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Trevor Story “Confused” By Lack Of Trade

By Darragh McDonald | July 30, 2021 at 11:16pm CDT

Rockies’ shortstop Trevor Story is “confused” after not being traded before today’s deadline, according to Patrick Saunders of The Denver Post. “I don’t have really anything good to say about the situation and how it unfolded,” Story says.

Story has been often mentioned as a logical trade candidate, given the fact that he’s a pending free agent on a non-competitive club. Even here at MLBTR, Steve Adams placed Story 7th on a list of top trade candidates just a few days ago, noting that it was unlikely the club would hang onto him, though admitting there was a slight chance of the club hanging onto the slugger and making him a qualifying offer at year’s end. That appears to have been the thinking in the Colorado front office.

“With what we were offered, we thought the (competitive balance) pick was better suited for us and we could have Trevor on our team for another two months,” general manager Bill Schmidt said. The White Sox, Rays and Blue Jays apparently made offers that didn’t match up to that draft pick, at least in the estimation of Schmidt and his team.

Perhaps the offer were somewhat dulled by Story’s subpar season. His wRC+ of 84 is well below his marks over the past three years, which all ranged between 117 and 128. But given that his strikeout and walk rates are in line with previous years and his BABIP is way down, some teams surely could have believed that regression was due. Regardless, Story will remain a Rockie for two more months, with his seeming frustration with management not boding well for their chances at re-signing him in free agency.

Jon Gray, another impending free agent, also remains a member of the club after the deadline. Saunders notes that Gray “wants to stay in Colorado” and the club has “begun preliminary talks about a new contract with him.” It will be interesting to see if such talks are able to come to fruition. Gray is having an excellent season, with his current 3.67 ERA tied for a career-best, especially impressive in the thin Colorado air. Normally, it might be tough to get a player to sign an extension when he’s so close to free agency and enjoying a solid platform year, although Gray has quite recently expressed interest in remaining in Colorado long term.

That desire comes despite the fact that the Rockies are at least 15 games behind each of the Giants, Dodgers and Padres. All three of those teams seem to have enough talent and resources to be well-positioned to continue playing at high levels into the future. With the already-struggling Rockies poised to lose a talent like Story, and perhaps Gray as well, it’s hard to envision them gaining so much ground on their competitors.

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  1. jonbluvin

    4 years ago

    The Rockies front office is just confused.

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    • Gothamcityriddler

      4 years ago

      The Rockies are -BY FAR- the worst run team in MLB & and possibly all of professional sports. I find it extremely amusing how out of touch & incompetent they really are & once I’m confident they can’t sink any lower or piss their fanbase off anymore, somehow they manage to drain a little bit more out of the pool. Blaze on Colorado, blaze on. Ahahahahaha!

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      • Free Palestine

        4 years ago

        The Rockies don’t care about winning a championship.

        They’re focused on fourth place in the division, for ev er

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          4 years ago

          Why knock the organization without knowing the offers for Story? why they didn’t trade him immediately after the Cardinals’ deal is a fair question but now? They want the compensatory pick and unless the offers come out, I don’t see how anyone can evaluate things on this move or non move. The fact that Gray wants to stay is a plus. I was even hoping Boston would have taken both given they reset last season regardless if Story was a good fit.

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          If Gray wants to stay so bad I imagine they would have an easy time trading him then bringing him back

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        • Free Palestine

          4 years ago

          It’s the front office’s job to maximize value.

          I wasn’t referring to only Story and Gray either.

          They’re front office has been bad since I can remember.
          This is about years of mismanagement.
          I honestly don’t get how you can stick up for them.
          I genuinely feel bad for Rockies fans and I root for a division rival

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        • sportznut1000

          4 years ago

          Heres the thing, how often do we ever get to hear what the offers are? So if we can’t knock an organization for not trading guys, than what are we even doing here? You make it seem like he should wait 2 more weeks for the “missed trade offers report” to come out.

          2nd: While i agree that holding out for a compensatory pick is a good move if you do not like the return, Story was not the only guy who was not dealt. I know this is a Trevor Story article but i believe Givens was the only player who was moved before the deadline. At least commit to the sell like the cubs and nationals did if you are going to be sellers. Daniel Bard or Cj Cron are not going to bring back compensatory picks

          3rd: the rockies are still paying their best player in franchise history to play for another team

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        • outinleftfield

          4 years ago

          @crypto Didn’t the Rockies go to the playoffs in consecutive seasons recently.

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        • SodoMojo90

          4 years ago

          They went…

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      • jdodson1822

        4 years ago

        Arte Moreno is on line one

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          @derail76 Hopefully the new owner bites the bullet and trades Trout

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        • Vizionaire

          4 years ago

          do dodgers have their own parking lots?

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        • tstats

          4 years ago

          Trade trout?????????? Please don’t, next you’re gonna say let Ohtani walk in FA… that wouldn’t be good at all and the angels would be turning into the Rockies of the AL

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        • Vizionaire

          4 years ago

          that would be the dumbest move. what he/she has to do is improve scouting and development. improve living conditions including dorms and improved nutrition.

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        • whynot 2

          4 years ago

          Hey grandpa calm down, the poor guy was just trying to make a joke. Can’t believe someone actually thought it was anything but that

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        • DODGER JR

          4 years ago

          Have. you seen his wife? NO THANKS

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        • DODGER JR

          4 years ago

          Trout is going NO WHERE. He had his chance to leave in FA and chose to stay on a sinking ship so Trout gets what he deserves.

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        • SalaryCapMyth

          4 years ago

          May we all be punished in such a way for making “bad decisions”. I’ll be awaiting my multi hundred million dollar contract.

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        • Murphy NFLD

          4 years ago

          You would never get faur value for him. I mean just for the sake of the argument what team is going to trade 2 roster players and there top 5 prospects. I mean 1.5 Berrios yrs got the 16th and 68th prospect today. What does 5+ of trout get. It just would never happen unless you could trade draft choices like in other sports

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        • Braves4Ever2025

          4 years ago

          Sex is NO JOKE to the incels on this forum

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        • Chief Two Hands

          4 years ago

          @derail76
          That is, technically, the therapeutic treatment.

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        • Texas Outlaw

          4 years ago

          Ugly women need loving too

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        • Chief Two Hands

          4 years ago

          Yeah…that line is long and smelly, but as a hulk, you are likely aware of that unfortunate fact.

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        • BaseballBrian

          4 years ago

          Or find some tapes of him smoking crack or going on a racist rant.

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        • Special Agent

          4 years ago

          Lol. Savage.

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        • phenomenalajs

          4 years ago

          Or set his daughter up to date someone that provokes him to say something racist while being recorded a la Donald Sterling…

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        • sportznut1000

          4 years ago

          Am i missing something? How is Arte Moreno considered a bad owner? Or the worst run team in baseball?

          The guy has spent over a billion dollars on a handful of free agents. It will take 50 years for the Pirates and A’s to hit a billion spent on big free agents

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        • sportznut1000

          4 years ago

          Damn you guys are brutal. So if Moreno had decided not to pay Trout, then what? He would be the worst worst owner?

          Or what about if he did not want to pay for Ohtani?

          You guys have the 2 most exciting players in baseball on your team, the owner signed off on paying both of them and you want to complain about how you have the worst owner?

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        • VegasSDfan

          4 years ago

          Sad how divisive things have become

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        • BeforeMcCourt

          4 years ago

          … that’s the best you got?

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        • redmatt

          4 years ago

          Exactly. He gets to make $300 million or so playing where he wants to play. I guess he does deserve that.

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        • jdgoat

          4 years ago

          You literally just say buzzwords and don’t actually ever contribute any intelligent dialogue. You continue to make everybody more stupid when you bring your politics into sports threads. You get zero points for this troll attempt and should continue to be ashamed.

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        • sergefunction

          4 years ago

          Exact same today as always. Human nature is sadly consistent on that untoward aspect.

          Only difference is access to parental basement modems and routers, as The Universe was previously spared some guy finding hilarity in a Tatis injury, or the most dangerously ill-informed of us super-spreading fatal ignorance. Or instantly finding the pic of someone’s famous from any place on Earth.

          We are pretty close in base instincts now as always. Go to newspapers.com and pick a random date from recorded history. Any date at all. Scan a few pages from anywhere. Within seconds you’ll see reports of cruelty the likes of which you could never think up.

          And funny things. Many kind things. Dull as heck stuff. We remain as we always were, and apparently always will be.

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        • CalcetinesBlancos

          4 years ago

          billysbballz-

          What you said is incorrect. I’m not arguing. To actually believe such a simplistic, asinine statement is real, you have to be actively seeking out echo chambers and ignoring all information that you “disagree with” or makes you uncomfortable.

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        • AngelsAdvocate

          4 years ago

          Trout is untradeable with that contract.

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        • dpsmith22

          4 years ago

          really? I think this is first time I have ever heard ‘libs paying for small business’. middle class people pay, not the rich. The rich, in case you haven’t noticed are majority liberal not conservatives. Your badly informed.

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        • dpsmith22

          4 years ago

          facts.

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        • dpsmith22

          4 years ago

          why? Professional sports is bringing politics into sports every day. Do you think the AS game was moved from ATL to Col for the good of the game?

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        • JoeBrady

          4 years ago

          Yup. I think he could still be moved, but the days of him being a great value are numbered, imo. He’s only averaged 133 games for the four years of 2017-2020, And obviously far worse this year, And his peripheral stats are starting to decline.

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        • Yankee Clipper

          4 years ago

          Dpsmith22: Not worth engaging. It’s literally their religion you’re speaking about. There is no reasoning with them and it’s not worth the argument. You can cite facts upon facts and it will be promptly ignored in favor of their faith in their party being “better.”

          Such is the way of the country which is why we are so divided. It’s unfortunate that MLB has decidedly taken to one political affiliation in an attempt at appeasement for the special interest groups, but, like most people who prioritize money, they privately vote against the very same ideologies. It’s all a mess, which is why politics should never cross with sports.

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        • ltully789

          4 years ago

          You so-called “facts” are nothing of the sort – which is why you are unable to cite a single source for your nonsense. But then again, your post is indicative of an IQ roughly equivalent to the average high temperature in Nome, so no one is expecting cogent analysis or factual support from you.

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        • Mrivers

          4 years ago

          Tatis is faaarrrrr more exciting than Trout.

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        • Pageup

          4 years ago

          Your b.s. “statistics” come from where?

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        • VegasSDfan

          4 years ago

          Liberal here. Just wanted to remind you that we won the election in 2020.

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        • Phree4u

          4 years ago

          You would get massive salary relief and a couple lottery tickets.

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        • Phree4u

          4 years ago

          ASG was moved because MLB is most definitely a political arm.

          Was all about politics… Weirdest part is that Colorado has more restrictive voting laws than Georgia imposed.

          MLB obviously gets money and tax breaks from those on a certain side of the fence in DC.

          The reasons they cite for the move are comical at best.

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        • JoeBrady

          4 years ago

          It was stupid, and offensive to half the people in this country. We have some of the loosest voting regulations in the world.

          And that’s fine, if that’s what you want. This is why we vote; to determine what laws we want as a society.

          What we DON”T do is to have Corporate America use its money to affect local politics.

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        • SodoMojo90

          4 years ago

          No he’s not. Moreno is allergic to pitchers that only pitch

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        • SodoMojo90

          4 years ago

          And this has to do with MLB rumors how? Go find a different forum, moron.

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        • outinleftfield

          4 years ago

          That’s funny @marciabrady. They do it every single day.

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        • SodoMojo90

          4 years ago

          I think the point he’s making is that he could’ve got that contract from anybody and got away from the angels, yet chose to stay

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        • Phillies Phan

          4 years ago

          This is actually not true.

          Maybe people who voted Democrat in general but the vast majority of far left and even of liberal types come from comfortable backgrounds, and many in fact have high paying jobs. They just play poor/working class. Almost none of them actually are.

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        • Phillies Phan

          4 years ago

          So you view politics as a team thing then.

          Congrats on destroying this country through partisanship.

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        • DJ-VJ

          4 years ago

          You barely won tbe presidential election against a clown.

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      • toddkirchenberg

        4 years ago

        Gotham, Pirates might have a word to say. I’d almost say Angels too. Two of the best players and they can’t do anything to get above .500. They fail a lot. And then there are the Lions and the Jets.

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      • inkstainedscribe

        4 years ago

        It’s sad because there’s a great fan base IF the team looks like it’s trying to put a good product on the field.

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      • nelsonj6

        4 years ago

        I think that award goes to the pirates.

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      • 2020Sucks 2

        4 years ago

        No, as far as professional American sports teams that would be the Texans.

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      • meckert

        4 years ago

        Long suffering Mets fan here so I know clueless ownership and management when I see it. This franchise is hopeless.

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      • Raps902420

        4 years ago

        The buffalo sabres exist, so no, Colorado is not the worst run team in pro sports

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        • SodoMojo90

          4 years ago

          The Detroit Lions exist too

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      • axisofhonor25

        4 years ago

        I’m sorry man but the Pirates got that title in terms of worst run organization and it’s not close.

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      • Friarfugg

        4 years ago

        @Gothamcityriddler I find your comment very inconsiderate and offensive to Pirates fans.

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    • ctyank7

      4 years ago

      Confused? How about delusional. Look at what the Cubs and Nats hauled in for their walk-year players.

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    • User 355748524

      4 years ago

      Think about it … the Rockies manager and his staff were hired by the previous GM

      There are likely multiple individuals working in baseball operations who Jeff Bridich (Rockies GM from 2014 to 2021) was and/or is responsible for bringing them on-board.

      Then you have that very person depart from his post and be replaced by a Interm GM, who is not guaranteed to remain in his temporary post, when the season is 20 games in.

      I can tell you that it does not make for a well oiled machine.

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    • Yankee-4-Lifer 75

      4 years ago

      @jonbluvin- you got that right. The Rockies really screwed their fans over by not trading Story or Jon Gray yesterday. Gray is better then Berrios. They definitely would of brought in a haul of prospects. The Yankees would of parted with at least 2 top prospects. And 2 or 3 prospects in their 15-20. Smh.

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      • Phree4u

        4 years ago

        Maybe the fact is this.

        Trevor story is overrated with absurb Coors field bias and also declining in skills fast.

        He isn’t worth more than a compensatory pick which is why that’s all he’s going to net for Colorado.

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    • Redwolves3

      4 years ago

      Rockies management is a joke. No chance Story resigns with Colorado. No way Story accepts qualifying offer. He will become free agent and move on to a team that really wants and appreciates him.

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    • 4thefences

      4 years ago

      Exactly! Monfort was busy counting gate receipts from those who continue to pad his pockets. Coors Field and the surrounding area is a social event. Baseball is secondary to the Monfort Bros and the dysfunctional front office.

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      • donotinteruptMYkungfu

        4 years ago

        Baseball needs more sports owners NOT business men with bean counters…

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    • amazing larry

      4 years ago

      Hell, they could’ve traded CJ Crom as well. At least something to build that farm system.

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  2. davidk1979

    4 years ago

    Aren’t we all?

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    • Chief Two Hands

      4 years ago

      Regarding the Rockies…yes.

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  3. EliMorganFanClub

    4 years ago

    I’m right there with ya Trev

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  4. jdgoat

    4 years ago

    Well Trevor, the simple answer would be that the organization that employs you is incompetent.

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    • Samuel

      4 years ago

      Could be.

      Or it could be that other FO’s saw how Story’s “superstar” former teammate is faring in St. Louis and how he’s helped that team get over the top.

      Sorry, but when teams trade for impact hitters out of Coors Field and have them play their home games elsewhere…….well…..lots of data over the years…….

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      • jdgoat

        4 years ago

        Arenado is currently hitting 4% better than his career average outside of Coors.

        I don’t think any team is expecting them to put up their gaudy numbers once they leave Coors anyways. I don’t think teams are dumb enough to not believe in basic science.

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        • Chief Two Hands

          4 years ago

          The majority of the human race is “dumb enough” to believe in anything which contradicts basic science.

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        • meckert

          4 years ago

          Science? Data? Facts? I remember those from the olden days.

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      • Lanidrac

        4 years ago

        Whatever problems the Cardinals have, Arenado isn’t one of them.

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      • Lanidrac

        4 years ago

        Yes, there is a lot of data over the years like Larry Walker, Matt Holliday, D.J. LeMaheiu, etc. They all continued to succeed after they left the Rockies.

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      • DODGER JR

        4 years ago

        Over the top at 52-51 and 9 games out of first. That is over the top? LOL

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        • WarkMohlers

          4 years ago

          @Dodger JR. that’s the joke.

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      • Special Agent

        4 years ago

        Small sample size, Sammy.

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      • 1984wasntamanual

        4 years ago

        Or it could be that Story hasn’t been good this year. He’s on pace to be a slightly better than average player and he’s getting paid $17.5m for the year. Not a whole lot of value there, even if the Rockies picked up whatever is still left on it for the year.

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      • outinleftfield

        4 years ago

        That data would be that most players that leave Coors in their prime continue to rake.

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    • Goku the Knowledgable One

      4 years ago

      Hey Trevor your poor attitude has made you worth less than a comp-A pick

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      • dpsmith22

        4 years ago

        whoever signs him will do better than the Mets with Lindor.

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      • outinleftfield

        4 years ago

        His .240 BA and plummeting power numbers helped make him not worth much in trade.

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  5. Deleted_User

    4 years ago

    Not trading Story, Gray and Cron was a 100% commitment to QOing them if they don’t sign extensions.

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    • HalosHeavenJJ

      4 years ago

      Cron would jump at a QO. There’s no way they offer him one.

      Story could also take it. His platform year sucks and the free agent market is flooded. He could take a $20 million or so one year deal and look to take next year when he’d be the biggest free agent

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      • Deleted_User

        4 years ago

        @HalosHeavenJJ They basically have to QO Cron. Otherwise what was the point of not trading him?

        And there’s no way Story accepts a QO. He clearly wants out of Colorado.

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        • Mattimeo09

          4 years ago

          Getting $20M on a 1 yr deal or getting a 2 yr deal that probably won’t add up to $20M.

          Story could easily view the QO as a $20M do over.

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        • cookmeister 2

          4 years ago

          Maybe no team wanted him?

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        • Dorothy_Mantooth

          4 years ago

          No way Cron gets a QO. He’s an $8M/yr player at best.

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      • Veejh

        4 years ago

        I’d sign Trea Turner all day over Story.

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      • MLB Top 100 Commenter

        4 years ago

        No way that Cron gets a QO. He will be lucky to get an AAV of half that sum. Toglia might be almost as good.

        Story will get a QO. Story is having a down season so I predict that the Rockies will resign him at 6 years and $120 million. Some opt-outs involved. Win-win.

        Hard to say that Rockies are worst-managed team in baseball but I think that we can all agree that they are in the bottom two or three. It really is unusual to have three of the best six teams of all of MLB in your division. The Cardinals have Arenado and if you made them play in Denver and the Rockies in St. Louis could you tell which team is better. And St. Louis is relying on pasdt their peaks guys like Waino and Goldie who are studs now but will be marginal in a couple years.

        Not a Rockies defender, they should have kept renado to at least give their fans something to enjoy, but even if he had still been on their team, they would have been a distant fourth in that division with a sub 0.500 record.

        Hard to believe that Rockies could not pick Mears or Ona off of Padres for Story, but if they end up with the compensatory pick they might get comparable talent.

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          @MannyBeingMVP They basically have to QO Cron otherwise they lose him for basically nothing.

          If it wasn’t already obvious that Story is gone after this season, this article should be all the evidence you need.

          The Padres didn’t need Story. But they could have (and probably should have) worked something out for Jon Gray.

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        • 1984wasntamanual

          4 years ago

          St. Louis is above .500. Even if you factor in that they play other central teams, I think you could probably still see the difference between them and Col.

          Disagree with you on trading Arenado, that was the right move. The stupid move was giving him that extension in the first place.

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      • Special Agent

        4 years ago

        Story has burned the bridge. He ain’t coming back.

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      • Mrivers

        4 years ago

        He won’t though. From his words he sounds done with the Rockies management.

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      • mrmackey

        4 years ago

        That might not work out badly for the Rockies because if he can have a better 2022 he’ll bring back more at the trade deadline.

        They want to extend Gray.

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          @mrmackey Why not trade Gray then re-sign him as a FA? That way they get Gray AND prospects!

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      • Ryan ryan

        4 years ago

        This is what I’ve been thinking about and wondering how this was considered in the FO. Seems presumptuous to assume he won’t just accept the QO to make big $ for 1 year and bet on himself and hope he plays a little better.

        But from the Rox standpoint, at one year older and again on a 1 year deal, can they really expect to get better trade offers with him 1 year older?

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    • davidk1979

      4 years ago

      No way are they offering Cron a qualifying offer

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      • Deleted_User

        4 years ago

        @davidk1979 They basically have to. Otherwise what was the point of not trading him?

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        • bigdaddyt

          4 years ago

          To sell them Cron jerseys. They don’t have to do anything can always just let him walk for nothing

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        • mlb1225

          4 years ago

          If they offer him a QO, he’ll accept it. At that point, it might be even harder to trade him because salary.

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        • Daynlokki

          4 years ago

          There’s no way they are offering around $20m for a dude hitting under .250

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        • brewsingblue82

          4 years ago

          Cron I believe is injured at the moment, meaning the offers for him likely weren’t all that great. You already have a frustrated fan base, trading him away for nothing and further tanking the year wouldn’t of looked good. But there’s no way they offer Cron a QO. I do believe story is gone regardless.

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          @bigdaddyt If you aren’t contending a player walking as a FA is a worst case scenario.

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          @mlb1225 Then why not trade him?

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        • bucketbrew35

          4 years ago

          To have decent production at first during a long rebuild. They will most likely retain him in some manner and want to build good will. But there is no way a QO is on the table.

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          @Daynlokki Then why not trade him?

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        • ABCD

          4 years ago

          Consider Michael Cuddyer getting the QO. He didn’t take it, but got a worse deal to sign with the Mets. And he was better than Cron who is an average player.

          I think Cron would be smart enough to take the QO after seeing it backfire on first baseman corner outfield types who did not.

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          @brewsingblue82 Literally any offer would have been better than losing him for nothing which is what will happen if they don’t QO him. Losing him for nothing will piss off the fantasy even more.

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          @bucketbrew35 Trading him doesn’t mean they can’t retain him. Nice try tho.

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          @Trade Fiasco Then why not trade him?

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        • kiwimlbfan

          4 years ago

          Did they ask for too much? Rolled the dice and lost thinking other teams would empty the bank for their players?

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        • mlb1225

          4 years ago

          I’m not saying they shouldn’t have traded him. I’m just saying that offering him a QO in the hopes of trading him isn’t going to happen. QU’ing Cron and him accepting it essentially means the Rockies got another year of Cron. The chances he would get traded are slim because there won’t be too many teams willing to take on his remaining salary at the 2022 trade deadline. Then he walks for nothing. The better option would be to let him go in FA and then try and resign him on a cheaper deal. That way, they can have another opportunity to trade him with a higher chance of him being traded for.

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        • Gwynning

          4 years ago

          QO for Cron?! OMG LOL LMAO NEVER LOL LMAO Funny joke though bro LMAO

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          @Gwynning If not then they should have traded him. A player walking for nothing as a FA is literally the worst thing that can possibly happen to a non-contender.

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          @mlb1225 They could have re-signed him even if they had traded him. If the Yankees can do it with Chapman the Rockies should have no problem doing it with Cron. Because the Rockies didn’t trade Cron they have to QO him. Tbat’s all I’m saying and so many people get triggered it’s insane!

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        • mlb1225

          4 years ago

          I think you’re missing my point. A QO essentially takes any trade value he has because he’ll have a ton of salary remaining by next year’s trade deadline. No team will trade for him when he’s never been that good of a hitter in an entire season. If you are suggesting that they need to QO him in order to trade him next season, I’m suggesting that letting him hit FA to sign him to a lesser 1 YR deal in order for him to have some value as a trade piece is a better idea..

          Someone said the same exact thing last off-season with Jackie Bradley Jr. and the Red Sox that they absolutley had to QO him because they didn’t trade him even though QO-ing him in the hopes of trading him in the future doesn’t make any sense because he’s not worth the QO in the first place and no team would trade for him because of the amount of salary he would still be owed.

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          @mlb1225 and I’m saying they could have re-signed him to a lesser 1 year deal even if they had traded him. Again, if the Yankees can do it with Aroldis Chapman this should be easy for them.

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        • Gwynning

          4 years ago

          You assume too much; name somebody who wanted Cron. Better yet, forget about it.

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        • mlb1225

          4 years ago

          You’re making a horrible comparrsion with Aroldis Chapman in 2016, who was one of the most dominant relief pitchers in the sport at the time, to Cron, a 1B/DH who has a .7 fWAR and 108 wRC+.

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          @Gwynning to answer your question would require access to insider information that I obviously do not have. It stands to reason that someone would have taken him.

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        • Free Palestine

          4 years ago

          @removepitcherwins
          That’s why everyone is making fun of the Rockies.

          They should’ve moved Cron and probably Gray for prospects.

          Now they’ll lose Cron for nothing and/or overpay Gray if he takes the QO

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          @mlb1225 It’s a fantastic comparison. If the Yankees were able to sign Chapman after trading him then signing Cron after trading him should have been easy for the Rockies.

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        • ABCD

          4 years ago

          Did the Rockies even trade anyone this deadline? I don’t know why they didn’t. But Cron is a player other teams would sign to a minor league contract or pick up on waivers. They don’t want to give up anything for him. The Rox are not giving him a QO.

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          @Trade Fiasco Then they should have traded him. Even if all they got was a PTBNL or cash.

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        • mlb1225

          4 years ago

          But why should the Rockies sign Cron? Imo, they should just completley move on from him. There are about 10 other CJ Cron-like hitters they could find, maybe even one in their system or one they find in a minor league deal. A .250/.300/.450 hitter with 20-25 home runs a season isn’t rare.

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        • mlb1225

          4 years ago

          Could’ve Would’ve Should’ve. Offering a QO means they get absolutley nothing out of Cron. If his market wasn’t big on a $1 million deal, there will be zero market if he’s making ~$20 million.

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          @mlb1225 I’m not saying they should or shouldn’t. I’m saying that if they wanted to, trading him wouldn’t have stopped them.

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        • Deleted Userrr

          4 years ago

          @RemovePitcherWinsFromTheRecordBooks Yes, the Rockies should have traded Cron. Yes, the Rockies front office is a bunch of morons. No, that does not mean they should now compound that mistake by extending Cron a qualifying offer.

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        • KCJ

          4 years ago

          Anyone who thinks Cron is getting a QO clearly knows NOTHING about baseball. Insane to even consider it!

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          @KCJ Anyone who thinks the Rockies losing players to free agency at this point isn’t the worst thing that could possibly happen clearly knows even LESS about baseball.

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        • ABCD

          4 years ago

          The Cubs had a fire sale today. Dan Winkler, Matt Duffy, and Zach Davies were not traded and they will be free agents. Nobody wanted them. Cron is in the same bucket with them. Nobody wants him either.

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        • Lanidrac

          4 years ago

          To be fair, there are actually a lot of very good hitters hitting under .250 these days.

          Cron would still jump at a QO, though.

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        • cookmeister 2

          4 years ago

          @remove.

          Are you saying that every player that will be a free agent on a bad team should automatically be traded? It takes two to tango. Still have to put a team on the field.

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        • Mandelbrot

          4 years ago

          Because he had virtually no trade value? And maybe nobody even asked about him?

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          @cookmeister 2…

          “Are you saying that every player that will be a free agent on a bad team should automatically be traded?”

          Yes. That is EXACTLY what I’m saying.

          “It takes two to tango.”

          Logic and his score on BTV both said the Rockies should have been able to get SOMETHING for him.

          “Still have to put a team on the field.”

          And what exactly is it that you think will happen if they don’t?

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        • dirkg

          4 years ago

          Are there hoards of people in Colorado wearing Cron Jessie’s?

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        • 1984wasntamanual

          4 years ago

          They don’t have to. Plenty of teams keep guys they don’t end up offering QOs to, especially guys like Cron.

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        • 1984wasntamanual

          4 years ago

          Col =/= NYY, so assuming it’d be easy for them to convince a player to come back is perhaps not the best conclusion.

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        • jamaicajan

          4 years ago

          Who’s buying a CJ Cron jersey? They deserve to have him walk for being that stupid.

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          @1984wasntamanual…

          “They don’t have to. Plenty of teams keep guys they don’t end up offering QOs to, especially guys like Cron.”

          Difference is those teams are contending so having Cron on the roster for their potential playoff push is more valuable than whatever fringe prospect they could get for him. Not the case for the Rockies, who we already know aren’t making the playoffs.

          “Col =/= NYY, so assuming it’d be easy for them to convince a player to come back is perhaps not the best conclusion.”

          I’m not the one assuming that. It’s Rockies fans on this thread who keep saying that Gray wants to re-sign.

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    • Faith in the Padres

      4 years ago

      Cron isnt getting a QO.

      Why didn’t they trade him?

      Lack of suitors?

      He’s a 1B/DH type hitting .219/.340/.328 away from coors this season.

      That’d be my guess. Lack of suitors. Clubs probably offered cash considerations, if that.

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      • 123redsox

        4 years ago

        Sox could use him. He would certainly be an upgrade over Dalbec!

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        • Faith in the Padres

          4 years ago

          Didn’t the Red Sox get Schwarber? I’d try him out at 1B

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        • downeysoft42

          4 years ago

          They have schwarber

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        • Rsox

          4 years ago

          No he wouldn’t. We need to realize Dalbec is learning on the job at the MLB level. I have no doubt Cron will be on his 6th team in 6 seasons next year but i doubt it will be Boston

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      • Deleted_User

        4 years ago

        @Faith in the Padres Cash considerations have more value to the Rockies than Cron because at least cash considerations don’t hurt their draft position.

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        • Faith in the Padres

          4 years ago

          You’re assuming there were teams interested.

          In this day and age the 1B/DH type is slowly fading in favor of position flexibility, unless you’re an elite bat.

          I can’t imagine teams were lining up biting at the chomps to acquire a guy with an OPS of .668 on the road limited to 1 spot in the NL, 2 in the AL.

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          @Faith in the Padres Having Cron on the team is literally hurting the Rockies. If someone was willing to take his contract they should have traded him.

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        • Faith in the Padres

          4 years ago

          Again. You’re assuming someone wanted him. Doesn’t seem like they did. Unless you have proof a team was interested in cron? Otherwise given his production and position limitations the logical conclusion is teams werent interested in acquiring his services and rostering a 1B/DH only player who’s well below average offensively on the road.

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          @Faith in the Padres Like I said. To answer that question would require access to insider information that I obviously do not have. Logic says SOMEONE would have taken him and since he has negative value to the Rockies they should have just taken what they could get.

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        • mlb1225

          4 years ago

          The one thing we know for certain is that his market was very small. The market for 1B/DH’s in general isn’t very big because its an oversaturated market. The fact there were zero rumors, very few, if any teams really showing any interest in any other 1B/DH kind of players, I think we can at least say his market was slim.

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        • KCJ

          4 years ago

          Faith –
          Are you even reading his posts?

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        • Faith in the Padres

          4 years ago

          Let’s suppose someone was interested. What if said team insisted on the rockies attaching a prospect to take cron and be responsible for the rest of the money owed? Should the rockies have attached said prospect to cron to move his contract? We don’t know what was offered or what deals were on the table.

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          @Faith in the Padres Baseball Trade Values has Cron at 2.1m surplus value. So not the type of player you have to eat money/attach prospects to move. Nice try tho.

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        • Faith in the Padres

          4 years ago

          His responses to be me? Yes.

          So far he’s done nothing to convince me any team was interested in Cj Cron.

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        • Faith in the Padres

          4 years ago

          That includes his production at coors right? What’s his production on the road say his trade value is at?

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          @Faith in the Padres I imagine both are included in their calculations.

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        • Faith in the Padres

          4 years ago

          You didn’t answer my question though

          Should the rockies have dealt cron if it meant attaching a prospect to crons contract?

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          @Faith in the Padres Of course not. But logic and his score on Baseball Trade Values both say they wouldn’t have to do that.

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        • Faith in the Padres

          4 years ago

          Logic also said nobody was interested in a 1B/DH who is hitting .668 on the road this year. Hence why he wasn’t dealt.

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        • Faith in the Padres

          4 years ago

          What’s his away score value him at? Is baseball trade values free? Can you see home and away value?

          Serious questions btw. Never used it.

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          @Faith in the Padres No it just estimates each player’s surplus value, all things considered

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          A few months ago you said that the Pirates HAD to trade Mark Melancon back in 2016. Well if anyone HAD to get traded this year, it was Story, Gray and Cron.

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      • thickiedon

        4 years ago

        Ridiculous. Nice trolling tho

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    • Nervehammer

      4 years ago

      This isn’t the 2016 off season where power was rare

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    • Deleted Userrr

      4 years ago

      Trevor Story will be one of the easiest QO candidates in MLB this offseason. Jon Gray I imagine gets one too. He might accept it but you’re not getting a pitcher that talented on a one year deal for less money when you play your home games in Coors Field. CJ Cron will not get a QO.

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  6. BeforeMcCourt

    4 years ago

    I feel bad for Rockie fans+ Story. Now he’s stuck with a QO and won’t have a chance to prove he can hit outside of coors

    Rockie fans, your FO is ridiculous

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    • Faith in the Padres

      4 years ago

      Didnt’t he get the chances to prove he can hit away from coors 81 games a season?

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      • Daynlokki

        4 years ago

        He’s hitting .219 away from Coors.

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      • KCJ

        4 years ago

        Faith –
        Just please stop posting. You’re making a fool of yourself repeatedly

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        • Faith in the Padres

          4 years ago

          Kcj- there’s a mute button in case you are unaware. Feel free to use it instead of taking time to whine about my comments when you see them.

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      • BeforeMcCourt

        4 years ago

        Once again. No

        Hitting outside of coors when you play all your home games at coors is ridiculously hard. If a pitchers breaking ball breaks 10 inches at sea level, it could break half that in Colorado. Imagine hitting for 2 weeks where sliders only break 5 inches, then you come to LA and face an elite 15 inch breaking slider from Dustin May. Hitting is already hard enough, imagine not being able to know what a pitch will look like home vs road

        By the time hitters adjust, they go back to Colorado. This is why it’s hard to pitch in Colorado as well. If you refuse to acknowledge this basic fact, which applies to any high altitude environment, you’re just being a troll

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  7. someoldguy

    4 years ago

    I’m sure they’ll lie to the public like the Twins Dynamic Duo… with the lie that they are ” retooling”… what a load of hog crap.. its called a rebuild.. and the reason they don’t say the word is because season ticket holders will not re-up.. you can fool some of the people some of the time.. Retool: Verb: adapt or alter (someone or something) to make them more useful or suitable.

    Note there is nothing in retooling about replacing multiple moving parts in the device.. that is a rebuild..

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  8. Ully

    4 years ago

    So what’s the Story?

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    • IronBallsMcGinty

      4 years ago

      It translates to Trevor saying he wants the F out of Colorado.

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    • Lanidrac

      4 years ago

      Wishbone?
      …
      Sorry, I couldn’t help myself.

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  9. padam

    4 years ago

    The one player whom everyone thought there was a 100% chance would get traded – and didn’t. Perhaps the front office forgot to set a reminder.

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    • jdgoat

      4 years ago

      They thought the trade deadline was July 31st.

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  10. georgebell 2

    4 years ago

    Schmidt is full of bull droppings

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  11. everlastingdave

    4 years ago

    Bridich is gone, the “We’re a good team I swear!” delusion is alive and well. Rockies fans don’t deserve this but having a team run this poorly does keep things interesting.

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  12. HalosHeavenJJ

    4 years ago

    What, we can’t get what we were offered back when he was playing well? Then we’ll keep him.

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  13. dabrewcrew

    4 years ago

    Trevor will be flipping his Milwaukee condo that he prepaid for

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  14. Lloyd Emerson

    4 years ago

    The Colorado Rockies are the most dysfunctional and poorly run franchise in MLB. Why is Trevor Story still surprised by that? It’s not breaking news. It’s just sad.

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    • solaris602

      4 years ago

      If Story REALLY wants to stick it to the Rockies he should accept the QO. For Schmidt it’s a foregone conclusion they’re getting that comp pick. If Story accepts he actually ends up getting overpaid for 2022, and the Rockies will be fresh out of excuses not to trade him a year from now.

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  15. itslonelyatthetrop

    4 years ago

    Welcome to the club, Trevor. We had some jackets made.

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  16. zacharydmanprin

    4 years ago

    Trevor Story is very average away from Coors Field, having a down year, injured earlier this year….teams not willing to give up a piece of pie for a dirty napkin. What’s so confusing?

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    • Mandelbrot

      4 years ago

      Story suffered an elbow injury earlier this year. His current throwing velocity indicates the injury is still present which may also be impacting his hitting. In addition to that he no longer has any elite hitters (like Arenado) batting around him so pitchers can give him nothing good to hit.

      A team with a deep lineup would give Story an environment to thrive regardless of the Coors Field effect. He’s an elite player and some team is going to really love having him from 2022 onward.

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  17. J.H.

    4 years ago

    Definitely in the running for worst-run organization in the league. The future seemed so bright just a few years ago, to see where they’ve fallen is pretty sad. And with clueless incompetence like this, not looking like there’s any end in sight.

    Also, it’s easy to see Schmidt is trying to angle to keep his job. He’s just regurgitating the same crap Monfort’s been saying the last two years. He doesn’t want a GM for a much needed rebuild, he wants one that will have the same delusions he does. Very sad.

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      4 years ago

      It’s not even close. I’ve been feeling this way about the Rockies for the last decade. “I’m not even going to count last year….” What a crock of doo-doo. News flash: Every team had a difficult year last year.

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  18. Camden453

    4 years ago

    Breaking the unwritten rules of front office management. Send your impending free agent stars to contenders as a courtesy

    Get a decent prospect, but let’s not nitpick here over a comp pick

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  19. Doxie

    4 years ago

    Story would have been a expensive rental in all likelihood , why give up solid value to have him walk in 60 games. .

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  20. 24TheKid

    4 years ago

    Maybe if he were playing a little better they would have gotten better offers…

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  21. indypacers94

    4 years ago

    I agree with the GM honestly. I think the draft pick is worth more than what would have came in return. Still, I would have traded him for one top 30 team prospect anyway.

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    • thickiedon

      4 years ago

      At the rate his season is going, he takes the QO

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  22. Rsox

    4 years ago

    The Rockies have no front office to speak of, so there was no one to guide a fire sale. Could also be that the offers weren’t good as it was reported that the Rockies lowered the asking price to no avail. Draft pick compensation was apparently better than whatever was offered

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    • Deleted_User

      4 years ago

      Well now they have to extend QO’s to all their pending FA’s

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      • 28rings

        4 years ago

        the only problem is the qualifying offer is going to be over $19 million and out of all their impending free agents (Story, Gray, Owings, Cron and Chacin) the only ones worth that much are Story and Gray and if they both accept then their payroll will go up about $14 million and they’ll have the same bad team as this year and won’t be able to give them qualifying offers again and lose them for nothing after next year.

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        • Rsox

          4 years ago

          I think you offer Story the QO knowing he’ll probably turn it down. Gray, if you offer it expect him to accept so if they are not willing to pay it, don’t offer it. Let the rest walk

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  23. Rangers29

    4 years ago

    The Rockies crapped all over themselves this deadline. Plain and simple. That organization is far and away the worst in the MLB, and it’s not even close. THEY DIDN’T TRADE ANYBODY BESIDES GIVENS. How can their FO live with themselves after not trading any of Bard, Gray, Cron, Marquez, or Story!? I can honestly see their reasoning for not trading Story (despite me still believing that hanging onto him was utterly stupid) because he’s been down bad this season and the QO is still valuable. But how can you not trade ANY of the other aforementioned guys?!?! Stupid, stupid, stupid.

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      4 years ago

      The Rockies are consistently in the top ten in home attendance annually. Monfort just wants to keep selling tickets and couldn’t care less about building a winning team or culture.

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      • IronBallsMcGinty

        4 years ago

        Plus he got his All Star game money as well.

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      • Ducky Buckin Fent

        4 years ago

        Nailed it, @YBC.
        Rockies ownership believes – & with good reason – that their fan base cheers for people as opposed to laundry. They are essentially the inverse of the Ray’s. & wildly more popular.

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  24. Poster formerly known as . . .

    4 years ago

    Sounds like Trevor’s relationship with the front office is rocky too.

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  25. amk1920

    4 years ago

    Pete Crow Armstrong or Canairo is worth more than a comp pick. Have to think you could have got one of them. Just an incompetent organization.

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    • dswaim

      4 years ago

      Pete- Crow Armstrong landed Baez and Trevor Williams who has an additional year of arbitration. Both packages are more valuable than 2 months of an underperforming T. Story.

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  26. Throw Like a Girl

    4 years ago

    So that’s their Story and they’re sticking with him…

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  27. 48-team MLB

    4 years ago

    I know it’s hard to imagine right now…but Rockies/Rangers WILL happen one day.

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    • Deleted Userrr

      4 years ago

      At this rate I can definitely see it with the Rangers. Rockies… not so much

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      • 48-team MLB

        4 years ago

        I didn’t say it would happen soon. It could be 2065 for all we know.

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  28. Johnnymarty95

    4 years ago

    I think if the Rockies get a nice offer for Marquez they will definitely give the green light. Senzatela could draw interest from any playoff teams looking to add a back end starter. I wonder if Blackmon can also be traded for something. I’m not sure if they should sign Jon Gray to an extension as I think it could be risky. I think the team still has opportunities to acquire young talent and commit to a full rebuild.

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    • KCJ

      4 years ago

      Dude did you miss the fact that the trade deadline has passed?

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      • tstats

        4 years ago

        ~off-season plans~

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      • Johnnymarty95

        4 years ago

        I meant this upcoming off-season. Sorry for leaving that out.

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  29. exile

    4 years ago

    If Story was hitting like he was in 2018 and 2019 this year, he probably would have been traded for a top prospect.

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  30. Pads50

    4 years ago

    No bud black is pushing back against a rebuild

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    • Rsox

      4 years ago

      Because Bud Black knows the quickest way to unemployment is suffering through a rebuild. There is no legitimate reason for a full rebuild if for no other reason than the Rockies don’t exactly have a great farm system full of budding superstars to start with.
      Rodgers can replace Story at SS next season. Elhuris Montero is hitting pretty well at AA, should finish the year at AAA and could make the jump to MLB next season to play 3B (Keep Rio Ruiz to play 3B in case Montero isn’t ready early). Keep Ryan McMahon at 2B and re-sign Cron to play 1B. If there is a DH in the NL next season put Blackmon there. Tapia is solid in LF but they may need to address CF/RF in trade or free agency as Sam Hilliard and Yonathan Daza are not everyday players. Garrett Hampson is good as a super utility player. Marquez/Senzatella/Freeland/Gomber and either offer Gray the QO, which he would probably accept or find another starter for the 5th spot.

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  31. bigmike0424

    4 years ago

    Is Story really confuse why he wasn’t traded when considering that he suck this year.. Plain and simple the guy isn’t cutting the cheese, barely hitting his way out of paper bag for crying out loud is one reason Rockies couldn’t trade him because, he had no value once so ever, if he was hitting up a storm to where had value than, they would have trade him but he had no value so to speak.. No team out their is going to take rental guy who close to hitting on the mendoza line so to speak…

    people bring up C.J. Cron that he should have been trade, why when teams can wait till free agency and get him to signed 1 yr worth 2 million or less, is flash in the pan type player..

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    • Deleted_User

      4 years ago

      If teams wait until the offseason to sign Cron they don’t get to use him for their hopeful playoff push. It’s not like he would have (or at least should have) cost them more than just an org filler in trade.

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      • cookmeister 2

        4 years ago

        Are you CJ Cron?

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        • Deleted_User

          4 years ago

          Nope. Nice try tho

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        • Ducky Buckin Fent

          4 years ago

          Well…are you CJ Cron’s mother?

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  32. Luke Strong

    4 years ago

    What exactly is he confused about? His only response should have been: I love playing here, I love the guys here, and I am glad to be here to help us win a championship.

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    • KermitJagger

      4 years ago

      Yes, we are now in the day and age where everyone feels they can say whatever they want. He’s entitled to his opinion but the right move would be to focus on himself and the team.

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  33. pepenas34

    4 years ago

    Rockies were not prepared to be criticized after the Arenado fiasco, and teams were not offering much, but that was the price for not trade him before allstar game.

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  34. User 3617846742

    4 years ago

    It will be interesting to know what teams offered what for Story. I’m guessing the Rockies thought they could make out like bandits thinking it was a seller’s market.

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  35. diddlez

    4 years ago

    Everyone is blaming the front office (and they are incompetent, certainly), but we need to keep in mind that Trevor Story has had an awful season and teams have obviously taken notice.

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    • David C

      4 years ago

      I agree. Rockies are horribly run, but, ain’t no way Trevor Story as an 8 to 12 week rental is worth top notch prospects. Particularly not with the struggles he has had this season, and also especially considering that this has been a trade deadline with pitching fetching the best returns.

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  36. 30 Parks

    4 years ago

    The fact the Rockies were reported to have “lowered” their asking price is telling. So, the Rockies asked too much and waited too long to shift ideas, by which point Story’s suitors had moved on. After that awful Arenado trade, the Colorado Rockies are well-behind the eight-ball now. Gray, too – trade him. Common sense.

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  37. Goose

    4 years ago

    The Rockies won the ‘WTF!!!!!!’ Award for sellers. I thought for sure Cron and Story were gone. Obviously they wanted a a premium for Story as a rental and no one bit. If you look at this trade deadline no one was getting more than one great prospect and one good prospect for a player. No one got 2 or 3 blue chippers with another 1 or 2 decent prospects. It sounds like the Rockies were trying to land a windfall and realized it wasn’t happening too late.

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    • Special Agent

      4 years ago

      Your house is in foreclosure. I offer you $10000. You taking it?

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      • Just_a_thought

        4 years ago

        If your house is in foreclosure, you don’t make that decision lol

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  38. Sheesh

    4 years ago

    Rockies ownership is a complete joke, I’m getting wilpon vibes

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  39. Domingo111

    4 years ago

    That is terrible thinking by the GM. Admittedly he has been a good draft guy who was quite successful in the draft but he is severely overeating a comp pick. Going by the fangraphs “board” a comp pick is on average a 40+ to 45 fv (20 to 80 scale) which is a decent prospect but even a low offer would have been at least twice that, if not more. The cubs for example got two prospects ranked a 50 and a 45 and story should have gotten at least that

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    • Special Agent

      4 years ago

      The Cubs trade return is no great value. A potential no. 4 starter for one. Colorado can get that with a comp pick. Then a power bat with big contact issues. Those guys can be found in the draft. Heck, Colorado has a guy like that in Michael Toglia and he’s no sure thing.

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      • BeforeMcCourt

        4 years ago

        So what “they can be found”?! The point is you would get 2 or 3 guys the same value as just 1 draft pick, and further along their development

        It was terrible to hold Story unless they think Story will accept the QO and they can try again to trade him next year. The QO alone isn’t enough for someone like Story when you’re facing a long rebuild

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  40. 28rings

    4 years ago

    This is not going to end well for either party. Colorado is going to give him the qualifying offer just to get the competitive balance pick and if he rejects it, he’s going to have a hard time landing a job somewhere else with Baez, Correa, Crawford all having better seasons and Corey Seager also in the free agency mix. Someone is going to be left without a seat when the music stops.

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    • Special Agent

      4 years ago

      Story will still be in demand but he’s not going to make what he thinks he will. He’ll be ok though. Rockies get a comp pick and move on.

      Reply
  41. Chief Two Hands

    4 years ago

    A more accurate headline would be “People Confused That MLB Team Still Exists In Colorado..”. My apologies to the strong fan base in Colorado, but the atmosphere simply isn’t conducive to MLB..

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  42. whyhayzee

    4 years ago

    I think players need to understand what their value is to other teams. Agents tend to overstate it, that’s their job. They also need to have a feel for the exchange rate in a trade. I get the impression that Story was kind of oblivious to those factors and just expected to be moved no matter what.

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    • BeforeMcCourt

      4 years ago

      It’s clear the FO held onto their price way too long. There were reports hours before the deadline they dropped their price. Nice job, the Mets+Dodgers had already gotten their middle infielders by then, not to mention teams who acted earlier like Milwaukee. They acted too late

      Story wants to play meaningful baseball. This severely handicaps him achieving that in both 2020 and beyond. He would have loved to not have a QO. Can’t blame him

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  43. 66TheNumberOfTheBest

    4 years ago

    “I don’t have really anything good to say about the situation and how it unfolded,” Story says”

    When I read that, I thought that’s a pretty petty and entitled statement. BUT…to be fair, maybe he’s frustrated from performing so well on a bad team, it just got to him.

    Then I read this…

    “Perhaps the offer were somewhat dulled by Story’s subpar season. His wRC+ of 84 ”

    Dude, shut up. You are mad that your team couldn’t talk anyone into paying a high price for a flaming bag of dog…stuff?

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  44. Special Agent

    4 years ago

    My word, the pain here. Why would you give away Story and/or Gray for spare parts? You say you want to win and then get upset because Schmidt didn’t sell for fringe prospects, which is clear that what was being offered. You think anyone was giving the Rockies carte blanche to step aboard as pirates and rob them of their finest or better prospects?

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    • Goose

      4 years ago

      After looking at the responses, we have come to the conclusion that Special Agent is Schmidt’s burner account.

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    • JoeBrady

      4 years ago

      then get upset because Schmidt didn’t sell for fringe prospects,
      ==========================================
      This is the same BS excuse Tiger fans always gave for not having traded Boyd and Fulmer. Everyone else got traded, but no one wanted to offer the Tigers anything for their guys.

      Prices this week are huge. Even worse is the fact that Story should been traded last year. The Nats read the tea leaves, knew they couldn’t compete, didn’t think they’d compete in 2022, didn’t think they could extend Turner.

      So they razed the property. In two years, who do you think will be better: The Nats or the Rox?

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  45. RoxFan1167

    4 years ago

    I’m betting the Rockies Front Office and Ownership are confused on why they are not dead last in the MLB and that the Diamondbacks hold that honor. It appears to many of us fans that is what they want, come up with a team so bad that they come in dead last, some weird bet between Dick and Charlie Monfort if they can actually do it, and probably for $1.00. After today, they’ll probably move Trevor Story to First Base just like they moved Blackmon to a new position he’s totally incompetent playing.

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    • JoeBrady

      4 years ago

      I thought Desmond was their 1B. All they have to do is to offer him another 5-year contract.

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      • RoxFan1167

        4 years ago

        Unfortunately, or fortunately depending on your take, we haven’t seen Mr. Ian Desmond in two seasons. Wish I could sit at home for 2 seasons and collect a cool $75 million. He’ll be FA at the end of this season, which will free up some salary space. Of course as long as they don’t give it to another club to take our starting rotation this off season.

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      • RoxFan1167

        4 years ago

        Unfortunately, or fortunately depending on your take, we haven’t seen Mr. Ian Desmond in two seasons. Wish I could sit at home for 2 seasons and collect a cool $75 million. He’ll be FA at the end of this season, which will free up some salary space. Of course as long as they don’t give it to another club to take our starting rotation this off season.

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        • JoeBrady

          4 years ago

          I’d love to have heard that conversation.

          GM: We finally signed Desmond.

          Montfort: Great! Where are we going to play him?

          GM: What do you mean?

          Montfort: What position?

          GM: Well, he is a SS, but we have Story coming up. He’s also able to play CF, but we have Blackmon. 2nd and 3rd are taken by DJLM and Arenado. Well, actually Mr. Montfort, Desmond isn’t a very good player, so we don’t have to really figure out where to play him.

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  46. Chief Two Hands

    4 years ago

    Your value has depleted…no confusion outside of Colorado at all.

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  47. Aoe3

    4 years ago

    Rox were so good 3-4yrs ago. Then they dished out 2-3 multiyear reliever contracts and signed Desmond. What not to do everyone!

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  48. Appalachian_Outlaw

    4 years ago

    Trevor Story was selected with a comp pick which was awarded to them for losing Octavio Dotel. The Rockies may have liked their chances better to land an impact player in the draft with the comp pick Story will eventually net them himself over what was being offered. If they did, so be it. There’s no reason to trade just to trade.

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  49. JerryBird

    4 years ago

    Which remaining contenders really need Trevor Story? Why trade for him and move him or somebody else out of position? That weakens your defense. Story’s low production is why he wasn’t traded. He’s having a bad season and isn’t all that desirable at this point. He needs to shut up and work on his game, so that when he hits free agency, he has value. Confused? Look in the mirror.
    Cron? There are dozens of 1B\DH out there, I wouldn’t want my favorite team to trade for him. I’d be more confused as to why the Rockies didn’t trade a couple of starters. Story, meh…

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  50. phillyballers

    4 years ago

    No one was willing to pay up to their asking price because you’ve fallen off a cliff from 6 to 7 WAR to 1.5 currently, probably end up around 2.6 again. If you’re not playing well and you have the Coors effect, why would GMs expect different away from there?

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    • VegasSDfan

      4 years ago

      Yeah Story is a risk. He isn’t having a great season and I’m sure their asking price was too high.
      18.5 million this year, I’m not sure his production equals his salary.

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      • Chief Two Hands

        4 years ago

        I assume the Arenado trade has organizations thinking they can just wait this out and get Story relatively cheap. Story’s value is only decreasing and the Rockies FO does not seem remotely competent. Of course, it now looks like he will just eventually leave as a free agent. Good job, once again, Rockies. Good luck with that draft pick.

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  51. Yankee Clipper

    4 years ago

    Well, he may have successfully continued to narrow his FA options by his reaction as well. Certain teams will take his open criticism of their FO into account when looking at the SS on the market this offseason.

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  52. JDub731

    4 years ago

    After looking at Story’s split stats in his career just now, I can see why a trade probably didn’t happen. Career homeruns for Story are 90 homeruns at Coors Field and 57 homeruns on the road. Not too surprising there, but batting average at Coors career is .302 and on the road it is .242. I was shocked at the huge difference there. OPS .971 and .747 on the road, Take him out of Coors field and he’s average or below average I’d say. I’m sure Colorado was likely asking for a pretty big haul for him.

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  53. Chief Two Hands

    4 years ago

    Story got sidetracked. On the bright side, he may have expected his destination to be a lot rockier than this, but the solution is simple…trade for a moped and totally redeem yourself!

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  54. JoeBrady

    4 years ago

    He didn’t get traded because the Rox didn’t want to admit how badly botched this operation was. They’ve been a bad team for three years. Which means they held onto their best trade chips three years too long. They got a negative $51M for Arenado, they are going to get a comp pick for Story, they will either get nothing for Gray, or panic and give Gray an ill-advised extension.

    I’m not a Rox fan, but as a BB fan, I am offended. Somehow, Minny, Texas, Miami, Pitt, the Cubs the Nats, all managed to move players, And the Rox just sat on their hands.

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  55. nyy17 2

    4 years ago

    The word confused is one of the most overused and misused words in the English language.

    confused:

    1. (of a person) unable to think clearly; bewildered.

    2. showing bewilderment

    3. not in possession of all one’s mental faculties, especially because of old age.

    Is Story unable to think clearly? Is he not in possession of his mental faculties? Please. How about just say you were pissed you weren’t traded.

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    • Chief Two Hands

      4 years ago

      I was with you until your last sentence, then I got confused and now I need to go to the bathroom.

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    • BeforeMcCourt

      4 years ago

      So your saying you do not know what bewildered means? It’s right there. #1& #2 buddy

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  56. seamaholic 2

    4 years ago

    It’s entirely possible Bill Schmidt is correct when he says no offer was made that exceeded a qualified offer compensation pick. Those are fairly valuable, essentially a late first round pick in what is expected to be a very good, very deep draft next year. Story isn’t hitting well this year and has been hurt — may still be in fact. Only two teams went and got an elite shortstop, and there were special circumstances in both cases (LAD and NYM). The market just wasn’t there and the offers were junk. Seems very likely.

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    • JoeBrady

      4 years ago

      Anything is possible, but half the league just got traded. It’s like asking too much for Ripken rookie, and then saying ‘well, I didn’t really want to sell him anyway” after everyone says not.

      This is a disaster for them.

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      • Phillies Phan

        4 years ago

        Kind of like the Sixers and Ben Simmons.

        I get the logic but the MLB draft is by far the biggest crapshoot in all of sports.

        They should have extended Story and avoided this whole mess but instead have now pissed him off by thinking they’re the smartest people in the room.

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  57. DarkSide830

    4 years ago

    Rox gonna Rox

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  58. jondowdforever

    4 years ago

    Holding onto Story and taking the pick might make sense if the Rockies hadn’t just gutted their scouting and analytics departments. I wouldn’t trust them with my lunch order right now, let alone a compensatory pick.

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    • Phillies Phan

      4 years ago

      I think it’s pretty obvious analytics got them into this mess.

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  59. DocBB

    4 years ago

    Confused? If you played better you would have been traded….

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    • Phillies Phan

      4 years ago

      And that’s a good thing?

      He and Arenado should both be locked up into their thirties with the Rockies yet Story will now likely be playing for a different team next season.

      I don’t honestly understand how Rockies fans can watch their team do this over and over and still support them. At least the Marlins actually rebuild when they do it.

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  60. dugmet

    4 years ago

    Perhaps he should be more concerned about his lackluster numbers with the bat?

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  61. Phillies Phan

    4 years ago

    I signed up entirely to comment on this story because wow.

    The Rockies are so unbelievably delusional.

    I can’t believe a team that was so good in the Holliday years has become this much of a laughingstock.

    Not only did they sign Ian Desmond and yet then a few years later trade the younger and better Arenado, they think they can be anything without Story (their last recognizable player left). What exactly are they high on?

    Every time they have a great player or an All-Star or one with name recognition league-wide, they trade him or let him walk. Holliday was in his prime, just like Tulo and Arenado and now Story. Cargo and now Turner are the only players they’ve kept past a certain age in the post Helton era. It’s beyond idiotic because they refuse to rebuild while trading away their core players. They just plug the hole with most likely an inferior player and keep treading water.

    And they think they have a shot at the playoffs next year, in that division? Wow. Must be all that legal weed in Colorado or something.

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    • waltsneck1

      4 years ago

      Reportedly, the Rockies asked for Michael Kopech when the Sox called about Story. That’s a non-starter.

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      • Phillies Phan

        4 years ago

        Yup. That’s why I make the Ben Simmons comparison.

        The Sixers think a guy who can barely score in double figures despite dominating the ball all game long is worth anything close to what an actual superstar and future Hall of Famer like Harden netted Houston. They asked for Wiseman in addition to multiple first rounders and Wiggins and another player I’m forgetting. They demanded the moon from San Antonio and demanded two of Toronto’s foundational pieces in addition to picks. Every team laughed them out of the room in response. When they finally trade him, it’ll be for worse than whatever return they could’ve gotten had they not overvalued him so much.

        The Rockies should have either traded or extended Story a long time ago but chose to keep putting off the decision because they think they’re smarter than everybody else.

        They can’t be feeling too smart right about now. Once Turner became available, Story wasn’t gonna get anything close to whatever Turner got Washington. You snooze, you lose.

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      • JohnJasoJingleHeimerSchmidt

        4 years ago

        I would bet serious money that report isn’t accurate. Bennett Karoll, who put out that initial tweet, isn’t a reliable source for that information.

        I’d trust the MarketWatch guy who said the Giants traded Joey Bart & LaMonte Wade Jr. for Bryant before I trust Bennett Karoll.

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  62. soxzilla

    4 years ago

    As Dante Hicks from Clerks would say…..I’m not even supposed to be here today.

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  63. Deleted_User

    4 years ago

    Preller did the same thing with Jhoulys Chacin and Craig Stammen 4 years ago and it blew it in his face.

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  64. mike-5

    4 years ago

    I’m not really quite sure why the GM thinks a compensation pick for Story is worth more than the potential ML ready, top prospects other teams were probably offering,

    A guy who will be a high selection but have no idea if he’ll make it to the majors is a worth more than 2 or 3 guys who have proven to be good? I just don’t get it. Maybe he knows something I don’t, maybe that’s why he’s a GM and I’m just a guy on a computer. I don’t know

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    • David Barista

      4 years ago

      And cover the remainder of the contract because burning someone else’s money is cool… allocating the millions saved to a player deserving of an extension/buying out some years of free agency and arbitration is an idea for a rebuilding team… maybe invest in free agency? but I’m no GM

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  65. WillDS

    4 years ago

    I’m guessing no one offered anything of value. His numbers are brutal this year. Why would a team take a chance like that on a rental?

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  66. outinleftfield

    4 years ago

    What’s confusing about it? Story is playing like crud so no team wanted to take on the balance of his $17 million salary. DUH.

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  67. Rsox

    4 years ago

    No he wouldn’t. We need to realize Dalbec is learning on the job at the MLB level. I have no doubt Cron will be on his 6th team in 6 seasons next year but i doubt it will be Boston

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  68. David Barista

    4 years ago

    No market for middle infield, and the GM is too stubborn to realize that he’s also paying the remainder of the contract in addition to the measly compensation pick…. I am sure there was an offer out there that is better then the current scenario the Rockies are in

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