The Yankees have a stated need at shortstop and have already been in touch with several of the biggest names in the free agent shortstop market, and yet it isn’t yet clear if the Bronx Bombers are actually planning to make such a big signing. The New York Daily News’ Matthew Roberson wrote earlier this week that the Yankees were planning to focus on other needs rather than spend big at shortstop since prospects Anthony Volpe and Oswald Peraza are a year or two away from the majors, and Joel Sherman of The New York Post offers a similar sentiment today, though with a caveat.
According to agents and rival executives, Sherman says the Yankees are less full-on participating in the shortstop market than they are “monitoring” the situation and “waiting to see if a market collapses, in which case they might still swoop in to try to sign one.” For instance, in the event of a league-wide transactions freeze following the expiration of the Collective Bargaining Agreement on December 1, free agents would be in limbo until the freeze was lifted, possibly leading to a sudden surge of deals during Spring Training. This could create a rushed scenario where one of the top five free agent shortstops can’t find an acceptable long-term deal and could be open to a one-year deal from the Yankees — perhaps akin to the one-year, $25MM pact the Bombers offered Justin Verlander before he re-signed with the Astros.
Even if none of the “big five” shortstops are available at such a price, waiting until later in the offseason might also open up more trade possibilities for the Yankees at the position, Sherman notes. In any sense, it doesn’t appear that New York is willing to make a long-term commitment at shortstop, and if a multi-year mega-deal is struck, it might be a contract extension for a known quantity like Aaron Judge.
If the Yankees did extend Judge and add prominent names to the rotation or at other positions (i.e. first base or center field), Bronx fans might be satisfied with the team opting to acquire a lesser shortstop than any of Corey Seager, Carlos Correa, Marcus Semien, Javier Baez, or Trevor Story. Then again, for a fanbase used to their team splurging on premium talents, sitting out this star-studded market when shortstop is such a clear need probably won’t be received all that well no matter what other players join the roster. It also puts extra pressure on Volpe and Peraza to produce, as while the duo are highly-regarded minor leaguers, Sherman notes that the Yankees haven’t gotten consistent results from many of their top homegrown position players in recent years.
The December 1 CBA date has added plenty of extra uncertainty and urgency to this year’s offseason market. Last week, ESPN’s Jeff Passan wrote that Seager and Semien could be among the players more eager to get a new deal finalized before the CBA expires. In in the nine days since Passan’s report, there hasn’t been any inkling that Seager or Semien are particularly close to a contract, though multiple teams (including the Yankees) have been known to be interested in both players. Of the prominent free agents who have already signed contracts, the majority have been pitchers — Brandon Belt is the only position player within MLBTR’s top 50 free agent list that has already put pen to paper, accepting the Giants’ qualifying offer.
One or more of the top shortstops leaving the market would certainly have an effect the Yankees’ plans to wait out a freeze, but even all of the five big names signing elsewhere might not do much to impact what ultimately might be something of a “plan B” for the team. If anything, a February signing flurry might allow New York to obtain a stopgap shortstop (their bridge to Volpe and Peraza) at a lesser price, since non-elite free agents are likely to be more heavily affected by a freeze than the names at the top of the market.
Doug Bell
Volpe and Peraza are not “close to the majors”.
The Mets "Missed WAR"
Yankees can afford high AAV but they can’t afford another super long term contract like Stanton and Cole. It will only screw them in the future once the multiple year penalties kick in again.
Everyone thinks the Yankees can sign anyone because they dipped below the threshold for 1 year. They forget these top players demand long term contracts. A long term contract would prevent the Yankees from being able to dip below the threshold again in a couple years when the penalties will start kicking in again. This is Hal Steinbrenner. Not George Steinbrenner. George would spend all the money in the world every year and demand success vocally. Hal is only willing to break the luxury tax once or twice every 3 years. King term contracts make that almost impossible.
Jonthunder
Can and won’t are not the same: they can.
The Mets "Missed WAR"
You are right @John Thunder. The Oakland A’s technically CAN buy every free agent on the market. If you choose to live in an alternate reality who am I to stop you?
Poster formerly known as . . .
Under George Steinbrenner, the Yankees went from an $8.5M investment to a multibillion-dollar property. George apparently knew and lived by the adage: It takes money to make money. Hal is penny-wise and pound-foolish. The monetary value of winning a championship well exceeds the cost of the luxury tax.
Bob Klapisch claimed that Hal told him he feared his father when he was growing up because George was a bully and he doesn’t want to be like him. Make of that what you will, but maybe it’s not so much that Hal doesn’t understand the relationship between spending and profits but rather that he’s well aware of his dad’s reputation as a spendthrift owner and he doesn’t want to be like him even in that regard.
Or maybe he is dumb and doesn’t see that connection between spending and the financial rewards for doing so. But you’d think someone in the organization would tell him then, wouldn’t you?
deweybelongsinthehall
The game and rules have changed. There were no penalties such as % fines, loss of draft pics or international Po money. in fact there wasn’t even an international system in place then. it was only as you put it: spend to make.
Certain markets will always have a financial advantage over others but the Internet has closed that gap. While some teams will never be able to compete, many more today can and do. Today, it’s more important than ever to not just wildly spend. A team needs a budgeter, a forecaster and most importantly one who knows the rules beforehand. Right now, many teams are waiting for the new CBA to first learn what those moving forward rules will be.
28rings
and under Hal, the Yankees have gone from a $1.7 billion valuation to a $6.75 billion valuation – moneywise, Hal is a better investor than his father was and the people working under him are treated better and are more loyal
deweybelongsinthehall
Agree with the latter but as to the former, George in his prime would have probably done at least equally as well. Remember, he bought the team for $12m. Not a bad return on his money.
casorgreener
“…Bob Klapisch claimed that Hal told him he feared his father when he was growing up because George was a bully and he doesn’t want to be like him…”
How is that relevant to spending money on a baseball player’s contract?
SportsFan0000
The Yankees are a highly profitable business. Hal, as far as I know, has not success as a business man outside to gold mine/Yankees he was born into. Hal is not the “riverboat gambler” that George was.
Some of the most successful businessmen, at times, gamble big and win big. Hal does not have the confidence and business skills
to risk it. Hal is living on his father’s legacy and is afraid to mess it up.
So, he muddles through happy to be competitive and to get the Wild Card and make the playoffs.
Championships will be accepted if they luck out once every 15-20 years.
Parity has come to MLB.
The Yankees will never have another run like they did 50 years ago.
The Yankees are “living in the past” off past championships.
SportsFan0000
Hal was and is just lucky to be Owner of the Yankees when TV revenues exploded and team valuations exploded.
It would have been the same or better if George was still the owner.
George would have won at least 1-2 Championships in the last 10-12 years..
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@28rings
Forbes put the Yankees’ value at $5.25 billion. Where’d you get that $6.75 billion figure?
As for Hal being the better investor — really? $8.5 million — George’s initial investment — is $0.0085 billion. Who increased the franchise value by a greater multiple?
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@Casor_Greener
Read the entire post. Your answer is in there.
Keena
@28rings, Hell Steinbrenner is a disgrace to his father’s memory and legacy. How many World Series have the Yankees won under this absolute wimp’s tenure as Yankees owner? That’s right, not one. He is one of the worst owners in the history of professional sports and how it’s debatable is beyond me. The current Steinbrenner family has no desire to win, just pinch pennies and not be involved in the day to day running of the franchise, leaving it up to Aaron Boob. They should sale the team to the one man who is most like George Steinbrenner. The one man who would spend whatever it takes to win multiple World Series and could give to $hits less about money and actually hold players, coaches, managers and the front office to accountability. And say “YOU’RE FIRED when they go through an absolutely unforgivable, underachieving season like most in the 2000’s. Sale it to him NOW, unless of course he gets his deserved second term as POTUS in 2024. It’s a match made in HEAVEN and I drool thinking about how great it would be. #POTUS 45 and owner of sports all time greatest franchise, the NY Yankees!!!!!! He would do to the a-hole Red Sox, Cheating Asstros and other teams for what they have coming and wouldn’t be nice about it. And if the Yanks failed to do it, there’d be absolute HELL to pay! MAKE IT HAPPEN!!! I’ll settle for DeSantis for POTUS if Trump owned the Yankees.
JackStrawb
@The Mets “Missed WAR” And that’s why George’s Yankees failed to make the playoffs for 13 consecutive seasons. He was foolish and ignorant en0ugh about baseball to put the Yankees on the free agent treadmill from 1982-1994, in one stretch finishing 4th, 5th, 5th, 7th, 5th, 4th.
That was also at a time when the Yankees could outspend every team by tens and tens of millions, and they were still abysmal thanks to George’s woeful ignorance and childish bluster.
Chassoo
You talk about over the cap regarding luxury taxes. But forget there’s going to be a new contract after Dec. 1st…..Nobody knows what the deal will be.
slider32
Cots and Spotrac have the Yanks having 127 in salary coming off the books in 23, so they can afford another big contract. Plus the Yankees make over 700 million in revenue every year and that is why they can go over the cap what ever it is.
JackStrawb
@slider32 Doesn’t look that way:
baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/new-york-yankees-…
Gasu1
He’s assuming they refuse to tender any of their arb-eligible players (Aaron Judge, for example).
slider32
You are right, but at least 10 of those players will be non tendered and replaced with guys like Perazza and Vople.
rangers92
Oswald Peraza seems pretty close. He should be up in the majors mid year next year.
The Yankees should just trade Gallo back to the Rangers for Isiah Kiner Falefa
AllinTX
We need Isaiah, he’s too valuable. We can just wait until next year and sign him. IKF can play 3B the first couple of months if we sign a top SS. Then he can be our utility player or move to 2B if Andy Ibañez isn’t hitting above average.
justinkm19
I’d make that trade in a minute. IKF won’t start for us in 2023 anyways. He provides very little offensive value.
AllinTX
What if Ibañez or Solak don’t workout at 2B. Isiah provides Gold Glove quality defense at 3B, SS and 2B. 3.7 WAR is more than valuable.
Yankee-4-Lifer 75
@rangers92- out of all these comments, I’m so shocked you actually want Joey Gallo back? Do a lot of Ranger fans feel the same way? I’m thinking Isiah Kiner Falefa is probably way too much to give up for Gallo.
slider32
The new CBA will include a DH making Gallo easy to move with great defense, and great power.
PinstripedPride
Peraza graduated to AAA and had a combined .297/.356/.477 slash line in 2021. He’s got defense that numerous scouts say could play in the majors right now. I think he certainly could be ready. Volpe, not so much. He needs seasoning
Chipper Jones' illegitimate kid
Still, a team hoping to win the WS can’t rest on the hope that a prospect is going to hit the ground running after a midseason call up. Seager makes a lot of sense since he will have to shift to 3B soon anyway. Keep him at SS until one of those guys push him off rather than leaving a hole in your lineup and praying.
top jimmy
The last time the Yanks handed the starting SS job to a rookie, they won the WS. (Jester in ‘96). Just sayin’.
DarkSide830
so that always works?
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The Yankees under Cashman sometimes seem fearful of bringing players to the bigs too soon and slow to move them through the minors. Maybe erring on the side of caution is more of an error sometimes than taking a chance.
Juan Soto was 19 years old with only 8 games in Double-A when the Nats brought him up. A year later they won the World Series with him. One wonders how long he’d have sat in the minors if he were a Yankee prospect. Another player on that championship team, Anthony Rendon, played only 3 games in Triple-A before his promotion to the majors.
This is probably a moot point anyway because I doubt that the Yankees are going to take on another $300M+ contract.
BobGibsonFan
Gleybor torres says “what about me?” He was a rookie shortstop after didi was dealt.
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@BobGibsonFan
Apples and oranges. Gleyber was already a successful second baseman with two All-Star seasons under his belt when the front office got the brilliant idea that a weak defender at the keystone could move full-time to the more difficult shortstop position. His subsequent failure had nothing to do with his being brought up too early.
JackStrawb
@Mr. Person True, but Soto had made 7 stops during 3 years in pro ball and dominated at every single stop. That’s a very different resume than what you describe.
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@JackStrawb
That’s also true. But I don’t think anybody expects either Peraza or Volpe to be Juan Soto with the bat. If one of them is a decent defender with some stick, that should suffice while they spare themselves a massive contract to a slugging shortstop with health concerns.
BobGibsonFan
Who took over short when didi was traded? Torres was a rookie.
Deleted_User
LOL
top jimmy
Peraza will be ready by 2023 and Volpe will be ready by 2024.
KCJ
Rob Refsnyder. Clint Frazier. Two Yankee surefire future superstars of the past. Don’t count the chickens before they are hatched
costergaard2
Don’t forget Greg Bird either…
Ducky Buckin Fent
I will patiently await the list of MLB franchises whom have had all of their top prospects work out.
{Jeopardy theme song playing}
Alexburnshred
Don’t forget about Jorge Mateo.
Vlad Jr’s McGangbang
Is Kevin Maas in the Hall of Fame yet?
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@KCJ
I don’t remember Refsnyder being touted as a superstar. As for Frazier, not all young players are plagued with migraines, vertigo and vision problems.
Cosmo2
I see your point but I don’t think anyone had Refsnyder pegged as a star.
bucsfan0004
Ruben Rivera
whyhayzee
The Red Sox sent multiple teams to the World Series with mostly homegrown players, very successful in development. BUT, they didn’t win until they traded for and/or signed superstars like Pedro and Manny. And even then, they screwed it up until they finally won. They still develop hitters and relief pitchers well but not starters. And of course they have the occasional Swihart.
Cosmo2
Mateo was one of those : he’s so fast he’s gotta be good guys. Those guys are always a delusion. He could never hit.
JoeBrady
IMO, minor league speed is the most overrated skill. There is barely a year that goes by without some 80-SB, weak-contact hitter, that doesn’t wash out. Moncada was 49/3 in A-ball at age 20. He is 28/13 in his entire pro career.
Joe says...
That’s why he was traded and became Oakland’s problem.
SportsFan0000
Miguel Andujar?!
Joe says...
Mateo
Gasu1
Fantastical straw man. Refsnyder was never rated a top 100 prospect, and most people thought his defense was bad. He was never projected as a superstar. Clint showed signs of All Star potential before his concussion.
bronxbombers
Yankees should trade for mondesi
Playapoppa04
That I wouldn’t mind guy is a switch hitter super fast can hit for average plays solid defense just needs to stay healthy.
Playapoppa04
Why not a one or two year deal for trevor story, if not freddy galvis 1 year deal with a club option. Strong defense little pop switch hitter not a bad stopgap. As a yankee fan sorry to my fellow yankee fans but im sick of these 7, 8 , 9 , 10 year deals unless it’s an in house player especially to a guy that really deserves it in this case would be Aaron Judge but seriously let’s consider one of these stopgaps, this will let us afford a first basement maybe a centerfielder, a new catcher FOR SURE, new bullpen pieces 1 or 2 new ones maybe a 4th or 5th starter and a new bench as well, efficiency is the most important aspect for our baseball club and we need to maximize that asap. oh and let’s consider that overseas center fielder seiya suzuki too btw.
Gasu1
Disagree. Peraza could very well be an ML candidate for a regular job in 2023, since he’s already got some AAA experience and is on the 40-man roster.. Very likely he’ll see most of his 2022 ABs at AAA.
LivingRoomGM
Thats what I don’t get. Andrelton Simmons is a cheap defense first FA SS no one is talking about.
Cosmo2
His hitting has become that bad.
17dizzy
The Yankees and Cardinals would make great trading partners. Each team has good reserves who could start on other teams if they weren’t blocked by an impact player or a Gold Glover.
A Yankee – Cardinals trade could very well fill each other’s team needs for 2022.
Milwaukee-2208
Another way of saying, “we aren’t getting Correa, Seager, Story, or Baez, so don’t get your hopes up fans”
bronxbombers
Maybe a trade for Mo desi could work in the meantime
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Yankees can’t compete with Rays, time for a rebuild.
Rsox
Yankees haven’t rebuilt since 1992
Ducky Buckin Fent
In a decidedly down year, where quite a bit wrong, the Yanks still cobbled together 92 wins & made the playoffs. They could just simply run it back & – more than likely – have pretty much the same result.
That is not a team that is a candidate to rebuild. As it’s the Yanks, ’21 is considered an abject failure. But there are 20+ fan bases in MLB that would love to see their team’s experience that same “failure”. Did you happen to see how excited Mariners fans – as an example – were last September.
& I swear.
Years without a title for the NYY is like “dog years” or whatever. One of ours seems to be the same as seven for everyone else, uh?
BobGibsonFan
Tell us about how great the yankees are grandpa… did they really share gloves back then?
Joe says...
Tell us about your favorite team Bob. Oh that’s right, nobody cares.
luckyh
It is cute that Yankee fans, even their manager, think people are.
JackStrawb
In that case you went 91 years without even a postseason appearance from 1982-1994.
phantomofdb
@vlad Jr’s McGangbang
The Minnesota Twins have entered the chat
Ducky Buckin Fent
“Grandpa”!?
Boy howdy, that sure would be a helluva a surprise. I have had the “just use a damn condom until you’re at least done with college” talk multiple times with the chip off this old block.
Smart money says you are going to have to wait at *least* 5 years until that becomes an appropriate descriptor for me. It’ll probably be pretty cool when it happens though. Although he nor I is in any hurry to make it a reality.
Ducky Buckin Fent
That was never my assertion.
It was – quite simply – that the Yanks in no way, shape, or form need a “rebuild.” It appears that bothered you enough that you went off on a completely unrelated tangent. So that’s all on you & you alone.
& on a personal note: your screenname is really gross, man. I’m all for freedom of speech & expression. But the term “Mc********” is highly inappropriate in any setting.
At least the Yankee fellas on the board have much more dignity & class than that. A little disheartened that your fellow Jay’s fans haven’t quietly had this discussion with you already. I get along with a bunch of them. Maybe you’re new or something.
Ducky Buckin Fent
@the mods –
I thoroughly understand why you preferred the edited version consisting of asterisks. But that word is in that posters screenname.
C’mon, man. That is a really bad look for each & everyone of us. Completely inappropriate, juvenile (at best), & quite frankly should be excised from the board. What “value” would someone who chooses such a handle provide anyway? It screams “attention seeking troll” in the most forgiving interpretation.
Straight up & down. Pretty gross stuff.
Ya know?
BobGibsonFan
Come on grandpa… did they travel by train or did they walk?
Ducky Buckin Fent
PHEW!
Change your diaper bob. You stink. 🙂
Playapoppa04
Sadly the problem with that the yankees aren’t nearly as smart as the rays we could have all the talent in the world and it won’t matter until cashman leaves or the owner decides to really shake things up. We got a couple years left with our prime hitters after that we can talk rebuild or a 3 or 4 year retool.
pino
Stay far away from the big names, Simmons will be a good fit for a 2 year deal.
Yankee-4-Lifer 75
No Seager makes the most sense for the Yankees at $25-30 million annually for 7 years or 8 years. If he gets more than that, you got to let him go somewhere else. Marcus Semien should definitely be plan b. Trevor Story for 1 year at $25-30 million could be an option also. Peraza is probably year and a half away. Volpe is at least two years away. They are not close to the majors. Seager could move to 3rd when Peraza is ready to play shortstop. Volpe will likely be playing 2nd base when he is ready.
Playapoppa04
I disagree we’ll be paying seager 300 mil, already paying cole 324 mil, we are paying giancarlo 200 mil +. Then judge plus the hicks contract what about the rest of the team. I know seagers a great SS but it isn’t logical for us to allocate that much money for one player and leave the rest of the club pretty much the same, you tell me where’s the improvement?
Darryl Rose
Good god no!!!! Look at his .OPS last season and come back and tell us he’s a good fit.
Offensively he is Gary Sanchez 2020 but with the power of a 12 year old girl.
Yankee Clipper
Rose: “ Offensively he is Gary Sanchez 2020 but with the power of a 12 year old girl.”
Lololol – can’t help but laugh….. and pray Cashman doesn’t do it.
JimboBob
No one is signing Simmons to a 2-year deal. He’ll be lucky to get a starting SS job given his horrendous hitting numbers last year.
Getting to an age too where he is a utility infielder.
pinstripes17
LOL
Chipper Jones' illegitimate kid
Seager to the Yanks all but confirmed now.
SportsFan0000
Just Agent BS to drive up the price
neurogame
It’s a bluff.
Bigtimeyankeefan
Yankees need to stop with their infatuation with the 2 kid ss. We all know how few “top” prospects meet the hype. Sign a damn free agent ss and if one of the kids meets the hype, someone goes to 3b
Yankee-4-Lifer 75
@Bigtimeyankeefan- Signing a shortstop should definitely be the plan. Cory Seager fills that need. A lefty with power that doesn’t strike out much, would be perfect. $210 million for 7 years, with a 8th year club option seems like a fair offer.
SportsFan0000
Yankees would be better off signing Seager and trading one of their SS prospects to fill other needs. OR just sign Seager and move him to 3B when one of the kid SS s is available.
CubsWin108
lol
Rsox
Either they are going to wait until the music stops and see which player is left without a chair and can be had on a one year contract (possibly Story, probably none) or they are going to wait til they all sign with other teams and say “we tried” and then promptly sign Andrelton Simmons, Freddy Galvis, or Jose Iglesias
johnsilver
Iglesias may end up being overpaid because of the nice 30 days he had to finish the ’21 season. FWIW.. I wouldn’t mind him being back in boston manning 2nd if price is cheap and he can still play and above average SS, but believe him signing for sub 5m is now a gone thought because of last September’s play.
PinstripedPride
Very hot take: What if the Yankees don’t spend $300 million on one player but instead spread that money around? Say, the team trades Gleyber to Oakland in a package for Matt Olson, signs Marcus Semien to man second base, and signs Chris Taylor to be placeholder at shortstop until Peraza is ready?
Rsox
In this (very unlikely) scenario why would you play Taylor at SS over Semien? I would imagine that Semien would play SS and Taylor 2B. More likely if Chris Taylor signs with the Yankees he will likely end up in CF when Hicks inevitably gets injured, leaving LeMahieu at 2B (remember he’s going to be around for a while) and Urshela at 3B
PinstripedPride
This is could also be true. I want Taylor very badly for the precise reason that he CAN play everywhere. He’s the ultimate utilityman in today’s baseball world. It’s possible that the roles could be flipped sure, it’s just that Semien had better defense at second that he had at short, so there’s some thought that he might stay there. Yes if we got Taylor he’d definitely play some center too.
And yes, it is very unlikely that this all happens, that’s why its a very hot take
Ducky Buckin Fent
Some years I want us to add the Big Chinook.
Other years, I’d rather see a tasty mixed bag.
This offseason I favor the latter. Much rather see that money spread around. Our pitching – for a change – is in a good spot. But I see multiple spots in the lineup & on the bench that need an infusion of talent/$$.
Which is why I have been pretty much out on the Big SS market all offseason. But I’m a pretty crappy GM all in all.
So there’s that.
Yankee Clipper
The only thing about this that scares me a little, is any time Cashman goes into true “monitoring mode” he falls asleep at the wheel.
Man, a 2nd tier SS, spread the other half of the money around and we are good to go. Use Peraza as a trade piece while his value is at its peak and Let’s make it happen!
Yankee-4-Lifer 75
@Ducky Buckin Fent- no actually pretty far from a crappy GM. I always enjoy your comments. So shocked some Yankee fans on here don’t want Corey Seager though. Maybe a year of Trevor Story wouldn’t be such a bad thing? Freddy Galvis just doesn’t seem to be the answer. Just a stopgap till Peraza is ready. I guess? Maybe Galvis on a 2 year contract then. The extension for Judge needs to be done lst though. Can’t lose him. $220 million for 7 years? That seems fair to me. Let me know. Hope all is well.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Gleyber won’t be headlining any package for Olson. Oakland is going to want pitching and I’m not sure the Yankees have enough. Besides, they have Tony Kemp at 2nd as well as Elvis Andrus at SS for another year. Semien is going to command and sign for at least four years. Removing DJL at 2B also devalues him. I like Chris Taylor but he’s also a right-handed bat with a high K rate.
Yankee-4-Lifer 75
@YankeesBleacherCreature- the Yankees don’t have enough young pitching to get a deal for Olson? Gil, Schmidt, Medina, Abreu, and Deivi. Seems like more than enough to get Matt Olson to me. Voit, Gil, and either Peraza or Gleyber is plenty. If no then just re-sign Rizzo for 2 years and just forget it.
Darryl Rose
I think referring to a MLB proven performer as a placeholder for a prospect is a bit insulting. Look I hope one of the two becomes a great shortstop but they may become Tyler Wade Lite. So before we start planning their HOF speech let’s consider the last 10 number 3 prospects for the NYY:
2011 Manny Banuelos
2012 Gary Sanchez
2013 Tyler Austin
2014 Slade Heathcott
2015 Jorge Mateo
2016 Gary Sanchez
2017 Estevan Florial
2018 Justus Sheffield
2019 Albert Abreu
2020 Deivi Garcia
A prospect is a hope and a prayer until they actually can prove themselves at the MLB level.
Bigtimeyankeefan
What’s Taylor’s career #s? Or is he a one year wonder?
Chipper Jones' illegitimate kid
He’s been good since 2017.
Chief Two Hands
Pretty much since he became a Dodger.
JerryBird
I am less confident that prospects can be reliable. Too many fail, even some of the top ranked players. Free agents are also a gamble, but being established at the Major League level, I have more confidence with them.
It seems no matter what MLB teams do, it is always nothing more than a roll of the dice.
top jimmy
It’s a smart approach. There’s simply too many SS options in this free agent class. Not all of them are going to get a mega-contract. There’s simply not enough teams with that kind of money and a dire need at SS for all of those players to get what they’re asking for.
Darryl Rose
That’s why I think Baez is the answer. He will cost much less, has a high OPS, hit over 30 home runs and is stellar defensively.
Yes he strikes out too much but if the alternative is Simmons … Or $350 million for Correa them Baez starts to look good.
Yankee Clipper
I agree, D Rose. Baez for a defense-first guy has a great bat. .265 w/ 30 HRs, and GG defense at SS, 2B, and can play 3B? I think you’re right.
Less years (say 6) at $150MM, leaves $100 MM to float and fill out the roster, compared with one Seager or an even more expensive Correa.
Yankee-4-Lifer 75
@Yankee Clipper- I totally disagree. Seager is a much better player then Baez. Baez swings at everything, he rarely draws a walk. I know Baez had a really good year last year, and he can play multiple positions, but so can Seager. Seager can move over to 3rd base when Peraza is ready. Volpe will likely be playing 2nd base when it’s all said and done. Seager’s swing is tailor made for Yankee Stadium also.
Zonedeads
Seager might be a better hitter than Baez but that’s it. Baez is much better defensively at multiple positions and seager will almost always miss a chunk of games
Yankee Clipper
Yank4Life75: No doubt, you are correct that Seager is much better offensively. In fact, he’s my top choice. But seeing the manner in which the market has progressed, coupled with the “wait and see if the SS market tanks” attitude of Cash & Co, means that we get Seager and nobody else, or step to the tier2 guys (Baez/Story) and use the rest to complete the roster.
I say Baez because he’s got good pop; yes, he strikes out way too much for me, but I view him as a glove-first SS, and a great one at that. Plus, he’s got decent speed. Also, he’s had a healthier career as Zonedeads brought up.
I think it’s an amenable compromise because we need more than one man to win a WS, and with the way Cash & Co have reneged on their FA hype, I think we are better off filling 3-4 positions of need, rather than just one.
solaris602
I completely agree. There just aren’t enough teams willing and able to sink $300M into a SS while leaving other needs unaddressed. Correa is the most likely to get the biggest pay day. In the past everyone waiting for the best available at a position to sign and “set the market”. Now I think it’s more likely to be a bottom up approach that could leave the best with no choice but a one or 2 year contract.
Mickey777
In past years if the Yankees really wanted someone they struck early, see Cole and Sabathia. If they only want a player at a certain price, then they wait for the market to come them. If history is any predictor of the future then they take a top SS only at the right price as the article suggests. Backup position is to sign a short term solution like Freddy Galvis. Don’t see them signing Andrelton Simmons because Peraza is ready now defensively, so why sign a defense only SS like Simmons. Galvis is a switch hitter and could become a solid utility infielder at any point that Peraza is ready both offensively and defensively. Yanks recently cut Wade, Velasquez, and Odor so there is need for a veteran infielder like Galvis.
stymeedone
The question becomes whether Galvis is willing to become a utility player. Utility for the Yankees, or starting SS elsewhere seems to provide an easy answer.
JackStrawb
No one’s giving Galvis a starting gig, though. 32 years old. Can’t get on base. Can’t run. Subpar bat. He’s a decent backup on a team that’s not going anywhere.
Now that Villar is out of their price range it’s easy to see Galvis going to the Mets for 1/$2m, especially since he can play 3B, which the Mets need.
Compare him to Villar. Villar was a significantly better player, clearly a starting-caliber player four of the previous six seasons with a 4 rWAR season to his credit, but could only get 1/3.5m from the Mets. .
Yankee-4-Lifer 75
@stymeedone- Freddy Galvis can start at shortstop for the Yankees right now. He doesn’t have to be a utility player. Peraza isn’t major league ready yet, despite all the comments above that he is. Smh. Urshela can man 3rd, Gleyber can play 2nd and DJ can play lst. I really don’t like the price for Olson and would steer clear. Rizzo can always be brought back for 2 years, $32 million as reported.
JackStrawb
It’s impossible to know how to address that. Are we talking about the same Galvis? Freddy Galvis? The Freddy Galvis?
The Freddy Galvis has had a single season worth more than 1.6 fWAR, climbing all the way to 2.3 fWAR in 2016. That was SIX years ago and it was the only time he was worth a regular spot in the lineup. He has zero upside, too. He’s simply not a starting SS, especially not on a contender.
I agree the Yankees would be foolish to sign a star SS to a very long deal, but whatever the question is (other than, “what sort of mistake can we make if we’re actually trying to win the AL East?”), the answer is not Freddy Galvis. It can’t be.
Yankee-4-Lifer 75
@JackStrawb- I said you can start Galvis at shortstop for now. Who says you have to have an all-star at every position? Not me.
Cosmo2
Yea Galvis would be a fine stopgap at SS. JackStrawb is neglecting Galvis’ ‘19 season where he was worth like 3 bWAR. Galvis is good enough.
JackStrawb
It would help to have an actual regular at all eight positions, though 🙂
MetsFan22
Of the tables have turned….
Yankee Clipper
Why because you finally have a GM?
LordD99
The Yankees are not shy when they’re interested in pursuing a top free agent. They go in quick and establish the market, as they did with Cole and Sabathia. If indeed they are “monitoring,” then it indicates their interest may be less than the media and agents have been trying to suggest.
Rsox
Every single on of those players needs Yankee (or Red Sox or Dodgers or even Mets/Angels) interest to drive the prices up. A Marlins/Twins battle does nothing to up the prices for these players
bucsfan0004
Cole and Sabathia were aces and can dominate a game. Any position player is only a piece of a puzzle. Pitching is always the answer, not Baez/whomever
JackStrawb
@lordd99
Very, very well said.
Samuel
The NYC media will play this for all the clicks they can get over the next few months.
About the SS’s – the other day Avila said that they Tigers have lots of needs and meeting Correa’s demands are unaffordable. That could be a ploy. We’ll have to see. But that crazy contract Lindor got that all the FA SS’s and their agents are trying to measure into is very probably not going to happen. The Astros showed some sanity in refusing to give more than 5 years.
I think the Yankees and others in the market for a SS will either look for the market to become more realistic, or will go with a stopgap for a few years. Teams are learning how ultra long-term contracts hurt them as time goes on. Every year more SS’s come up to the majors, and some that are on rosters get a lot better. Even the large market teams (other than the Mets) seem to be figuring this out.
64' Yanks
Well, the Yankees could sign Kris Bryant and move Gio Urshela to shortstop.
Darryl Rose
Urshela is an adequate 3rd baseman and an emergency SS. He isn’t someone you plan on penciling in every day at short. He fills in for an injury.
costergaard2
Gio’s a better 3B than SS, but I would love to sign Bryant anyway because he can play 1B 3B and all 3 OF slots. Boone could find a spot for him on the regular…
toomuchpie
Bryant is likely a buyer’s remorse big contract.
JackStrawb
Bryant is indeed now a below average defender at the corners, and he can fake CF the way any corner guy can.
Bryant’s a 30 yo, 3 WAR 3Bman whose star years are from another lifetime. A decent player, but the injuries wrecked his upside. He’ll be wildly overpaid, but you’d be silly to give him more than something like 3/60m.
Braves Butt-Head
Andrelton Simmons to the Yankees
Darryl Rose
Why?
He hits like a 112 pound blind man.
Braves Butt-Head
Because the Yankees are monitoring instead of pursuing lol
Since when are the Yankees starting to be prudent anyways. This is the team that gave A-Rod a 10 year 275 mil extension after they said they wouldn’t and took on Gincarlo Stantons contract.
Them being fiscally responsible is like when the fat guy singer of Blues Traveler lost weight in that its good that he lost the weight but it was weird to see him skinny.
toomuchpie
That 10-year extension was done by Hank Steinbrenner. The team is now run by Hal Steinbrenner. That’s why you see more attention to the budget.
amk1920
Yankees fans are due for massive disappointment this offseason. They already have a ton of payroll commitments long term and still have to worry about Judge. They may get one big name but this definitely isnt a 2009 like spree getting hyped up to be.
Ducky Buckin Fent
I feel like you are painting us with some pretty broad strokes, @1920.
Personally, I would much rather see two or three signings from the second/third tier. Our pitching (both rotation & bullpen) is in good shape. That’s a pretty big deal, man. Aside from perhaps a 100 or so starter innings there is not much work to done there. & that is more luxury than necessity.
Have some spots to fill/upgrade on the position player side, but that is hardly an onerous task.
costergaard2
The 2009 spree worked (CC, Burnett, Tex), but the 2014 spree did not (Tanaka, McCann, Beltran). Not sure that throwing money around is the answer.
I would love to do a deal with Oakland before the lockout…
Ducky Buckin Fent
A trade for Olsen would be a boss move.
The scuttlebut is the A’s have an astronomical asking price for him, however. Which is understandable. In light of that, I have sorta pivoted to either just bringing Rizzo back or trading for Josh Bell to upgrade 1B.
stymeedone
Why not just sign Freddie Freeman? Perfect for Yankee Stadium and knows how to win!
Yankee-4-Lifer 75
@stymeedone- I love Freeman. But at 32 years of age I wouldn’t sign him for 6 years. Maybe 5 though. Lol
JackStrawb
Throwing money around is surely the answer for this Yankees team, but as you note doing it wisely is key. They’re good enough to go for it and it would be a shame particularly to waste a year of Cole + Stanton + Judge. Long term deals, though, would not be wise. If they’re planning on extending Judge, then other long term deals particularly when their best prospects play SS, would be asinine.
Joe says...
Exactly Jack. Not only that but next year Taillon, Monty, Sanchez, Gallo and Judge are all free agents. Even if some of them won’t be back, they will need to be replaced. And with the two starters, we’ve seen already how much they are commanding in free agency. I purposely left out Britton and Chapman as they are relievers and will be replaced on the cheap with their salaries going towards a Judge extension.
averagejoe15
It’s all posturing. The more the Yankees float direct interest the more aggressive other teams will be with offers.
Also helps them get out ahead of player agents using their presence as leverage in negotiations.
AllinTX
My wish is that Correa signs with Detroit 10/270M. Seager 10/300M with the Yankees. Semien with the Dodgers 5/150M to play 2B. Baez with the Mariners or Phillies 5/100M. And Story 6/130M with the Rangers.
toomuchpie
Seager isn’t getting a bigger contract than Correa.
AllinTX
Yeah those are my wishes for the Tigers and Yankees to overpay for those two and for the Rangers to sign Semien @150M or Story @130M preferably. And yes even at 270M it would be an over pay for Carlos.
“IF” Seager is cool with 8/240M then that’s more reasonable.
MurderersRow27
At those prices, I would 100% prefer going with Story over Seager… as it would leave more money in the coffers to upgrade other areas of need (CF, C, SP/RP perhaps). I don’t think their pursuit of upgrading 1B will be affected by their pursuit of a SS (or visa versa), unless they somehow are able to pry Freeman away from Atlanta (but I highly doubt that will happen). For example; I’d much rather they get Story and S.Marte or S.Suzuki over just Seager.
AllinTX
Yeah that’s my preference as a Rangers’ fan in case you didn’t notice lol (I don’t have a top SS signing with the Astros)
And for them to sign 1 of Suzuki, Schwarber or Marte. Then go hard after 2 of Stroman, Rodon, Ray, Gray and Matz.
dougsolo1
This theory is all based on unnamed “industry sources” that spoke to the NY Daily News. Does anyone keep in mind that these sources have an agenda? Sources with real knowledge of the Yankees plans don’t just go revealing those plans to reporters unless it is in their interest. Here, they are likely hoping to lower Seager’s expectations on getting a $300M contract from the Yankees. This story makes me more convinced, not less, that Yanks will sign one of the top SS (I am thinking Seager). Why else would they feed this story to the media?
YankeesBleacherCreature
I’m with you on this, The Yankees, like many others teams, are an established brand. They have public relations teams strategize and methodically “leak” their “interests”.
AllinTX
Exactly, I hope he gets paid 370M lol
Yankee-4-Lifer 75
@dougsolo1- I happen to agree with you about the Yankees signing Seager. I just don’t like the 10 contracts. Let’s face it they usually don’t work out. $230 million for 7 years with a club option seems more likely from the Yankees.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
What happens if teams just refuse to offer these shortstops any sort of contract over 6 years and $35mil AAV ? What will Correa do if he doesn’t get his 10 years at $320+ contract?? Will it be seen as collusion if these shortstops don’t get what they think they deserve? If nobody offers Correa or Seager a 10 year contract can they just say “screw you I will sign a one year pillow contract and try free agency again next year?”
JER676
To Mr. Cashman,
All this talk about what moves you should or should not make drives me crazy. Either way, you’re always going to make the best decision that would help the team win.
I am not going to act or attempt to know how hard your job is. I am going to write about a few things I have seen over the past few years.
Judge is a good player but he is no Derek Jeter.
Derek was competitive and mentally strong. Judge may be able to hit the ball 500 feet but in my opinion he is no CAPTAIN. He needs to toughen up and mature. He needs to focus on being more aggressive and competitive. Let’s not forget how classless he was a few years ago at Boston. I hope he learned humility. Before you try to insult your opponent at their home after a playoff game, win a championship!
I never thought I would say that Stanton acted more of a leader this season than Judge has his entire career.
Maybe what the Yankees need is what many fear. Maybe they need a real leader like Carlos Correa.
Corey Seager is a good player and yes a lefty bat in the lineup is needed but he is no Correa. Correa is an All Star that lives for the playoff. He talk the talk and walk the walk. And if we are serious about winning a World Series, the Yankees need a proven Major Leaguers at SS rather than our non proven prospects in the minor leagues. Look at Frazier and Andujar. We had hopes and did they panned out?
Yes, Correa said a few negative things about Derek, but what I really think he was trying to communicate to us was that he really wants to be is a Yankee. What if Correa was just trying to sell himself to you by pointing out the facts between Derek and the player Correa is currently? What is Correa believes that he can win more championships than Derek as a Yankee? One thing is clear, the Yankees would be better with Correa at SS.
We also know Correa is no AROD. Correa is a clutch hitter. Correa and Derek have one thing in common. Every time they hit the field they want to beat you.
By adding Correa to your lineup would bring leadership that can lead to a more aggressive and competitive team attitude.
Whether you can trade for Olson or not, you know what you have to do about the first base situation.
Before you make any other moves about pitching, centerfield or your catcher, please look back at 1996.
Good luck in all your moves.
bucsfan0004
Jeter played everyday and was a team leader, clutch player, etc. To compare Correa to Jeter in any way is just asinine. Sign Correa and you’ll have to find another SS for the 6 weeks in mid-summer when Correa finds himself ‘injured’.
2001morecowbell2001
Just need to be crystal clear that this guy does not speak for all Yankees fans so can the “we” nonsense
JER676
To Mr. Cashman,
All this talk about what moves you should or should not make drives me crazy. Either way, you’re always going to make the best decision that would help the team win.
I am not going to act or attempt to know how hard your job is. I am going to write about a few things I have seen over the past few years.
Judge is a good player but he is no Derek Jeter.
Derek was competitive and mentally strong. Judge may be able to hit the ball 500 feet but in my opinion he is no CAPTAIN. He needs to toughen up and mature. He needs to focus on being more aggressive and competitive. Let’s not forget how classless he was a few years ago at Boston. I hope he learned humility. Before you try to insult your opponent at their home after a playoff game, win a championship!
I never thought I would say that Stanton acted more of a leader this season than Judge has his entire career.
Maybe what the Yankees need is what many fear. Maybe they need a real leader like Carlos Correa.
Corey Seager is a good player and yes a lefty bat in the lineup is needed but he is no Correa. Correa is an All Star that lives for the playoff. He talk the talk and walk the walk. And if we are serious about winning a World Series, the Yankees need a proven Major Leaguers at SS rather than our non proven prospects in the minor leagues. Look at Frazier and Andujar. We had hopes and did they panned out?
Yes, Correa said a few negative things about Derek, but what I really think he was trying to communicate to us was that he really wants to be is a Yankee. What if Correa was just trying to sell himself to you by pointing out the facts between Derek and the player Correa is currently? What is Correa believes that he can win more championships than Derek as a Yankee? One thing is clear, the Yankees would be better with Correa at SS.
We also know Correa is no AROD. Correa is a clutch hitter. Correa and Derek have one thing in common. Every time they hit the field they want to beat you.
By adding Correa to your lineup would bring leadership that can lead to a more aggressive and competitive team attitude.
Whether you can trade for Olson or not, you should do everything in your power to get a lefty bat on first base.
You have given Sanchez more opportunities than any catcher would have been given because of his power. But if he is not the future, trade him. Get some value while you still can.
We need pitching. We need a real number 2. And we need a lefty to be able to balance the rotation (please look back at 1996).
As painful as this is, don’t bring back Gardner. Trade for a centerfield and move Hicks to left.
We need to get younger and faster.
The Yankees need to be able to play both small and long ball in order to win.
Good luck in all your moves.
AllinTX
If you trust what the New York media is “reporting” you’re crazy. Cashman isn’t telling any outsiders his moves. And as a Rangers fan I hope the Yankees pay 300M for either Seager or Correa (it be funny how yal react to it)
Ronk325
This is another smokescreen to enable the Yankees to play all sides. This way they don’t appear desperate to sign one of the big guys and agents can’t leverage them against other teams. In the event the Yankees sign a stop gap, they can play it off as never being serious about the big guys to help alleviate fan anger. My thinking is that they really want Seager or Correa but aren’t looking to pigeonhole themselves like with Cole and be forced to make a huge overpay
User 1580013680
The Yankees will never sign Seager or Correa. Does anyone remember Manny Banuelos?
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Not sure why Yankee fans are so smug about their pitching situation. They have Gerrit Cole who has increased one year in age and decreased several hundred spin rates with his fastball. They have Jordan Montgomery who is a solid #4 starter. Luis Severino is fire but his injury history is problematic and hasn’t put together a full season since the Trump years. Taillon very problematic injury history and could possibly be made of glass. Yes the Yankees have a fire bullpen, don’t see much need for upgrade there. However my thoughts are put $$ into the starting rotation and sign a stop-gap SS. Every Yankee fan here says their pitching is just fine and I just don’t have that same confidence. Mariner fan #1 , Yankee fan #2 here.
AllinTX
As a Ranger’s fan I hope the Yankees sign Seager and Correa for 600M and the Mariners get Baez for 200M
Just leave us Semien or Story lol
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
I think Semien is a perfect fit for Seattle and I will let the Rangers have Seager, Story, AND Baez…deal?
2001morecowbell2001
Not to mention Aroldis Chapman strikes fear in the hearts of no one in a big game situation and Cole is a regular season superhero also.
EJesus98
Try to sign Seager. That’s the only big name shortstop that makes sense. He’s lefty bat will give the Yankees more balance plus he’s probably gonna be a third baseman in a couple of years or at least ought to be considered for that route. Correa, Baez, Story, and Semien I agree don’t make sense to pay for when Volpe is so highly touted and could be ready in a couple of years
sambino
I really hope the Yankees do not sign Correa
AllinTX
It be funny to see how Yankees’ fans react if they do.
Yankee-4-Lifer 75
@sambino- me neither. I can’t stand him, despite how good he is. The Yankees can’t sign him after all his negative comments about the legendary Derek Jeter anyway. So don’t worry.
Cosmo2
Any one of those four other guys could move to third base too
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
So much speculation.
sox4ever
Simmons will bat 4th a few times this season lmao
Patrick OKennedy
If the Yankees are not going to actively pursue one of the elite shortstops, that would change the bidding war significantly. Shortstops are such a huge part of the free agent market this winter, and the rest of the market follows the top tier. Chances of Seager and./or Correa getting their $ 300M contract would be all but gone.
Good news for Tigers’ fans!
JackStrawb
Ben Clemens writing for fangraph’s annual Top 50 FA article projects this:
Correa: 9/$297m
Semien: 4/$120m
If true, imagine being foolish enough to sign Correa. Semien outperformed him from 2018-2021 by rWAR, and even though he’s 31 Semien is in far better health, having just played 162 games at a new position, 2B, cracking 45 HR and winning the Gold Glove.
In short, if those salary projections are accurate, By signing Correa you’re hoping for the unlikely event that he performs better than Semien for 2022-2025, while committing to paying Correa the difference of $177 million for 2026-2030, Correa’s age 31 through 35 seasons. That’s $35.4 million a year for a SS who has had a great deal of trouble over the last four years staying in the lineup.
Who in their right mind does that? By rWAR Semien has been the most valuable player in the game over the last 3, 4, 5 years. Age is an issue, but a 4 year commitment to baseball’s most durable star is hardly excessive. The Yankees would be smart to sign Semien at his natural position of SS at that price, whereas they’d be complete fools to sign Correa and end up spending $100m on the trio of Correa, Stanton, and Cole across several seasons where they’re in their mid and late 30s.
Particularly with two of their best prospects playing SS, signing Correa to a massive deal might be even worse than the Mets trading 20 cheap, controllable years of 4 young players for the right to pay Lindor $22m in 2021, then $341m from 2022 through 2031. —And when you threaten to outdo the Mets in this regard, just let it go.
28rings
this might blow up in their face – if the new CBA gets rid of the luxury tax, adds a DH and adds a minimum salary floor, the salaries could skyrise – especially with all the inflation from the fake money the government keeps printing (anyone buy steaks at the supermarket or gasoline lately?) … like Dave Winfield’s outrageous 10 year contract in 1981, Fernando Tatis’ 14 year deal might end up being a bargain… if teams like Tampa and San Diego are forced to increase their payroll, they might decide to put all the extra money they have to spend into one player and grab one of the top SS and move the SS they already have to DH. on the other side, if the new CBA features a hard cap instead like the NBA, NFL and NHL have, the Yankees might not have the money available to sign anyone.
JackStrawb
The new CBA won’t get rid of the luxury tax, though. Team owners’ opening salvo was to actually reduce it, to around $180m. With everyone except the Dodgers treating it as a de facto salary cap, it’s not going anywhere.
Expect a lot of bluster, then a little movement around the edges.
Patrick OKennedy
Yeah, the luxury tax is not going away. The owners’ proposal to reduce the threshold is a complete non starter- probably in response to the players’ proposal to add a tax on the lower end- i.e. a salary floor, which the owners also included.
The tax has become a de facto salary cap, with every team, including the Dodgers, getting under the threshold to reset the penalties. It may get hard-er but it’s not going to turn into an absolute cap. Even the NBA has 11 different exceptions for teams to bust the cap.
Say there is a dollar for dollar tax above $ 250M payroll, and 50% tax from 225- 250M, then the same 100% tax below $ 100 M. That would do more to improve “competitive balance” than just taxing the rich. It would make revenue sharing recipients actually spend their welfare dollars on player salaries.
JackStrawb
Interesting points overall, but I wouldn’t call them welfare dollars. The New York Yankees can’t exist without the Kansas City Royals, certainly not at the scale they do now. I suppose you could have a league of something like six superteams, and a tier below that, but I doubt the Yankees would continue to be the cash cow they are now under that arrangement. Such an arrangement would also jeopardize the antitrust exemption the Yankees enjoy and that guarantees them massive profits.
A salary floor also precludes teams from saving money then gearing up for a push, or using that money in the draft or the IFA market. —I’d rather the rich teams pay more of their fair share of the costs of running a league with 30 teams, some of which are unlucky enough to play in Pittsburgh or Kansas City.
After all, if the Yankees or Dodgers were serious about competitive baseball, on principle they’d reject their antitrust exemption out of hand.
Austinmac
It’s no coincidence the Yankees don’t win under Hal. He cares about money instead of winning. Go away Hal.
slider32
I think the Yanks were in on Seager and Simien but Cashman has the feeling they want to go elsewhere so he changed course. Simmons seems to be the target now, and he will spend more money on a starting pitcher, first , catcher, and a centerfielder..
Joe says...
I couldn’t disagree more about Simmons. I’d just as soon have Wade. If they go the stop gap free agent route, Galvis is my pick.
slider32
O’kay, Galvis
whyhayzee
Must. Not. Criticize. yankees.
Joe says...
You can do it whyhayzee!!!
whyhayzee
I’m trying so hard for self improvement in this area. I’m constantly”monitoring” myself.
DakotaJoe
Trevor Story had a down year in 2021 and since he’s played his whole career in Colorado he might benefit from a 1-2 year deal at say $18-20M a year to establish his real value.
JackStrawb
Maybe, but there’s no way at all Story’s taking a 2 year deal for that kind of money unless he’s hiding a career-ending injury of some sort.
An excellent 2022 season away from Coors would once again make him a 6 WAR shortstop, albeit at age 30. That’s worth roughly what Marcus Semien’s going to get, plus an extra year.
Put another way, even if in 2022 he has as bad a season as he’s ever had, he’ll still pick up 1/20m in 2023. He has almost nothing to gain by signing a 2 year deal this offseason–and a hundred million to lose, potentially.
JoeBrady
None of the big-5 that the author is talking, is taking a one-year deal, or anything close to that. I don’t think any of them are getting less than maybe $120M.
DakotaJoe
Joe, maybe but we’ll see. Story for his career in Colorado is slashing .303/.369./603. But away he’s .241/.310/.442. That’s a huge difference. Of the five he’s the one guy I think may need to take a one year deal. LeMahieu took a friendly deal and it worked out for him. I think the wild card in all this is what happens with the CBA.
Dustyslambchops23
No way story gets less than 4 years
DakotaJoe
He may get more than four years but for how much? Did you see how much Arenado’s numbers dropped this year in his first year out of Colorado? If I’m a GM I’m expecting anymore maybe a little better than the .241/.310/.442 he has slashed for his career on the road. How much would you offer him if you were the GM?
JoeBrady
DJ’s OPS+ at Colorado was 93. Story’s is 112, and plays a GG SS. In Aug/Sept, his OPS was .909. It’s a given that his OPS will decline after he leaves Mile High. But I see no weaknesses in his game. I’m expecting a .835 OPS, good glove, few injuries, and a 6-year contract, starting at age 29, is not a big concern.
Dustyslambchops23
Just means they aren’t pushing the market and aren’t going to be used to bid against themselves.
Doesn’t mean they won’t be in on Seager and Correa, I think Correa ends up in a yanks uniform and they use a SS prospect to fill another hole.
Just don’t see them sitting this one out.
whyhayzee
It’s always hard to pick out the Nolan Ryan, Carlton Fisk, Omar Vizquel, even Tommy John players when they’re younger. Guys who keep in keepin’ on.
Coach Franco
I’m a constructively critical Yankee fan – I believe success starts with the expectations you put on yourself as a player and as a team. I believe my beloved Yankees (until they win another World Series) are a collection of prima donnas. How so? If you remove 2009, the influence of Gene ‘Stick’ Michaels and suspicion of steroid use, the last World Series the Yankees won was in 1978. Winning fixes everything!
Coach Franco
In 2009, I’m taking ARod at his word that he didn’t use performance enhancing drugs. patch.com/new-york/downtown-nyc/woke-conversation-…
to4
Baez or Story would suit nice in NY ! Story would go nicely with long time former teammate LeMahieu.
1.LeMahieu 3B
2.Story SS
3.Judge RF
4.Stanton DH
5.Rizzo/Olson 1B
6.Torres 2B
7.Gallo LF
8.Sánchez C
9.A cheap CF option
Rick Pernell
Signing long term contracts brings back memories.
1. Rodriguez at the end of his career.
2. Sabathia at the end of his career.
3. Teixeira at the end of his career.
JoeBrady
Cashman’s comments are completely meaningless. Very few GMs ever state their true intentions. It would stupid for Cashman to say ‘we’re going to sign the best SS money can buy’. Same with Bloom. He could be in the MRI room with Story, as we speak, and wouldn’t say a word.
mike156
There’s a logic to the Yankees skipping the top-dollar shortstops. I don’t believe it’s true that every Yankee fan insists that every year, the Yankees spend on the filet mignon only. We do like young talent, and, if either of the prospects pan out, that would be preferred to an extremely expensive free agent. A stopgap signing for a year or two, fine.
Mario93
Yankee fans still think George Steinbrenner runs this team, and not his cheap son. Told them, they wouldn’t listen.. They got under the tax to go right back over ?that’s not how cheap Jr. conducts his business. The father would literally buy a World Series, did anything to keep the power and respect for the Yankee name.
Jr… Wants to keep a few extra change in his bank, rather then maintaining the power, respect and honour that’s his father left behind for him.
Don’t come at me with the excuses, I’m a Jays fan and I’m telling you this.. It’s not just any other team it’s the “New York Yankees”.. When Jeter, Posada, Mariano were out there, even if you didn’t like the Yankees they truly demanded your respect. Yankees were the face of baseball.. I’m honestly proud I grew up watching true Yankee greats, knowing about George Steinbrenner… Those days are truly gone. They truly are.
To not be who you were designed to be, to not maintain the same level of power, prestige and respect that your father left you with, is to me a blasphemy on Jr’s part. It’s a blasphemy to the brand of the Yankees, the aura of the Yankees and a blasphemy to his own father.
chuck123
Current NYY team window is closing. Either they are saying that to lower the price or get ready for another season with flawed players and bad defense. Hal is no George. Their minor leaguer short stops have potential but no guarantee they can succeed at the major league level. So frustrating
SportsFan0000
Looks like another “you snoozed you lose” situation for the Yankees.
True, the Yankees roster construction is poor and needs improvement in multiple areas.
Big gamble hoping for “prospects” to morph into Correa or Seager type players
Yankees over value many of their players and prospects like Frazier and Andujar
Yankees blew it by not headlining a few trades with Frazier and Andujar.
The values of both players have dropped through the basement.
Inside Out
The way they are talking about these SS prospects is the same way they spoke about Clint Frazier and we all know how that worked out. Sounds more like posturing through the media as Yankees wait to see how low the moronic owners force the luxury tax cap. I hope they sign no one for SS so we can watch both prospects crumble into oblivion
SportsFan0000
Cash don’t sign a top SS.
Blue Jays, Rays, Red Sox, Astros, White Sox fans Thank you!!!!!
slider32
Yanks will be fine even if they did nothing, they won 92 games last year with their whole infield have bad years. Only Stanton and Judge played up to their baseball card so to speak. They also have Sevy more removed from Tommy John. Frangraphs has them near the top in metrics right now.
SportsFan0000
Yeah right lol! I am monitoring the Power Ball numbers when it goes over 200M also.
Doesn’t meant that I will get it lol!
Ken In Sac
I would say the FO is lying but the Yanks do the opposite of what their team actually needs. They’ve been needing a SS, left handed hitter(s), catcher and CF for years.
Poster formerly known as . . .
To those saying that it’s stupid to put confidence in highly rated shortstop prospects instead of investing $300M+ into a free agent shortstop with an extensive injury history, and to those saying it’s too soon to bring Peraza up to the bigs, I’ll mention that Yankee fans were grousing all year about Cashman giving away Garrett Whitlock to the Red Sox in the Rule 5 draft. Now it looks like Whitlock might be entering Boston’s rotation in 2022.
He never pitched a game above AA, where he pitched a total of 14 starts in 2019, and he didn’t pitch at all in 2020.
Looks like Mr. Bloom has brought the Tampa Bay policy to Boston: bring them up and use them while they’re young, cheap and good and don’t waste years of production on protracted “seasoning” in the minors.
bcjd
Back in the gory days of the Yankee dynasty, “monitoring” meant they were waiting for all the other teams to work out the market price, and then they’d swoop in at 10% higher for whatever prize they coveted. It’s been a decade or more since that was there M.O., but I expect that’s what we’re seeing here.
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I doubt it. That was George’s approach. It’s not his son’s.
ashlandcab
Can someone see if Cashman is awake, everyone is bettering themselves except the Yanks ?? I hope Cashman isn’t satisfied with the team we have and Cash please don’t think Aaron Hicks will be any different this year, he might even get hurt before spring training, USELESS !!! Cashman just reminder we need a CF, catcher,SS or bring up Volpe, 1st Base, and a #2 pitcher would be nice !