2:08 pm: Glasnow’s MRI revealed a partial tear of his ulnar collateral ligament, as well as a flexor strain in his forearm, Adam Berry of MLB.com was among those to relay. It’s a brutal development, considering that UCL tears and flexor strains are often precursors to a Tommy John procedure. The current hope is that Glasnow can rehab the injury without surgery, relays Jeff Passan of ESPN, but it seems he’s in for a significant absence even in the best case scenario. The Rays haven’t released a formal timeline for his return, but he’s been placed on the 10-day injured list.
9:44 am: The Rays are sending Tyler Glasnow for an MRI on his elbow after the right-hander left last night’s start after four innings, Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times was among those to report. The team announced Glasnow’s issue as elbow inflammation, with the pitcher telling reporters he felt “a little tug” and “tightness” in the area.
It’s an ominous-sounding diagnosis, but Glasnow himself didn’t sound overly concerned. “I think I got it relatively early. I just was like, I don’t want to go back out and chance it,” he said (via Topkin). “The (velocity) and everything was still there. But it just felt not right.” He did note, though, that the issue was more than mere discomfort. Glasnow missed most of the 2019 season with a forearm strain and suggested there’s a possibility his current issue is similar.
Certainly, the Rays will be holding their breath as they await the results of the MRI. Glasnow is amidst a stellar season, having worked to a 2.66 ERA/2.83 SIERA. He ranks fifth among qualified pitchers in strikeout rate (36.2%) and sixth in strikeout/walk rate differential (28.2 percentage points). He’s also been a true workhorse for a Rays pitching staff that otherwise tends to heavily leverage matchups, as Glasnow is tied for second in the American League with 88 innings pitched.
Any type of elbow or forearm tightness often led to TJS in the past. I believe that’s less the case today since teams are extra cautious, immediately shutting down pitchers at the first sign of discomfort.
RIP he was so young
Sux to be a yankees fan don’t it?
No being a yankees fan is awesome i can think of 27 reasons why. Your team only cares about making money your stadium is a joke your uniforms are hideous just like your logo. But I still feel bad for glansnow being fan of a team that its absced with drafting players that just had TJS and thinks their outsmarting the rest of the league with this great strategy even though it hast worked once. Hope he’s fine I rather you guys win the division than the red sox.
I have to say, being a fan of different teams in a variety of sports, being a Yankee fan has always been enjoyable. The other sports, not so much.
So funny to see a Yankee fan joke about another team’s stadium when they have a softball field.
Even without Glasnow The Rays have owned the Yankees for the last 3 years. Who’s your’ Daddy! Can’t wait till we’re playing them again.
Fever Pitch Guy
Thoughts and prayers for a speedy recovery.
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The references to the Yankee Stadium “band box,” “kiddie park,” and now your “softball field” have never made sense to me. The stadium is the same dimensions for the visiting team, so any advantages the dimensions might afford are available to both teams. In fact, Cashman foolishly loaded up on right-handed hitters, so the advantage of the short porch should be greater for a visiting team with a more balanced lineup.
The issue with the Trop, as I see it, has nothing to do with the dimensions and everything to do with it being ugly and drab and fitted with catwalks hung with speakers that affect balls in play and necessitate ground rules that apply nowhere else in baseball. And there’s the artificial turf too.
However, I disagree with the sentiment that the franchise doesn’t care about winning. Since 2017, the Rays are fifth in wins in the majors, tied with Boston. If they don’t care about winning, imagine where they’d be if they did. If anyone doesn’t care about winning, it might be Hal Steinbrenner, who’s allowed Cashman to squander millions on bad contracts, yet he keeps him on the payroll while letting Boston snag an excellent GM in the person of Chaim Bloom.
They’re sure a ton of injuries to pictures this year sure a bad break for Glasgow
Baseball is like Hockey in that it had a few teams win many championships & those teams had a competitive advantage over many teams back in the day. I like how the Rays operate in that they get the most bang for their buck & are currently in 1st place in the division. They won’t win 27 championships in the next few decades & neither will the Yankees. The competitive balance in baseball is much more better.
The Rays also have pitchers Chirinos & Beeks rehabbing from their own TJS but they will be ready to go in 2022. The Rays can let Glasnow rest until August before they have him start rehabbing.
How could I predict that you would be stating THAT SAME VERY ANNOYING PHRASE. So many times you have decent/ good comments (even though I may not agree w them). However your ahem (signature) comment on injuries is as annoying as the voice of the actress who stared in The Nanny (Fran what’s her name).
Settle down, sweetheart
Here’s hoping that just missing a start or two will do the trick!
Platelet Rich Plasma injection, and rest.
Ummm hes gonna be sitting at least 2 months. Was watching Glassnow in the 2020 playoffs and last half after blowing away the Yankees with 102 constantly didn’t look so great I was wondering if he was sore then? He looked kinda flat and easy to hit against the Astros and Dodgers
Well, the rays may get to share their prospect wealth in the form of trading for a starter.
A hilarious, oblivious, and extremely uniformed comment. Our 6-10 is better than many. Good luck!
No, I think they’d more than likely just call up one or their young arms. Perhaps McKay as a stop gap. Not to mention using McHugh or Wacha in a more “bulk” sense. They are both capable of eating innings.
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Bartollo Colon and Ji Man Choi is a match made in heaven.
For baseball or Sumo wrestling?
Archer himself is starting to rehab but the Rays do have some capable pitchers to use. Any SP they acquire that might cost some top prospects will definitely need to have team control with them.
The Rays have great depth. I swear, it seems like in every game they have a 36-man active roster to other teams 26.
The Baseball Fan
Haha so true
Part of the reason they always seem to have a 20 man pitching staff is they almost never have a blow-up, where someone has to be removed in the 2nd inning and they gut it out the rest of the game, or they have to use 3 relievers to get through the 7th inning. Those are the staff killers, and because all Rays pitchers have such great stuff, it almost never happens to them. I bet there are at least 25 organizations who would kill to observe their pitcher development program in action for a month or two.
Are you unfamiliar with the “Opener” concept? They routinely have a “starting” pitcher go 1-2 innings, thus creating a bullpen day. The key is they have depth and relief pitchers that can go more than one inning.
Many teams have observed as 8 current managers and 6 executives in baseball not including countless scouts have all come from the Rays organization. It’s no secret.
Remember when Archer was traded and Tampa fans were disappointed? Now Glasnow is the big name and Archer has faded into obscurity. It is sad about Archer. He was a good pitcher and a great kid. I hope the best for him and Tampa will have both pitchers back as stars.
The Baseball Fan
This is bad news, saw the game and looked really uncomfortable. Thoughts and prayers, one of the best young talents of the next generation of ball players
This is the 2nd time he has had arm issues. Missed much of the 2019 season with forearm discomfort. Having elbow discomfort is not a good thing for him.
There are natural limits on the human capacity. To throw the ball as hard and with as much break as Glasnow, in the end, this is inevitable. Justin Verlander seems the only pitcher, to my recollection, to pitch at his limit, then ramp-up as needed. That approach even caught-up with JV, but years later than Glasnow. Verlander seemed to better understand his natural limits as an athlete. As a baseball fan, these injuries are genuinely frustrating.
Don’t think Ryan, nor Clemens ever had significant down times as very hard throwers, nor big injuries. Same with Gibson. Bob veale saved his for the end of his career and those guys all threw 100+ pitches per start with regularity.
Pitchers of today get treated like made of glass and seem to be made of to a big extent for whatever reason(s).
There were plenty of guys that hurt their arms over the years just like Glasnow and others. They are not household names because the injuries took them out out the game and there was no surgery to be able to have the chance to continue the careers. Gibson averaged only 91-92 on his fastball. Back in that day hitting 90 was like hitting 100 today. Very few hit 90 and if they did, they were throwing serious heat. Now everyone is able to throw 95+ and the breaking stuff like sliders were not in the 90’s either. The human arm is more glass when you are throwing that hard. Only a matter of time before it gives out. There are still rare ones like Clemens and Ryan that brought heat for long periods of time without major injury.
They get treated like they’re made of glass in the Majors, not Little League, high school, and college where most of the time the damage is done. Tommy John surgery is a reflection of years of overuse.
Bob Veale, one of my favorites. Remember him pulling out a huge handkerchief and cleaning his glasses while on the mound?
Yup! Big Bob Veale was a kid but still remember him.
Veale, Moose and Lamb
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One time he did that and Lou Brock would not get back into the batter’s box!
The first game I ever attended Veale beat the Mets for the season opening tying record tenth win without a loss.
Bob Prince said many times that Bob Veale could throw a strawberry through a locomotive!
Those were the days.
Seaver never missed a start in 22 years and Ryan didn’t hit the weights until late in his career, and only for his legs.
All this data, training snd pitch counts has only led to MORE injuries, not fewer.
I would be very curious as to how much weight training, especially pitchers, is involved for the professional leagues in other countries.
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I am a Pirates’’ fan but knew this day would come..I agree with 30 Parks,the human body is not meant to do this.TJ surgery is inevitable for almost every hard thrower which is pretty much every pitcher.
Hopefully Glasnow can come back to his recent pitching level.
I was also very much surprised that the Rays would spend $6.5 M on Archer with his recent injury history.
They are probably the one team that can afford this loss with their pitching depth that they have developed.
It’s so popular someone should make a song about TJ already.
Patino, Ryan, Rasmussen, Honeywell, and Baz all very capable fill ins but not quite Ace level yet.
It is incredible the amount of talented young pitching the Rays have now. They’ve lost tons of pitchers to injury over the past year, they let Morton go, etc… and they just keep plugging in new guys who immediately start to produce. I wasn’t huge on the Snell trade for them when it happened, but it’s already looking like another potentially brilliant move for them. Best run organization in the game. Fingers crossed on Glasnow, he is fun to watch pitch.
didn’t he already risk TJS back in 2019? This may be it for him.
Yes, i mentioned above earlier on this board that he missed most of the 2019 with forearm issues. This is definitely not good news for Tyler.
As a Yankees fan and one who dislikes the Rays, it is sad to hear this. This happens too many times.
shoot poor Glasnow. hoping for a speedy recovery and no TJS
Terrible news. Glasnow was going to be a contender for the Cy Young this year. I don’t expect him to be back this year. I just hope he can return to form next year. Oof.
Ducky Buckin Fent
Tanaka had the same thing back in ’14 with the Yanks & still hasn’t needed TJS. So it does happen. Masahiro got shut down for a few months that season, but was a reliable starter for 6 years after that & is still going strong in the NPB.
Hope something similar happens with Glasnow.
I’m no doctor but I’m assuming Tanaka’s more “junk ball” approach probably helped out a bit with being able to pitch through it. There might not be any correlation though and maybe rehab will work for Glasnow as well. Time will tell, you hate to see it.
Ducky Buckin Fent
No doctor here, either.
From what I’ve read breaking pitches put more stress on a pitchers elbow.
After the tear – however – he became a different pitcher. Pre-tear, he could routinely run his 4 seamer up to 97. After, he didn’t use it much & he didn’t break 94 anymore.
Which was a shame, because when he was at his peak – which we only saw for a brief time – Tanaka was flat out dominant.
Glasnow relies on his fastball speed and hard slider plus his curve. He would have to have a heck of a change in style and then find a way to get guys out.
Because he’s a thrower, not a pitcher – it will happen to them all….
This seems accurate for a number of pitchers.
Well not the update that Glasnow and the Rays were hoping for. Good luck to him.
The Rays will handle this fine.
“I mean didn’t Tanaka pitch like 3 years with partially torn UCL?? Couple PRP injections and some rest he’ll be back on the bump.” – But that was not what happened, TG went on to have TJS and was out until late July of 2022.
Kyle Gibson for Josh Lowe…make it happen
Reunite the Lowe bros in DFW
Glasgow this year has a career high in starts in his 6 years in the majors. I’m sure the Rays weren’t setting their expectations at 32 starts when he’s pitched over 100 innings once. Yes, it’s bad for him to be hurt. To think that the best run organization in baseball is not prepared for this outcome is silly. They will be fine. Hopefully, he will as well.
This is terrible news, Our best starting pitcher now! Glasnow said something very plausible: That the balls given him by some opposing teams were very slippery and slimy- Are they putting something on the balls given the Umps?. I’m sure teams would do this to INJURE TOP LINE PITCHERS! It has to stop! , Not to worry we will regroup and the Rays will find a way around these deceitful teams and win the 21 WS!
Is this a conspiracy theory you truly believe?
If we’re going all conspiracy theory, I’m going to say Glasnow is faking it and now has a year to figure out how to pitch without the sticky-icky /s
Timing of comment is interesting considering pitchers are being checked for substances. Maybe those substances helped his ridiculous spin rate
Yeah, it’s either foreign substances or the fact that each his fingers is a foot long that is responsible for his spin rate. I’m guessing it’s the latter.
Ouch. That really blows for Rays fans. He’s an awesome pitcher and they’re an awesome team.
So Glasnow is now blaming the crackdown on illegal substances for his injury, saying that the league can’t just tell everyone to stop using stuff in the ball, it completely changed the way he pitches…
Yeah, too bad because yes, they can tell you not to use stuff. I don’t know where Glasnow got his medical degree, but I’d need to be convinced that merely gripping the ball without illegal aids for one start would cause that injury. And if you can’t pitch without the stuff, maybe you shouldn’t be pitching in the big leagues at all.
Signed: a nerd who never lifted weights or did physical labor in his life
You might be right, but it’s completely irrelevant. I’m talking about his scruples, not his athleticism.
Okay Chaim, nows your chance to build a winner here in Boston. Tampa just lost their ace for at least 2 months, so time to go all in and win the division…no excuses!
What has to happen before the philosophy changes in baseball surrounding pitching? it’s throw as hard as you can blow out your elbow get tjs rehab and heal up we will see you in 2 years. it’s become a part of the game where people don’t care because it’s performed so frequently. Obviously major league ball clubs are doing their players a disservice.
Not to say that what you said is incorrect, but I think lot may go back to before these guys are even on big-league clubs as more specialized and/or played year-round as kids. There’s a good chance many pitchers already have some degree of damage or strain to their elbows by the time they sign their first professional contracts. Given this, it may be why we see more TJ procedures occurring on younger and younger players.
For the first time in his professional career, he was averaging more than 6 innings per start. He has never once thrown more than 125 innings at any level in his pro career. He was on pace for more starts in one season and nearly twice as many innings than he’d ever thrown.
Part of baseball’s biggest problem is pitchers are never taught to throw MORE innings with fewer pitches. So when they get to the majors and extended, pop, damage and lose 18 months to TJS.
It’s a shame, but when none of these players learn to do anything but max effort, it’s inevitable that something is going to break.
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I have always said that good placement and movement are similar to speed and keeps the pitcher active for much longer.Throwing all out on every pitch,along with all of the damage incurred before professional baseball,cause almost all of these serious injuries.
I do have to admit no medical training,but some of this seems to be just common sense.
Which is not so common anymore.
So the Pirates won the Archer trade right?
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No,but it will not be the worst trade in ML history either.
At least not yet!
So many of you are jumping all over Glasnow’s admission to using a foreign substance, calling him a cheater, etc. But if we could all just magically see a list of pitchers using something, I’d bet you’re opinions would change. So many of your favorite pitchers I’m sure have done exactly the same as Glasnow.
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No they wouldn’t.This is basically a moral issue and the vast majority of posters here have treated it as such.
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I’d like to know how Glasnow was mixing the sunscreen with rosin, as he alleges. Was it on the bill of cap or on his hair?
Throwing 100MPH repetitively can hurt you. Who knew?
And MLB is talking about moving back the mound at the same time that pitchers are dropping like flies from injuries. Genius.
‘I got hurt because I wasn’t allowed to cheat anymore.’
What a putz. He tries to blame his injury on not being able to cheat. I attribute any success he had to cheating.
I agree Koamalu