The Blue Jays subtracted from their outfield mix earlier today when they dealt Teoscar Hernandez to the Mariners. In the wake of that deal, they are now showing interest in adding free agent Brandon Nimmo, according to Jon Morosi of MLB.com.
Toronto’s general manager Ross Atkins spoke with members of the media on a conference call after the deal and, though he didn’t mention Nimmo by name, nothing he said would seem to preclude the club from such a bold move. “We’re in a better position to do so now from a resource and from a playing time and recruitment standpoint,” Atkins tells Shi Davidi of Sportsnet on the subject of adding a free agent outfielder. One option that’s on the table is acquiring a center fielder and pushing George Springer over the now-vacated right field position. “I know George will be open to it,” Atkins tells Ben Nicholson-Smith of Sportsnet.
If the Blue Jays are indeed interested in adding a free agent center fielder, they could hardly do better than Nimmo. Excluding Aaron Judge since he’s more of a right fielder, Nimmo is the clear top option available on the center field market. Then it’s a steep drop down to the next tier, consisting of veterans coming off injury-plagued seasons such as Kevin Kiermaier and Adam Duvall.
Having spent his entire career with the Mets thus far, Nimmo is a quality hitter, primarily for his ability to get on base. His career walk rate is 13.6%, well above the 2022 league average of 8.2%. That’s helped him produce a batting line of .269/.385/.441 for a wRC+ of 134, indicating he’s been 34% above league average in his time in the majors. He’s also been generally regarded as a quality outfielder, though perhaps not elite. Defensive Runs Saved gave him a 5 last year but a -3 in 2022. Ultimate Zone Rating had him at 3.4 in 2021 but -0.4 this year. Outs Above Average, however, had him at a 3 last year and a 6 this year.
Given that excellent production and his ability to also play the corners, Nimmo would likely be able to upgrade the outfield of the majority of teams around the league. It’s possible that Nimmo’s left-handed bat makes him extra appealing to the Blue Jays given their lineup is predominantly right-handed, though that wasn’t really a problem for them in 2022. Against right-handed pitching this year, the club collectively hit .266/.329/.432. That amounts to a 118 wRC+, indicating they were 18% above league average. Only the Dodgers at 122 wRC+ and Mets at 119 wRC+ were better against northpaws, which doesn’t suggest the club needs to make a left-handed bat a specific target.
Regardless, there’s an argument to moving Springer out of center field and into a corner, where the rigors of the position are generally agreed to be lesser. Springer is now 33, more than three years older than Nimmo, who is 29 and turning 30 in March. He’s also dealt with his fair share of injuries since joining the Blue Jays, only getting into 211 total games over the past two years. He’ll recovering from elbow surgery this offseason but is expected to be recovered in time for Spring Training. The advanced defensive metrics have him hovering around average in recent years, not terribly dissimilar to Nimmo. Of course, Nimmo has also dealt with injuries throughout his career, but his only significant absence of the past three seasons was a two-month stay on the IL in 2021 due to a left index finger contusion.
Since the Blue Jays aren’t the only team that could benefit from Nimmo’s skills, they will have competition and he won’t be cheap. The Mets are already known to be interested in bringing him back to Queens. MLBTR recently predicted a contract of $110MM over five years, which works out to $22MM per season. After today’s trade, Roster Resource puts Toronto’s 2023 payroll at $176MM. That means they’re already on track for an increase over last year’s franchise record Opening Day figure of $171MM, per Cot’s Baseball Contracts. A few non-tenders could bump that down a hair but it still means that the club will have to spend into uncharted territory, or make a sizable subtraction, to make a significant free agent splash. Though they upgraded their bullpen today by acquiring Erik Swanson, they likely still need to do some work on the rotation as well. Regardless of where the final number ends up, Atkins seems to think they have the funds necessary to address their needs. He told Nicholson-Smith that today’s trade added payroll flexibility but “we didn’t need it.”
Pete'sView
The Giants (who desperately need a lead-off hitter and great glove in center) better grab Nimmo or there’s gonna be a lot of restless fans in SF.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
If the Giants sign Judge their fans won’t worry about finding Nimmo.
Jung Like My Daddy
Why not both?
Pete'sView
Both would be great, but I’m betting Judge stays with the Yankees, and the Giants sign Correa.
foppert
Left handed ? Do we need another one in the outfield ? Joc, Yaz, Wade Jr, Gonzales…. I suppose moving on from one or 2 of those is on the cards.
I’m aiming high. Judge, Swanson, De Grom.
Pete'sView
foppert — I don’t think there’s any question that the Giants have too many LH outfielders. Someone is going to get traded. None of those are players who, if cut, wouldn’t be gobbled up by lots of clubs.
So, as usual, il’s time to wait.
But I will say that Nimmo is perfect for the Giants, even if he losses a few games to injury, there are players on the roster who can stand in if absolutely necessary.
He brings a great eye, an amazing career OBP, can hit to all fields, hits for some average (.276)—a perfect lead-off batter with an excellent glove, takes great routes. Hmm, I think the Giants need all of that. He’ll turn 30 next spring.
disadvantage
Eh, our fans are going to be restless no matter what Farhan does. Even if he signed Nimmo, Correa, deGrom and Judge, and they’ll still be posting “Wow, another dumpster dive by Farhan!! Does he even want to win?!” or something to that effect when he inevitably makes a minor transaction.
Pete'sView
Of course, but I don’t listen to the whiners. By and large, SF fans are pretty knowledgeable, but a few think MLB makeovers should happen at the snap of their fingers. It don’t happen that way.
JoeBrady
“Wow, another dumpster dive by Farhan!! Does he even want to win?!”
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ROTFLMAO! In the early-60s, MA had a lot of the computer industry. A lot of those computer workers relocated to SF as it took over the industry. That’s why both sets of fans consider anyone less expensive than $20M to be a dumpster dive.
Now repeat after me: “Waaahhh, the Giants are going to have a minimum wage team”.
MuleorAstroMule
There are fans with bad takes for every team. It’s just a numbers game. You lump together a few million people and some of them are bound to be dumb as rocks. But I like to think they’re more of a vocal minority than representative of fans as a whole. Also the Astros should sign Judge to play SS and DFA Pena.
Pete'sView
Look, MuleorAstroMule, if you’re gonna DFA Pena, Giants will trade you LaStella straight up for him: RH hitter for LH hitter. So much symmetry.
tstats
If they sign Nimmo, will the blue jays OF lead baseball in IL days?
VonPurpleHayes
That’s really Nimmo’s only flaw. It’s weird because Nimmo is underrated, but he’s about to be overpaid because the demand for quality CF types is so high. It’s just scary because he has a long injury history.
Ma4170
I love how the article tried to downplay the injury history… his only significant absence was, you know, missing almost half of 2021(only played in 92 games)
rct
But most of that ‘significant absence’ in 2021 (56 games) was due to getting hit in the hand by a Zach Wheeler pitch. Does that make a player injury prone?
Not all injuries are created equal. His missed time in 2021 should not be a concern to prospective teams because it was a fluke injury. A little more padding on his batting glove and he plays 145 games instead of 92.
His whole injury history is a few hamstring strains scattered over 7 seasons, a bulging disc issue that caused him to miss over 90 games in 2019, and a bruised hand that caused him to miss 56 games. How much of that is actually concerning to teams?
Ma4170
I think the neck issue is bc it seems to linger and that’s one that might be more relevant as he ages. Maybe hamstrings if that’s recurring, and his speed in CF is important bc his instincts aren’t great there.
I don’t think he’s brittle, I just don’t like when articles do that. Seems a bit like misrepresenting the truth. I’m a Nimmo fan btw, but I just don’t see the Mets outbidding other teams for him. I could be very wrong though.
georgebell 2
If it takes 5 years and $110 million to get him, I’d rather try to work a trade with Arizona or St Louis
ohyeadam
5/110 feels low to me considering what the SS are predicted to get. CF is a thin position league wide right now
Pete'sView
georgebell 2 — Can’t see the D-Backs trading within their division, but they DO have some excellent CF prospects.
Central Valley
Unless they attach Bumgarner? That’s probably what it would take..
TennVol
Kind of a no-brainer after the Hernandez trade today. Nimmo is the only everyday CF in free agency.
Murphy NFLD
I think there going to trade for an outfielder for a catcher. I think it makes STL a more likely option for the Jays now. Anybody else have thoughts on this? Before I figured they were going after a starter in trade but now I’m not so sure
DonOsbourne
Who would they be trying to get from STL? The Cards aren’t going to trade Carlson now that they have already traded Bader. O’Neill may be available but he’s a RH hitter just like Teoscar. You want Noot?
eatonculo
Noot or Burly.
KamKid
Toronto media has been pretty tunnel visioned on Nootbar. I like the skill set. Is it repeatable?
eatonculo
I think so. Like a lot of young players, he wasn’t good with sporadic play. He was great when he was in the lineup everyday. Really dynamic player.
iH8PaperStraws
I like your thought. Let’s swap Carlson and McGreevy for Kirk.
Darthyen
Nope,,,they Blue Jays would be nuts to trade Kirk especially with the shift going away. Not to mention he grades out very well defensively and could potentially get better. Now Jansen you can and moving him would actually help out pitching staff..
If I am to be honest I would think that St Louis would be after Moreno to fill Molina’s shoes. He has the potential to be as good as any of the Molina brothers. As a Blue Jays fan I hope they don’t trade him as he is the best fit to pair with Kirk and as I said could be a Molina by another name.
KamKid
How does the shift going away help Kirk?He’s a right handed all fields hitter who doesn’t really face a shift much. The shift going away is mostly going to aid left handed pull hitters.
Darthyen
Easy Kirk likes to, as you say, go to all fields BUT now the infielders have to stay on the turf and if you watch the games Kirk likes to pop that ball to that hole that will now be even bigger between the outfielders and infielders as infielders will no longer be able to shorten that gap by “playing deep”..
KamKid
That makes sense. I was thinking shifting left and right. Forgot about the feet on the dirt part. Though I kind of think the effects of the shift rules are going to be pretty negligible overall.
Samuel
TennVol;
Yes, they got their out-of-control payroll down a bit. Now it’s time to spend foolishly again.
The Jays are in the same boat as the White Sox. Little – if anything – coming up from the farm, so it’s spend, spend, spend…..trying to “fill holes”…..until someone holding the purse strings says: “No Mas”.
jdgoat
The Blue Jays spending is far from out of control. If anything they’re not putting near enough into that team considering the owners and market.
Darthyen
Thank you. I am glad some fans are not buying the Rogers koolaid that “we are at max spending” and “we can’t afford to swim in the deep end” BS.
Samuel
jdgoat;
Guys’ like you write this on here about almost every team….
And they’re always a bunch of likes.
Darthyen
But Samuel, jdgoat is right and many of us have said the same.
#1WhiteSoxFan
How about AJ Pollock? He plays CF.
dman07
If the Jays go 5 years and above $100M on this guy, it’ll be the death of their front office.
Best Screenname Ever
Nimmo will get 5 and 100+ from the Mets. Why would he go to Canada, plus play on concrete, for the same money?
If Toronto were to sign Nimmo the contract would look a lot like Springer’s. 6/150, and Nimmo will also be looking for a corner outfield spot after 2 years along with Springer.
Nimmo goes to the Mets. Free agency is just to determine his price.
Dustyslambchops23
Despite how annoying and ridiculous your post are best screenname I never block you because the very least it’s good entertainment. It’s good to contrast all the reasonable and intelligent takes on here with yours
Best Screenname Ever
Thanks for not blocking me Dusty. It means a lot.
Shoguneye
6/150? Not a chance the Jz would drop that on a solid but not exceptional veteran CF. Can get a filler and update SP
Best Screenname Ever
I don’t think they’ll sign him either. I wasn’t suggesting they would. I think a much more likely fit for Toronto would be Michael Brantley.. He’s old and they’d have to overpay but they could overpay with something like 3/80 vs overpay with 6/150 for Nimmo. Brantley can’t play center, and can barely play left, but they have Merrifield and occasionally Springer for center and Gurriel for left. And even at his age, Brantley is the best lefthanded bat on the market.
MarkoRock68
You think Brantley would get 3 yrs @ 27m AAV from the Jays. Pass the joint that gotta be good what you are smoking.
Cincyfan85
Honestly, they should probably focus on adding someone like Kevin Kiermaier. He brings some great D in CF and won’t cost the money or years Nimmo will. Blue Jays need to focus on extending Vlad, Bichette, and/or Manoah.
Digdugler
Jays gotta aim higher I think, they just traded their clean up hitter (120+ OPS+), they cant really replace with just a good defender. Trade for a young good defensive at least average batter would be the better bet there. Also KK is aging and legs dont get any younger.
Dustyslambchops23
As a fourth outfielder he would make a lot of sense, but agreed you need to aim higher to replace Teo’s production
One Bite Hotdog
“focus on adding someone like Kevin Kiermaier”=======================
Plus, he probably already has the Jays game plan in his possession. Could be a helpful head start.
Dustyslambchops23
Interesting tactic by the jays FO if this is legitimate.
Making Nimmo’s agents job a heck of a lot easier by creating a hole in the lineup and outfield that needs to be plugged.
Pete'sView
Dustyslambchops23 — If the Jays really wanted to go out on a limb (and I’m not saying they would), they could sign Bellinger and hope for the best. Unfortunately, he has more holes in his swing than I think is fixable.
Dustyslambchops23
I like that idea but the jays window is open and you I’m not sure they can bank on him to contribute meaningfully.
teo was a middle of the order bat and they probably need someone more consistent in that spot. I’d take him on as a 4th OF though, but unsure he will sign on for that
Cincyfan85
Blue Jays could also trade Danny Jansen to Arizona for Jake McCarthy. Blue Jays get a young, controllable CF that bats Left. Dbacks get the catcher they need. Win-win.
Moonlight Graham
Hey, you stole my proposal! I also think they should look at Nolan Gorman, Alec Burleson, and Austin Meadows. And of course, Bryan Reynolds would be a huge addition, if they can put the right trade package together.
KamKid
Would the D-Backs be in on a short term guy like Jansen? I’d be thinking one of the younger catchers and one of the better LH outfielders if those teams line up.
User 3044878754
Guardians close to deal on Kirk involving Myles Straw.
junior25
Lies, Jays not looking for another RH bat
Pete'sView
That would be a strange one given that Straw hasn’t proven he can hit Major League pitching.
Shoguneye
That would be an incredible gamble. Why not trade for proven talent unless Beiber in a package.
Samuel
Shoguneye;
With the way the Guardians are built, I very much doubt the Jays have a player they would trade Bieber for.
Ben10
Didn’t the Dipoto check-in on Nimmo’s camp? Doubt he’s in play. I think Seattle goes after Yoshido now.
Pete'sView
Dunno. Yoshido is a left handed DH, a clank glove in the field. Do the Mariners think they’ll do better than Suarez (31 HRs) and occasionally Winker (who I don’t think anyone else wants)?
Ben10
Masakata is an on base machine. He fits the Mariners narrative perfectly to a T, “Control the Zone.” This team loves players that can hit and get on base. Yoshido would fit it like a glove.
LFGMets (Metsin7)
Nimmo is very overated. Hes not a game-changer. A game-changer gets over 100 million. Nimmo’s real value should be around 4 years at 60 million. Having watched him for the past 6-7 years. He hustles everytime out there but also seems to have a nagging neck injury that has plagued him throughout his career. If any team gives him over 100 mil, they are gonna regret it. In no world should he be worth more than Starling Marte, including the age difference
flamingbagofpoop
I think he’s worth more than 4/60, but I think you’re right about the team regretting it if they give him 100m+.
thecrown24
I agree about Nimmo going to get over paid because he’s the only true CFer in Free Agency. Granted he played a hell of a CF this year he’s been a guy in the past to misjudge balls and take pretty awkward routes to fly balls. The fact remains though when he plays he is an OBP Machine and has been one of the best in the league since he’s been in the Majors. The one downfall with him is for a leadoff guy with such great speed he does not steal basically at all that’s one of my gripes with him as a player but all in all I think a fair price would be 5/85 but he’s def going to get 100 million plus and Mets are gonna have to pony up to retain him.
Ma4170
I mostly agree, mainly bc of the injuries and the fact his value primarily comes from walks. But he’ll still give decent SLG, and his attitude is awesome for a team. I wouldn’t go that high, but many teams will offer it.
niel.marshal
Chris Taylor from the Dodgers sign 60M for 4 yrs last year. And Nimmo, AFAIK, is a better hitter than CT3. Although preety sure the Dodgers FO rewarded CT3 versatility in this case though..
LFGMets (Metsin7)
I think its debatable that Nimmo is a better hitter than Chris Taylor. Obviously this season Nimmo did better but if you look at the past 4 seasons I might even give Taylor the upperhand
goob
Somebody is going to offer him 6/126.
Mario93
Somebody is going to overpay, and I doubt it’ll be them. So they basically signed their CF a couple years ago.. But he’s already getting up their in age so they wanna move him to a corner outfield position now.. So they signed an outfielder who gets paid CF money, to be RF who has durability issues, seems to always miss a big portion of a season in Springer. And I like Springer, he’s a very valuable player on the team. But that’s just what it is.
Now they wanna sign another CF, to possibly a 5-6 year deal apparently, who also won’t be CF possibly a couple years from now. How about just trading for one who’s young, under team control ?.. At this point, as dumb as Atkins is, he might as well sign Kevin Keirmaier to a prove it deal coming back from injury or whatever. At least he’ll be elite defensively.
As far as the last trade that Atkins made, I’m not impressed. Watched highlights of Swanson, he’s more so deceptive then a “flame thrower”.. doesn’t bode well for playoff baseball. He’s playing in the rogers centre now, and places like Fenway, and the Yankee stadium, he’s not pitching half his games in a ball park the size of the Pacific Ocean over there in Seattle.
Bad payroll management, bad trades, bad talent evaluation. Atkins will be gone soon, and I’m really glad. I just hope the next person to take over, whoever it is, won’t be dumber then him, which is hard, but definitely possible as bad as some gm’s are around baseball.
dugmet
I’m sure someone has analyzed Nimmo’s spray charts and hit types to see how his numbers could be impacted by the removal of the shift. The study could impact how much $ a team is willing to pay.
padam
I’m sure they’re doing it for all players, but he’s not a pull hitter and more of an OBA type with some moderate power. He could be the overpayment that many have suggested – he’s a decent player but he’s never been the ‘impact’ player to make enough of a difference to justify a 9 digit contract. Toss in his injury history and it goes sideways from there. Wouldn’t be disappointed to see him leave the Mets.
MarkoRock68
The Jays could make a 4 yr offer with options that vest given a certain number of ABs. 4@20=80. 2 Options that could boost it to 6@120-135 range.
Dexxter
Interesting idea… but I don’t think it would work. Someone mentioned above that the Jays might need to overpay to get him to come to Canada and they could be right.
Jays have a hole in the OF and two in the rotation. But a valuable C (or two) to trade and should have money to spend. Will be interesting to see what assets they use to fill which holes.
OF are easier to trade for than pitchers…. So maybe that’s the way they end up going.
ChuckyNJ
When Nimmo signs with Toronto it’ll be time for another round of LOLmets.
Skell 2
Ludicrous to give Nimmo 110 million dollars. Back off and trade a catcher for an outfielder.
Mario93
Agree 100%. Atkins still isn’t learning..
Samuel
Mario93;
He’s not the only one……
Who has a quality CF available and would be winning to trade him for a catcher?
Mario93
Considering there’s 30 teams in baseball, and not all of them are contending, I’m pretty sure the Jays could acquire an outfielder to play CF. And where did this notion come from that we suddenly “need” a CF? Springer is fairly decent out there, just because he’s 33 years old, doesn’t mean we absolutely need a CF, when to me at least, he hasn’t really shown a decline in the outfield. As far as injuries, he’s always suffered from them going back to his Astro days.
And also this idea that we need a lefty bat, what difference is one lefty bat going to actually make in a lineup of 9?.. That one lefty is going to hit us the game winning world series home run?.. Like, come on. Doesn’t even make sense. This roster has been poorly built, it lacks proper balance, it’s in need of numerous lefty bats, not just one.
And you can get a CF. You don’t need to trade a catcher, trade one of your elite pitching prospects, trade a prospect for prospect, who’s on the door step of the big leagues. Be creative. I remember Alex Anthopoulos being creative when he was our gm, he went on to help the braves win a World Series.
We have a leadership group who’s at best average in Shapiro and Atkins. And average won’t cut it at all.
Skell 2
Ummmm yeah we need a lefty bat, ideally 2
mattyj
If I’m the jays , I pass on Nimmo at that price . I would make two trades . Aquire Jake McCarthy from Arizona . Second trade would be for Bryan Reynolds, David Bednar and Johan Oviedo from the Pirates .
zeuz1
The Padres could use Nimmo…..he would be a huge upgrade from Trent Grisham who can’t hit. Nimmo would also solidify the Padres lead off spot.
zeuz1
Nimmo would look great in a Padres uni. A lead off hitter the Padres desperately need, and a center fielder who can hit. Trent Grisham is a fourth outfielder and late inning defensive replacement.
zeuz1
Nimmo would be perfect for the Padres. A lead off hitter, which the Padres desperately need, who can hit. Huge upgrade from Trent Grisham, who’s struggled greatly at the plate. Grisham’s a fourth outfielder, late inning defensive replacement guy.
BlueJ’sAllDay
I’m seeing Teo being traded and hoping this means they can’t possibly trade Kirk. That would leave a major hole in the middle of the lineup. Add a Nimmo and we’re still a force offensively. Trade for a Carlson type for Kirk and we’re not anywhere close to what we were before. Jansen is not a middle of the order bat. Don’t let last years numbers fool you. Moreno is an incredible contact hitter but he is not Kirk when it comes to hitting overall. I still like the idea of Jansen getting traded coming off a career year and getting a solid bullpen piece/prospect slightly less than Teo.
1) Springer
2) Nimmo
3) Guerrero
4) Kirk
5) Bichette
6) Chapman
7) Gurriel
8) Merrifield
9) Espinal
I’d be pretty happy with that lineup still. I’m happy we are prioritizing pitching. It’s an obvious need
Win Cor
You underestimate Carlson…. For a player in his second year that kills LHP….and plays CF which there are pretty much none in the MLB that are any good.
Big whiffa
No chance Tor is in on Nimmo. Why trade away a better outfielder to pay more for an inferior product? This is nothing more than media posturing.
Win Cor
The Cardinals need to declare an interest in Nimmo. It’s the right thing to do. It’s the leveraged thing to do. Toronto desperately needs a controllable OF. several teams do. The Cardinals best take that away from the market leaving them with all the best available OF in the league.