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Farhan Zaidi: “Unlikely” That Giants Can Circle Back To Carlos Correa Deal

By Simon Hampton | January 1, 2023 at 6:05pm CDT

Giants president of baseball operations Farhan Zaidi addressed reporters (including ESPN and Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle) for the first time since the team’s $350MM deal with Carlos Correa fell through due to concerns raised in the physical. Correa has since agreed to a $315MM deal with the Mets, but they too are concerned by the player’s physical and that signing has not been made official.

It’s been quiet since reports emerged on Christmas Eve that the Mets had concerns over his physical, with the last report stating the teams were working through things and a deal with New York still appeared “likely”. That’s not stopped a few other teams checking in on the situation, and Zaidi confirmed that the Giants have also checked in with Correa’s agent Scott Boras.

“We’ve had some conversations. Since then, obviously, you know, we’ve been in touch with Boras on other players as well. But our understanding and, as it’s been reported, they’re focused on a deal elsewhere at this point. So I think chances of a deal with us at this point are pretty unlikely based on their position,” Zaidi said.

Correa’s deal with San Francisco falling through shocked the baseball world. The Giants had scheduled a press conference to introduce their new star, but postponed that to further investigate Correa’s physical. That set off a chain of events that came together quickly, and within 24 hours Correa had agreed to a deal with the Mets. Zaidi confirmed that the Giants and Correa’s camp had different views on the medical review, but said they maintain a strong relationship with Boras.

“I was on the phone with Scott Boras on the Monday that we did Carlos’ physical right when his plane landed in San Francisco at 5 p.m., and those conversations continued from that point, so any suggestion that this was an 11th-hour thing is just not accurate. As soon as we had information, we shared it. We have a good working relationship with Scott Boras and his agency.”

The off-season has surely been a frustrating one for the Giants organization. They came into the winter in search of a new face of the franchise, and make a strong push to sign top free agent Aaron Judge. The reigning AL MVP would turn them down to re-sign with the Yankees on a nine-year, $360MM deal. They quickly pivoted to Correa, and just six days after news broke that Judge had agreed to return to New York, reports emerged that the Giants and Correa were in agreement on a 13-year deal.

The team has still been active this winter, adding Ross Stripling and Sean Manaea to their rotation, Taylor Rogers to the bullpen and Michael Conforto and Mitch Haniger to the outfield. San Francisco certainly has a stronger roster as a result of those moves, but they do lack the superstar they coveted coming into the off-season, and the free agent market no longer has any stars.

“One of the unfortunate aspects of the offseason is there’s been — and maybe this is inevitable given the players — a lot of attention paid to players that we wound up not signing rather than the players that we have signed,” Zaidi said.

One added layer to the Correa saga is what it means for long-time Giants shortstop Brandon Crawford. He’s entering the final year of his contract, and is owed $16MM in 2023. A Correa signing would have likely meant that Crawford moved to third-base, but it seems with the Correa deal off he’ll be manning short in his 13th season in San Francisco.

“I’m sure it was a frustrating and confusing period for him, but I also said we had to explore every opportunity to improve this team, including the group of shortstops that were out there, All-Star-caliber players that we all felt would really improve our team. I think Brandon was aware that adding one of these players was a possibility. It didn’t work out and he’s our shortstop now and we want and expect to be a playoff team.”

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  1. Buzz Killington

    2 years ago

    Zaidi lucked out by not following through on the Correa deal. Paying an injury prone player to a $350 million deal is not a good idea. Especially when he’s prone to massage related injuries.

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    • Holy Cow!

      2 years ago

      This is a recycled comment.

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      • Curly Is A Dumb Stooge

        2 years ago

        What a buzz kill.

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      • Braves Butt-Head

        2 years ago

        Well then hes trying to protect the environment lay off him lol

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        • Skell 2

          2 years ago

          I can think of 1 deal over $200 million that worked out for an MLB club. That’s Max Sherzers 7 year deal with the Nats. Yet here we are seeing contracts approaching $400 million.

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        • dugmet

          2 years ago

          Teams might not have the same perspective on “working out”. If the short term gains on the field and revenue outweigh long term costs.

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      • Curly Was The Smart Stooge

        2 years ago

        Circled back, are you serious? This is something I stepped on, & I can’t get it off the bottom of my shoe…

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      • WAR_OVERRATED

        2 years ago

        Exactly. It’s perfectly correct for a recycled article about Carlos “Show me the Money I’m a Cheater” Correa.

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    • CaptainJudge99

      2 years ago

      Maybe the Giants can circle back to the Arson Judge deal?

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      • rememberthecoop

        2 years ago

        Haha Well Captain, we’ll always have that infamous Heyman comment from this offseason. Arson Judge – he will never live that down. (Not to mention his source being so wrong)

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        • CaptainJudge99

          2 years ago

          @rememberthecoop- Yes, in Jon Heyman we don’t trust. Lol.

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      • gfan

        2 years ago

        Still waiting on your new material. I won’t hold my breath.

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        • ARC 2

          2 years ago

          Only reason Zaidi said this because Boras was probably telling Mets he would go back to the Giants. Boras is in a hard situation because nobody wants to fully guarantee Carlos contract without a opt out clause in case of injury.

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        • CaptainJudge99

          2 years ago

          @gfan- still waiting for you to switch teams. I won’t hold my breath.

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        • grandsalametime

          2 years ago

          The fact that it has taken this deal so long to go through is a very good indication that things aren’t going well for Carlos Correa. And if the Mets decide to step away from this thing, I would expect the Giants to step in if they could.

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    • rondon

      2 years ago

      I don’t think “lucked out” is the term to use. It was a smart business decision by Zaidi based on a higher injury risk than he knew about before the offer was made.

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  2. This one belongs to the Reds

    2 years ago

    Unlikely they would want to based on what they discovered that made Boras take a bee line elsewhere.

    Obviously the Mets found it out too.

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  3. fred-3

    2 years ago

    Farhan will be working for Apple or Google by this time next year

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    • Holy Cow!

      2 years ago

      This is a recycled comment.

      And so is mine!

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  4. zeuz1

    2 years ago

    The Giants are better off without this headache. They will make a big run at Ohtani next offseason.

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    • Redwolves3

      2 years ago

      Absolutely no chance at Ohtani

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      • atuck_sfg

        2 years ago

        Why?

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        • Pants Rowland

          2 years ago

          Money and competence — those circumstances could change, however

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        • Samuel

          2 years ago

          atuck_sfg;

          Why?

          Because as he said – he wants to play for a winning team. If that happens in Anaheim, he’ll stay there – he likes the area and his teammates.

          The first place he’ll consider after that is San Diego, as he could still live in his current house and see the friends he’s made over the years. Petco Park is closer to his home than Dodger Stadium is. When the Padres are in a homestand he can buy a security condo a short drive from the park They crazy owner there will easily shell out $550-600m for him.

          Beyond that playing for one of the NYC teams is possible, as well as the Dodgers. All will be contenders. The Giants have lots of question marks over the next few years.

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        • Doral Silverthorn

          2 years ago

          Ohtani has already played for a perennial loser. The Giants aren’t one player away from a World Series. There is absolutely zero reason for Ohtani to end up in SF unless he like

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        • zeuz1

          2 years ago

          If Machado decides to opt out next season the Padres will definitely have a very good shot at landing Ohtani. But if Machado stays, it will be a lot harder. They also have to think about what they’re going to do with Juan Soto.

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        • Samuel

          2 years ago

          zeuz1;

          Soto isn’t a FA until the end of the 2024 season.

          They don’t have to think about what to do with him until the end of the 2023 season – and who knows what their roster will like like a year from now. With large spending MLB teams that’s in the distant future.

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        • ARC 2

          2 years ago

          Ohtani will be picking which team he goes to with the largest contract ever. Whatever team it is it better be built for the playoffs in 2024 because Ohtani can go wherever he wants to go .

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        • zeuz1

          2 years ago

          Samuel…can you imagine a Padres team with Machado, Ohtani, Tatis, Soto, and Bogaerts?

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        • zeuz1

          2 years ago

          Serious modern day Murderers Row!

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        • Giant Willy

          2 years ago

          @hall the Giants aren’t ‘perennial losers’. They haven’t had a losing season, in literally years now and are only 1 year removed from having the best record in all of MLB.

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        • 27champyankees

          2 years ago

          @FireFrahan FACT: The San Francisco Giants have only had ONE Winning season above .500 since 2016

          Regardless of whether you like it or not, That is a flat out losing Culture.

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        • Gogiantspadressuck

          2 years ago

          Yankees haven’t won a World Series since 2009 lol this clown

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        • JoeBrady

          2 years ago

          “That is a flat out losing Culture.”

          “Yankees haven’t won a World Series since 2009 lol this clown”

          =========================

          The Red Sox haven’t won since 2018, haven’t been to the ALCS since 201, have 4 WSC this century, and some fans want to burn the place down. You guys are slackers.

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        • CleaverGreene

          2 years ago

          Met fans say they only want one championship and they’ll be happy. hahaha they lie!

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        • Tdat1979

          2 years ago

          Angels are a winning team – sometimes. They just happen to lose more than they win.

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      • zeuz1

        2 years ago

        You may be right but Zaidi will sure try (if he’s still there).

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        • rememberthecoop

          2 years ago

          IF he’s still here is a valid comment because isn’t this believed to be the final year on his deal?

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      • zeuz1

        2 years ago

        Any team that flexes their wallet to the tune of 400 million has a chance my friend.

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        • Pants Rowland

          2 years ago

          I can certainly agree with that ~

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        • Pants Rowland

          2 years ago

          I wish billionaire Jerry Reinsdorf would flex his wallet

          He needed the jaws of life just to pry out the money for the Benintendi contract

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        • tedtheodorelogan

          2 years ago

          Add 100-150 million and you can come to the bargaining table.

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        • kingbum

          2 years ago

          Exactly why Ohtani isn’t going to be in San Diego….Steve Cohen is going to give him a blank check and say whatever you want, make it good NY needs ya…. He’s going to be a Met….

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    • tedtheodorelogan

      2 years ago

      And come up short, like they always do.

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    • Giant Willy

      2 years ago

      You mean a big run at Ohtani again. Ohtani already spurned Farhan and Kapler. If they’re still running the team next offseason, we’ll have no chance at Ohtani

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      • giacgara

        2 years ago

        Neither Kapler nor Zaidi were with the Giants when Ohtani chose the Angels over the Giants and others.

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        • agnes gooch

          2 years ago

          giagara—thank you

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      • williemaysfield

        2 years ago

        NL didn’t have the dh which Ohtani was previously available

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      • Jean Matrac

        2 years ago

        #FireFarhan, You make it sound like it was between the Angels and the Giants. Every team in baseball wanted Ohtani. Given his situation every single team in MLB could afford to sign him. So the reality is Ohtani spurned 29 other teams, he didn’t single out the Giants for rejection as you imply.

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  5. Never Remember

    2 years ago

    The Giants will be lucky to finish 4th.

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  6. Redwolves3

    2 years ago

    Only way to pursue Correa is by the Giants terms. 5 years, $175M, opt outs after years 2 and 3, and plays 3B. Take it or leave it.

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    • 27champyankees

      2 years ago

      @Redwolves 5/175 Giants terms would render Zaidi and the Giants Losers once again when Friedman and Cash came in at 5/ 200

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    • rememberthecoop

      2 years ago

      He’s gonna play 3B for the Mets anyway. But we all knew Correa wasn’t taking another short-term deal this offseason. Even after the issue with his medicals came up Red.

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  7. rhandome

    2 years ago

    I think we’re all just waiting for some actual news at this point. Until Correa signs with the Mets, or that deal falls through and he starts taking bids from other teams, there’s just not much to say

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    • In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani

      2 years ago

      Still, he is the third biggest free agent from this offseason’s class. Any kind of speculation on him is big.

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  8. Milwaukee-2208

    2 years ago

    This Correa saga is getting old

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    • This one belongs to the Reds

      2 years ago

      I think the shop has sailed at this point. I think both sides are waiting for the other to blink.

      Wait til February.

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      • Pants Rowland

        2 years ago

        I agree, but which one?

        The good shop lollipop or the little shop of horrors?

        🙂

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        • Paleobros

          2 years ago

          Maybe Boras should ship him around a little more

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        • Pants Rowland

          2 years ago

          Boras whipping Correa into ship-shop ~

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        • goob

          2 years ago

          Boras holding forth on the poop deck.

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      • rememberthecoop

        2 years ago

        Or the lawyers could be busy at work drawing up language to protect the Mets. That’s what I’m thinking This One.

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        • CleaverGreene

          2 years ago

          Getting language to protect the Mets and satisfy the MLBPA that it is not a non-guaranteed contract is the huge hurdle..

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    • CaptainJudge99

      2 years ago

      The Giants should count their lucky stars they we’re able to get out of this Correa deal.

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  9. fre5hwind

    2 years ago

    Farhan likely to continue dumpster diving until we hit a jackpot.

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    • Giant Willy

      2 years ago

      The farm seems to be our best hope

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  10. Fooque2

    2 years ago

    Carlos can work at Burger King

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    • rememberthecoop

      2 years ago

      White Castle pays better cuz they’re union workers Foo.

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      • Ben Saturn

        2 years ago

        White Castle flagged something in his physical.

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      • Fooque2

        2 years ago

        If you are a gynecologist and a trans woman comes into your office, are you now a proctologist?

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  11. Yankee Clipper

    2 years ago

    “Soooo, you’re telling me there’s a chance!”

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    • FSF

      2 years ago

      In all seriousness, I’m sure if Correa was available for like a 6/180-200 type of situation, the Giants might consider it and almost certainly would be interested in a deal of much shorter length.

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      • rememberthecoop

        2 years ago

        If that was the case FSF, many teams would be lined up for piece of that.

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      2 years ago

      Which part of “unlikely” was not clear?

      Happy New Year, Clip!

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      • Yankee Clipper

        2 years ago

        You too, YBC!

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  12. Pants Rowland

    2 years ago

    time to cue up Yakety Sax

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    • whyhayzee

      2 years ago

      Are they signing Boots Randolph?

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      • Pants Rowland

        2 years ago

        they might as well considering their seemingly never-ending lame attempt at damage control

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    • Holy Cow!

      2 years ago

      Who gets to goose the nubile young lady, Carlos or Boras?

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      • Pants Rowland

        2 years ago

        Boras = Benny

        … bunch of dirty old men 🙂

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  13. Old York

    2 years ago

    Correa still not signed? Which team is he signing with now?

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    • acmeants

      2 years ago

      Good question…

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  14. 10centBeerNight

    2 years ago

    omg can NYM just sign him to stop this? Ponderous

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      2 years ago

      They will. I don’t think they can fully back out even if they wanted to. For better or worse, they’re stuck.

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      • JoeBrady

        2 years ago

        If they were legally committed, there wouldn’t be any negotiations going on.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          2 years ago

          They may be committed to the total dollar amount and not the exact years, opt outs…etc.

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        • Jean Matrac

          2 years ago

          There’s no commitment. Every agreement is official pending the results of the physical. A bad physical and the team can back out without obligation. The O’s did that a couple times. They aren’t stuck, but obviously still want to sign him with some protection from health issues.

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  15. 27champyankees

    2 years ago

    When the Giants hired Zaidi in 2018 they thought they were getting the guy that was gonna turn them into The Dodgers 2.0 ……instead they got a risk averse Nerd who going into his 5TH season has only posted a winning record one time. Instead of becoming the Dodgers 2.0 , Zaidi’s turned the San Francisco Giants, a once proud franchise into a Laughingstock. A boring , mediocre, cheap team that looks more and more like the Oakland A’s than the Los Angeles Dodgers

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    • Holy Cow!

      2 years ago

      Another recycled comment.

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      • Troutahni

        2 years ago

        Isn’t Holy Cow a recycled name from the Scooter?

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        • Holy Cow!

          2 years ago

          I think you have that backwards.

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    • rhandome

      2 years ago

      Low-info nonsense. The farm was barren when he arrived, and it’s now stocked with promising talent, despite Farhan buying at the deadline in 2021, because, oh right, they were one of the best teams in baseball and won the division.

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      • william032

        2 years ago

        farm system wasn’t barren. 5 of the top 10 prospects going into 2022 were signed under Bobby Evans. same number as the dodgers.

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        • agnes gooch

          2 years ago

          william032—the farm was bare when Zaidi took over, what player from the Giants farm from Sabean/Evans era had made a big impact on the major league club since like 2012? Not much in 10 years.

          Yes Sabean hit the jackpot with Bumgarner, Cain, Lincecum, Posey, Crawford, Belt, etc but for years and years before that not much and years and years since. The only players from the previous regime to make it was Bryan Reynolds and Adam Duvall, both traded.

          Yes a few left from the Sabean/Evans time are finally making it now—Doval and Slater. Sabean and Evans had buried Rogers, it was Zaidi who unearthed him from the system and gave him a chance. But really, for 10 years the farm didn’t produce much. Zaidi’s picks are on the brink of coming up in 23 and 24

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        • Jean Matrac

          2 years ago

          william032, Well barren is the wrong word. People use barren when really every team has some good prospects, so no team’s farm is ever barren. What they really mean is lack of depth. That was the case of the Giant’s farm when FZ took over at the end of 2018, It was ranked 24th. The number of 100 prospects is irrelevant to how good the farm actually is

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        • william032

          2 years ago

          luciano, matos, ramos. could be impact players. caleb barangerand conner mennez pitched well in their brief stints. logan webb is pretty good, joey bart, sean hjelle, keaton winn, david villar, have the chance to contribute this year in the majors. all bobby evans picks/signings. clay heyley, ryan walker, matt frisbee, sean roby, seth corry, john gavin, bryce johnson, frankie tostado, connor nurse could make the jump in the next couple of years.

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        • Jean Matrac

          2 years ago

          william032, Listing a bunch of players, and stating what their potential is proves nothing, no matter who the Gm/PBO was when they were acquired. The bottom line is the Giants farm system is in much better shape now than when Zaidi took over. And also, the general consensus is most of the talent is in the lower levels of the minors; Zaidi acquisitions.

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        • william032

          2 years ago

          having 2 years picking in the top 10 will give you a better shot to improve the system a lot. How is saying the system is better now than before different from the “potential” i’ve said those players have.

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        • Jean Matrac

          2 years ago

          I admit that I can’t say that I know first hand that the farm is better under Zaidi than Evans. I leave that to organizations that study every team’s minor leagues.

          Based on scouting reports, every prospect has a future value number (FV), that’s based on scores for every one of a players tools. They’re graded for speed, arm. hitting, etc. for position players, and pitchers are graded for the quality of their pitches, and things like command and control.

          MLB.com, Fangraphs, Bleacher Report, etc. do a numerical tally of every team’s minor league player’s FV. Based on the results, the systems are ranked.

          This isn’t greatly nuanced. There may be some movement in the scouting reports, but it mostly comes down to hard numbers. It is one aspect of baseball that most fans accept as fairly accurate. And it remains fact that the Giant’s system had a very low rank when Zaidi took over, and under his direction, that ranking has greatly improved.

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      • william032

        2 years ago

        also Austin Slater ,Villar, Doval, Webb, Hjelle, Ramos, Winn, Cruz , Luciano, Matos, Rodriguez, rogers are all on the 40 man.

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    • Troutahni

      2 years ago

      Say whatever you will about Zahidi, the Giants are very far from resembling the Oakland A’s who have already dumped most of their quality veteran talent.
      I’m not A Giants fan, but they didn’t do too bad this off season. They did sign some quality free agents this off-season.

      I also think that the Giants know something about the future of Carlos Rodon. Why didn’t they make a competitive offer for him? Unless, it was already predetermined that likelihood of signing him was close to nil,since there were rumors outgoing from the Rodon camp that he preferred an East Coast team, especially the Yankees.
      I think Rodon is super excited to be pitching for the Yanks. I heard him talk more in his first Yankee press conference than I’ve heard him speak in all the years he has been in baseball combined.
      I could see Giants fans being pissed about Rodon, but it’s not like the Giants drafted him.
      If the Giants weren’t so risk-averse they wouldn’t of put an opt-out clause in Rodon’s free agent contract.

      I guess you’re right. The Giants may be too risk-averse, but they really hit the Non-Correa signing correctly.

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      • rhandome

        2 years ago

        To be honest, I do wish they had offered Rodon 7 years and beat the Yankees offer. Then again, in this offseason where teams are just sloshing money around, no one else wanted to go higher than the Yanks, either. GMs are just scared of giving pitchers long term deals, I guess. One ligament snaps and they’re out 2 seasons, and maybe ruined forever. Look at Strasburg.

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    • Giant Willy

      2 years ago

      27chumpy while I largely agree with you about Farhan, I will point out that the Giants haven’t had a losing season in literally years now, and are only 1 season removed from having the best record in all of MLB. Before backsliding significantly.

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      • 27champyankees

        2 years ago

        #FireFarhan The San Francisco Giants have only posted 1 winning season above .500 since 2016

        As a franchise , That is institutionally Terrible.

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    • Jean Matrac

      2 years ago

      What a silly, overly simplistic comparison. Friedman inherited a team that won 94 games the year before. Zaidi inherited a team that won 73. Until last season the Giant’s winning percentage went up every year since Zaidi took over.

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  16. JayRyder

    2 years ago

    Boras looks worse and worse by the Day. I knew it was fishy on his part. And I didn’t fully believe that Farhan and the Giants had botched as big as they Did. The media went full Frenzy. Radio, the whole nine. Bunch of Fools. Hyping headlines instead of asking questions of maybe this maybe that. Also, Farhan looks like a good man, Not going full tilt against Boras and still working his job.

    – Wins mean Everything. Year in and Year out. Playoffs a bigger goal. WS Rings the biggest. As long as the Giants can get to the playoffs and possibly final 4. A ring is within view. They still have a ways to go. But I am Definitely giving Farhan and Kapler a chance for a few more seasons. Then we’ll go from There.

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    • Giant Willy

      2 years ago

      Farhan and Kapler disrespecting the best SS in franchise history, Brandon Crawford, by itself is enough for us Giants fans to not want them affiliated with our team. Kapler thinking the most important part of his job is to be loudly political doesn’t help the team to win, in any way and probably contributes to flailing, failing Farhan not being able to secure one single big name free agent. It’s free agent repellent. But that’s how Farhan wants the team ran.
      Not me. I want the team ran like a winning team, that’s focused on baseball.

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      • DarkSide830

        2 years ago

        The mistake was extending Crawford off a fluky season.

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    • agnes gooch

      2 years ago

      JayRyder—thank you for a realistic comment instead of the hyperbolic uniformed mean spirited comments so many spit out here and on social media.
      Farhan is a good man. It took Brian Sabean 13 years to win it all, Farhan has been there only 4 years with a pandemic and a lock out.
      I hope they extend Zaidi for 10 more years!

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  17. VonPurpleHayes

    2 years ago

    I cannot wait to see how the SF fans react Correa. That’s assuming any SF fans feel like showing up this season, and also assuming Correa won’t be on the IL.

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    • rhandome

      2 years ago

      Depends on who he’s playing for, lol

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      • VonPurpleHayes

        2 years ago

        I think it’s the Mets for sure. Whether they live to regret it or not will be interesting.

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  18. Rsox

    2 years ago

    If I’m the Giants the only way i “circle back” to Correa is if its on a 4 year $140 million dollar deal and roll the dice that Correa’s ankle isn’t an issue over that time period. If the Mets deal falls apart there will not be anymore offers of at least 10 years as by now the whole league shares the same concerns over Correa’s ankle

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  19. Citizen1

    2 years ago

    Why blame the giants? It’s always deal pending a physical. 95%is ok. This time not so much.

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  20. braves66

    2 years ago

    Lucked out on medical…

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  21. jacl

    2 years ago

    I wouldn’t give any player a contract longer than seven years no matter who it is.

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    • williemaysfield

      2 years ago

      Then you won’t be contending in mlb. Almost every playoff team has at least one long term contract.

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  22. stymeedone

    2 years ago

    This will all come down to when Correa and Boras decide to deal with the reality of the physical. Until then, we all continue to wait.

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  23. Giant Willy

    2 years ago

    Give it up Farhan. The majority of us Giants fans have wised up to your shtick. You’re trying to save face, but it’s falling largely on deaf ears. The only way you can save face, or your job, is by results on the field. At this point most of us are grateful it’s your last season under contract with our team.

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    • agnes gooch

      2 years ago

      #FF- it’s too bad you live with so much hatred in your heart. Zaidi is an intelligent and thoughtful man, a thousand times more kind than you. Listen to him sometime. Your comments are so mean. Would you say that to his face? I doubt it. Think before you write such mean things. It’s so not necessary

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      • Giant Willy

        2 years ago

        Agnes gooch – Actually anyone who knows me knows I’m one of the kindest hearted people you’ll ever meet. Certainly I would say that to his face. You’re entitled to your opinion and that’s ok, but there’s no reason to resort to making things up, to try to personally insult complete strangers, just for having a different opinion. That’s mean hearted, the opposite of kind. It’s not very intelligent or necessary to do so. So I’m going to take the high road and not engage in such hateful, spiteful vitriol.

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  24. TrillionaireTeamOperator

    2 years ago

    We’re not hearing any news about Correa because there is no news about Correa. They’re at a stalemate. He wants his $300M+ over 10+ years and I am guessing nobody wants to do anywhere near that. I am sure the Mets would do 3 years/$111M or possibly 4 years/$150M tomorrow, straight up, but Correa knows he won’t live up to even that deal, so he wants his 10+ year/$300M+ deal because if he doesn’t get that he won’t match that enough to keep getting multiple shorter term contracts to reach that dollar amount goal.

    Every once in a while we hear about a player who’s positioned themselves to get a pretty substantial free agency deal and maybe it’s being projected at like 5 years/$70M or something and then they settle for like 3 years/$19.5M because reality sets in and they take the best real deal they can get and it’s pretty clear Correa is that type- at his level- but he hasn’t accepted reality and refuses to accept reality

    His 12-13 years/$333M type projected/reported deals are gonna wind up being 3 years/$100M of 4 years/$130M or something and he can’t accept that reality.

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      2 years ago

      …gonna wind up being 3 years/$100M of 4 years/$130M or something and he can’t accept that reality.

      *************

      Gonna end up sorely wrong, my friend.

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      • TrillionaireTeamOperator

        2 years ago

        Man you hate me lol

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        • YankeesBleacherCreature

          2 years ago

          Lol I don’t. Your posts are hard to miss. We all armchair GM but you’re often in leftfield with your predictions/projections ignoring a team’s contextual makeup. A player is worth what the market will bear. All owners (with the exception of maybe Steve Cohen) want to continually profit so why do some sign these players to massive deals???

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        • TrillionaireTeamOperator

          2 years ago

          Like I’m over or under what you believe the market is?

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        • YankeesBleacherCreature

          2 years ago

          Like when you proposed Judge signing a front-loaded, three-year deal with two additional three-year club options. Who in their right mind would agree to that?

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        • TrillionaireTeamOperator

          2 years ago

          He had a bounce back year. His situation changed. I do think there are some players who want super long term deals because of the financial guarantees and they aren’t a smart long term investment but they’re worth top dollar for at least a few years.

          I really like the Dodgers’ approach of 2-5 years at a higher AAV for a lot of valuable players with longevity questions or concerns.

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        • JoeBrady

          2 years ago

          Like I’m over or under what you believe the market is?
          ======================
          I’d like to hear the number as well. If someone tells me I’m wrong, that statement should usually be followed by “because….” or “I think the correct number should be …….”

          A simple “you’re wrong” is a weak response. Nothing personal.

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        • YankeesBleacherCreature

          2 years ago

          How has his situation changed? You posted that right before or during the Winter Meetings. The concept is surplus value upfront and deficit in the end years so it evens out. Just bc you say it isn’t smart doesn’t make it so bc these mega-deals keep happening.

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  25. foppert

    2 years ago

    Smartest man in the room.
    Nice work to this point, Giants. Not perfect, but good enough under trying circumstances.

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    • grandsalametime

      2 years ago

      It really was. The media “reaction” (which was all a rush to judgment) looks so bad in the wake of what’s happened. And the fact the Mets still haven’t signed him really doesn’t look good for Correa unless someone steps in and gives him everything he wants. Wouldn’t surprise me if someone did, but at the same time they’d be stupid to bend to Boras’ wishes and overpay to do it. I suspect we’ll see more work by the Giants as the season goes on. I wouldn’t say Farhan looks like a genius but the Giants were a hell of a lot smarter than the pundits and many fans in the Bay Area and here gave them credit for. I’m glad the Giants aren’t the ones who got saddled with that 13 year contract.

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  26. bubba3b

    2 years ago

    for a while now, i’ve seen farhan being blamed for either deal that would’ve cost over $300 million for either player. i could be wrong, but the ownership group is the only entity that’s gonna give the ‘go’ sign to pursue face-of-the-franchise talent and sign said talent to $35-40 million a.a.v. over 10+ years.

    besides, correa’s ‘issue’ is something us giants’ fans have dealt with all too recently. in 2011, gerald posey (that’s buster to you) didn’t just lose the year when he broke his ankle and tore ligaments. we found out at his retirement farewell about a year ago that his injury lingered for around ten years to the point that every day, hours before gametime, he would be extra early working with trainers and staff on his leg ‘day-in’ and ‘day-out’ just to be able to strap the gear on. so buster, now a minority owner of the giants, surely spoke from experience on what a broken ankle and ligament damage can do to your career (and is the financial cost plus length of contractual commitment for correa worth it).

    guess we wait for next winters’ meeting and see if the giants’ front office decides to break the bank for ohtani.

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      2 years ago

      Let’s not discount the two diagnosed concussions Posey had and a narrowly missing a third one off a foul tip.

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  27. dpsmith22

    2 years ago

    A playoff team? In that division? Talk about a guy blowing smoke. Not gonna happen. Congratulations San Fran, your the first large market victim of an unfair system, that normally leans your way.

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  28. grandsalametime

    2 years ago

    Interesting paragraph I just saw in a story on MLB.com with the precise reason the contract isn’t settled:

    “This isn’t just a one-year contract for Correa; if it were, there probably wouldn’t be any issue. This is a 12-year commitment, and the Mets need to be confident that he’ll remain reasonably healthy through the life of it. If they have reason to believe Correa’s ankle injury could affect him five or six years down the line, then that’s a big deal.”

    People need to remember that. But it also seems to indicate (and I have nothing to base it on) that the “issue” holding this up is a little more serious than we’re hearing. Twelve years IS a long time. And if something is keeping the Mets from finishing this up, it’s either the injury OR the fact (which was reported earlier) that Correa had no interest in renegotiating, which sounds like a Boras thing.

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