF of Bernard Gilkey, Ray Lankford, and Felix Jose at their current ages over the garbage they’ve been putting out there
Shreve to either of the Los Angeles franchises makes sense
Dahl, if healthy, could help any team, especially in the AL.
Pirates could add 6 or 7 of these guys to improve their team.
Phillies could rebuild their entire bullpen.
Mets in on Casali.
Indians need any outfielder.
Marlins need quality experience around the infield.
Man.
I’m *never* going to be able to remember all this.
probably not so much fun for the players, having to change teams and taking less money than usual, but for fans this could shape up to be quite an interesting offseason in terms of the sheer volume of transactions, and in the prospect of altering a club’s future. I’m looking at YOU, Phillies bullpen.
Looking at the Phillies bullpen causes gastro problems. Even the best of the lot (Hector Neris) ain’t that good. Should have claimed Brad Hand for $10 million. That would at least be a start in rebuilding the worst bullpen in MLB modern history.
Question. Dahl is an Alabama boy. Would the Braves be interested in asking Dahl for one of those 1 year “prove it” to play LF? Or is his injury history too much to gamble on??
Attention! It’s just one more way the owners are trying to convince the union & the public they po & it doesn’t help that most of these guys are overrated, over hyped, over priced bums. Wake up & smell the power steering fluid gentleman. As you were.
I’m not sure if this is 100% complete/accurate. In the previous post about NL non-tenders, they stated that the Giants non-tendered catcher Chadwick Tromp but he doesn’t appear on this list. Maybe he re-signed already?
Resigned on a minor league deal
Sox should sign Travis Shaw to a low risk high reward deal. I miss that guy and he is bound to bounce back.
To do what? Strikeout?
They already have Devers at 3B and Dalbec at 1B. Shaw is terrible at 2B and if the sox were going to go that route they would just let Chavis play 2B
Chavis wasn’t great last year either. I like Shaw because he’s a scrappy player. He had some good years with us and a couple good years with the Brewers. If he’s cheap and brings back his 2018 OBP numbers, it would be a great pick up.
Schwarber to A’s? Seems like it could be a fit if A’s can afford him. They usually like cheap all or nothing hitters on their roster.
Could make a nice expansion team or two with that.
Thoughts on Maikel Franco in a Brewers uniform?
Franco is better than most give him credit for being. Still under 30, the guy has pop and, for a guy with pop, he doesn’t strike out a lot. Just needs to be more selective at the plate and recite this mantra: “All contact is not necessarily good contact.”.
MLBTR should infuse the top of this list into an amended FA list
mlbtraderumors.com/2020/10/2020-21-mlb-free-agents…
Honestly nobody on this list should shock anyone especially in COVID 2020. Schwarber the biggest name on the list was scheduled to make $7.5-10M. For a bad defender that averaged just above 1.0 bWAR the last 5 some years that’s a no brainer non-tender IMO.
Bradley kind of surprised me. Schwarber is just a name since he really hasn’t been a good player. A lefty Chris Carter. Don’t know how good/bad Rodon has been, but just noticed him on there too.
The Cubs are in big trouble. Why keep Bryant for twice the money it would take to keep Schwarber? Starting pitching better hold up because the other areas are full of wholes. Rizzo and Baez are the only safe bet, and both of them spent last season with BAs hovering in the low .200s.
Ryan tepera must be the first player to get an mvp vote and be non tendered the same year lol
Rosario got one vote, too
Listed by former team would have been helpful, as well.
I like Kenyan Middleton as a reclamation project. If he can ever stay healthy, his stuff is nasty.
Schwarber has been a fantasy of Yankee fandom for quite awhile but he is more of what they already have! All or nothing no contact avg to poor defense.
So the Yanks also are looking to cut salary somehow. It’s not happening especially when they need to resign DJ and are stuck with Stanton contract.
Only see two options to lower payroll and open up a spot for another all or nothing bat.
Deal Hicks and Voit. Resign Gardner to play CF. Play Schwarber at first and some left field with Frazier. Now they have a more left handed lineup. They also free up some salary in Hicks and Voit. Not sure they are better overall but they now have some money to play with.
I would have loved to see the Yanks say no to the Marlins about getting Stanton just to see what the Marlins and Stanton would have done next.
That would absolutely make the Yankees worse.
Gardner is 37. He can still back up CF, but should no longer start there. He’s your emergency option, not your primary option. He’s a 4th OFer at this stage and that’s probably the role he’ll serve for them in ‘21. Hicks is a high OBP switch-hitting CFer, so removing him removes a lefty bat. Voit is the AL HR champ who has a 143 OPS+ since becoming a regular in 2018. Hicks’ and Voit’s combined salary in 2021 will be around $13-14M. A bargain. You don’t trade two starting players for the “honor” of adding Kyle Schwarber, who was just cut by his MLB team.
The Yankees the team (who cares what some fans want?) had an interest in Schwarber several years back prior to adding Stanton at DH and Voit at 1B. And no way would the Yankees consider Schwarber for their wide LF. Add it up and there’s no room at the Bronx inn for Kyle in 2021. Wouldn’t shock me if the Yankees kicked the tires on a low-cost deal, but he’ll wisely go where he’ll be guaranteed playing time and more money. Still a chance he returns to the Cubs.
As for the Yankees cutting payroll, we can listen to their words or judge them by their actions. They picked up Britton’s expensive club option this offseason and tendered Sanchez. That’s $18M right there. Doesn’t seem like the moves of a team looking to penny pinch.
To unload Hicks at this time they would probably need to eat some of his contract.
Some of these non-tenders make it appear as if baseball execs are fearing another limited capacity attendance situation in 2021.
If spring training is cut short or teams have to close facilities, teams may not want to guarantee big money deals for guys who need more time to get ready or coming off horrible seasons.
They should. While wide availability of a vaccine is expected in 2021, that may not begin until April, with June expected for full availability. Add in general caution by governments allowing large gatherings immediately, and fans being reticent to being packed in at parks, plus the lingering economic impact, means teams may still only be operating at 35-50% capacity.
We’ll have increasing attendance as the season progresses and packed ballparks for the postseason, but I wouldn’t expect things to return to mostly normal until 2022, and that assumes no strike/lockout and a new CBA. Teams incurred debt in 2020 and will have lower revenue in 2021. That will impact teams for a number of years.
Enough negative news already, let the FA signings begin!