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Mariners To Sign Sergio Romo

By Steve Adams | March 23, 2022 at 9:48am CDT

The Mariners have agreed to a deal with free-agent righty Sergio Romo, tweets Jesse Sanchez of MLB.com. It’s a big league deal that comes with a $2MM base salary, tweets Joel Sherman of the New York Post. The deal is pending a physical. Romo is represented by Meister Sports Management.

Sergio Romo | D. Ross Cameron-USA TODAY Sports

The 39-year-old Romo spent the 2021 campaign with the division-rival A’s, where he posted a 4.67 ERA with a 23.2% strikeout rate against an 8.1% walk rate. It marked a downturn both in terms of ERA and strikeout rate for the 14-year big league veteran, but Romo continued to be among the game’s best in terms of limiting hard contact. His 84.9 mph average exit velocity ranked in the 98th percentile of big league pitchers, and Romo’s 23.3% opponents’ hard-hit rate was the best in the Majors.

A soft-tossing, sidearming slider specialist, Romo has long flummoxed right-handed opponents and kept lefties in check more effectively than most sidearm righties. He wasn’t quite as dominant against either in ’21 as he has been in prior seasons, but neither managed much to do much damage against him overall. Right-handed opponents posted a .240/.290/.420 batting line, while lefties hit .235/.330/.376 — both good for a .305 wOBA.

Romo’s spike in ERA this past season was due, at least in part, to an uncharacteristic dip in strand rate; after leaving 77% of runners on base throughout his career (and 78% in 2020 with Minnesota), Romo saw that rate drop to 69.3%. He also put himself at a disadvantage by throwing a first-pitch strike at just a 59.8% clip — the third-lowest mark of his career. If Romo can get ahead more frequently and maintain his outstanding levels of weak contact, that problematic strand rate will quite likely regress toward his career levels.

The Seattle bullpen was already strong, following a breakout from Paul Sewald and a resurgence from fellow righty Drew Steckenrider. The Mariners will also get both Ken Giles and Andres Munoz back from Tommy John surgery, giving them a pair of power arms capable of reaching triple-digit readings on the radar gun. Righty Diego Castillo was closing games in Tampa Bay before being acquired at last year’s trade deadline, and the club was surely encouraged by the progress made from starter-turned-reliever Erik Swanson.

That said, the Mariners also lost a key arm in recent days when right-hander Casey Sadler underwent a shoulder procedure that will cost him the entire 2022 season. Sadler, 31, posted a comical 0.67 ERA in 40 1/3 innings last year, and while he would never have been expected to replicate that level of dominance, he was surely viewed as a vital member of manager Scott Servais’ bullpen. Romo gives the M’s a veteran replacement for Sadler — one who’ll provide quite a different look than some of his new power-armed teammates. Going from Romo’s 85-86 mph “fastball” to triple-digit heaters from Giles or Munoz in the late stages of a game won’t be an easy transition for opponents.

With Romo on board, the Mariners’ projected payroll ticks up to about $106MM — its highest point since 2019 but still miles shy of the franchise-record $158MM. It’s still possible they’ll boost that total a bit further with another free-agent pickup — though the market has been largely picked over by now — or via a trade acquisition, though much of the team’s heavy lifting appears complete this winter. The M’s were known to be eyeing an experienced option to round out the rotation and have yet to make such an addition, however, and there’s always some room for even further bullpen depth to be added — particularly with expanded 28-man rosters to begin the season.

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  1. NWMarinerHawk

    3 years ago

    Nice!!!! Good fit. Good contrast to our 95+ guys

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  2. Tacoshells

    3 years ago

    Nice pick up love Romo

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    • Kruk it

      3 years ago

      He’s gotta be more like 59

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  3. 5TUNT1N

    3 years ago

    Always happy for this guy one of my low key fav players of their championship runs! Great pitcher throughout his career, and always looked like he was fiercely competing and having a great time doing it!

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  4. For Love of the Game

    3 years ago

    Good low-risk signing.

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  5. stymeedone

    3 years ago

    Low cost addition and experience for the bullpen.

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  6. Painful itch

    3 years ago

    Nice. How about a 5th starter now!

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    • Tacoshells

      3 years ago

      Trade for montas or manea

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    • BuddyBoy

      3 years ago

      I don’t want them to trade for a back end starter really. If they could get at least a guy that is in that #3 range, then it would make sense. Otherwise, I think I’d just go with Brash (who seems ready to contribute) and just skip his starts with the days off initially to limit his innings somewhat.

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      • Tony Carbone

        3 years ago

        The notion that we need a 5th starter when we have 17 of them in house drives me nuts.
        I’ve said it before and I’ll say it until I’m blue in the face.
        Gonzales should not pitch behind Ray and Lord help us if we have a lefty pitching out of the 5th, a set up of 3 straight lefties with Marco being the 3rd lefty.
        If Dipoto is going to go cheap and not get a righty to split Ray and Gonzales then I’d like to see Gilbert pitch out of the 2.

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    • 5TUNT1N

      3 years ago

      He has experience as an opener!

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  7. JRamHOF

    3 years ago

    Not the third baseman I was expecting the Mariners to sign.

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    • Tacoshells

      3 years ago

      You have E Suarez. You don’t need a 3rd baseman !

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      • outinleftfield

        3 years ago

        You have E Suarez. You still need a 3rd baseman! – FIXED

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        • JRamHOF

          3 years ago

          This is true @outinleftfield. I was actually referring to the one time he appeared as a third baseman for the Rays though. Wild move by Cash

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    • Gk_holiday

      3 years ago

      Seattle already acquired a 3B buddy!

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  8. Cora the Destroya

    3 years ago

    Mariners making some good moves but they’ll still have to do more to compete in that division.

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    • mrnotsoniceguy

      3 years ago

      The Astros got weaker, the A’s are a disaster. . The Angels may be competitive but It’s a very winnable division for Seattle

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      • martevious

        3 years ago

        Angels? Competitive? Those words aren’t used together very often.

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        • marinersblue96

          3 years ago

          I really like what the Angels have done to improve the bull pen. Their lineup is lethal but the rotation is the weak point. I would rather depend on a top tier prospect than players coming back from reconstructive surgery.

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        • FSF

          3 years ago

          If Moreno wasn’t such a cheapskate, he would have made the right call to sign Robbie Ray for the Angels. Not sure what they’re thinking in SoCal but winning never seems to be that important as opposed to being a miser with their checkbook.

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      • BuddyBoy

        3 years ago

        The Angels pitching staff is still not good and the Rangers is still a work in progress. If they were getting prime Syndergaard, sure, but the guys arm falls off anytime he pitches. The Angels and Rangers should both score runs though.

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  9. Captain Judge99

    3 years ago

    Sergio has one of the best sliders I’ve ever seen, love that guy!

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    • Tony Carbone

      3 years ago

      Jeff Nelson’s was pretty sick..

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  10. Zachary D Manprin

    3 years ago

    Great news for A’s fans.

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    • mrnotsoniceguy

      3 years ago

      That right? Who on the single A’s going to try hitting anyone in the major leagues? Didn’t know A’s had fans either.

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      • oaklandfan22

        3 years ago

        Lol

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  11. rb305

    3 years ago

    Everyone loves Sergio, wishing him the best in Seattle.

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  12. ARC 2

    3 years ago

    Which Romo do you get? The one that is good or the one that can’t find the strike zone?

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    • Fred Park

      3 years ago

      ARC we signed the one that is good. In fact, better than ever.
      This is just a good day and things are looking good in the pen.
      SPs are all right, too, but we might get one more.

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  13. Dorothy_Mantooth

    3 years ago

    The Suarez & Winker acquisition should really improve the Mariners offensive output but it sure feels like the Mariners could still use a little more offense. It looks like DH will be a revolving door for the Mariners; Jerry should be targeting one more big bat that can slide into a semi-regular DH role. Also, the Mariners will need some improvement from their youngsters at the plate to ensure they can compete for the division. While they were real close to the playoffs last year, they actually had a sizable, negative run differential in 2021. That needs to flip-flop this season if Seattle truly wants to compete for the AL West title or even a wildcard playoff berth.

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    • slund24

      3 years ago

      Hopefully by May, Lewis will be ready to become the DH for the season.

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    • AlienBob

      3 years ago

      It is sounding like Julio is going to play CF, His bat will help. Kelenic and Raleigh will be better, too.

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    • BuddyBoy

      3 years ago

      I think it would be a mistake to add a pure DH to the roster. At some point (possibly May) they will have Winker, Lewis, Kelenic, Haniger, and JRod in the outfield. They will need that DH spot for one of those guys while keeping them all fresh.

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  14. FSF

    3 years ago

    This team seriously needed to stop dumpster diving and go for it this year. Not sure what the offseason thinking was.

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    • Cosmo2

      3 years ago

      I’d show patience. This really their coming out year. They shouldn’t be in full on go for it mode until next year or the next, after some youngsters have been promoted and had time to acclimate. Patience or they’ll turn into the Padres of last year or the Reds of the last few.

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      • Tony Carbone

        3 years ago

        Patience?
        It’s been 20 years of patience and if you don’t like using all of those missed playoffs because they aren’t on Dipoto then let’s remember the 6 years of no playoffs under Dipoto.
        Patience?
        If the new guys don’t improve the Mariners and the expanded playoff format doesn’t get us there (missing by the obligatory 2 games) then what are we doing?
        Patience?

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        • muskie73

          3 years ago

          “6 years of no playoffs under Dipoto”

          Could be worst.

          Over the same period the Angels have six straight losing seasons, MLB’s longest current streak.

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        • FSF

          3 years ago

          Do Mariners’ fans really want to gauge their success by being able to declare:

          “At least we’re not as bad as the Angels!”???

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    • BuddyBoy

      3 years ago

      Yeah, they only added two All Stars in the field and the AL Cy Young winner. Not to mention a guy that hit 30 homers in his worst ML season. What a bunch of dumpster diving….get real!

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      • FSF

        3 years ago

        I think that’s my point. They added all that but still isn’t enough and they seem to have plenty of payroll to work with. As Comos2 suggest, perhaps they’re just considering this a throw away year to some extent.

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        • marinersblue96

          3 years ago

          M’s will also have three of the top overall prospects coming up this year. Julio, Brash, and Kirby. And have plenty of room in their payroll and a deep farm to add key players at the trading deadline. JP has already shown he would rather trade for talent than overpaying in FA.

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        • FSF

          3 years ago

          Yes, and you’d be lucky if even one of them had an above average season. That’s why they’re “prospects”. Everyone can dream about what their potential is until they actually play the games and then, the vast majority are mediocre to “cup of coffee” players.

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        • marinersblue96

          3 years ago

          Not really. Mayo has said Kirby is the best and most advanced pitcher from that class. It would be shock if he wasn’t a solid #3 by the end of season and Brash has the best fastball in the minors he will be at least a serviceable back end of the rotation starter this year.

          Rodriguez has star written all over him and will be an impact player from day one. He is light years advanced compared to Kelenic, which others have compared him to which is completely lazy analysist.

          These are not your average prospects and is a mistake to treat them as such.

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        • FSF

          3 years ago

          Dude, every fanbase talks like that about their top prospects. Heck, Jo Adell was the #2 overall can’t miss prospect and what has he done in a reasonable portion of two different years? Nothing.

          Since you’re a Mariners fan and I’m a Yanks fan, I will throw out a name that was one the most “CAN’T MISS” prospects of the past decade and way more highly regarded than any of the chumps you named.

          JESUS MONTERO

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        • marinersblue96

          3 years ago

          Jesus was never listed as a “Can’t Miss” Prospect there were always issues with his ability behind the plate and he ate his way out of the league.

          The best recent comparisons for Julio are Soto and Acuna.

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        • FSF

          3 years ago

          Let’s not try to rewrite history here. Yes, his defense was always questionable and many projected him to eventually settle in as DH, but his hitting was NEVER questioned by ANYONE.

          That you would compare JR to Soto or Acuna is INSANE and just shows how little you understand about grading prospects, but more importantly, how to gauge your expectations.

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        • slund24

          3 years ago

          Montero was always regarded as an eventual DH and never heard of him as a can’t miss. Heck, they traded him straight up for Pineda who had major question marks on him with injuries. His only above average skill as a prospect was hitting as he graded below average running, defense, and everything else. Julio Rodriguez grades as a much much bigger prospect with a higher ceiling and higher floor.

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        • KcsMsFan

          3 years ago

          What more do you want on offense? You have to have places for these guys to play. You can’t just expand your lineup to 10 or 11 hitters. With the outfield being full of solid hitters and rotating at DH… a .300 hitter at 1st, a .300 hitter at 2nd… a gold glove .260 hitter at short… a 40+ HR potential guy at 3rd… we maybe can improve catcher? But there aren’t a lot of great hitting catchers out there. I’m not sure where you think any new acquisitions are going to fit in. Your expectations are way too high.

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        • FSF

          3 years ago

          @slund24, if one can truly rake, defense, running and everything else doesn’t matter, especially if they are a DH. You know, a designated HITTER. In his limited time in the Majors, just prior to the trade, he had a near 1.000 OPS, albeit in limited play.

          Pineda was a highly prized player at the time with many teams inquiring about him in earnest. And he’s gone on to have a respectable career. Also, the pieces fit since the Yanks didn’t need another hitter (especially since the DH was also regularly being utilized) and the Mariners were always at the time looking for a strong controllable bat. You can pretend you know better with hindsight but your comments are not at all rooted in reality.

          You have no sense of history or accuracy if you don’t think that Montero wasn’t considered a can’t miss prospect as a hitter.

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        • myaccount2

          3 years ago

          @FSF- throwaway year? It’s a building year. Julio, Brash, and Kirby still haven’t debuted. We have the #1, 2, or 3 farm by every outlet I’ve seen rank the systems. We’re still seeing how Kelenic, Raleigh, Gilbert, Crawford, France, etc. continue developing.

          It’s not the year to go all out and it’s not a year to throw away either. Big moves like Ray and Winker are awesome and make us competitive, while smaller ones like Romo fill holes like the one Sadler’s injury just created.

          Dipoto’s MO is flexibility, both in terms of player style and roster construction. No need to go out and sign Correa, Bryant, and Story, too.

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        • FSF

          3 years ago

          Fine, the nomenclature can be whatever you want it to be. The point being, that they could or could have made a serious run but opted not to, whether due to not wanting to spend or trade chips.

          While Dipoto seems to be steering the Mariners in the right direction, this is what The Union was talking about when they say teams don’t want to compete. The Mariners can but are choosing not to for whatever reasons. As for Dipoto, it’s not like he’s got some stellar track record to rest on. He still hasn’t shown anything but some ability to trade and build a farm system. One that has yet to really impact the majors yet.

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        • slund24

          3 years ago

          How are the Mariners choosing not to? They signed the Cy YOung winner for a lot of money and traded for a couple NL all stars from last year. So they made trades and FA signings to improve the team. What more should they do?

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        • marinersblue96

          3 years ago

          Wow FSF you really are on a tangent. Good luck with that. Jesus had huge holes in his swing and he didn’t help the matter by getting grossly overweight. There were never top 10 overall prospect tag on him. I have no idea what circulations you were reading but they were not very good ones. Pineda was a valued prospect but that was due to the pathetic farm system, there were always injury concerns as his throwing motion was so violent.

          And multiple insiders have noted Rodriguez to both Soto and Acuna, so not so sure what what is so INSANE about the comp.

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        • FSF

          3 years ago

          @slund24, once again, I think the issue is that you think this is a legit 90 team club. Based on the runs scored and runs against, there record last year, all else being equal, should have theoretically been 76-86. And projections show them to be under .500 again. If it were a legit 90 win team, then their transactions and payroll might be defendable.

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        • FSF

          3 years ago

          @marinersblue96, it’s difficult to take you seriously with how little you know about baseball but:

          “Montero was Baseball America’s No. 4 prospect entering 2010. He ranked No. 3 in 2011 and fell to No. 6 in 2012.”

          All he did was rake throughout his minor league career. WAY better than the schmucks you guys want to hype up as sure fire bets. I’m not sure why you guys can’t get simple facts straight. It’s one thing to project and not be accurate. But these are historical FACTS that you are completely clueless on.

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        • Tony Carbone

          3 years ago

          Make the playoffs!
          No excuses.

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        • marinersblue96

          3 years ago

          Yankee fans always thinking their prospects are elite. I can’t count how many times I heard Gardner was the best OF in the game, and that Gary Sanchez was an elite catcher, or how their upcoming pitchers are going to dominate.

          When was the last time the Yankee’s actually developed an All-Star pitcher?

          And Montero was never in the same stratosphere as JR or Marte for that matter. What a complete joke. Montero had zero work ethic and was all a product of the NY hype machine. His first spring training in AZ showed that he had no desire to be great and he through a fit the following year when Seattle took a catcher with their 1st round pick. He was the epitome of an entitled athlete. Typical Yankee fan thinking your farm and prospects are elite when in reality they are barely middle of the road.

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        • FSF

          3 years ago

          Once again, all that gibberish is with the benefit of hindsight. Do you even have a clue of his minor league stats? Are you suggesting that these ranking organizations just massively pump up Yankee prospect rankings for some reason?

          It’s not just Yankee fans saying he was a top prospect. It was everyone in the baseball world at that time. That you don’t know that just shows how clueless you are. This was a guy that your team traded for and you don’t know. Sad!

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        • slund24

          3 years ago

          I’m not making any projections. You are saying they are choosing not to compete and this is a throw away year. Everyone else is saying they have made moves to compete right now by bringing in 3 All Stars from last season during the offseason and plan to graduate multiple of their top prospects. Sure, not every prospect turns out but these are some of the top in the game and they will likely be coming up this season. So again I ask, what more are you expecting from them to do? Last year they were a 90 win team that barely missed the playoffs but were a flawed team and spent the offseason trying to improve their weaknesses. Also, they are probably in the weakest division in baseball so playoffs are very doable.

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        • FSF

          3 years ago

          Bringing in those players might get them to roughly a 500 season, maybe slightly better. As for the “90 win team”, are you even reading the numerous posts I’ve said about those 90 wins? They were borne of luck and not true ability. They scored 4.3 runs per game and gave up 4.6 runs. The vast majority of times, that performance is not going to yield a winning record.

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        • slund24

          3 years ago

          Yes, I’ve read all of those and understand what you are saying. I’m asking what you are saying they should do since you are saying they aren’t trying? I know they had a big run differential. But they were a 90 win team. Their biggest weakness was offense and they brought in players to try and address those issues and brought in last years Cy Young winner to improve their rotation. They won 90 games and it easily could have been 80. Last year was a year of seeing what they had with their young players and now they are trying to compete. I’m not saying they are winning 90+ this year but I still don’t understand what you’re expecting they should have done? Trade the #3 overall prospect in baseball for someone? Who should they have traded their top prospects for that was available or who should they have signed that they had a chance at?

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        • FSF

          3 years ago

          Perhaps you see things differently, but I see a team teetering on not knowing exactly what to do. They have the players, with a few additions that could have been made, or maybe even a one year deal with Conforto that’s still out there. They could also explore the trade market for MLB ready players instead of doing the exact opposite. The Reds trade was a pretty good one.

          But it still leaves them somewhat in no man’s land. Could they compete for a playoff spot? Sure, but mostly because of all the spots available and even then their chances aren’t even that close to 50% in my opinion. With the As tearing down, Rangers still a year or two away, and the Angels perennial losers for one reason or another, this would have been a great year to strike IMO. And the AL Central leaves a lot to be desired as well for wildcard competition.

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        • outinleftfield

          3 years ago

          Less than 20% of top 50 prospects ever have even one 2.0 WAR season in their careers. 2.0 WAR is an average MLB player. Less than 5% ever have a 4.0 WAR season in their careers. 4.0 WAR is All Star level. One in 20. It is a huge mistake to treat these prospects like proven vets regardless of their prospect pedigree.

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        • outinleftfield

          3 years ago

          Montero was a 65-70 FV prospect. Going into the 2011 season only Trout, Harper, and Domonic Brown were a consensus higher rated prospects than Montero. Some had Jeremy Hellickson in that mix with Brown and Montero. All 3 are out of MLBl. Just goes to show that there ain’t no such thing as a can’t miss prospect. Just by way of comparison, Rodriguez is a 65-70 FV prospect depending on the rating service. Fangraphs, Baseball Prospectus, and Baseball America all have him at a 65 FV, while MLB has him at a 70 FV.

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        • outinleftfield

          3 years ago

          That is flat out wrong slund. With prospects they use a system that grades future value or FV. Montero was a 65 or 70 on every list. BA, BP, Fangraphs, MLB. Rodriguez is a 65 or 70 on every list.

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        • outinleftfield

          3 years ago

          As of today, Las Vegas projections are for the Mariners to win 84.5 games. DraftKings also has the the O/U at 84.5 wins. To me, that is very realistic. That leaves them on the outside looking in on a WC berth.

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        • slund24

          3 years ago

          As of right this second, the casino I’m looking at have the Over/Under for both the Red Sox and Mariners at 86.5 which is the 6th best record in AL

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        • Chester Copperpot

          3 years ago

          Jesus Montero was Baseball America’s #3 ranked overall prospect 2011.

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        • outinleftfield

          3 years ago

          Here are links.

          vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/win-totals/ 84.5

          sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/baseball/8867084… 83.5

          Same odds of winning the WS as the Angels.

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        • slund24

          3 years ago

          Guess I should load up at the casinos then and take the under if they are 3 games higher than Draft Kings.

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        • outinleftfield

          3 years ago

          beyondtheboxscore.com/2017/2/8/14520756/jesus-mont….

          Read this and then maybe you will understand.

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        • outinleftfield

          3 years ago

          Maybe you should refrain from commenting about things you obviously don’t understand.

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        • slund24

          3 years ago

          I didn’t want to go crazy but I just put $110 on the under M’s at 86.5 wins. I hope they have a good season but if they don’t at least I will win $100 because I got them at 86.5 when some other sites have them at 83.5. Seemed like a good bet to make. 3 wins is a lot.

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        • Selah Rick 2

          3 years ago

          I wouldn’t read to much into run differential or on the difference in runs scored versus runs against. While they had a rotating door in the bottom of the line-up, specifically 6,7,8 and 9 spots, there was literally no production. And at times being blown out. Look at the Padres series and Houston series specifically. They filled those wholes and lengthen the lineup dramatically with proven hitters.

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  15. aragon

    3 years ago

    Too much for not much!

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  16. LFGMets (Metsin7)

    3 years ago

    The problem with the Mariners is that they overachieved so much last year that they will probably end with the same record this year even with all the extra editions. The team couldnt hit, pitch, defense was mediocre, but the bullpen had a decent showing due to guys having career years. Winning close 1 run games all the time really showed why having a good manager is important, in contrast to the Mets old manager Luis Rojas who lost almost every 1 run game even though we spent more than double what the Mariners spent

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    • FSF

      3 years ago

      This is spot on. The Mariners scored 4.3 runs per game and gave up 4.6 runs per game in 2021. By all accounts, they should have wound up with a losing record, which is what ZIPs was projecting in Feb-2022 for the 2022 season.

      They certainly haven’t done much since to move that needle. I think Mariners fans are high on their chances because of the massive random luck the team got throughout the season last year.

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      • KcsMsFan

        3 years ago

        It’s not just about addition it is also about subtraction. We eliminated our lack of rotating productivity at 2nd base and left field with a .300 30+ HR hitter in left and we eliminated our lack of rotating productivity at 2nd with a .300 on base machine. You aren’t giving enough credit with how much better we got in our lineup. Not to mention what Julio and Lewis will provide essentially replacing the DH position which was a mess for us last year as well. We got the reigning Cy Young winner to replace a wildly inefficient Kikuchi and the 5th spot will be a wash at worst. We will get a full productive season from Marco which is also a big increase in productivity. You are horribly undervaluing the improvements of this roster.

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        • FSF

          3 years ago

          Once again, you are ignoring the fact that they randomly won a lot of games last year by luck and timing of their runs, which aren’t controllable. That’s why ZIPs projects a losing record in 2022, understanding that they have those prospects.

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  17. jessaumodesto

    3 years ago

    Do the A’s get anything for this?

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  18. Sunday Lasagna

    3 years ago

    I just don’t see what everyone else seems to be seeing. Robbie Ray has had exactly two “ace” level seasons, Chris Flexen came from nowhere and until proves otherwise is a one year wonder, Marco Gonzalez is an average starter at best, and Justice Sheffield has shown nothing so far. Logan Gilbert has huge upside, but if it were a straight up deal, I’d take the A’s starters of Montas, Manaea, Kaprelian, Irvin and Jefferies over the M’s starters. I’d take the Astros starters Verlander, Valdez, Garcia, Urquidy & Javier over the M’s starters too. We will know soon enough, but I think the M’s rotation is 3ed best in the division and needed more than just Ray replacing kikuchi.

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    • marinersblue96

      3 years ago

      LOL, yeah two years of “ACE” which including the most dominate pitcher in the AL playing in the bandbox stadiums of the AL East, moving to a pitchers park, in a pitchers park division. I would take the A’s pitcher over only Flexen and definitely not over Gilbert, Ray, Gonzo, Gilbert, Brash, or Kirby. That is plain silly talk. M’s and ChiSox have the best BP in the AL and 3rd isn’t really close.

      They signed and traded for (2) All starts and the throw in for the Reds trade hit 30 HR in a down year.

      By the time it’s mid season M’s will have the best rotation in the division.

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      • outinleftfield

        3 years ago

        Ray has a 3.93 ERA with a 4.29 FIP the past 3 seasons. He is a middle of the rotation starter that had a career year in 2021. Even then he was 7th in ERA, 8th in WHIP, and not in the top 10 in FIP. I truly hope for the Mariners sake that he can repeat it, but since his FIP points to regression and he has not had a season even remotely close to his 2021 level of performance since 2017, I am not sure that he can and that one season certainly does not make him an Ace.

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      • Sunday Lasagna

        3 years ago

        @marinersblue96 Unless you are Kershaw, deGrom, Verlander, Scherzer level pitchers, the fall off after a Cy Young season is remarkable. Just look at some of the winners in the past decade, Dickey, Price, Arrietta, Keuchel, Porcello, Snell, Bieber, all saw their ERA a full run above their CY season in the following season. So, do you really think Robbie Ray is a Kershaw, deGrom, Verlander, Scherzer type or is he one of the crowd that came back to reality after their elite year.

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    • Tony Carbone

      3 years ago

      I think Gonzales is a real solid pitcher just not a 2 and certainly not behind the lefty Ray.
      If fact if Gonzales is the 3 we’ve got a real nice rotation.

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      • marinersblue96

        3 years ago

        I agree with that completely, Gonzo is a solid major league pitcher and can eat innings. Seems to get stronger as the year goes along. We need one of Gilbert, Kirby, or Brash to really pop this year. It is nice having the option of so many young arms who are going to contribute this year.

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  19. Get Off My Mound

    3 years ago

    As an A’s lifer, I’m excited to see what the Mariners are gonna do this year. That roster is very intriguing.

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  20. paindonthurt

    3 years ago

    I’m not even going to look at his bio. I’m just going to guess this guy is 47 years old. Seems he has been around for a bit.

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  21. SupremeZeus

    3 years ago

    Brawley.

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  22. outinleftfield

    3 years ago

    The Mariners seem to be settling for 2nd and 3rd tier players. In this case, 4th or 5th tier. Not sure they have a legitimate chance to compete against the Astros for the West crown. The Rangers went for it but seem like they are a few top notch starters and a year away. Sadly, the Angels and As have already conceded the season.

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    • marinersblue96

      3 years ago

      In what way is Ray a 2/3/4/ or 5th tier player? Or Adam Frazier or trading for Winker? They don’t need to block their elite prospects for overpriced FA this year. If they don’t pan out or take longer than expected then they have the resources to add. later this year and next year.

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      • outinleftfield

        3 years ago

        Yes. Ray had a 3.93 ERA/4.29 FIP the past 3 seasons. 7th in ERA, 8th in WHIP, and not in the top 10 in FIP last season. His FIP in 2021 points to regression in 2022. Definitely a 2nd tier guy. Winker is a top tier hitter who ranked 21st among OF overall and 9th among LF with a 2.7 WAR because of negative value on defense. 2nd tier. Adam Frazier ranked 11th among 2B last season. Solidly 2nd tier. Suarez was a replacement level player last season. 3rd or 4th tier. Does that answer your question?

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  23. Steve(shs22)

    3 years ago

    Twins fan here.

    Loved Romo’s first season as a Twin, Much better than the 2nd run.

    He made a lot of batters look dumbfounded his change up is also great but that sinking FB tops out at 86 Mph or so.

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  24. Ignorant Son-of-a-b

    3 years ago

    There are some major sour grapes Yankee fans on this thread. I’m sorry that their team lost the off-season but I guess they now feel entitled to come over here and vent their frustrations by throwing shade on the M’s off-season and player acquisition.

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    • FSF

      3 years ago

      I’m just trying to help your clueless team contend. It’s sad that I’m more interested in the Mariners fielding a contender than their own fans. But that’s probably par for the course where PNW sports fans are concerned.

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      • Selah Rick 2

        3 years ago

        We will be sure to return the favor when the Yankees get blown out by the Ray’s, Boston and Toronto.

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        • FSF

          3 years ago

          No need. Yankee fans actually care about their team trying to actually compete, so no help needed there. But thanks for the kind thoughts!

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  25. Jarrid

    3 years ago

    The mariners won all those one run games by having a dominate bullpen. You act like they flipped a coin and got lucky. They most likely won’t have as many close games this year, but if they do you can still count on them winning most of them. They added 2 triple digit flame throwers as well. Losing Sadler sucks, but this signing will help with that.
    Btw anyone who has seen julio play knows he’s got superstar written all over him. He also carries himself very well and loves baseball. Barring injuries he’s as close to can’t miss as you can get.

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    • FSF

      3 years ago

      You really need to do more research if you think the correlation is that strong. There are probably 5 teams with better bullpen ERAs that had LOSING records in one run games. As for JR, he may very well be all that, but he has yet to prove it in the Bigs and the list of top prospects that have flamed out is long and extensive. Wasn’t Kelenic supposed to be a star by now, if not a superstar?

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      • Selah Rick 2

        3 years ago

        Yea Kelenic took a half a year to get going. But he did eventually get going. He accidentally hit 14 homers while getting comfortable. So look at his last 2 months. And he was just removed from high-school 3 years prior. So I think your reaching on a Kelenic comparison.

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        • FSF

          3 years ago

          I’m not suggesting that he’s not going to be good. We’ll have to wait and see. But the bottom line is he had a -1.8 WAR in half a season. Do you know how bad you have to be to do that? And only his last month was above average. Lots of Seattle folk, including the former President, was saying that he was ready to begin the season in the Bigs last year. Ackley was supposed to be a stud. Smoak was supposed to be a stud. Montero was supposed to be a stud. You get my point here?

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        • Selah Rick 2

          3 years ago

          Have to understand all the names you just mentioned were brought up by past management in desperate scenarios. Past GM figured 1st round pick equals MLB ready. Any prospects worth having were either traded or rushed to the bigs. Different times now. I actually get nervous when a kid gets the call because of past experiences. And I think JD is being very cautious also. It’s why his entire lineup was acquired via trade.

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  26. 5TUNT1N

    3 years ago

    Lookup his walk up music el mechon. I love it!

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