The Mets are facing a number of high-profile free agents as the offseason looms. Among them is center fielder Brandon Nimmo, who’s easily the best non-Aaron Judge free agent option at the position. Nimmo and his representatives at the Boras Corporation will soon hear from a number of interested teams, as they’re allowed to formally speak with clubs other than the Mets five days after the conclusion of the World Series.
New York will surely keep in touch with Nimmo themselves, but they do have a potential in-house replacement if he departs. Starling Marte had played exclusively center field with the D-Backs, Marlins and A’s from 2020-21, but he moved to right field in deference to Nimmo after signing a four-year free agent deal last offseason. Marte didn’t start a single game in center field in 2022, logging all of five innings at the position. He played just under 1000 innings in right field.
After spending a year playing in a corner and having recently turned 34 years old, it’s fair to wonder if Marte’s days as a regular center fielder could be behind him. Speaking with Joel Sherman and Jon Heyman of the New York Post on The Show podcast this morning (Twitter link), Mets general manager Billy Eppler said the team would be comfortable deploying Marte as their primary center fielder in 2023 if necessary.
“Can Starling still play center field? Yeah, we believe he can,” Eppler told the Post. “That opens up some optionality for how we ultimately fill out that outfield. … We do have the ability to slide Marte over to center for a number of games, over 50% of the games. He’s got that ability to do that. … We are comfortable with him in center field.”
That’s certainly not a declaration the Mets are closing the book on retaining Nimmo. Eppler called re-signing Nimmo “not a closed case by any stretch of the imagination” and broadly spoke highly of his ability. One can argue for the Mets bringing back Nimmo as the center fielder and a top-of-the-lineup presence while keeping Marte and Mark Canha in the corners. Yet as Eppler noted, the possibly for Marte to slide back up the middle offers some additional flexibility in building out the roster if Nimmo does depart.
Public defensive metrics were mixed on Marte’s performance in right field during his debut season in Queens. Defensive Runs Saved credited him as three runs better than the average right fielder. Ultimate Zone Rating and Statcast’s Runs Above Average metric each pegged him below par, with UZR assigning him a -8 mark and Statcast putting him at -2. Eppler didn’t address Marte’s defensive metrics specifically but noted the outfielder battled some tightness in his left groin midway through the season. That perhaps explains in part a dip in his range that shouldn’t linger into 2023 after an offseason of recovery. Marte had zero MLB experience in right field before 2022, but he’d been consistently excellent in the other corner spot throughout his career.
His recent center field work has been mixed but serviceable. Between 2020-21, Marte logged 1509 1/3 innings in center. Both Statcast and UZR rated him a hair better than average, while DRS had him at a below-average but not intolerable -6 runs over that stretch.
In any event, the Mets will have to add an outfielder this offseason. Retaining Nimmo and keeping Marte and Canha in the corners would be the most straightforward outcome. Still, a nine-figure Nimmo deal could be beyond their liking as they also see players like Jacob deGrom, Edwin Díaz, Chris Bassitt and Taijuan Walker (the latter two of whom are locks to decline options) hit the market. New York has as much spending capacity as any team under owner Steve Cohen, but they’re virtually certain to see at least a couple players of note depart for loftier guarantees elsewhere.
If Nimmo is among that group, the Mets would have more to work with attacking the corner outfield market than adding a center fielder. Aside from Judge and Nimmo, the top free agent center fielder is likely Kevin Kiermaier, who’ll be bought out by the Rays after an injury-plagued year. A Cody Bellinger non-tender would add an excellent glove to the mix and vault him above Kiermaier as the #3 option, but Bellinger is a .193/.256/.355 hitter over his past 900 plate appearances. There also aren’t any clear upgrades who’ll be available in trade, with players like Cedric Mullins and Bryan Reynolds looking unlikely to move.
The corner outfield market is a bit deeper. Judge is obviously the prize, but the middle tier of free agency offers options like Andrew Benintendi, Mitch Haniger, Joc Pederson, Joey Gallo, Michael Brantley and old friend Michael Conforto. There’s also a wider pool of potential trade candidates, with Hunter Renfroe, Lourdes Gurriel Jr., Max Kepler and Anthony Santander among those who could be floated in talks over the coming months.
Edp007
Can’t wait for the Aaron Judge frenzy.
LordD99
He’ll be attached to many teams, they’ll be excitement, then he’ll re-sign with the Yankees.
YankeesBleacherCreature
I wonder how the Reds are going to sell him during his requisite F.A. tour.
Rsox
There will be the 4 or 5 teams that can legitimately sign him and then the 25 “mystery teams” that Jon Heyman will say are interested…
Skell 2
Mets will never win another World Series. That scherzer contract, the Lindor contract, whatever they give DeGrom and Polar bear….. all ending awful.
Yep it is
Forgot those guys. 9 figure for a career .269 hitter in Nimmo?? No Way
King Floch
That “career .269 hitter” has a career .385 OBP.
That is why he’s going to get a 9 figure contract, and rightfully so.
metslvt17
Nimmo has been criminally underrated for years. I tell people all the time: go compare Nimmos line to Byron Buxton. People are always shocked to see it side by side
eephus11
The fact that he suddenly plays 150 games in his contract year tells me he is a bad bet at 9 figures.
Flyby
couldnt you say the same for Judge especially when he is close to a year older and probably commanding 3 times that amount and probably double the years?
Im a little weary of both but 4 or 5 yrs at 20 per seems about right for nimmo considering he plays a premium position and is top of the market by a good margin and is a true leadoff hitter which is rare nowadays it seems.
Say Hey Now Kid
@eephus I read somewhere (probably here) that the people upstairs told Nimmo to play further back and concede some singles so he wasn’t overexerting himself/slamming into walls. I think that explains the 150 games.
Cosmo2
2022 and ignorants are still judging players solely on batting average. Unbelievable.
VonPurpleHayes
I don’t even think they should show it on TV anymore. It’s a meaningless stat when looked at by itself.
JoeBrady
No stat is overly meaningful by itself. If you tell me a player has a 150 Ks, the first words out of my mouth will be ‘compared to how many walks’, followed very closely by ‘how many HRs’.
VonPurpleHayes
Very true, Joe.
Ma4170
I don’t think BA is meaningless at all – still very important to be able to move runners more than one base at a time, and a hit way more valuable than an out (and more than a walk, contrary to popular belief). But I agree, it’s not the only thing someone should be judged against, but neither is OBP or even SLG in isolation.
Cosmo2
It’s not useless entirely but it’s useless when examined alone. Also, it’s VERY much subject to luck whereas walks are a stat that can better be used to predict future performance. All that together makes BA one of the less important stats. In terms of moving runners along, a better stat to look at is contact rate.
rememberthecoop
wRC+ is my go-to offensive stat.
rememberthecoop
Another somewhat meaningless stat is RBI. Those are more a product of opportunity, SAS you can’t drive in runs when nobody is on base.
Lyman Bostock
I’d first ask if he’s a pitcher or position player, if you tell me a player has 150 k’s
Sunday Lasagna
Back when Baseball was played in a different way, a 2 hole batter took pitches to allow the lead off guy to steal and then hit a ground ball to the right side to get that runner to third. For other batters, all of the hit and runs to stay out of the double play, had to swing down and keep that ball on the ground. Wonder how much different OBP for a lot of those guys would be in todays game.
Cosmo2
Baseball has progressed. What you describe is a convoluted, largely ineffective strategy. Like, part of your strategy gives the runner a 25% chance of getting thrown out and then you give up an out to advance one more base. There are good reasons it’s not done like that anymore.
Sunday Lasagna
@Cosmo2 I don’t think it was a good strategy, but I don’t fault the managers of that era either, there was no access to what we know and see today. I also believe a lot of players sacrificed stats in order to play that game.
Cosmo2
Yea that’s true. It also worked a bit better when opposing managers fell into the trap, so to speak. Tom Herr was always a decent hitter, solid OBP, but opposing managers turned him into an all star by feeding him fastball after fastball every time Coleman or Ozzie was on base. Nowadays they wouldn’t let that speed get them so rattled.
Ma4170
Yes and no… generally those with consistently higher batting averages are making more frequent and better quality contact. Walks have become extremely overrated… not that they’re not valuable, but to value a 240-340 avg OBP hitter over a 290-330 makes little sense (assuming these are their career norms and not outlier numbers)
A stat that gets no credit anymore is total bases, which not only speaks to durability, it speaks to significant movement on the bases
Cosmo2
You have to look at BA and OBP together in that case .245/.380 is better than .285/.330. I’m sure there’s a formula for it to be more accurate. Honestly I think you are overrating contact vs getting on base.
rememberthecoop
Batting average is not nearly as important as OBP. Look, the goal of every at bat is to get on base, one way or the other. And while a walk isn’t always as good as a hit, it serves the main purpose. Nimmo will eclipse 20MM per season IMO.
Jesse Chavez enthusiast
I believe BA is important just because of how it pertains to OBP. Not useless, but like most things it shouldn’t solely judge a players value. Like some people might say a player with a .220 BA is bad but completely ignore the fact the same guy has a .370 OBP
Sunday Lasagna
@Mariano, one of my favorite on base articles talks about one of those low average high on base guys of yesteryear. Imagine a catcher in todays game that had those on base skills!
friarsonbase.com/2020/12/05/padres-history-look-un…
DaOldDerbyBastard
Okay. Stop watching and/or posting about them. Just turn in your badge and enjoy the rest of your life.
Sunday Lasagna
@skell2 Every team has poor contracts. Contracts are by nature a gamble. Some pay off, some don’t……..and the words “always” and “never” put any theory out on a limb.
Cosmo2
Most big contracts don’t pay off though.
Sunday Lasagna
@Cosmo2 agreed, players fail to live up to big contracts more often than not. Money is better placed on talent evaluation to maximize talent acquisition in the draft, in international signings and in trades.
JoeBrady
Big contracts are designed to not pay off. If you sign a FA, then almost by definition, you are paying more than 29 other teams. That means you probably overpaid, unless the other 29 GMs were wrong.
Cosmo2
You’re right, which is why it’s insane to hand out big contracts
RunDMC
More importantly, who is the backup when Marte is on the IL 50 games?
Rsox
JBJ?
alproof
JBJSTINKS
Rsox
Only at the plate. If you could have a “Designated Fielder” lots of teams would love to sign him
Say Hey Now Kid
Pete Crow-Armstr…. SHOOT!
rememberthecoop
Yeah, PCA will be the Cubs starting centerfielder in 2024.
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What is going on in this world? I order 2 burgers, a turkey & pastrami melt, and chili cheese fries…..I receive 2 philly cheesesteaks with avocado……Oh man…
Samuel
TrumboJumbo;
Do you buy antacids by the case?
Stop by Burbank and get an Italian Beef sandwich. I have to look up the name of the place. An actors wife used to own it. Italian Beef sandwiches are all over Chicago. She did land office business with the studios in the area.
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Sam, you wouldn’t even believe tonight….Tonight was supposed to be a “treat.” AKA ME not cooking…..long story short, 3 other places were being flaky so I decided to go for broke…Never the less, the 2 measely sandwiches I received hardly made the cut. I order extra to have lunch for the next day sometimes. And I take prescribed pantaprazole for my heartburn. Nexium when I run out. Double up at times.. I am a good eater though. Only splurge at times. Mindful of sodium etc.
…Sometimes you gotta let loose though.
Samuel
Trumbo;
Next time you drive down to Anaheim stop at Portillo’s. Our favorite Italian Beef restaurant in Chicago. Opened up a location close to Knotts Berry Farm. We used to stop there when going to San Diego.
Try the Italian Beef sandwich.
Don’t be intimidated by the long lines. They’ll get you served in 5-7 minutes.
The address is on their Web page.
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Sam The Man!!! Oh boyyy!!! I have been to the Portillos off of Orangethrope and Beach near Knotts Berry Farm! Had one of the best chopped cobb salads of my life there!!! I joke about that place with one of my good pals because we always remember it! Portillos is serious business! Every darn thing on the menu is good!
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P.S. Sam, thanks for the tip! Italian beef dip is one of my favorites! Definitely will try Portillos incarnation one day soon..I think the Buena Park and Anaheim one might even be one in the same…Very close to one another.
JoeBrady
Don’t be intimidated by the long lines.
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The second date my wife and I went on was to the Pine Tavern in the Bronx. It was a hole in the wall back then, so it was an easy 30 minute wait. My wife sees I am getting impatient so she said we could leave if I wanted to. So I go past the kitchen to cancel our reservation, and almost passed out from the smells.
Needless to say, I go back to my wife and tell her ‘yeah, I can a little while longer”. Long lines no longer bother me.
VonPurpleHayes
Random fact: The Phillies are undefeated in the postseason whenever I eat a cheesesteak before the game. I hope they win it all so I can get back to healthy eating soon!
Robrock30
VonPurpleHayes,
Good One. For the Record I ordered a Philly cheesesteak with onions and peppers & sweet potato fries at the Start of the World Series Game Last night and then the Home Run Barrage Began while I was dining.
By the way, who called this one during the Spring?
rememberthecoop
Another random fact: every year in which a Philadelphia MLB team has won a title – going back to the A’s – our country has had a major recession.
Samuel
More posturing for negotiations……
Marte cannot play CF much more than once a week; and if he tries and manages to avoid injuries it’ll wear him down so his offense will sufferer.
It’s free agent silly season time.
JoeBrady
More posturing for negotiations……
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Thanks for not making me write this. These pronouncements on both sides are meaningless. When Cashman was pursuing Damon, he said he planned on making Bubba Crosby his CF. Crosby only had less than 100 ABs remaining in his career, but that was Cashman’s pronouncement.
No one ever believes this stuff.
Samuel
“No one ever believes this stuff.”
I don’t know about that Joe……
MLBTR writes stuff like this when it happens. Then other MLBTR writers stick it in their articles all off-season. At the end of the off-season when press conferences are held we find that there was no truth to any of it……and for years afterwards a few posters will continue to write it as a determining factor as to is why someone that was involved is this (good) or that (bad); or why something big happened or didn’t happen.
LOL
rememberthecoop
Wait…are you telling us that the media promotes lies and creates the news rather than report the news? I’m shocked!
JoeBrady
Despite what the writers say about “inside sources”, I doubt there are any at all. Rumors fall into four categories.
1-Agents like Boras ask writers to issue “insider” reports that Bloom is preparing a huge package for Judge. For the writer(s) that print it, Boras will give them a little bit of advanced notice on signings.
2-GMs like Bloom will tell agents like Boras that they can feel free to spread rumors about Bloom loving judge, and that Bloom won’t deny it.
3-GMs like Bloom will let their secretaries leak they are interested in either Bogaerts or Turner, or whatever the opposite of their intentions really are.
4-As often as not, I think writers like to report trades that they would like, and report it as “inside” information.
No one knows, and the ones that do know, aren’t talking. The chances of Cashman and/or Bloom handing out free information to be used against them, is -0-.
Ghost Pepper
You may need a diaper.
angt222
Great and he will play 90 games next season. Makes no sense when he’s traditionally been injury prone in his legs.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Owner a Phillies fan or knows you’re a fat @$$?
BeansforJesus
“…his representatives at the Boras Corporation”
The “Boras Corporation” sounds like a it belongs in a PKD novel, like total recall. It’s like Hank Scorpio is running it while casually trying to poison diplomats and direct us to hammock stores.
I have to think that’s intentional. Group and partner aren’t as intimidating as “Boras Corp”.
cleonswoboda
kudos for the PKD reference.
LFGMets (Metsin7)
Some of these “defensive stats” are just flat out untrue. Marte made spectacular plays in right field this year. He looked like he could get to the ball just about anywhere. I thought Lindor was a shoo-in to get a gold glove this year but I guess the defensive stats werent too high on him either. I don’t believe the eye test should be the number one deciding factor but, there definetly needs to be a mix between the eye test and a computer
Cosmo2
Eye test is a terrible way to judge defense. Some of those threat looking plays Marte made would probably have been casual outs for other fielders. Call it Derek Jeter syndrome. That being said, I think Marte is fine in center as there aren’t many options these days. I want Nimmo back though.
VonPurpleHayes
It’s interesting that there are so few good CFs out there anymore. It definitely increases Nimmo’s value.
Cosmo2
Yea I think that’s an important point. Judging Marte or Nimmo as CFrs needs that context. So few “true” CFrs in todays game. Could be a result of lesser emphasis on developing speedy players. Could also just be that advanced metrics show us that a lot of players we would’ve thought were good in the past are actually not good. That’s where the flaws of the eye test come in.
VonPurpleHayes
A big shift in the Phillies season was when they got Marsh at the deadline to play CF. A solid defensive CF makes a huge difference. Amd Nimmo is a huge boon to the offense as well. I think it’dbe a mistake not to resign him. A rare talent.
Robrock30
Huge Brandon Marsh Fan who knew the Phillies scored big at the Trading Deadline with him
rememberthecoop
Another reason is that home runs pay the bills. So players bulk up more to hit bombs. But you and Von make vLid points. And a guy like Straw whonplays solid D but can’t hit is being played almost every day, which tells you something about how teams value a CFer if they have a good one.
Ma4170
There’s still subjectivity involved in who could get to which ball when looking at a situation, so we also need to stop treating defensive metrics like they’re infallible. It’s not like player X w average speed of X will always get the jump he tends to normally get, and will reach his average speed in that particular play on that given day.
Cosmo2
No one is saying metrics are infallible, you’re straw-manning. But they are MUCH more accurate than the eye test.
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The day Trout is told that he can’t play CF anymore is the day he gets traded. CF for life.
Robrock30
Wow Eppler is as clueless as Sandy Alderson if he thinks Marte will hold up in CF. Living in the Past LOL Mets! Meanwhile Dave Dombrowski is showing them how to manage a Trading Deadline and is signing the FAs to get it Done!
Robrock30
Hint: Kyle Schwarber and Brandon Marsh
AdamGe
I would prefer not to rely on Marte in CF as he gets injured a lot and is often hurt but the Mets could survive with him there and McNeil in RF. Probably easier to add someone to at third base and/or second base.
Canha should be used as a fourth outfielder. Please stay away from Guys like Bellinger or Kiermaier who are declining.
Cosmo2
Is Baty so bad at third that he’s not even an option? I prefer McNeil at second but they’ll have to go with how the flow goes in free agency.
Robrock30
Baty looked unplayable at 3B to me. Bohm bad
Cosmo2
Yea I’ve heard he’s awful. That’s unfortunate. I was hoping otherwise.
rememberthecoop
Belli isn’t declining- he is done. Still plays good D and is a plus baserunner, but that one great year looks like a guy who knew what was coming (And no, the Astros weren’t the only team cheating). And K could.never really hit.
Robrock30
nypost.com/2022/11/02/world-series-2022-country-st…
This is what the World Series is about.
steven st croix
Eppler is in over his head, again
Say Hey Now Kid
I posted this earlier but apparently the higher ups told Nimmo to play further back. Teams get more singles to center but it might be what kept him healthy (less sprinting, crashing). I wonder if the same could work for Marte. That would be awesome if so
Say Hey Now Kid
I like Nimmo a lot but the Mets can’t resign everyone. If Marte’s a possible replacement then great. Focus on pitching
Cosmo2
They need Nimmo’s OBP. Also, I’d rather have two guys capable of playing CF rather than running a gag worthy player like Billy Hamilton out there if Marte gets hurt. But I see your point about not being able to sign everyone.
Say Hey Now Kid
@Cosmo, curious what you think (and everyone else really) about resigning deGrom. I think the smart play is to let him walk, but this Mets fan will shed a lot of tears
Cosmo2
Public pressure to sign him is gonna be huge but as great as he is, his starts haven’t translated into massive winning. I’m sure a lot of that is bad luck, but he’s gonna command stupid ridiculous money. Letting him walk is gonna sting, but it’s probably necessary in order to build a well rounded team.
Buuba ho tep
The man says…it’s Bob Nuttings fault
NYMETSHEA
Mets have about 136 million in payroll before arbitration salaries. That is after deGrom, Bassitt, Walker opt out as well as Diaz free agency. After arbitration salaries, the Mets should have about 170 million on the payroll.
Mets will need to fill 3 rotational spots and an outfield spot while rebuilding the bullpen and bench.
Mets will need Cohen to pony up more money for 2023 than 2022.
NYMETSHEA
Mets could sign Aaron Judge, Edwin Diaz, Bassitt (after opt out). Sign a back-end rotational starter, then rebuild the bullpen and bench.
Marte
McNeil
Judge
Alonso
Lindor
Vogelbach
Canha
Escobar/Baty
McCann/Nido/Alvarez
Cosmo2
They’ll need more starting pitching than that. Payroll is gonna be a big obstacle.
dlw0906
If Starling is penciled in as the day-to-day CFer for 2023 then something seriously went sideways this offseason.
MLB-1971
Met fans are no where near as snarky as Yankee fans….