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Why did the Cardinals placed on restricted list comments get closed so fast? I know there is a lot of crazy anti-Cardinal hate here or did it go straight to politics?
You take it easy with all these simple questions.
Covid
Someone was wishing that certain players couldn’t have children because he disagrees with their beliefs about vaccines.
You know…
Some threads get left open (I’m pretty sure the Benentendi thread stayed open yesterday) and others don’t. Makes little sense. Let people vent. I don’t care if someone is anti-vax or not. I do care when discussion is shut down.
Hmmm, so I scrolled back to the Benintendi thread and they didn’t shut it down, but they certainly did remove a number of fan posts. That could be even worse. I wonder if it’s not a site-wide decision, but may depend on the MLBTR writer shift. In other words, who is working.
I understand they’re trying, but their approach here is a mistake.
No way Beltran way 1st ballot. You can argue martyrdom because he was no longer a player when he was named, but that he was, IMO, is damning. No way 75% of voters overlook this.
The key question is: “is he nice to the media?” apparently that is a deciding factor into HOF voting.
DarkSide830, the Baseball HOF voters have already proven that they don’t care if players used PED’s. The only thing they care about, is if the player kissed their back side. They have already elected known PED’s users in on the first ballot.
The inconsistency is what bothers many fans. Piazza, Bagwell and Ivan Rodriquez were all known users, nobody questions if they used PEDs, but enough BBWAA members voted them in while at the same time getting on their collective soap boxe to argue against other, greater players. Then, Ortiz even failed a test but they found a way to excuse that too. This, btw, is not an argument against any of the players they’ve voted in; it’s an argument against BBWAA members and their constantly shifting opinions based on if they like a player or not. Heyman is the worst at it.
Rolen will be the only one voted in.
We’ve all seen being a jerk can cost one an election.
From tonight’s chat and thousands of comments from Yankee and Red Sox fans in chatrooms…..
I know most of you grew up with those 2 teams fighting over the top FA’s each year, often getting 2-3. There were the one-sided salary dump trades. They were directly caused by those two franchises running up player salaries causing teams that thought they could contend to give a player a multi-year contact. Then when the team didn’t contend resulting in attendance / TV viewership going down, they were in danger of losing big money if they kept the player and paid his salary. So they’d agree to one-sided trades. Taking on so-so prospects for their established players. Later if some of those prospects developed they threatened FA resulting in their teams knowing they couldn’t afford the big salaries so they traded them to the Yankees and Red Sox for more so-so prospects to develop for them.
Fans in small and even mid-markets got sick of being feeder teams to the Yankees and Red Sox, and their owners knew that something had to be done or their franchises wouldn’t be worth peanuts. Slowly the field was leveled some. Revenue Sharing. Pay slots in the draft (The Yankees and Red Sox were notorious for telling top prospects agents to tell teams that wanted to draft them that they wouldn’t sign with them. When the Yankees and Red Sox drafted them later they’d give the prospects the big bonus money later in the draft.) There’s more of course, starting with the penalties for going into a pseudo salary cap (Luxury Tax).
The point is that what went on for over 25-30 years since FA came into being is gone. Many raised Yankee and Red Sox fans don’t understand that your FO’s were not brilliant. They were swimming in revenue compared to other markets and devious. Those good old days are not coming back. It’s not just the partial leveling of the revenue. It’s literally every franchise in MLB understanding how to compete with less revenue than the Yankees and Red Sox. Now those 2 FO’s must compete within a structure. So the days of your trading so-so prospects for established star players are not coming back. Nor are the days of your signing 2-3 of the top FA’s each year. Your farm systems have to develop players. Your ML coaching staffs have to make those on the 26 man roster better. In short – the bullying is not coming back. You need to understand how the game is played.
P.S. It’s not the teams I “hate”. It’s that I get annoyed at people commenting here that don’t respect or understand either the game or the opposing franchises right to compete.
Even without the 2017 Astros connection, Beltran always struck me as a slower-burn HOF candidate, meaning he wasn’t going in first ballot. There will be some blow back to 2017 with BBWAA voting members, further suppressing his vote, but he’ll eventually make it. Voters will fill the need to punish him for a few years.
I must be remembering incorrectly. I thought the crazy thing about Trouts extension was that there wasn’t a trade blocker in it?
He doesn’t need it. Trout has 10-5 status. That’s an automatic no-trade clause.
He’s got 10 and 5 status (10 years in the league, 5 with 1 team), so he gets full no trade rights on that alone.
One does have to wonder if the seat under Bloom is getting a little warm. Swept at home by the Blue Jays (including possibly the most embarrassing game in team history), a terrible overall record against their own division and a 5-15 record so far in July that has seen them outscored 148 to 76. That cannot possibly sit well with Henry, Warner, and the rest of the Red Sox ownership.
Best wishes to Steve Jeltz. Played a little ball with him back in the day, but haven’t heard the name for some time – gifted college player and a very nice guy.