Padres shortstop Fernando Tatis Jr. left tonight’s game after sliding into third base and seemingly re-injuring his left shoulder, according to Dennis Lin of The Athletic.
There isn’t any word yet on the severity of the injury. But this is an issue that has been bothering Tatis on-and-off for the entire season. It first flared up in March, before the season even began. Tatis then appeared to re-aggravate the issue, landing on the IL April 6th. Thankfully, he was reactivated after a minimum 10-day stay, being reactivated April 16th. But then on June 19th, Tatis was again removed from a game with what seemed like another shoulder injury. Though Padres manager Jayce Tingler later said that the move was precautionary and Tatis did not end up going back on the IL.
Losing Tatis for any amount of time would be a serious blow to the Padres. They are currently holding down the last playoff spot in the National League, but have the Reds nipping at their heels, just 4 1/2 games back. The calendar will flip over to August on Sunday as teams will be pushing to make their final pushes for the postseason. Tatis has been superb this year, despite dealing with this ongoing injury. He’s produced a 165 wRC+ on the season so far on his way to accruing 4.7 fWAR, easily the best on the team. Tatis and Padres fans will surely be hoping this is just another precautionary measure.
Is that shoulder alwasy going to be a problem? I hope not
In the immortal words of Homer Simpson:
Doh!
Ha…ha?
This is the worst news since Washington wouldn’t accept Hosmer in a Scherzer deal
Can you really blame Washington? They’re clearly entering a mini rebuild at least. Why on earth would they want to pay Hosmer 60M to be subpar when a 2M/yr stopgap would put up similar numbers?
For a good prospect or 2. You said yourself they’re entering a rebuild so why not take on dead money
For one good prospect who’s in A ball if the rumors are true. You know SD was not kicking money in, or much.. the point was to stay below Lux tax
Look, a top 50 guy in A ball has the chance to be a top 10 guy by the time he’s MLB ready. But that’s multiple big hurdles SD was asking Wash to assume hed successfully make. The guy was drafted just last year
“I’ve seen this one before”
Seems as though the injury always seems worse then it is with him. Usually looks like he is going to be out awhile and the he wants to be in the lineup the next day. I hope this is the case again.
Yeah but this year it’s been his shoulder over and over again.
Those can take a long time to heal and if he keeps hurting it, eventually it will be more than a 10 day rest.
I would have rested him until June and focus on having him being healthy for the 2nd half.
When I said the Padres were being fast and loose with Tatis, people pointed out how wrong I was.
This doesn’t good on paper, if I was Tatis’ agent or parent I’d get multiple opinions and go with the most cautious one.
Even if I was with the team I’d point out that we have him signed for the next 13 years.
When Tatis partially dislocated his shoulder earlier this year, Padres fans heard from every Dodger fan about how horrible the injury was. Before McCourt told us that he would be out for 4 months minimum and that he would never be the same when he came back. Everyone can see how that prediction worked out.
I think the Padres will continue to listen to the advice of their doctors over random fans of opposing teams on the internet.
Funny how Tatis keeps hurting the same shoulder over and over and over again. Maybe he should listen to a Dr and get healthy. You think that’s going to help the Padres if he is out a few weeks. They are a 3rd place team with his in the lineup every day.
It worked out with Tatis injured again.
You’re argument looks flawed to me but I called this
I mean, a separated shoulder that I didn’t rehab properly ended my baseball career. I went from throwing in the low 90s my freshman year in college, to being barely able to throw in the 70s by my junior year.
Shoulders are finicky due to the wear and tear they take. They need time to heal, with proper rehab and PT. Tatis rushed himself and he got hurt again. If he doesn’t rehab it properly, he will continue to get worse and worse shoulder injuries until he’s unable to use it anymore.
Mine went from a simple impingement, to a separated shoulder, to a torn rotator cuff, to then a torn labrum and my body just couldn’t take the injuries anymore.
The only thing dumber than a schmidt-talking Yankee fan is a schmidt-talking Dodger fan. They’re like weeds on this site. You get rid of one and another dumbsky pops up.
Oh poor you. And the only thing dumber then us Dodger fans is you and your lame lingo using words like “schmidt” and “dumbsky.” Maybe it’s cause you are a child or maybe you are just lame yourself but all I get from your post is that it bothers you that the Dodgers and Yankees have better fan bases then your team.
John Smoltz talked about it tonight on mlb network. He had the same thing early in his career. Just worked on strengthening the muscles around it. Didn’t jeopardize his long career but had to deal with it
I assume it wasn’t his throwing shoulder?
No, it wasn’t his throwing shoulder. Healthy shoulders lock in place. His and Tatis’ slide
Got it. I was trying to figure out how he could control his pitches while his shoulder pops out.
It’s a non-throwing shoulder for Tatis too but he makes a living off swinging the bat and a bum left shoulder isn’t doing favors for his follow through
Which is precisely why he switched to a two-handed follow through earlier this year.
Cronenworth shifts to ss and Frazier to 2B. Hopefully it’s not too serious.
Lmao and people call Trea Turner injury prone
Trea Turner IS injury prone. He’s had one full year and that’s it. Buyer beware. Same with Buxton.
@Louboltz22 How many days in his entire professional career (both minor and major league) has Trea Turner spent on the IL due to non-HBP related injuries?
Why are you removing HBP injuries? Its more a part of the game than anything else.
HBP injuries that lead to small broken bones have a near zero likelihood to reoccur. They are random acts within the game. They happen, but randomly.
Claiming someone is injury prone is largely to suggest you think they’ll miss future games. Why would a HBP 5 years ago cause Turner to miss games in August 2021? Now a barking shoulder that’s been hurt 3x in 4 months..
Truly I hope this is another Tatis scare nothing more. Winning because someone else’s superstar got hurt isn’t nearly as fun. To me at least
Simple answer, he’s afraid to be proven wrong so he creates a pseudo reality where he will be right by adding a caveat to his argument.
@oldmansteve and @Faith in the Padres see BeforeMcCourt’s comment.
Because that’s not being prone to injury when hit by a pitch. Prone to injury is when one sustains injuries more often than others when doing what others do routinely, without sustaining the same level/quantity of injuries.
HBP is an anomaly that is completely out of everyone’s control and cannot be measured consistently, for a variety of reasons, like making running plays, or running the bases can. For example, Stanton, minus any and all HBP, is injury prone.
This is worse news than the Guardians trading for Pablo Sandoval and then having him never wear an Indians uniform.
….because there was no jersey big enough?
Ha because fat! Bravo!
The Who? Oh, the Indi….Guardians.
Eddie was just a salary dump.
Did you notice the similarity between the Cleveland Guardians logo and the Gatorade logo?
Yeah neither one is relevant anymore.
Lil’ Sweet seems to be drawn to the dramatics. If his shoulder is always gonna be an issue why not just go in and fix it already? I’m never one to be pro surgery but I’m sick of seeing this guy come up holding that shoulder.
I’m not sure if surgery will fix it. Rest and strengthening around it is probably all that can be done. Not 100% positive
Cody Bellinger had his shoulder surgically repaired this past offseason for the same reason. He’d dislocated his shoulder on multiple occasions, diving in the field at 1B. In fact, that was a reason he shifted to the outfield, to avoid the dive toward the baseline on batted balls.
Once it pops out, it’s apparently easier for it to happen again.
You only say that so he will be done for the season. If he can play through it and get the surgery in the offseason, that’s the route he’ll take.
Last time I checked he just needs some time off and still leads the lead in homers and steals with good defense at the toughest position. With all due respect to deGrom, Trout, Guerrero, Acuna and Soto, Tatis Jr. is the face of the game. Everyone wants him to do well even the fans who want San Diego to miss the playoffs.
He leads the league in HR’s and still plays for a 3rd place team.
At least he doesn’t troll the internet to avoid his third-rate wife.
Mr Fragile
24 hours ago had this happened Bryant or Baez would now be a Padre.
The Padres could have had Trevor Story for a mid-range prospect, too.
“I said oh no no I’ve been through this movie before” – Bob Dylan
Honestly, I feel for Padres fans. They thought they were “inches” away from getting Max Scherzer and Trea Turner, but instead they went to division rivals. Tonight they’ve lost one of the most electric players in MLB, Fernando Tatis Jr., and they’re losing to the Rockies 8-0.
Trea Turner wasn’t going to be in the Padres deal.
Dodgers just lost 6-5 with Jimmy Nelson on the mound in the 10th.
As a Dodgers fan, Trea Turner is great, but he is no Fernando Tatis, Jr. It is like calling Bryce Harper better than Mike Trout, not the case.
But Scherzer and Turner are enough to make the Dodgers the best team in MLB even without much of a bullpen. It is clear that Julio Urias will need to be the post-season closer again for a repeat championship.
Bellinger is garbage
Amen to that. Dodgers should ship Bellinger out for 2 mid level minor leaguers and move on. $14 million to hit .160 is garbage.
@Mr_KLC It later came out that the Scherzer to Padres deal was never close. Some reporter jumped the gun.
Remove (non-parody) is making rumors of rumors now. Bravo. Well, your made-up rumor isn’t true. I heard from a friend that her friend’s uncle’s nephew’s boyfriend’s doctor’s wife, who works security for the Nationals, that she overheard that the deal to the Padres WAS in place and that it even included Turner who the Padres were going to trade to a third team. But the often-injured Turner failed the physical and the deal was nixed by the Padres.
* actually my apologies — I mean to type “the oft-injured, injury-prone Trea Turner” and not “the often-injured Trea Turner.” Once again, my apologies if I have hurt anyone with my words.
@RemoveWhitePitchersFromTheRecordBooks (parody) Are you going to change your username and tell yourself that your comment was funny like you did on this thread?
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Still with the grudge. It was OVER two years ago. Get over it.
Oh, you win. I will say this publicly: I apologize if I hurt your feelings. I mean that. Now can we please move on to belittling each other in new and improved ways?
@RemoveWhitePitchersFromTheRecordBooks (parody) I’m not belittling you. I genuinely wanna know why you do it. Like, how do you process it?
Well they keep Letting him play with a shoulder that obviously needs surgery
It may not though. With shoulder injuries, once invasive surgery is conducted the shoulder rarely returns to 100%. Strengthening his muscles to simply stabilize his shoulder more naturally is far more preferable and effective, according to most doctors, trainers, and players. See comment above for user’s reference to John Smoltz as well.
The sky is falling, and a couple weeks from now we will be playing .600 ball.
Yep and you will still be a 3rd place team. You haven’t played .600 ball all year long. Typical Padre fan, always talking the big talk and never producing anything but hot air.
Dodgie junior — Do you type anything besides “3rd place team.” You’ve written it a good half dozen times on this thread alone. Do you just get drunk and troll Padres fans the whole night long? Is that the meaning of your existence? You’re not even funny about it. Just kinda pathetic.
I guess Dodger JR was so worried about the Padres that he’s happy about being in 2nd Place?
I saw this play and asking anyone else didn’t anyone besides me think it was a sliding wrist injury.
Lol that’ll teach him for showboating because he really need to quit doing that. Tatis? Meet Karma. Treat it nicely or you’ll be in for a surprise. Well, you already are in one now.
talk about bad timing. if it happened one day before they could have traded for Trevor Story.
Would Story still be confused?
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Dodgers getting Trea Turner and Max Sherzer will make the Dodgers pretty difficult to defeat. I prefer to see a team that has never won a title get one this year.
The Padres, Brewers and Rays all have never won a title.
I think the odds are highest for the Brewers and Rays. If the Padres are going to make a run they need Tatis.
Really wow that’s some enlightening thoughts
20 errors is superb
If was the coaching staff of the Padres I would telling Tatis and teach him to slide feet first instead of diving head first that way it would save him from injuring his arm and shoulder and my be elbow.
He’s going to need to have that shoulder taken care of this offseason, unless he wants to have four trips to the IL every year. They’ll likely only become more frequent as he ages. The game is more interesting with Tatis, deGrom, etc. healthy and playing.
Tatis is the opposite of a hot dog. If you think that, stop. There have been few like him in any human endeavor. All the top skills and passions somehow given to one person.
If he can think it, his body does it. Talent like we’ve never seen. He is very large, not like Ohtani but much bigger than you think. Those ligaments are severely tested. Fast, nimble, can somehow still throw 95 over to first even given his lifelong genetic ligamentous laxity. Very smart.
No else could change their swing in a day and go from great to greater, while just trying to keep a shoulder in its socket. He has exuberance for baseball like no other.
He isn’t stupidly reckless, he’s a kid. Huge loss the time one of these episodes is the last. So I’m taking it in while we can.
Unfortunately of the 3 injuries this year this one seem the most violent and sever of the 3. April he injured it striking out, June he dove and injured it but seemed to be fine walking off the field not favoring the shoulder. This one he slide and injures his shoulder and then jams it into the ground again and is seen holding his arm as he walks off the field.
Also every time you reinjure the shoulder you risk doing more damage to the anterior labrum that may make it more difficult to repair. If I were Tatis Jr. I would just get it fixed, he’s got a long career to go playoff hunt or not, And yes I am an Orthopedic Surgeon who has done a Sports Medicine Fellowship so this is what I do for a living.
There is no doubt that Fernando Tatis Jr. is one of the top generational talents right now, but he seems like he can never stay healthy. Tatis seems to always injuries his shoulder and from my understanding he had shoulder issues in the minor leagues. In a way it seems like the Padres might have prematurely give Tatis that long term deal since he can never stay healthy. Time will only tell if Tatis can learn with not putting his body at risk with making a slide like that in the near future but his injury can be very costly for the Padres right now since they are in a playoff race and put a lot on the line to be a contender this year.
Idk…looked like a hustle play and a good slide. Just not a preferred slide for someone nursing a shoulder injury. Being more conservative at that point in the game may have been a better approach but he’s young and gifted and won’t learn what his limits are unless he pushes the envelope once in a while.
The aggressive play is most successful when it is unexpected.
An anticipated aggressive play also may effect an opposing player who has to hurry or think past the play at hand…
Thing is, the Padres had two aggressive plays result in outs at the plate then this Tatis thing all within a span of 3 games.
The scouting reports are in. Maybe time for a different approach that causes upheaval. Deke-outs and false starts on a tag up to get hurried throws into dugouts might be a start. Get the extra base with lower risk.
Amazing how some players hustle style of play gets them criticized but when they don’t hustle they get criticized.
Can’t win.
John Lennon said something to that effect, I believe
Which contract will look like a bust first tatis or yelich? Guys sign these massive contracts and getting hurt on a high note but when healthy they play well.
Tatis is 340 and Yelich 188