With a little over a week until Opening Day, the Padres still have a highly uncertain outfield mix. Michael Conforto and Brett Gardner remain available in free agency, but the Friars are an estimated $6MM shy of the $230MM base luxury tax threshold and are reportedly reluctant to exceed that figure.
If they’re not content with their internal outfield options, a trade may be the better way for the front office to go. Dennis Lin of the Athletic reports the Padres are willing to entertain offers on some of their catchers or starting pitchers. Dealing from their depth in either area wouldn’t necessarily mean the Padres bring back a big league caliber outfielder in return, but it seems the front office is at least open to exploring those possibilities.
Neither development comes as a surprise. During the lockout, MLBTR noted the potential for San Diego to entertain trades from both the catching group and rotation depth. The Padres currently have four catchers on the 40-man roster, all of whom have reasonable claims to a spot on the MLB club.
Austin Nola is the presumptive starter. Luis Campusano is a top prospect who doesn’t have much more to prove in the minors after hitting .295/.365/.541 in Triple-A. Víctor Caratini is coming off a rough season, but he’s had success in the past and works well with Yu Darvish. Jorge Alfaro would appear to be fourth on the depth chart, but San Diego acquired him from the Marlins and he can’t be optioned to the minor leagues, meaning the Padres need to keep him on the active roster or designate him for assignment. The Friars presumably won’t carry all four on the Opening Day roster, even with rosters expanded from 26 to 28 players in the early going, so it’s natural they’d be open to dealing from that group.
On the pitching side of the equation, San Diego is set to open the year with a starting group of Darvish, Joe Musgrove, Blake Snell, Mike Clevinger and Nick Martínez. That wouldn’t leave spots for any of Chris Paddack, Reiss Knehr or former top prospects Ryan Weathers and MacKenzie Gore. All four of those pitchers have options remaining, and the Friars could certainly opt to stockpile depth after seeing a series of rotation injuries contribute to a second-half collapse last year. Lin doesn’t specify any names whom the Padres are particularly inclined to move, to be clear. Yet as with the catching surplus, there may at least be enough depth for president of baseball operations A.J. Preller to consider a move — particularly if one of those arms can bring back MLB-ready outfield help.
Trent Grisham is locked in as the center fielder, with Will Myers set to handle right field on most days. San Diego saw Tommy Pham depart in free agency, leaving Jurickson Profar and the newly-acquired Matt Beaty among the favorites for playing time in left. That’s not a great group of corner players for a hopeful contender, and the Pads have shopped both Myers and first baseman Eric Hosmer throughout the offseason. Lin writes they’re still exploring possible Hosmer deals, although moving much of the remaining four years and $59MM on his deal has proven too tough a task so far. It’d probably be easier to move Myers, but that’d just further thin the corner outfield group.
Aside from Myers, Profar, Beaty and Grisham, the Padres don’t really have outfield options on the 40-man roster. Lin writes that manager Bob Melvin has already ruled out the possibility of moving second baseman Jake Cronenworth off the position, something the organization considered but never tried last offseason. Alfaro has some experience in left field but shouldn’t be more than an emergency option there. Trayce Thompson and Nomar Mazara are in camp as non-roster invitees and could both get big league looks, but neither is necessarily an upgrade over Profar and Beaty.
More interesting than the possibility of any of those veterans getting a spot is the chance for top prospect CJ Abrams to break camp with the club. A consensus top 15 prospect, Abrams only has 42 games of Double-A experience. He impressed there last year, hitting .296/.363/.420 with a pair of home runs and 13 stolen bases, but his season was cut short when he fractured his left tibia in late June. That kept him from seeing his first Triple-A action.
Nevertheless, both Lin and Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune have written this week the organization is considering carrying the 21-year-old on the MLB roster. That’s certainly not a given, as both Lin and Acee hear that some with the Padres believe he’d benefit from more time in the minors. Not only does he have limited experience against high level pitching, Abrams has never played a professional inning outside of the middle infield.
Given his athleticism — evaluators credit him with top-of-the-scale speed — there’s a belief he could handle all three outfield spots. Melvin acknowledged this afternoon he might give Abrams some consideration behind Grisham in center field (Acee link). Keeping him in the majors would allow San Diego some cover behind Cronenworth and Ha-Seong Kim in the middle infield while Fernando Tatís Jr. is on the injured list. Yet there’d certainly be risk in putting Abrams into a major league outfield right out of the gate, even in a utility capacity, and there’s an argument to be made for the Friars starting him at Triple-A El Paso. It’ll be known soon enough what route Preller, Melvin and the rest of the San Diego brass choose to take with the Opening Day roster.
raisinsss
According to Boras, Conforto’s issue in getting a deal has been a shoulder injury he sustained during defensive drills back in January rather than the draft pick or salary expectations. But he’s healthy now. From tonight’s Mets TV broadcast.
Key words: ‘According to Boras’
YankeesBleacherCreature
Well any team interested in signing him is going to want his latest medicals and have him do a physical. I can’t see what Boras has to gain by being untruthful.
raisinsss
It’s not really about lying on medicals. More about attempting to control the narrative in blaming a condition that likely doesn’t exist, insisting that EVERYTHING IS GREAT AND GOING 100% ACCORDING TO PLAN!!!!
But on the topic of medicals, it is the same shoulder he tore/dislocated back in 2017. So I’d be extra cautious.
Treehouse22
Padres should take a shot at signing Conforto for 1 year/$6 mil. I’d love it if my Bucs would sign him for that, but they don’t give out such enormous contracts.
deweybelongsinthehall
Can’t see Conforto taking a one year low value deal to play in a pitcher’s park. Expect him to sign where he thinks it will improve his numbers if he takes a one year deal.
bronyaur
Agreed. But historically, what are the odds for players who have similarly “bet on themselves?” My guess is that taking the highest multi year offer has more than 50% of the time been a better choice in the long run than taking a one-year “prove yourself” deal. Players and those closest to them are the last to see their own decline.
SportsFan0000
Boros always has some “mystery secret bidders” ready to help a team “bid against itself” for many of his clients. They “mystery teams” never win the bidding and are never revealed. The are ghosts lol!
chiefnocahoma1
Not to mention his alter ego “Jon Heyman” doing his bidding.
SportsFan0000
LMFAO!
Samuel
Wow!
The Padres under Preller are open to trading!!!!
After the end of the 2022 season the Padres and Mariners can trade their 40 man rosters to each other . Boy, will that be juicy!!!!!!!
Libpwnr
Nick Martinez? LOL, uh, no.
thecoffinnail
Martinez is a solid option for a #5 starter. He will generally keep his team in the game and doesn’t have a ton of mileage on his arm. I doubt he would ever block a pitcher with Gore’s pedigree though.
OldSaltUSNR
@htrab77
How many games in Japan did you see last year? What do you know about him, from his recent playing experience?
Yeah, that’s what I thought.
L O L!
Sideline Redwine
One great year in Japan (twenty-three starts at that) mitigates his MLB past? Ok.
Pads Fans
In 4 seasons in NPB, Martinez had a 3.02 ERA which ranked him 34th in the league over that period and his 7.1 K/9 was below the league average. He ranked 10th in ERA last season in 21 starts.
He is now 32 years old. If he can match the 4.77 ERA he put up in the majors when he was in his prime the Padres should count themselves lucky. Only a “Rockstar” GM would sign him to a multi-year deal.
SDHotDawg
@USNR …. No facts, no counter-argument, just trolling and insults. As usual for you, right?
JoeBrady
Oddly enough, I caught two of his ST games on TV. He’s looked okay/good. Certainly good enough to be a #5 (Small sample alert).
trog
The Rangers match up well with the Pads here. They could use an established SP and also have affordable 2B and LF depth to deal from– Nick Solak and Willie Calhoun for starters. They could also look to sell high on Adolis Garcia.
seamaholic 2
Padres have zero need for a 2B.
mils100
After last season when they ran out of pitching, be pretty concerned about trading depth. You will need 8-9 starters anyways. Dont need Jake Arrieta 2.0
FSF
Stanton for Musgrove and the Yanks will take Myers off the Padres’ hands.
OldSaltUSNR
Umm.. not even if the Yanks were taking Hosmer, and paying his full salary, would the Pads take that deal. How does subtracting a left fielder help the Padres, when they are looking for additional OF/CF help? How does taking on Stanton’s $200M remaining contract, keep the Padres under the luxury tax (2022 would be the second year in a row, and they’d lose prospects because of it)? Why would the Padres give up a TOR-potential, starting pitcher just to take on the Yankees salary bloat? The Pads have enough of that, without the Yankees “helping” sink their budget for the next seven years, until Stanton is playing ball out of a nursing home.
Of course, you were just joking. At least attempt a REASONABLE joke.
YourDreamGM
So they get Stanton for their IL and DH spots and now not only need a LF but a RF as well?
outinleftfield
Good one!! As long as we are making stupid Padres and Yankees trade rumors, how about Alfaro for Florial straight up.
outinleftfield
OOOOO, OOOOO, OOOOO I have an even better one. Alfaro for Austin Wells straight up.
SportsFan0000
Another “brilliant Yankees fan trade” where the receiving team takes the Yankees future DFA guys or bad contracts for All Star caliber players (present or future)?!
Not going to happen.
RedFraggle
Anthony Santander
jeffmaz
Best to put Abrams in the minors, getting reps in right field. When he’s ready, bring him up.
seamaholic 2
He’s one of the fastest guys in baseball. If he plays OF it will be in center.
jeffmaz
Him or Grisham, it doesn’t matter. The final piece of the puzzle is Hosmer. He’s due for the every other season that he plays well.
48-team MLB
2025 National League Champions. Swept by Red Sox in World Series.
Source: Great Scott
SportsFan0000
More like the Blue Jays
48-team MLB
I have already predicted Blue Jays/Giants in the near future.
xfloydsterx
Mariners need starting pitchers. And have depth in the outfield. And they obviously love trading together. Just saying.
dannycore
I feel like if Lewis was healthy we already would have a trade. We don’t actually “need” a sp with both Brash and Kirby competing for that 5 spot. If they don’t pan out for this season we could go get one at the deadline.
redhaze1
I would like to see the Reds trade for Weathers. He could spot start or help improve the pen.
outinleftfield
Don’t see the Padres wanting the Reds LF, do you?
jbigz12
Maybe Naquin or Fraley.
They won’t bring back Weathers but they may be interested in either one of those.
Rsox
The Catching depth they can absolutely deal from. At some point Caratini, Nola, and Alfaro all being on the roster at the same time becomes redundant. Plus Campusano in the minors waiting for a chance he might never get.
The Pitching “depth” on the other hand…they should not touch with a 10 foot pole, or have they alredy forgotten Jake Arrieta and Vince Velasquez had to make meaningful September starts last season?
jk
there weren’t any meaningful starts for the padres in September
CNichols
They started September in the second wild card spot. I think most people would consider games in the last month of the season when you’re in possession of a playoff spot meaningful…
GarryHarris
Didn’t the Padres learn anything from last season? Keep every one of the pitchers and look for more.
Most Padres hitter are having a poor spring except for two. Jorge Alfaro is not much of a catcher but he’s having the best spring of all MLB players. Trade him while you can or use him at DH. There’s no loss if the Padres split time with all three catchers Austin Nola, Victor Caratini and Luis Campusano.
The other player having a great spring is CF Jose Azocar. Does anyone care? IMO, he’s the Padres best OF prospect and he appears to be ready. What’s wrong with Azocar and Matt Beaty splitting time in the OF while Jurickson Profar spends time as the super sub? I think the Padres’ camp is overreacting. Nomar Mazara and Trayce Thompson are not a MLB players. Stay away from Michael Conforto (Fernando Tatis’ possible relocation) and Brett Gardner (Azocar earned a chance).
DonOsbourne
But how do you live up to the billing of “Rock Star GM” if you don’t make splashy trades?
SportsFan0000
Campusano should be the Padres starting catcher..
Padres Front Office prefers marginal veterans starting @ catcher and in the OF.
Padres will never win a Championship by trading away all their young, future stars
for has been players on bad contracts with declining skills.
The Dodgers and the Giants are much smarter, better run organizations. They promote and play their top young prospects instead of just giving them away in trades for declining over priced veteran players.
BarrelMan
Twins may be a good partner team.
The Einheri
Definitely. I would think the Twins could use either or both a catcher and a pitcher, and they have a decent amount corner outfielders.
Both teams could benefit from either a swap of from okay to really good players. Twins have room to eat some bad contract, too, if that helps.
outinleftfield
Sure the Padres would love to have Kiriloff in LF. Don’t think the Twins would be willing to give him up.
jbigz12
I’m thinking the Twins might be open to dealing Kepler or Larnach though.
GarryHarris
A catching tandem of Gary Sanchez and Jorge Alfaro would not only pair the worst two catchers in MLB, it would make the list of the worst defensive pairing of all time.
positively_broad_st
SD could take a flier on Brian Goodwin on a minors deal, even if it turns out to be just for depth…
GaryWarriorsRedSox
If the Padres were smart they don’t dare trade starting pitching.
Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can
Clevinger is coming back soonish and they have Gore on the way. Could try to get creative by trading Darvish and Caratini in a package to offload some salary while acquiring a decent outfielder all in one move.
SanDiegoTom
No
You Can Put It In The Books
Dom Smith for Gore
Javia135
Dom Smith? The Padres are done stockpiling 1B, but thx.
Modified_6
Dom Smith put up two great seasons that combined for less than 400 ABs.
Last year he had almost 500 ABs and his OPS+ looked like it did his first two seasons in the majors (below average) combined with poor defense and speed.
No way you give up Gore for that.
deweybelongsinthehall
Add in 2019 was the juiced ball season where mostly everyone hit.
BartoloHRball
Dom was hurt last year, which only came out after the season. He also was a highly touted prospect who mashed in the minors and demonstrated an above avg glove at 1B. That said, teams will want to see him hit again before giving up anyone of substance, which understandable. Gore has gotten roughed up, but was one of the top prospects in base all. As a Mets fan I’d do that trade, but I totally get why the Pads wouldn’t….right now.
CNichols
Maybe I’m reading way too much into this, but they had Nola catch Darvish during his last spring start and the commentary was that they were trying to trend away from Caratini as his personal catcher.
That plus them acquiring Alfaro kind of seems to me like Caratini is the one they want to move on from, but he’s pretty mediocre so I don’t know how much they really get out of that other than clearing a logjam.
ukpadre
Perhaps they clear his salary ($2 mil) and use that to sign a free agent outfielder to a 1 or 2 year deal and stay under the tax? Won’t be anyone great, but could perhaps get someone passable (more passable than Profar anyway).
Rsox
Teams seem to not like the whole “personal Catcher” thing these days. It used to be far more common. Honestly swapping in Caratini over Nola doesn’t hurt the Padres in the least. Javy Lopez used to be 30+ Home Run hitter for the Braves but when Greg Maddux was on the mound you knew Javy was not going to be behind the plate. Same with Gerrit Cole in New York, he pitched better with Higashioka than Sanchez. Nathan Eovaldi was almost throwing exclusively to Kevin Plawecki in the second half of last season. Let the Pitcher throw to who is comfortable with
dodgersvictoryagain
Simply not as good as the Dodgers !!! Point blank , period
lucas0622
I don’t think anyone said that they were
hyraxwithaflamethrower
You must be a little insecure to have to point that out when nobody said anything of the sort. You want validation? Fine, the team you root for, through absolutely none of your doing whatsoever, happens to be better than a team you don’t root for. How brilliant you are! Feel better?
YourDreamGM
Do the Padres feel Adam Frazier can’t play LF or that he isn’t going to hit this year or both? Seattle liked his bat at least.
Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can
Seattle liked Frazier’s 2B defense and the OBP potential.
sdbaseballguy
He was traded
sciosciamediapro
How about moving Gore to Anaheim for Marsh and some A-ball lottery tickets. Could be a rare win-win for both clubs.
Javia135
Gore came out this spring with a compact delivery, plus control, a 95-99 mph explosive LH fastball and throwing all of his pitches for strikes. He is currently breaking out. He will be expensive.
I doubt the Padres trade him for anyone right now. I also think the Angels would ask for more than Gore for Marsh, and that certainly won’t happen.
You Can Put It In The Books
Gore has been underwhelming for 2 minor league seasons. He needs to prove he’s more than a bust at this point. I’m not saying the Padres will give him away, but if they become desperate to improve the outfield who do you think teams are going to ask for?
Javia135
Teams have been asking for Mackenzie Gore for years now. The Padres have always said no. Teams might have been able to get him at an undervalued price last year but not this year. You don’t get a guy who was the best pitching prospect in baseball for cheap when he is currently undergoing a breakout.
If teams want a cheaper starter Paddack and Weathers might be available. Gore is not.
You Can Put It In The Books
Again, you can’t “undergo a breakout” in Spring Training. Padres have to give to get.
Javia135
Again, Paddack and Weathers may be available. Putting Gore on the market or not is entirely the Padre’s choice.
You see to be pushing very, very hard for Gore while at the same time telling us how bad he is. You want him. You want him CHEAP. That isn’t going to happen. He looks like he may be breaking out. The Padres are not going to trade him cheap if he looks like he is ready to fulfill his promise.
You Can Put It In The Books
I don’t want him personally, and I never suggested for cheap. It was merely a commentary on your joke that spring training matters… you were joking, right?
stymeedone
@putitinthebooks
Other teams would ask for some one NOT trying to prove he isn’t a bust.
Brew88
@the books. In this case, yes, ST matters. For 2 years Gore has been struggling badly with mechanics, couldn’t find strike zone, lost 3-4 mph on fast ball. He was lost.
Over winter he made some major alterations (will spare you with details) and has been lights out since. Impressive ST has only confirmed this. The fact that his command is so good, combined with 3 wipe out pitches, has many claiming he’s better than his pre-funk status as a top 5 prospect. Given his turnaround, he won’t be traded.
Jimbob 57
Angels would have to get more than Gore they would also ask for Hassel or Campusano
Javia135
The Padres currently wouldn’t trade Gore alone for Marsh. Therefore: this trade is NOT going to happen.
Gooberberry
Bro don’t be mad
Deleted Userr
*click*
Jimbob 57
The Cubs make the most sense, they can afford Hosmer’s contract and have 4 outfielders to choose from Happ, Ortega, Frazier & Heyward . Would not expect Padres to want anything to do with Heyward ,but I believe Happ might be a good fit ,2yrs control decent in LF only around 7 mil ayr hit 25 dingers last yr
Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can
Why would the Cubs do that? They’ve been trying to get better this offseason, not worse.
Jimbob 57
They would only take on Hosmer’s contract if Pads are willing to trade Campusano or Hassel or Weathers maybe Paddock with him
Pads Fans
Cubs have a guy penciled in as their everyday starter at 1B that was a waiver wire pickup and that has less than a half a season in the majors and is 30 years old. There is a reason Schwindel was on waivers after being in the minors for 8 years. I doubt Hoyer wants to go into 2022 with that as his only option at 1B.
Not saying Hosmer is the answer for the Cubs either. Hosmer has been a slightly above league average hitter with the Padres who has hit better at home and against RHP.
Padres best chance to move Hosmer is to include large stacks of cash along with him. Since they do have 4 catchers on the 40 man roster, include any of them not named Campusano in the trade. They are all affordable.
Seen this posted several times by writers in their chats, so will repeat it – Hosmer, Nola, and $30 million for a couple of relief prospects. That lowers the Padres CBT payroll by $11 million in 2022.
Nola is pre-arbitration eligible so he is cheap for the other team and would step in as a starter or capable backup.
Padres could then start Campusano, who has nothing left to prove in the minors, with Caratini and Alfaro as the backups.
Not sure who a team is that needs both a 1B and a catcher.
You Can Put It In The Books
NOBODY is taking Hosmer’s contract. The Padres would have to attach more than they’re willing in order to move him. That’s why he’s still on the team (and will be for the foreseeable future).
Brick House Coffee Tables Inc
I feel like the Padres, Cubs, and Yankees could pull off a three way deal.
Cubs put in Contreras, Happ, and the willingness to take Hosmer with half the remaining salary.
Padres put in Campusano, Gore, and Hosmer
Yankees put in Peraza and Florial
The Padres end up with Happ to play left for a year before being nontendered, Florial for outfield depth, and they get enough below the CBT to still be able to make moves in the summer.
The Cubs get a 2023 SS in Peraza and a younger catcher in Campusano. And they can actually afford to find a place for Hosmer in their lineup for 110 games (Hosmer, Schwindel, and Frazier each getting 2/3 of the 1B/DH reps).
The Yankees get the rental catcher they desperately need, and a controllable piece in Gore.
AJ the Rastaman
there’s negative zero chance in hell the Padres would do this deal. a 7 year old wouldn’t make this trade for the padres. gore & campusano… for happ?? LMFAO
Jimbob 57
But if I read this right you also get rid of Hosmer
SportsFan0000
Florial has gone from over hyped #1 prospect future Hall of Fame Yankees prospect to what #30 Yankees prospect?!
He can’t hit even in the minors.
Why would the Padres want him?!
They already have OFs who can’t hit.
HBan22
Why not play Austin Nola in LF? He can play every position besides SS and CF. I thought part of the reason they valued him so highly was because of his versatility. They could keep Campusano in the minors to begin the year and carry Nola, Alfaro and Caratini.
towinagain
Nope, as a Padres fan, scour the system. Give Abrams a shot, get creative. Melvin worked with young talent on the A’s and knows how to get the most out what’s available. At some point the Pads have to hit on talent in the system.
HalosHeavenJJ
An Angels/Padres match seemed so obvious early in the off season.
Angels have two young, talented outfielder. Padres have pitching and catching. Both have spending limits.
Oh well.
Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can
Mariners actually make perfect trade partners. They’re looking for a #2 starter to put right after Robbie Ray in their rotation, and they have a bunch of outfielders vying for playing time, especially young outfielders who are cheap and have lots of potential.
outinleftfield
Darvish, Caratini, and $10 million for JRod? J/K Had to.
Pads Fans
That was really funny. I can hear Mariners fans blood pressure spiking just thinking about that one.
Yankee Clipper
Preller may as well be screaming at the Yankees given the Yanks second (and only other) catcher and a needed SP are injured.
*Hellllloooooooo Brian Cashman*
SportsFan0000
Yankees farm system has been over rated a lowered in value in Farm System ratings. Many of their farm hands have become busts. Why would Padres trade for Yankees farm hands that are not as good as Padres farm hands?!
Drew Waters Bat
I thought clevinger was still on the shelf a few months.
outinleftfield
He pitched in MLB camp game yesterday after pitching in a split squad game against mostly minor leaguers 5 days before that.
Drew Waters Bat
Hell yeah. That’s great to hear. Sounds like he wouldn’t be far away. Another 2-4 starts atleast I would guess that he misses before they activate. From what your saying major league batters not yet. How many pitches did he throw? He get threw the order a second time either game?
CNichols
He threw like 40 pitches in the mlb game but he was supposed to go 3 innings and didn’t make it there because his pitch count was too high and he was struggling. In the minor league game he flew through 3 innings no problem.
I think the word from the Padres beat reporters has actually been that they’re going to start him the first week of the season anyways, but he’s going to be on a usage limitation. So he might only go like ~3ish innings his first couple turns in the rotation before he’s fully built up. They might piggy back him with Ryan Weathers.
Drew Waters Bat
Thanks for the info.
bigdaddyhacks
Jerry Dipoto *heavy breathing*
weaselpuppy
How in the H E Double Hockey Sticks is their payroll $224m and they have a patchwork of “Hey, that guy is pretty decent” all over the field but no real top end talent less Tatis?
That’s is a colossal.mess of a roster, that looks like it could be a 4th place club in its own division…Ugh.
AJ the Rastaman
4th place? LMFAO. there’s zero chance in hell the padres finish behind the rockheads.
sdbaseballguy
Machado?
SportsFan0000
AJ Preller is very good at drafting players, but terrible at assembling a complete roster that competes for championships.
AJ should be Director of Drafting players.
The Padres should have someone more savvy doing the trading and signing free agents.
The Padres have had too many bad trade deals and bad free agent signings.
AJ Preller builds a farm that rivals Tampa’s and then torches it for overpriced, declining veterans in a few short years!?
AJ Preller won’t start some of his top rookies like Catcher Campusano and
SS CJ Abrams who both look like they are better major league options than the trade alternatives available.?! The shortstop is usually the best athlete on any baseball team. Abrams could easily handle LF, RF or CF on the Padres.
Campusano is a plus hitting and defending, young catcher in MLB which has a shortage of quality young multidimensional catchers. Why are the Padres parking their best catching asset in the minors and/or on the trading block?!
These kinds of decisions are where the Dodgers and Giants Front Offices consistently kick the Padres butts year after year.
Steinbrenner2728
Just to mirror similar lazy Padres fans’ troll attempts on Giants articles:
“LOL Padres. They got lucky going over .500 last season! I predict the Padres to go 5-10 below .500 this year, because, like I said… They got lucky and they can’t chase lightning in a bottle! LOL”
SportsFan0000
No. The Padres got very unlucky last year with a roster decimated by injuries especially their pitching staff.
The Giants got very lucky last year with all of their signings and trades panning out and producing. Giants Front office did a great job last year,
No one in MLB would have predicted that the Giants would win 107 games
(not even the most optimistic Giants fans would have predicted that outcome).
bucketbrew35
Outsider perspective here. The Giants kind of reminded me of my beloved 93 Phillies. Who were great but admittedly fluky. While the Padres reminded me of one of the many Mets teams that collapsed because they had immature head cases as their ‘veteran leaders.’
Gwynning
@Steinny- that TGSD19 guy is a Dodger fan that trolls SF boards. No real Padre fan makes fun of other teams… especially NLW teams… we’re all too aware of our own futility. He ONLY trolls SF boards and props up the Dodgers. He couldn’t hide his homerism even in a troll account… and has never popped a positive take into any Padre discussion. “All is not at it appears to be on the Interwebs…”
gr8testsoxfan
Hosmer, Paddack for Jason Heyward
Deleted Userr
Nope
SportsFan0000
Jason Hayward’s contract and performance is worse than Hosmer’s.
The Padres would not take Heyward straight up for Hosmer.
CleaverGreene
If Heyward plays a good CF he might just earn some of that contract.
TradeAcuna
Poor Padres tried to buy a ring but failed. Keep trying though please – no one wants the Dodgers to win again.
SportsFan0000
AJ Preller should be fired if he trades any of these top 5 Padres prospects.
CJ Abrams, SS (MLB No. 9)
Robert Hassell, OF (MLB No. 37)
Luis Campusano, C (MLB No. 44)
MacKenzie Gore, LHP (MLB No. 86)
James Wood, OF.
All of these players are future impact major leaguers.
Watch Preller trade C Luis Campusano for some scrub, washed up
35 year old, declining, high salaried, marginal LF.
Campusano becomes an All star in a few years.
They guy Preller gets back is DFAed by next year or the year after.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
I doubt all of them are future impact major leaguers. The top five of any team’s prospects right now probably aren’t all going to be difference-makers. I also disagree on his being fired should he trade any of them. For the right deal, even Acuna would be available. Teams say a player is off-limits all the time; it’s total BS. It’s just another term for very, very expensive.
SportsFan0000
CJ Abrams should be starting on this Padres team either in LF or infield or DH.
(washed up Rangers prospect Profar is not good enough to start on a playoffs contending team).
The Padres “brain trust” will find a way to completely mess this easy decision up.
Their Front Office acts like it has a voodoo curse on it.
They are their own worst enemies.
stymeedone
Yes, lets rush our top prospect. AA and AAA is for wimps. Lets start his clock and kill his confidence by moving him 1.5 steps up the competition level, and sure, we can have him learn a new position at the same time. Its only OF! Anyone can cover OF in a pitchers park. If we put him in CF with Myers on one side, I’m sure he won’t have to cover much ground. He’s fast. He’ll outrun his mistakes. Sounds like a plan to me–A Bad Plan!
SportsFan0000
Abrams is is double A ball and performing like an All Star. Abrams also lit up the Arizona Fall league. Abrams is ready to start in the major leagues. Many star players go from AA to the majors. They could put Abrams @ SS (his natural position and rotate Cronenworth or Ha-Seong Kimand in the OF and also giving Abrams reps in the OF to get acclimated.
SDHotDawg
Abrams hasn’t played a single game in the outfield, and you want to put him in a ML outfield? And, after less than half a season in AA?
This is real MLB, not a video game.
SportsFan0000
It is a player by player basis to promote to the big leagues.
Tatis Jr is injured. I said Abrams could play SS and they could do a rotation with other players and get some time in the OF, some time @ DH etc.
Baseball is baseball, Players who make the major leagues have been playing most of their lives from a very young age.
Talent should determine promotions to the big leagues not stopping at every farm team in their team’s system for a year or two.
The game speeds up as you move up the ladder.
Dave Winfield was promoted to the Padres major league team shortly after he was drafted. Tony Gwynn was like 1 year in the minors.
Many other players were moved through their team’s
minor league systems very fast.
Spencer Torkelson 2020 draft will be starting in the major in 2022.
Abrams is ready according to many major league scouts.
Abrams has 3 years in minors and has excelled in the Arizona Fall league that features MLB’s best minor league players and future stars.
Start him in the INF @ SS.
And, also hit him a lot of fly balls in practice and give him reps in the OF.
It is not brain surgery when you are a talented young ballplayer.
SDHotDawg
Tony Gwynn was a college player. So was Winfield. Gwynn spent two years in the minors.
I wouldn’t be so quick to compare Abrams to two Hall of Famers.
damascusj
Jorge Alfaro is definitely not 4th on the depth chart, he’s been mashing so far in ST and I wouldn’t be surprised if he plays A LOT
stymeedone
Nice to know he can hit minor league pitchers and ML pitchers who are working on stuff.
Ha-Seong Kim
@stymee
You’re right Julio Urias and Garret Crochet both suck and the HRs off them should be counted as fly outs
iverbure
Why do people take anything from spring training stats? A lot of mlb pitchers going into spring starters exclusively working on one pitch.
Pads Fans
Watched a game yesterday where the starter threw 23 fastballs in a row in the 2nd inning. He got lit up and still came back in the 3rd.
Pretty sure he won’t do that in the regular season and if he gets lit up like that he won’t come back to pitch the 3rd..
SDHotDawg
@Pads Fans ….
That’s exactly what you’ll see in Spring Training. Anybody that gets excited about a player having a great ST, or even a bad one, doesn’t understand ST.
JoeBrady
He’s not really mashing. Hitting the occasional HR has never been the problem. It’s always been the K/W which has kept him down, and during ST, he has a 6/0.
getrealgone2
Preller is not a great GM
outinleftfield
Is there any evidence that Preller is even a good GM?
SDHotDawg
No, but there’s plenty of evidence to the contrary.
SportsFan0000
Good Director of Farm System and Draft.
Not so good at developing drafted talent, trades, free agent signings.
SDHotDawg
Really? He just fired his own hand-picked Farm Director this offseason.
Ha-Seong Kim
Paddack for Kyle Lewis make it happen
justinkm19
Damn. They have Profar, Mazara, and Alfaro? How many former Rangers top prospects that failed can they acquire. Darvish is a success, but another former Ranger as well.
justinkm19
Nick Martinez too
steelerbravenation
Paddack for Santandar get it done already
Ha-Seong Kim
The padres could probably get Mancini and santander for paddack.
BirdBelter
Not happening
Stormintazz
To bad David Stearns does not pay attention to this. Trading from abundance you say?
monty_carter
for the admin – not a big deal but the b-ref link is for the wrong wil meyers
JoeBrady
How are the lower-tier teams not all over this?
I understand Mancini is a fan favorite, but the O’s absolutely should offer one year of Mancini for 5 years of Weathers. Same with Peralta from the D-backs.
Weathers is worth more, but if you offer to pick up half the salary, and throw in a lesser prospect, at some point, Preller jumps in.
metsie1
The catching “depth” assertion is suspect. My guess is Nola is the Padres starter as they work Campusano into the full time role. Alfaro is a poor defensive catcher whom the Marlins willingly dumped. He also is slow as molasses. Very little value. Caratini? Please. This will be a dump more than a “trade” from depth.
JoeBrady
You see articles like this frequently, confusing quantity for quality. Even Nola is not really worth much. He was cut by Miami, had about 100 good games with Seattle, and Preller jumped. The RS need a catcher next year, and Nola would be far from the top of my list.
Brew88
Articles like this, “Pads willing to entertain offers”, are to reporting as are signs in front Starbucks “willing to sell coffee”
sports teams want to compete in sports and have been known to make trades.
mister guy
strange that they are pencilling in will myers the college player instead of wil myers who is on their roster… maybe it is a bad link….
SDHotDawg
“ROTATION DEPTH?” Since when?
outinleftfield
Padres can probably afford to trade a catcher, but you would think that Preller would learn after having to resort to Arrieta and Velasquez in September because of all the injuries to his staff.
docbot
Naquin for Paddack
Pads Fans
What “rotation depth”?
2 out of 5 will not be ready opening day. Clevinger because he is coming off his 2nd Tommy John and Snell because, well, he is made of glass.
Darvish was injured and mediocre in 2021 and he is the opening day starter.
Paddack is coming back from a season ending elbow injury.
Martinez hasn’t pitch in the majors since 2017 and he was terrible then. He is 34 which means he is already in decline.
Lamet is a reliever now and has not been able to stay healthy for a full season even one time in his career.
Weather was exposed in the 2nd half last season and nothing has changed in his stuff or approach this spring.
Gore may or may not make the squad out of camp. I believe he is going to be great eventually, but is now that eventually?
The only one that the Padres should be counting on is Musgrove. Where exactly is the so-called surplus?
SDHotDawg
@Pads Fans …
You nailed it. And, Paddack hasn’t been good since the first half of his rookie year. He’s been getting lit up like a Christmas Tree since then, because he’s unable or unwilling to adjust to big league hitters. Or, he’s just not as good as my fellow Padres fans thought he was.
outinleftfield
Martinez is going into his age 32 season unless you know something we don’t.
Pads Fans
You are right. He is 32. And Darvish is 35. Wish I could blame it on something other than a brain fart.
JoeBrady
I see that SD is trading FOR pitching. Not sure this article aged well. As many of us said, SD is not really deep in pitching.