The White Sox may have players off to “bad starts”, but their problem is that theit position players can’t play baseball. With the exception of Adam Engel all their defenders are shades of poor to mediocre. Additionally, they’re terrible baserunners, and do next to no situational hitting as well.
If they somehow power hit themselves to a playoff spot in a weak division, they ‘ll be eliminated fairly quickly. The kind of baseball they play doesn’t work in October.
It will get really interesting for the Sox next year when they don’t play 55+% of their schedule against their division, the Cubs and the Orioles. They are, at best, a fourth place, non playoff team if they were in the east.
I think you hit in on the head when you said the way they don’t play doesn’t work in October. It– but now it has to for four straight series which is hard to overcome. The Astros, last year, completely exposed all the defensive and base running deficiencies that matter in single, individual games and series.
They have to go for it now because they really do have an outstanding rotation, but Giolito, Kopech, etc will be looking for big paydays in the future.
They’ve been rebuilding for 4-1/2 years. What was the point?
I understood Schoop and Grossman joining Miggy as a bridge for the position players, and the signing of Eduardo Rodriguez as a veteran arm for the pitching staff.
But where are all the rookies? Are more coming? They look like a hodgepodge of veteran players with holes in their games. Baez as their big signing made no sense – a SS should be consistent in the field, and a leader should have consistent personality. Baez has never displayed that and has never anchored a team in any way.
Rather than carry on it seems the Tigers could have picked up players like they have now 4-1/2 years ago in FA and trades. I had hopes for them, but they seem to have little faith in most of their young players. This is not a good sign.
Not a Tigers fan, but I think Greene debuting will be big for them. To me, he’s the spark plug they need from a talented young rookie to set the tone. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Torkelson back up and contributing shortly after. I get being disappointed in not seeing Mize/Manning, etc. be stars, but they just need IP. Take heart in Tarik. Guy is a stud and he’s breaking out, but he’s also a Boras client, so record the games and don’t buy his Tigers jersey (or at least rip off the tags).
If you’re a Braves fan then you saw them keep Freeman and add Markakis as they went through their rebuild. But when the youngsters started getting called up did they play them or did they bring in a bunch of vets?
Fine, one of their prized pitchers is working out so far. But what if one of the other 2 doesn’t? And if they’re at “the extreme earliest possible year of their window” then why aren’t they playing the youngsters? Isn’t that what rebuilds are all about?
Last year they played a lot of their youngsters. Apparently they aren’t happy because they added so-so veterans at C, SS, corner OF, and 2 starting pitchers this off-season.
If they have a next wave of youngsters coming up, fine. Then again, if they do why not play the other youngsters now? Barnhart, Baez, Meadows, Rodriguez, Pineda, and Chafin are all decent MLB players. But they aren’t going to lead any team to the playoffs.
I’m not saying their approach is great, but its still early yet. Most of their best young talent is, at most experienced, dudes who didn’t play a full season until 2021 (might as well count 2021 as rookie years for Mize and Skubal for all I care), and you’ve still got Greene and others in the Minors. I’m no Tigers fan, but I see no one clearly blocked save maybe a SP or two.
Don’t let KC’s near-last place standings in offense and wins prevent you from bashing other teams, Samuel, because…that’s not silly or anything, lol.
12-20? Right-e-o, buddy. They’re doing a bang-up job. The ChiSox, as bad as you say they are, are ahead of KC, while the Tigers are nippin’ at their heels.
I disagree with the pitcher wins catergory.
I can’t see a closer or relief-set up man who blows a save get credited with a win in the standings. It’s ridiculous
If a starter leaves a game with a quality start or his team is leading after 5 innings as long as the team wins the game the starter should be credited with the win I know pitcher record doesn’t tell the true story of the pitching performance but neither does a blown save and a win for a relief pitcher in the same gem either
The Cards are not going to offer Arenado another extension no matter how well he plays. If he opts out, Gorman goes to third and the money gets re-allocated elsewhere. The Matt Carpenter extension and subsequent cratering is still fresh in their minds.
I have to assume that Timothy’s trade proposal was a joke for Soto.
If it isn’t then it is probably the worst trade proposal I have ever seen by any fan from any fan base. Let’s see we want your generational talent that is by the way 23 and maybe the best hitter in baseball. In exchange we won’t even give one of your top 5 prospects In our system. Honestly I’m not really sure what it would take to land a talent like that but it better start with your top 5 prospects and maybe go from there depending on how Washington looks at your top 5 prospects.
The White Sox may have players off to “bad starts”, but their problem is that theit position players can’t play baseball. With the exception of Adam Engel all their defenders are shades of poor to mediocre. Additionally, they’re terrible baserunners, and do next to no situational hitting as well.
If they somehow power hit themselves to a playoff spot in a weak division, they ‘ll be eliminated fairly quickly. The kind of baseball they play doesn’t work in October.
It will get really interesting for the Sox next year when they don’t play 55+% of their schedule against their division, the Cubs and the Orioles. They are, at best, a fourth place, non playoff team if they were in the east.
I think you hit in on the head when you said the way they don’t play doesn’t work in October. It– but now it has to for four straight series which is hard to overcome. The Astros, last year, completely exposed all the defensive and base running deficiencies that matter in single, individual games and series.
They have to go for it now because they really do have an outstanding rotation, but Giolito, Kopech, etc will be looking for big paydays in the future.
Concerning the Tigers……
They’ve been rebuilding for 4-1/2 years. What was the point?
I understood Schoop and Grossman joining Miggy as a bridge for the position players, and the signing of Eduardo Rodriguez as a veteran arm for the pitching staff.
But where are all the rookies? Are more coming? They look like a hodgepodge of veteran players with holes in their games. Baez as their big signing made no sense – a SS should be consistent in the field, and a leader should have consistent personality. Baez has never displayed that and has never anchored a team in any way.
Rather than carry on it seems the Tigers could have picked up players like they have now 4-1/2 years ago in FA and trades. I had hopes for them, but they seem to have little faith in most of their young players. This is not a good sign.
Not a Tigers fan, but I think Greene debuting will be big for them. To me, he’s the spark plug they need from a talented young rookie to set the tone. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Torkelson back up and contributing shortly after. I get being disappointed in not seeing Mize/Manning, etc. be stars, but they just need IP. Take heart in Tarik. Guy is a stud and he’s breaking out, but he’s also a Boras client, so record the games and don’t buy his Tigers jersey (or at least rip off the tags).
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If you’re a Braves fan then you saw them keep Freeman and add Markakis as they went through their rebuild. But when the youngsters started getting called up did they play them or did they bring in a bunch of vets?
Fine, one of their prized pitchers is working out so far. But what if one of the other 2 doesn’t? And if they’re at “the extreme earliest possible year of their window” then why aren’t they playing the youngsters? Isn’t that what rebuilds are all about?
Last year they played a lot of their youngsters. Apparently they aren’t happy because they added so-so veterans at C, SS, corner OF, and 2 starting pitchers this off-season.
If they have a next wave of youngsters coming up, fine. Then again, if they do why not play the other youngsters now? Barnhart, Baez, Meadows, Rodriguez, Pineda, and Chafin are all decent MLB players. But they aren’t going to lead any team to the playoffs.
I’m not saying their approach is great, but its still early yet. Most of their best young talent is, at most experienced, dudes who didn’t play a full season until 2021 (might as well count 2021 as rookie years for Mize and Skubal for all I care), and you’ve still got Greene and others in the Minors. I’m no Tigers fan, but I see no one clearly blocked save maybe a SP or two.
Not partial to the Tigers rebuild compared to others, but this is the extreme earliest possible year of their window. it’s not their time yet.
Don’t let KC’s near-last place standings in offense and wins prevent you from bashing other teams, Samuel, because…that’s not silly or anything, lol.
12-20? Right-e-o, buddy. They’re doing a bang-up job. The ChiSox, as bad as you say they are, are ahead of KC, while the Tigers are nippin’ at their heels.
I muted Samuel a long time ago, and seeing your comment reinforces that I made the correct decision.
I think Bloom is safe for one more year but man that Story contract may come back to haunt him.
I disagree with the pitcher wins catergory.
I can’t see a closer or relief-set up man who blows a save get credited with a win in the standings. It’s ridiculous
If a starter leaves a game with a quality start or his team is leading after 5 innings as long as the team wins the game the starter should be credited with the win I know pitcher record doesn’t tell the true story of the pitching performance but neither does a blown save and a win for a relief pitcher in the same gem either
The Cards are not going to offer Arenado another extension no matter how well he plays. If he opts out, Gorman goes to third and the money gets re-allocated elsewhere. The Matt Carpenter extension and subsequent cratering is still fresh in their minds.
I have to assume that Timothy’s trade proposal was a joke for Soto.
If it isn’t then it is probably the worst trade proposal I have ever seen by any fan from any fan base. Let’s see we want your generational talent that is by the way 23 and maybe the best hitter in baseball. In exchange we won’t even give one of your top 5 prospects In our system. Honestly I’m not really sure what it would take to land a talent like that but it better start with your top 5 prospects and maybe go from there depending on how Washington looks at your top 5 prospects.