6:01pm: Sean McAdam of the Boston Sports Journal writes that members of Boston’s ownership group have met with Bogaerts over the past week and expressed similar sentiments privately to Bloom’s public comments about the club viewing Bogaerts as its top priority. Those informal talks didn’t involve Bogaerts’ reps at the Boras Corporation, and McAdam writes that no specific contractual numbers were exchanged.
1:45pm: Red Sox chief baseball officer Chaim Bloom said at today’s end-of-season presser that a new contract for Bogaerts is the team’s top priority, and the process of attempting to extend him will begin immediately (link via Chris Cotillo of MassLive.com). Boston hopes to secure a new deal with Bogaerts before he can even formally exercise his opt-out provision, five days after the World Series ends.
12:45pm: Xander Bogaerts, who can opt out of the three years and $60MM remaining on his contract after the postseason concludes, said following the final game of the season that he hasn’t had any recent talks with the Red Sox about a new contract (link via Jason Mastrodonato of the Boston Herald). He’d indicated back in May that he was open to talks during the season. Bogaerts is planning to head home to Aruba in the next few days and enjoy a mental reset after a long season. “I need it more than a lot of years I’ve been here,” Bogaerts said of his upcoming time at home.
The 2022 season was a difficult one for the Red Sox, who went from missing the 2021 World Series by one game to a last-place finish in the American League East. Boston dealt with myriad injuries, as key names like Chris Sale, Trevor Story, Nathan Eovaldi, Michael Wacha and Enrique Hernandez all spent ample time on the shelf. That said, there were far more than injuries at play. The Sox were hammered by bullpen issues all season, struggled to find quality rotation work beyond the quartet of Eovaldi, Wacha, Nick Pivetta and Rich Hill, and saw several hitters (e.g. Hernandez, Story, Bobby Dalbec, Alex Verdugo and J.D. Martinez) fall shy of their previous levels of contribution.
To a small extent, Bogaerts was part of that offensive downturn. Although he was excellent on the whole, hitting .307/.377/.456 in 631 plate appearances, he hit “only” 15 home runs this season — his lightest showing in the power department since 2017 (both in terms of home run total and ISO). Bogaerts saw declines in his exit velocity, barrel rate and hard-hit rate, further supporting the dip in extra-base pop. That said, Bogaerts also picked up the pace in the season’s final couple months, and he and Rafael Devers were still the team’s two best players by a wide margin.
Bogaerts’ postgame comments yesterday contained two repeated themes: he hopes to remain with the Red Sox — the only organization he’s ever known — but is also a different player and person than he was when he signed his original contract extension. Bogaerts said at multiple points that he has grown and matured in recent seasons, adding that he’s “in a different mentality now than I was a couple years ago.”
Bogaerts is a veritable lock to opt out and test free agency. Nothing he said yesterday suggested anything to the contrary, and while the dip in power may be something of a red flag for interested teams, it’s only fair to point out that said downturn was accompanied by a major uptick in his defensive grades. Bogaerts posted negative marks in Defensive Runs Saved and Statcast’s Outs Above Average in each of the four seasons heading into 2022 but was strong across the board at shortstop in 2022 by measure of DRS (4), OAA (5) and Ultimate Zone Rating (5.4).
That could work to his favor in combating the narrative that he’ll need to move to either third base or second base — perhaps sooner than later. Some suitors may still prefer him at another position, and a willingness to play elsewhere can certainly bolster one’s market — just ask Story or Marcus Semien — but the 2022 campaign is a point in his favor if Bogaerts is intent on remaining at shortstop for the foreseeable future.
Regardless of his defensive home, Bogaerts’ bat should carry him to a longer-term, more-lucrative deal than the club-friendly extension he originally signed with the Sox a few years back. He’s been at least 29% better than average at the plate in each of the past five seasons, by measure of wRC+, posting a combined .300/.373/.507 slash with 105 long balls in that time. He’s also been quite durable, incurring just one injury (a small crack in his ankle in 2018) and playing in 91% of the Red Sox’ total games in that half-decade span.
The Red Sox’ public position on the matter has repeatedly been that the team hopes to sign Bogaerts, though the most recent extension offer from the team casts doubt on the plausibility of that outcome. Boston reportedly offered Bogaerts one additional year at a price of $30MM back in Spring Training. That’d have brought Bogaerts to four years and $90MM in total commitment, and it stands to reason that he could more than double that overall guarantee on the open market this winter as he heads into his age-30 season.
Boston has a bit less than $102MM in guaranteed contracts already on next year’s books, although Bogaerts accounts for $20MM of that sum. By 2024, they’ll be down to about $57MM (sans Bogaerts), and by 2025, Story’s contract is the last notable guarantee remaining on the books. The team is perhaps optimistically earmarking some payroll space for a Devers extension, but it’s plenty feasible that all three of Story, Bogaerts and Devers could fit onto the payroll — particularly for a big-market club with little in the way of other major guarantees for other players beyond the 2024 season.
If and when Bogaerts opts out, he’ll be eligible to receive a qualifying offer. He’ll surely receive and reject that, positioning the Red Sox to receive some compensation if he departs as a free agent. However, because the Red Sox finished the 2022 season north of the $230MM luxury tax line (by a reported margin of about $4.5MM), they’d stand to receive a pick between the fourth and fifth rounds of next summer’s draft — as opposed to the pick between Competitive Balance Round B and Round 3 that they’d have otherwise received.
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He’s more likely to be there next year than arenado is
Also my guess if he doesn’t stay.
For what it’s worth, Arenado is said to love St. Louis. While I still don’t think the opt out is out of the question, I could see them working on some kinda extension/new deal with him. Still the best defensive 3B in the league, and he can hit a little too.
He’ll go to the team that his agent gets him the best deal. Not necessarily the highest avg annual salary but longest term.
Jeff: Agreed. I’m sure Boras wants to see if he can get a bidding war going for Xander.
@cyards are you talking about x or nolan, when it comes to nolan he wants to play for a contender, and the list of contenders that need a 3b are few not to mention the teams that could upgrade at 3rd also have glaring needs other than 3b, and none of them teams funds are infinite, at some point even lad and nym have a limit. then again am also going on wishful thinking because i don’t want to nolan leave, we haven’t had a 3b like him since rolan
When Rich Hill is the answer, you don’t have much of a question. Is this the total unraveling of the Bosox and Chaim Bloom?
Only money will tell!
Tough call on bogaerts. There’s so much more money than talent right now in baseball it’s hard to let anyone walk
The Red Sox could use a top of the rotation starter, and they have the money now, but there is NO legitimate ace on the free agent market.
Bloom probably wants a younger, better defensive shortstop. I would too. I just hope he uses his payroll flexibility and spends it on an upgrade at SS and OF in addition to the starter. That said Bogaerts has been great since he broke in 2013!
With JD, Eovaldi, Bogaerts, and more age 30+ guys leaving, the Red Sox can not help get younger to be competitive longer.
Sir, pardon me, but what are you talking about?!?
No legitimate ace on the market?!?!
Is Justin Verlander not an ace? What about Jacob DeGrom? Clayton Kershaw? Other quality names like Carlos Rodon, Mike Clevinger…
The first three are much too old to build a long-term rotation around. These are win now players. Also, Kershaw would never go to Boston.
Will Kershaw actually be on the market? He seems like a Dodgers or retirement kind of guy. Hard to picture him in another uniform at this point in his career.
Jtm2889….too old….too fragile….not leaving LA……too long a injury history….None that the Red Sox will go after….
Darth – correct. I should have been more clear. There are not top of the rotation staters the the Red Sox can build around for the term of a five or six year run. Their best prospects will start arriving in 2024.
Yes he will stay in LA. You can disregard the other comments regarding him being too “old” and too “fragile.” Completely besides any relative point. He has ZERO desire to change uniforms. Lifetime Dodger no doubt.
Who said anything about a long term rotation?! Isn’t Boston always in a win now mode?
@rct the only team i see ker going to is tex and that’s only because that’s his “home town team” but it’s hard for me to see him in another uniform just like wanio and mo and something tells me that ker wants to be like wanio and mo and spend his whole hof career with the team his has ever know, but i could be completely wrong and ker is pitching for the o’s next year (before y’all re me i used that as an extreme example)
And who will all these great prospects be excluding Mayer cuz he’s a good one. Bello n Casa are good the rest of the farm gotta prove themselves
Huh??
Sign him and Devers long term, or I’m done. Not interested in following our best players for 4 or 5 years, then watch them leave. Highest ticket prices in the majors should be enough money to support keeping stars who want to be here. I’d rather pay them than pay 10 relievers and 3 old starters who aren’t very good each year.
Highest prices, yes. 28th/29th in seating capacity, also yes. Yankees seat almost 20k more per game 81 times a year.
“or I’m done”
OK..
You may want to start shopping for a new team.
you can get fenway tickets for as low as 15$ so…
I “get” your post, ray. This is not a small-market team. There’s no reason the Red Sox can’t sign or re-sign quality players. Bloom has been a bust so far. He and Cora should be booted if there isn’t a huge improvement in 2023.
Bloom, as bad as he is, is not the GM.
Scott – Honest question, what do you mean by that?
As the Chief Baseball Officer, Bloom makes all the player decisions.
The GM position isn’t what it used to be, Brian O’Halloran provides feedback but he doesn’t make final decisions on contracts and trades.
It’s just part of MLB teams’ ever-expanding front offices to split up duties.
It takes two to tango. Any team can try their hardest to extend their players, but what if the player is determined to try the FA market? And then what if another team makes a stupid offer that’s a ridiculous overpay?
Drawing the line at having to re-sign Bogaerts and Devers, seems unrealistic. If I was Bogaerts, or Devers, I’d want to see offers from other teams before I did anything.
tad – That is precisely why if a team is truly determined to retain a player, they will make a serious attempt to sign him at least a year before they are eligible for free agency.
Like they did with Whitlock, signing him to a 4-year extension plus two team option years.
Now that Xander is within a month of free agency, and he’s ticked off by the Sox having insulting him with a lowball offer, and he’s expecting a bigger contract now because of the recent mega-contracts given to shortstops, the only way the Sox could retain him is by massively overpaying.
If he’s not willing to let Story play SS, just wave bye,bye at him and use the money on Turner or Swanson. Yes he was better this year, but guessing who’d be better next year and moving forward is easy.
All the metrics indicate Story doesn’t have the arm to play SS anymore.
Turner or Correa not Swanson
I wonder what type of packages they could have gotten for Xander at the deadline. Hopefully that 4th/5th rounder turns into a major leaguer or the lack of trade might look bad in hindsight.
None, I read he rejected the trade with his full no trade clause.
Xander was never offered in trades. He didn’t reject any trade because none was brought him
Nothing if Xander didnt ok it a-la Hosmer, because he has full no-trade clause.
Bogaerts will be the new ‘Bo’, as in SS for the Blue Jays. Regular Bo, will be the 2B. Bold prediction but an exciting one too.
Chapman will be offered (and accepts) a contract from the Jays
Not bad.
Vlad will still be waiting on a big fat contract offer.
Aroldis Chapman to the Jays? As a Yankees fan, I like it!
I doubt this very much. Also Chapman is already under contract for next year
No he isn’t
Eight of the top 30 Red Sox prospects are shortstops. Story is a shortstop. Bogaerts isn’t worth the money and length of contract Boras will demand.
PK – Bogaerts balked at moving off SS. Marcelo Mayer is a top five prospect in all of baseball and should arrive in the MLB in 2024. Why lock up Bogaerts long term. Maybe the Red Sox get someone like Jose Iglesias for a year or two, and they can use the $$ on the outfield and pitching.
“Eight of the top 30 Red Sox prospects are shortstops. Story is a shortstop.”
PKCasimir;
The most relevant, bottom line post not just for this article, but for the over 100 that will come this offseason before Mr. Bogarts contract situation is resolved.
The Commissionaire’s office didn’t force those prospects onto the Sox.
Samuel – I read an article that Marcelo Mayer was the number 7 top 100 prospect in all of baseball, but will be moving up because of some prospects ahead of him “graduating”. The article stated that Mayer (Red Sox top prospect who plays SS) would end up as one of the top three in all of baseball going into next year. I have watched a lot of video of Mayer, and he does look that good!! This article does not mention him at all, and he is very definitely in the Bloom calculations on who plays SS for the 2023. A Bogaerts re-signing would block Mayer unless Bogaerts changes positions in a couple years. Maybe Bogaerts moves to third base when some other GM (in LA) give Dever $365,000,000.
Lol, LA is where Red Sox all stars go to finish their careers. We can start a list: Adrian Gonzalez, Mookie Betts, Rafael Devers in 2024….
Can’t blame him for heading to Aruba. Almost paradise. I’ll be there Dec. 26th through Jan. 5th!
2B Mariners next year….6/130
I doubt he’d sign for 4/130, let alone 6/130.
My guess is probably 6/200 to the Mariners. Move J.P. To 2nd
I’d rather have Correa for that price….
Correa to the Ms 7/225?
Well- he Sawx challenged my lifetime love of this team when they literally dumped Mookie to the Doggers for Verdugo, Jeter Downs & Wong-None of which showed any ML skills this season. This past season was a nightmare major challenge having to suffer through inconsistent poorly played baseball by a an extremely poorly constructed shallow roster. I believe its clear Sawx management above Alex Cora have ZERO ability to plan, build & execute an appropriate roster plan for a large market team.
Verdugo has been fine. You can’t compare him to Betts and the Sox had to get something for him. Nobody will ever know what Betts would have done in FA due to Covid. But I think he would have still ended up in LA.
Mookie’s response to the Red Sox 10 year $300,000,000 was 12 year $420,000,000. It is easy to see he was not interested in staying. Mookie is LA glitz…
I loved watching him play and sorry he did not want to stay! If Devers will not sign, I hope Bloom can gets something for him too!
There has been a lot of reports including from Mookie himself that he was shopping for homes around Boston expecting to be there long term. It’s impossible to know what his feelings were about remaining in Boston. I don’t think him taking $420 over $300 is fair. It’s not unreasonable for these guys to try to make as much as they can for the decade or two they are able to play baseball.
If he was their top priority, wouldn’t they have made an offer during the season?
Pads – They woulda made an offer to Xander prior to last offseason. They knew last winter’s class of free agent shortstops would break the bank, but instead they waited until AFTER all those mega-deals were signed and then they gave Xander a ridiculous lowball offer.
Nobody in their right mind would trust what Bloom says,
Top priority does not mean sign at all costs. It just means address the situation first then move on to Priority number two.
Sox lost series last season 4-2. That’s coming within 2 games of WS.
Bobby – I think the game Cora gave away is being counted by Steve as a Sox win.
With better managing, they WOULD have been one game away from the WS.
No, I think the game that the home plate umpire gave away counts as being close.
Hook Bloom up to a polygraph and watch his answer change.
What? Do you even understand what the word priority means? It does not mean sign Xander Bogaerts for $400 million, it means address and resolve the situation and then move on to the second most important item.
If Bogaerts wants more than 30 mil/season, it’s not getting done. How are they going to afford to fill this roster and leapfrog at least two other teams and get under the CBT? If he truly wants to stay and win, some amount of compromise is inevitable. Otherwise, he gets paid and they don’t compete. I can’t imagine John Henry is going to be complacent to pay tax again and not make the playoffs.
Bobby – Xander already gave a huge hometown discount on his current contract. It’s wrong to expect him to do it again.
If Seager is worth $325M and Semien is worth $175M then Xander is certainly worth more than $30M per.
I agree. Going beyond that may prove problematic.
Fever & Bobby: I doubt Bloom has a problem paying Xander $30M per year and maybe even more. I think the number of years is what will make or break the deal. Xander and Boras probably want 7-8 years. I doubt Bloom makes that deal and I think John Henry hired Bloom to avoid long, expensive deals with older players.
@feverpitchguy
If Seager is worth $325M and Seamen is worth $175M …
As they showed this year, neither were worth what they went for. Paying $30M per for Xander will be like the Cano contract all over. You don’t pay a 2B that type of money. And XB is not a SS.
How was Semien not worth the money? He had a 5.7 WAR which was down for him but clearly he outperformed his contract.
I’m just not buying it until I see it happening.
After their 1/$30,000,000 extension offer words like this are merely lip service. Going to be an interesting SS market this year
@ohyeadam## negotiations are just that. If one is offended by low ball offers, then they shouldn’t be involved in the process. as I recall, he didn’t make a counter offer. One can surmise that he didn’t do so because he did not want to appear greedy. By keeping quiet, he’s able to keep the public pressure on the FO. Perhaps he was planning on testing free agency from the get go and would only sign a deal that totally blew him away. I guess we’ll never know.
My thinking is Bogaerts to the Phillies for 7/210. He is going into his age 30 season in 2023 and will likely have to move off SS within a couple years.
His bat plays at any position, so even if he moves to 1B or DH, that contract will be worth it for the first 3-4 years.
I agree, I think the Phillies WC finish will motivate them even more to shop for top talent this offseason and they need a SS. Seems like a great matchup. Plus, as we’ve seen, they like offense, and XB is exemplary offensively.
His bat was bad when he played 3b for us, just saying. Complete turnaround when he played shortstop.
He has 50 starts at 3B in 10 seasons. His bat would play at any position today.
I’m just saying that he made it clear he didn’t want to play 3b when we put him there and that in turn caused his production to decline.
Don’t you think it’s more likely that it was being moved from position to position in his 2nd MLB season?
Team player, you say?
I don’t believe it went down like that. I believe he primarily played 3b that year until we switched him back. It was awhile ago, I could be wrong, but he voiced that he was not happy playing 3b. He even said recently that he is a shortstop.
Why the Phillies?
Bogey is the face of the Boston Red Sox they need to sign him long term make sure he retires a Red Sox something like 8/230 if someone offers more then that well it wasn’t meant to be. I think 8/230 is a realistic a little bit of an overpay but I think it’s necessary in this case bring back the face of the franchise and while they are at it extend Devers the money is there to do this and there would still be plenty of money to address the pitching in the off-season maybe even an outfielder with all the money the Red Sox have to play with this off-season. It’s time step up and get it done.
Yes I know the Red Sox have a great prospect that could be playing short in a couple of years but so what he’s a prospect he’s not Xander. Let’s be real Xander didn’t want to move off of short the year before he could opt out but if Mayer was a better option at short and Xander already got his contract I think he would move off short if it was best for team. He’s a team player he’s a winner and very well respected in the clubhouse it’s time to step and keep Xander.
Solid comment Bruin.
I think 8/230 is an overpay but not crippling. Happy to see a number south of $30/year. Keeps Bogey a Red Sox for likely the rest of his career.
If he doesn’t want to move off SS, Mayer looks like he can slide to 3B apparently.. if he even pans out.
Devers by that point will have either made his case to be the 3B or DH. He probably wants 3B money, but he’s just not great over there and I think that’s why the negotiations have gone the way they’ve gone so far. I don’t think the Red Sox want to pay $30/year for a DH down the road. 12/300 to Devers I think is fair and he also retires a Red Sox.
As far as prospects go, you never know if they ever pan out, so it’s tough to make room for someone 2, 3, 4 years down the road when you know what you already have with someone. At the very least, they can be used as a trade asset if they are truly blocked from the MLB roster.
All of this just to say that I actually do not want the Red Sox to use all of their flexibility on Bogaerts and Devers. I think Devers should the priority based on his age, but I also think Bogaerts is an expendable asset given his middle-of-the-road defense and his bat doesn’t offer the same pop it used to.
I know he is a fan favorite, but he is 30. He’s got 3, maybe 4 more years left of his prime years, if that. Some could argue the decline is already beginning.
On top of that, the only way Boston competes next year is if the break the bank open, which they won’t do… they just spent 3 years supergluing the piggy bank back to together again. And even 2024 is looking like a “eh, maybe 2025 will be better” type year.
So the real question is, “Why give Bogey the Mookie money when even Mookie wasn’t given the Mookie money? And why do it when the next realistic contention year isn’t until Bogey is 33, when he’ll most likely be declining if not in his last year of prime?
The window to sign this guy at a good deal for both sides is past. Sox FO dropped the ball on that one.
Let him go. Sox have other more pressing needs.
Just MHO.
Boston is a weird animal though. They really have been able to spin their fortune around quickly in this millennium and swing the pendulum completely the other way …. Seemingly at-will sometimes. I wouldn’t put it past them to be competing for first place in ‘24 (in the East) just because they’re Boston.
Years past I would agree, but ownership seems to have moved on from big time spending. It is too bad. Sox could have tied up Mookie, Bogey, and Devers for a decade if they opened the wallets just a little bit.
It’s a sad case of ‘What could have been” in my mind
DBH1969: Great posts. I doubt the Red Sox have moved on from big time spending. I do think they are trying to avoid long, expensive deals that often turn out to be wasted money and handcuff the team for years.
Boston went over the luxury tax this season. They are spending money. It just hasn’t been on the guys that would help them win now.
Why?
We thinking the Red Sox maybe decline to extend the QO as a showing of goodwill and respect to Bogey?
That would be a no.
I think respect was tossed out with the previous lowball offer. It’s a nice thought, just too late I think
A contract in place in 5 days? Seriously?
Isn’t Scott Boras still his agent?
Unless the Red Sox come up with $400m-plus doubt it’s even a possibility.
Interesting negotiating strategy…or public relations…..or something.
Red Sox soap opera officially started today!
My bad…..
“..five days after the World Series ends.”
What I wrote above still stands.
Samuel it isn’t going to take 400 million to sign Bogey that’s just crazy. Bogey has already said he wants to come back and he signed before for a lower number then Boras wanted. I’m guessing if the Red Sox offer him a fair offer he will sign. He says he wants to stay and I believe him just not at lowball cheesy offer. The bloom is in FSG’s court now pay the man.
Talk is cheap Chaim. Actions, not words, make it happen
Rsox;
You’re a sharp poster.
Try this on for size…….
I think Mr. Bloom is in to do the dirty work to transition the ML team and the organization . He may not get much past that.
Mr. Henry has won 4 Championships this century. No two of them with the same FO head and manager.
Epstein quit. Gammons brought him back. He quit again. Francona got blamed – he went to small market Cleveland, revitalized that franchise and got them to a WS. Cheringrton did what he was told and got blamed. Dombrowski won a WS and got blamed. There’s more that I forgot that you know.
In any business – including building a contending MLB team – it’s all about flexibility. I like Mr. Bloom, but he’s not going to be there in 10 years and probably not 5. That’s not John Henry’s style. When the transition is complete and Mr. Bloom is forced out he will be blamed, and Mr. Henry will be the knight in shining armor that rescued the franchise from the clutches of a demon.
Agreed. I don’t see Bloom making it past 2024 if things stay the way they are
Bloom was brought in to get the Sox under the luxury tax (which Dombrowski would never do) which he’s done, and replenish the farm which he has done, at least on the position player side.
When Henry’s ready to win again whoever the next guy is will have a sweet gig
Sox are not going to the WS in 2023 or 2024. They don’t remotely have the necessary pitching at the ML level or in the minors….and they don’t have the coaching to develop any.
This current situation was planned a few years ago.
As for Mr. Bloom – who makes a statement that they need to sign a guy in 2-3 weeks when he’s been ignored for a year? And the minority owners told Bogarts they want him to return? Mr. Bloom just got sandbagged….not the first under Henry. Epstein, Cherrington, Francona, Dombrowski and others are shaking their heads over todays statements and leaks. Been there…done that.
Mr. Henry got his feet wet in MLB as a minority owner of the Yankees. He saw how George Steinbrenner worked up close.
George ran that organization. He had a GM and manager and a bunch of his “baseball people” that thought THIS TIME THEY were running the organization. But George was forever pulling the rug out from under them. They only did run things when George was suspended from MLB and he allowed Gene Michael and company to do a rebuild after having the highest payroll in MLB for around 12 years yet not once making the playoffs. When he came back that team was so good he actually stayed a step away. Mr. Henry isn’t anywhere near that point.
No, he didn’t get them under the luxury tax. They were over this year too.
Welcome to St. Louis Xander!
4/130 sound about right?
I doubt that sounds good to Boras. They probably want at least a 7 year contract.
Don’t believe them. Red Sox brass are too focused on their other sports clubs. They had chances to extend their ballplayers and refused to.
Bloom is obligated to make such a statement. It’s public relations – were Bloom actually this eager to retain XB the deal would already be done. Bogaerts to Philadelphia.
I see people talking about prospects. I will take my chances on a seasoned vet who has proven himself over a prospect. Remember prospects like JBJ, Duran, Several pitchers, Dalbec, Chavis? When you have a great one, keep him.
Totally agree. Fans seem to think a highly ranked prospect is almost guaranteed to be an above average player, or even an AS. Most of the guys on top 100 lists won’t even be league average.
About 20% will have one or more seasons in their careers above league average.
He will always be a Red Sock in my mind from the way Jerry Remy said his name
Mariners shortstop next season 5 years / $150 mill.
Bloom should have traded X at the deadline to add to the farm system. Made no sense just to trade Vazquez and keep X,JD,Eovaldi. Now he’s going to walk and the Red Sox will get nothing for him.
Bogey is bound to move off SS. Use the money to sign Correa. He’s 2 years younger and a gold glover. Better hitter.
Resign Wacha to a 2 year deal. Mike Clevinger to replace Eovaldi. Sonny Gray to replace Hill.
Taylor Rogers in the pen. Sign Conforto or Kiermaier. Trade for Nick Ahmed and take on his salary to get one of their young outfielders.
Yaz for Dalbec, Duran, and Walter. Trade for Evan White from SEA. Eat his contract and get one of the young promising pitchers.
Yaz for Dalbec, Duran, and Walter. Trade for Evan White. Eat his contract and get one of the young pitchers.
Saying a GM/PBO should have traded certain players is becoming a familiar refrain. Cubs fans said that about Contreras, Giants fans said that about Bumgarner, and Smith 3 years ago, and again about Rodon and Joc this season.
In General, teams are currently over-valuing prospects. Getting a haul, or even a single highly regarded prospect for an impending FA, unless it’s a superstar like Soto, just isn’t happening anymore.
I just don’t buy that FOs are turning down good offers, and foolishly holding on to players.
Bloom should have traded X at the deadline to add to the farm system. Made no sense just to trade Vazquez and keep X,JD,Eovaldi. Now he’s going to walk and the Red Sox will get nothing for him.
Bogey is bound to move off SS. Use the money to sign Correa. He’s 2 years younger and a gold glover. Better hitter.
Resign Wacha to a 2 year deal. Mike Clevinger to replace Eovaldi. Sonny Gray to replace Hill.
Taylor Rogers in the pen. Sign Conforto or Kiermaier. Trade for Nick Ahmed and take on his salary to get one of their young outfielders
Bloom should have traded X at the deadline to add to the farm system. Made no sense just to trade Vazquez and keep X,JD,Eovaldi. Now he’s going to walk and the Red Sox will get nothing for him.
Bogey is bound to move off SS. Use the money to sign Correa. He’s 2 years younger and a gold glover. Better hitter.
Resign Wacha to a 2 year deal. Mike Clevinger to replace Eovaldi. Sonny Gray to replace Hill.
Taylor Rogers in the pen. Sign Conforto or Kiermaier. Trade for Nick Ahmed and take on his salary to get one of their young outfielders. Offseason done.
Bogaerts has 5/10 rights which means he can’t be traded without his consent. They explored that option and Bogaerts expressed desires not to be traded.
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Bogey does not have 10/5 rights… Entered this season with just a hair over 8 years of service time. His contract extension came with a NTC.
My bad. Full no trade rights is what I should have said. In any event, the effect for this conversation is the same.v
Is it fair to say that Boston’s situation with Bogaerts is reminiscent of the Yankees’ situation with Cano?
Fink: Yes. I think so. I think in these situations the number of years is the sticking point more than the annual salary.
And look how resisting the urge to overpay Cano to stay worked out for the Yankees.
Cano put up his numbers using PEDs. They caused his body to break down soon afterwards. There has never been any mention of Bogaerts using PEDs.
In 2023 Story is your SS and Kiki at 2b
Trevor Story is a clone of Troy Tulowitski. He’s just the 8 years younger version.
Unfortunately I don’t have much faith in bloom, the shortstop situation is a loose, loose for him him either he resigns Bogaerts and the Story signing looks stupid or he lets Bogaerts walk and he disenfranchises the fans and probably clubhouse (not to mention Bogaerts talent). Bloom just isn’t doing a good job building these teams each year and before you credit him with 2021, remember that while he did make a few savvy moves most of that roster was holdover from DD days. Tampa is a pitching factory and it’s clear now that Bloom wasn’t a big part of that when you consider that Bostons pitching has been a black hole the entirety of his time at the helm. Ownership needs to pull the plug before it becomes a complete dumpster fire (if it already isn’t)
“Lose, Lose” darn autocorrect