Right-hander Chris Clarke is officially once again part of the Cubs organization, as the Mariners returned the Rule 5 Draft selection to Chicago. (Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune was among those to report the news.)
The Mariners took Clarke with the 22nd pick of last December’s R5, taking the opportunity to get a closer look at the 24-year-old in action. Clarke was a fourth-round draft choice for the Cubs in 2019, and the 6’7″ USC product had posted some solid strikeout rates and very impressive walk rates over 196 2/3 career innings in the minors.
Those numbers came with a modest 4.26 ERA, however, though some bad batted-ball luck was partially to blame. Clarke is more of a grounder specialist, and thus his 58% groundball rate in 96 2/3 Double-A innings last season would’ve likely led to better results had Clarke not been hampered by a large .375 BABIP.
As per the regulations of the Rule 5 Draft, Clarke would’ve had to remain on Seattle’s active roster for the entire season in order for the team to fully assume his rights from the Cubs. Even with Clarke’s potential, it seemed unlikely that he would’ve made the jump from Double-A to the majors and won a job in a pretty loaded Mariners relief corps. Seattle had one of baseball’s better bullpens in 2022, leaving Clarke will little margin for error just in breaking camp with the team, let alone sticking with the M’s throughout the year.
The weak management of today. Just bite the bullet and carry your rule 5 guy. Then you have an extra player in the system. It’s only one year
If it were me I’d have one rule 5 bullpen guy every year and keep stocking up
Massive amounts of minor league contracts. GMs today are way too passive about everything
Minor league contracts are the entire foundation of success
Rule 5 picks must be carried on your active roster for a year. They can’t just be stashed in the minors.
I think he meant that the Mariners should just keep the guy on their major league roster this year. And if he is still underperforming next year, they could stash him in the minors until he’s ready to contribute at the major league level.
@angry…of course….that’s what I said. Learn to read. It’s only one year that you have to carry them. It’s unbelievable the casuals here who think they always have to display the knowledge they believe they have…I said “it’s only one year”
You just stash them for the year and then you have somebody with options
Which legit RPs should Seattle have purged to create space?
Camden, I understood you, but you could have been a bit more clear.
Not sure who you think Seattle should leave off the roster to hold onto a player that is easily replaced by someone in our minors in a year or two. We have a great group of young arms in the system.
It was a bit odd for them to take a pitcher I am sure they thought maybe he could take a big step he didn’t make. They have had a few R5 successes but many sent back. Probably the same as any team.
@tim, a good GM would make sure the last two guys out of the bullpen had options. One of those gets optioned down and the rule 5 guy stays
Camden- No, It’s your ridiculous use of the the word ” Stash”, That’s getting you into trouble. Maybe you should look it up in the dictionary. When you stash someone it implies you keep them without using them. You want them to stash him on the active roster? How’s that even going to work? Bullpen spots are way too valuable to ” Stash” Anybody. You’re the fool who doesn’t know anything and is talking out his A**.
@thono, I go on the presumption people know how rule 5 works
I don’t know how “it’s only one year” can be any more clear
You just have tons of casuals that are leaping to “teach” someone how rule 5 works, as if it’s some sort of complicated, expert knowledge
They see something about rule 5 and instantly they’re itching to point out their expertise in how rule 5 works
Camden- I’m positive you don’t understand anything. The guy has to STAY ON THE BIG LEAGUE ROSTER ALL YEAR. You can’t send him back to the minors WITHOUT offering him back to his original team. Stop pretending you know what you’re talking about when you obviously don’t.
@Unclean
Here’s a case in point of the casuals on this site
All he sees is “rule 5” and instantly he has to leap in to teach how rule 5 works and how I’m so unintelligent for not knowing
I played OOTP for 15 years. Often I drafted and carried rule 5 picks on the roster. Then stashed them at AAA. I did it all the time. You can easily stockpile them at AAA. It doesn’t matter their ERA. They’re just getting light mop up work
This is why teaching the mentally ill is a forbidding job. It deserves the utmost respect for the patience it takes to explain something so basically simple to someone who will never get it, No matter how hard you try. Then explain this: Then why would they return him to the Cubs when as you say they could keep him? That ought to be simple enough for even the tree in my front yard to understand.
Simple Answer: BECAUSE THEY CAN’T. The End. Have a nice day.
No need to apologize to Camden. He’s definitely one of the bigger idiots on this site. And he’s pretty rude most times, so feel free to crap all over his idiotic nonsense.
Cam – Stop! Your original point was poor and overly simplified. And its sad when Uncle Mike is clearly more correct than you. Just stop posting nonsense and give up. The hole is only going to get deeper.
Nice hammering Roy. Hammer that tool.
It would have been extremely stupid to carry this guy all season when we’re trying to compete for the playoffs. He’s not good enough to justify choosing over the 10-15 better relievers. Berroa would have made more sense to keep on the roster than Clarke, who is a dime-a-dozen reliever.
@myaccoint, not really because basically you’re carrying a depth piece. Guys get injured. You’re never going to have the same guys out of camp
Makes sense to keep the rule 5 guy
If he has good stuff but has command and control problems, so what, just leave him there the whole year
@myaccount, Brennan Bernadino, a 31 year old journeyman minor leaguer is on the 40-man
So no, any young rule 5 pitcher that they’ve evaluated has good stuff is way better than that
And like I said, you just bite the bullet, yes for the entire year, and have him do mop-up work. He won’t be any worse than Bernadino
Young pitching wins. Not aged minor league vets
True, but Clarke hasn’t pitched above Double-A and the Mariners already have a good bullpen, so there was really no room to put him, especially on a team with playoff aspirations.
Right just carry a player for a year that you don’t intend to use.
Waste your resources and potentially stunt his development.
Brilliant.
Well, the Mariners probably determined this particular Rule 5 guy did not have the upside they were looking for. Or, at least enough likelihood of an upside worth justifying occupying a space on the 26 man roster for the entire season.
Even if carrying this player would have resulted in only one loss over the entire season, that might result in missing the playoffs.
So let me get this straight, the guy who said the Mariners, a team with legitimate playoff aspirations, should “just stash him” on their 26 active roster attempted to belittle another poster?
I agree with the other guy. Your 26 man roster is too precious to have a guy that isn’t contributing. Expesially with today’s rules on the number of pitchers allowed on it. If you’re trying to compete, you can’t have it. If you’re in the asset accumulation mode, then by all means have 2 or 3.
A rule 5 guy is not going to be much worse than the last guy on the depth chart in your bullpen
If you are a rebuilding team you should always try to stock up rule 5 picks
I would have kept Clarke for a year over Trevor Gott.
@Jung, exactly. The GMs are afraid to carry rule 5 guys and face the heat that you’re going to get for it
You just use the guy for mop up innings and then you have 6 years of control and 3 options
The entire point of Rule 5 is to keep teams from stacking up too many MLB ready players in the minors. That’s why they have to stay on the MLB roster all year. It’s not a way to just pluck any random MiLB player from another team.
But the vast majority of rule 5 picks never pan out. For every Garrett Whitlock, there are 10 Chris Clarke’s.
@remember, yeah but after the year, you now have a guy with 3 options and six years of team control
Every year you keep stockpiling a rule 5 guy. Which means eventually season after season you always have 3 guys with options
Young, optionable relievers are a huge commodity. The rule 5 is a gold mine of optionable young pitching if you just bite the bullet and keep him for a year
Luis Ugueto waves hello.
Mariners bullpen is stacked. Clarke wasn’t gonna make it in unless he turned into prime Mariano overnight.
But it’s only one year
Bernardino has 2 option years remaining and won’t make the 26, so what’s your point? It’s a good thing it’s not up to you like you said in your original post because you have no idea how to manage a roster lol
Well, after playing OOTP for 15 years, running thousands of simulations I can assure you I know more than the GMs how to manage it
And it’s not just OOTP, it’s just having a more advanced and efficient mind
Most of the people in the industry are average intellectually, or they’re just the ones who decided to pursue a career in baseball
Most of them are not necessarily good at evaluating players
It’s mainly people good at small talk who can socialize. For the most part they are very bad at evaluating players
It’s obvious just from the moves they make and players they draft that almost all of them have no idea what they’re doing
And yes a computer flight simulation can teach you how to fly. So can a baseball simulation
Oh, okay, you’re trolling. I get it now.
As someone who’s played OOTP even longer than you have, surely you don’t think the trade and free agent engines are reflective of real life. Or maybe you do and you simply didn’t play OOTP 23 (given that a baby could tell someone how inaccurate those engines were, I’d assume you were capable of recognizing it, too… but maybe not). Luckily, it appears 24 is better.
@mysccounts, no I never really traded with the AI. Obviously those are a joke
And yeah, with free agents, sure, you can swipe up all the best minor league free agents easily. That’s not realistic. There’s battle over the better minor league contracts in real life
But the reason I was able to win multiple championships and have long dynasties in online leagues against human GMs, is basically minor league contracts that other GMs thought didn’t matter
Not being lazy about depth, managing promotions better, analyzing data better, etc
I know which stats win. Other GMs didn’t really get it. I can easily win in online leagues pretty much all the time
What is OOTP ???
Camden – Did you just compare playing a video game to real life management of a MLB roster???? That alone loses all credibility to anything you say because you are obviously delusional. Just so you lnow…VIDEO GAMES ARE NOT REAL!!!
No GM is going to sacrifice a roster spot for an entire season to someone who has no business being there. It hamstrings the manager. Not to mention, it leaves a deserving player putting useless innings on his arm in the minors instead of contributing to the major league club. All to keep a guy who may not pan out. Idiotic times 10!!!
Yes bleed that’s a common reply everyone thinks is clever and makes them look more popular
Yes, just as you can learn how to fly from a flight simulator, you can also learn how to GM from a computer simulation
There are also many other types of simulations. One could even argue that you sort of understand how government works from playing Civ 3
Absolutely, by playing OOTP a lot, you will understand baseball better
A lot of the knowledge I have about what wins in baseball and how waiver wire works, rule 5, etc, comes from playing OOTP so much
It really is simple. Just load up on 1.24 WHIP and below pitchers and you will have a good pitching staff. You can easily apply that in a real world setting
For example the reason Gott of the Mariners is a better option is historically lower WHIP
Know-it-alls like Keith Law hate WHIP but that is just because of their poor instincts
WHIP is rhe god of pitching metrics
Camden, Normally when someone realizes they are always getting told what they say is wrong by many people they consider they may be wrong. Instead saying you have superior intellect and stupid people are trying to take you down is a sign pf mental issues.
It is a baseball video game.
How does saying simulators are not real make me popular? It is just fact. That is why they call it a SIMULATOR.
They may start pilots in a simulator but they have to learn to fly real planes to get their license don’t they? They don’t just step out of the simulator and hand them their wings.
If this baseball simulator was so realistoc why don’t they use it to train real GM’s?
Do the world a favor. Next time your mom comes down to the basement to bring you pizza rolls ask her to setup an appointment with a psychiatrist to get help.
They should. The GMs should be running OOTP simulations
Running 1000 seasons of simulations will teach them how better to do it
Most guys have 5 real seasons to figure it out. Its not enough
But it’s not just the experience. If the mind of the GM can’t evaluate anything well, it’s never going to work
At first I thought you playing crazy. Now I realize you’re not playing.
Then go ahead and apply to be a GM. They will laugh at you as everyone on this boatd is laughing at you.
Agree completely. However he said he has played the game for 15 years which would put him in adulthood. That is even more sad. He can’t be a productive member of society doing 1000 sims over that time.
From the way he talks he probably thinks he’s too smart to work for anyone.
@bleed, well, I could get on Twitter, build a prospect guru account and be hired by a major league organization
It’s not hard but I have greater challenges to attend to
@bleed yes I am too smart to work for someone. When you are much smarter than the executives running the company, it is not possible to work for them
As a general rule people will target threats to their status
1.24 WHIP, is that at the MLB level, or minors, or both combined?
OOTP is some fantasy game where Captain Underwear builds dynasties.
@thono, thank you, yes. I literally said “it’s only one year”, obviously that means you keep him on the roster for the year
Mind-boggling how 8 casuals have liked angel’s reply thinking once again they possess superior knowledge that they have to show off
Of course you have to keep rule 5 guys on the roster for a year
The endless amount of casuals here and all they do is try and point out how much they believe they know more than you
The sign of someone that doesn’t really know anything is that they are always trying to point out how much they know more than someone else
contending teams with filled out bullpens, especially ones with say four or more guys who cant be sent to the minor leagues, realistically cant be expected to carry a RV guy for a whole season. it is worth bringing a guy into camp and seeing what he can do, but the marines would
@pohle, no because a good GM would have an optionable reliever or two as the last two guys in the bullpen
You keep the rule 5 pick and you option one of the two guys at the bottom of the depth chart up and down for injuries
They’re not going to be that much better than the rule 5 guy
In theory, this is a good idea, but I’m not sure it’s practical year to year. Some years you’re contending and cannot afford to hold a roster spot for a, maybe fringe, player all season long.
Also, injuries occur and trades/acquisitions, which require a lot of management of rosters and players options as well as doing what’s right for the player. It’s an incredibly difficult balancing act which GMs don’t get enough credit for.
Always holding a roster spot for a rule five player might not sit well with the rest of the team (players and couches) especially if they’re contending and they’re better options at AA or AAA.
If you’re able to pull it off, great! But I wouldn’t sacrifice a roster spot for a player who is very questionable at the MLB level.
In addition, using a player for mopping up innings is also great in theory, but not practical. If we continually insert a rule 5 player into games at the MLB level and they continually get rocked by MLB hitters, this can destroy a players confidence. Young players need the ability of being brought up to the MLB level for a few games or a few weeks then send him back down for continued development. GM a MLB team is truly a huge challenge for even the best managers.
@chinatown, my position is that it’s always better to have a young rule 5 pick on the roster than fringe AAAA minor league vets that are older
Ride the young velo, young stuff…It’s better to have
Getting a 21 year old pitcher and sticking him on the roster is better than an old minor league vet
You can add a 21 year old middle tier pitching prospect to the roster or an aging 31 year old minor league vet that would just get lit up anyway
It’s a no brainer. You just endure the rule 5 guy on the roster for the year and then you have 6 years of the 21 year old
You’re adding young pitching prospects without having to draft them
contending teams with filled out bullpens, especially ones with say four or more guys who cant be sent to the minor leagues, realistically cant be expected to carry a RV guy for a whole season. it is worth bringing a guy into camp and seeing what he can do, but the mariners would have kept him if the dropoff wasnt that great between him and their established options
Maybe you should acknowledge how confusing your original post was. It’s difficult to understand what you were saying and you mentioned minor leagues twice.
Isn’t everyone not on the staff a casual?
@cards, I don’t know how “just bite the bullet and carry the guy” “it’s only a year” can be any less clear
But I guess discrete math and calculus can be confusing to people
Do you get that it isn’t me, but the reading comprehension of people?
Most people are average or lower IQ, so the idea “everyone is saying it” doesn’t hold
Come on. It’s just that tons of casuals are jumping at the opportunity to show how much they know about how the rule 5 works
Stop constantly trying to show off superior knowledge. The people who actually have superior knowledge are not constantly trying to prove how much they know all the time
Literally 98% of the site is casual fans trying to prove violently how much they all know more than everyone else
The issue has less to do with people understanding or not understanding the rule 5 rules and more to do with stupid roster construction.
If you think the team would be better off keeping a lesser player this year in order to have control of that lesser player for 6 more years that is your opinion.
A majority of knowledgeable fans would say that is a good strategy for a non-contending team. However, the Mariners – right or wrong – believe they are a championship caliber team.
If that is the case then you keep the best players, period.
Now is not the time for them to invest in fringe players that might or might not pan out on a major league roster.
How it could be less clear? See you screwed up again LOL
@nick, oh yada yada yada. I saw that mistake, I just didn’t bother correcting it. It’s a typo error
Probably because your opinion makes no sense logically from the Mariners standpoint. You’re pounding the table for a mediocre arm who wasn’t even impressive in camp and suggesting he wouldn’t be much worse than our last guy in the pen, which is likely far from the truth, considering our bullpen is our biggest strength and features 6 guys who had sub-3 ERAs as relievers.
Well, most rule 5 options are going to be better than Brennan Bernadino . Because it’s young pitching
If you evaluate players properly, you have access to tons of young pitchers that are going to be better than old minor league vets
But they’re too lazy and they’re too afraid of the pressure of keeping a rule 5 pick on the roster
Phillies built a great bullpen doing what I’m talking about. Finding guys with great stuff but struggle with command. Any good stuff/poor command rule 5 pitcher is better than Bernadino and other soft tossing minor league vets that’ll get lit up
Comparing a rule 5 pick to Bernardino is irrelevant because Bernardino isn’t part of the season-long core or outlook. The only time he’s on the roster is for IL replacement. The pen is obviously solidified with Munoz, Sewald, Castillo, Brash, Flexen, Murfee, Festa, and Gott (then Topa and Bernardino). But why would you want to replace one of the first 8? Hint: you don’t. Also, Clarke is not good.
I don’t know if Clarke has a future with the Cubs, As the Cubs have more impressive talent on the way. he was once a top 30 prospect in the organization who has been passed by better talent in the last 2 years. I’m sure if Seattle really wants him in the minors, a Minor League deal can be worked out and the Cubs will give him a chance to play somewhere else where he can be happier. Call Jed and Carter.
UncleMike above and the 9 likes to angry’s post is my whole point about this site
It’s always funny when the hordes of causals come out to show how much they know about how the rule 5 draft works
As if it was some deep, expert knowledge
There was nothing wrong with the wording of my original post
They didn’t bother to read it because they’re instantly leaping to the keyboards to point out the rule 5 rules and do what they think is showing off their superior knowledge
Get a grip. Stop trying to point out how much more you think you know than everyone else. At least read a post before leaping to conclusions
You could be the first person I ever ” Mute” On this site. You’re obvious idiocy is becoming quite overwhelming. I’m appalled at the Educational system in this country. It’s very sad. When even Clepto who’s a real treasure is right then you know you must be a true moron. I usually try to get along , But in your case, I’ll just give up and move on. You’re bad for everyone else’s mental health.
Mike, you are the guy who is lower IQ, ok. I have a 180 genius IQ
I used to teach philosophy of logic, digital logic, c programming. 4.0 GPA
I now translate ancient greek, Pali, and Sanskrit texts
You (and many others) are the unfit, below average minds that can’t really grasp what’s happening
I am constantly in battle with you all because you always target and harass the better minds
You’re all like the trolls and reply guys on Twitter who are harassing and menacing the popular Twitter accounts
Yes, almost everyone flips out on my posts and calls them stupid, but that’s only because my posts are smarter and unusual. The instincts of common and below average minds is to attack the excellent minds
The average and lower IQs will always come out in violent opposition to the higher IQ people
Well I’m a NASA rocket scientist and Astronaut. I’ve been on top secret missions that landed on Mars and Venus, But keep that under your hat. I’ve managed 2 World Series Teams to Championships ( While wearing disguise) And have been both a GM and President for Major League Teams that shall remain nameless. I have a 185 IQ and teach 5 supposedly dead languages that I have figured out myself. So your phony bloated achievements pale in comparison. What a Maroon.
Mike, the thing is, every time there is a post about the rule 5 draft here there are about 15 people, like you, that are analyzing and probing that post to see if the person knows the rule 5 rules
Then there are the reply guys who can’t resist pointing out how the rule 5 works, even if there is nothing in the original post that shows any misunderstanding about how it works
Casuals like you do that because they want to show off what they believe is their superior knowledge
No, you’re not some expert because you know how the rule 5 works. It’s basic knowledge
Watch baseball more to try and get a deeper understanding, Mike. But the thing is, some people can study baseball all their lives and still really not “get it”
They still cannot evaluate very well, and you are like that. Most people are going to be the ones who really can’t evaluate
If someone has poor instincts they will perceive what is actually poor as what is valuable
You may (or may not be) a genius in your own mind, but in this discussion you come off like an idiot.
If you are so smart (you are not) and you hate everyone on here so much… then why comment? Just stop. Let us just be without you. Everyone (including you) will be happier. So just stop.
Hey Einstein, some more Rule 5 articles today for you to weigh in on with your genius input..maybe you should take a look
Ahhh, nothing like intelligent baseball discussions on this site! Thanks for reminding me why I rarely visit the comments section anymore. Does that make me a “casual”? Lol
I just casually muted some lnow it all guy from Baltimore who, doesn’t know a damn thing about what he claims he does. Good lord.
They should’ve picked Cam Sanders. 29 teams going to be wondering how they missed that guy.
Sanders could have held his own as the mop up guy in a lot of MLB bullpens. He will probably start riding the Iowa Shuttle after the All Star Break.
I doubt that he will help or hurt being return to the Chicago Cubs Since the Cubs will be 90 plus lost team this year.
A few years fans here In Chicago had them matching the same success that the Atlanta Braves have enjoy for past 10 plus years
As a proud Chicago resident for past 60 plus years. I told Cubs fan to put down the Cubs Kool aid.
Obviously. a White Sux fan jealous of being the forgotten baseball team in Chicago. The Cubs didn’t lose 90 games last year and they have made big improvements. The Whote Sux were a 500 team last year and did nothing substantial this off season. You should be worried about the Sux. Chicago’s favorite team by far, the Cubs will be just fone.
I get it. You came here to show us you’re smarter than the guys being paid millions to make these decisions based on your vast fantasy experience. You then became offended we misunderstood your confusing post. You then started spitting the word casuals like it’s venom. It’s not. It’s amusing and ironic in the overall context.
@cards, no I don’t, I just come here and express my evaluations
But every post I make, because I’m higher intelligence, is attacked on instinct by lower intelligence people
Im forced, constantly, to defend myself from a mob who are doing nothing but trying to prove their intellectual superiority over someone they sense on instinct is smarter than they are
It doesn’t matter what I say. The mob comes out to prove they’re superior anyway
Even if it was generally agreed on, they’d still find a reason to argue with it
Yet you lead with “The weak management of today. ”
I think everyone else sees what happened on this thread.
@cards, it *is* weak…they’re passive…they’re afraid to carry rule 5 guys…they don’t really pursue or care about minor league contracts
You could rework the Pirates in a single offseason with minor league contracts, trades, waiver wire guys, rule 5
Considering most of the GMs are terrible, I could easily make the Pirates into a wild card team in one offseason…and they would all think they’re fleecing me…meanwhile, I’m getting the players they don’t know are the better players
In one draft I could have most of the top prospects, because they don’t know what the good prospects are
Where’s the wow guy because this is just wow. I’m going to go now.
I understood the initial post, the idea just isn’t practical in the real world. Clark was a guy the Cubs didn’t want to protect from Rule 5. Would you want the Cardinals to “stash” him on the 26-man this year? And eat a 40-man spot? How long are you stuck with the guy on your 40 before you outright him.
@m’s Most people don’t know what they’re doing. As one mob together, they will often on instinct attack the one guy who does know what’s going on. They sense this just instinctively that they are supposed to level and “dumb down” this one guy, in this case me, who understands more about it
It’s like the old saying, “the confederacy of dunces is always in opposition” to the smarter people
MOST people will, on blind instinct, target and try to dumb down higher IQ people they encounter
I do not like to point out I’m a genius or how much more intelligent I am, but I have to. I’m met with violent opposition from the mob on every single post I make
It is just a natural instinct they all have . It doesn’t matter the post. Less intelligent people will target and try to prove their intellectual superiority over the more intelligent people
EVERY post I make, no matter what it is, people attack
I can, in a single offseason, turn the Pirates into a playoff contender just through shrewd trades and
targeting the players nobody knows are any good
And I’d get canned, I’d be called names, but it would start to win. Could literally make the Pirates a +80 win team with strategic pick ups
I’m assuming Camden453 is a trolll account.
In case it’s not, Camden453, you really don’t know what you’re talking about. Especially with the M’s, who will have 4 or 5 relievers stuck in the minors this year who are more able to contribute to the team’s 2023 playoff aspirations than Clarke.
Book, if Brennan Bernadino, Saucedo, and Speier are on the 40 man roster and not a young rule 5 prospect, it’s poor managing
You should always have one spot for a rule 5 pitching prospect. If they’re loaded with prospects they can add to the roster at some point in the season, then just waive the rule 5 guy. Literally no reason to have those three guys instead of a rule 5 guy
I agree with this post. However, this post disconnects from your original argument of holding on to a rule 5 for the entire season no matter what.
Of course, have a rule 5 on to start the season (if you have the room and the right rule 5 player), then waive them if need be.
But holding on to a rule 5 player all season long, regardless of what’s best for the team, is poor management.
China I’m just saying if you are loaded with young prospects, you’re in a pennant race, sure, you could waive the rule 5 guy at that point if you needed a better option
If you need to field the best team possible, and you have multiple prospects, there’s less need to carry the rule 5 guy for depth
But ideally you should keep the rule 5 guy the whole year and get another young depth piece in the system
Depth wins ultimately
Young velo, young life on the pitches, is better than Tyler Sauced, Speier, and Bernadino. They’re older and have lost the life on the pitches and velo
A rule 5 selection still has all the velo and stuff. It is way, way better than an aging vet
This was my whole point. The cowardice of GMs to go with with the experienced vet that is safer but not as good as a young prospect can be
It’s an epidemic where they’re too afraid to go with something without experience
Under my system you have 3 young rule 5 guys on the roster or you have Saucedo, Speier, Bernadino that are older and guaranteed to get lit up
It’s pretty clear the way to go here. Target young rule 5 guys with high velo/good stuff with command problems
But I don’t think fear is a main factor for most GMs. Rather, keep the young talent down in AA until they’re ready or needed at MLB. In AA ball, the players get more playing time and more individual focused development. They wouldn’t get nearly as much in MLB.
Seattle has enough relief depth to form a second bullpen.
This wasn’t about what Clarke did, they liked him. They simply could give him a roster spot with so many other established options.
They don’t have room for a lefty right now.
That obviously should have read ‘couldn’t give him a roster spot…’ and ‘They don’t even have room for a lefty right now’.
Seattle’s pitching depth is arguably the best they’ve ever had, That’s the clear strength of the team..
Stevil what established options? The sixth, seventh , and eighth options, in this case Gott, Festa, and Flexen, one of them should have options if you are managing the roster competently
You would then option one of them, probably Flexen, down, and have Clarke in there
Ideally the back three should all have options, which would enable you to carry Clarke
This is something the Mets *finally* realized. They made a specific point to target guys with options this year
It’s very simple to carry a rule 5 pick if you manage it properly
I was wondering why so many commented on a simple Rule 5 player return.
Then I saw it was one person making delusional comments and intelligent people trying to reason with him.
Some people just can’t grasp reality.
Bleedinblue- That horse left the barn, Passed go, Collected 200 bucks, And bought a ticket to Crazy town. Begs the old question, If you think you’re the only sane man alive, Does that make you crazy? In this guys case, The answer is Yes. My favorite part might of been when he said he could fix the Pirates. From where, His couch? This is what happens when kids don’t actually go outside and play baseball and instead sit around their living rooms playing video games they think are real.
Agreed. But since he has been doing 1000 sims over the past 15 years he is an adult that is not a productive member of society. Probably thinks he is too smart to work for anyone or actually working in the real world will shatter his illution of his superior intellect.
No, as always they targeted a totally harmless post of mine to make themselves look superior
Happens all the time
Every time someone makes a post about the rule 5 draft 98% of the site is itching to show that person how they understand the rule 5 draft rules
So think about that. 18 people liked a post with literally no knowledge of the situation, without reading the post, just because one guy was pointing out the rule 5 rules
I was wondering the same thing when I saw the replies when I first stopped by to read the comments.
Carlos Correa signing rumor threads were smaller than this one.
Just about the time Captain video game was providing his resume, he made made these comments.
“Stop constantly trying to show off superior knowledge. The people who actually have superior knowledge are not constantly trying to prove how much they know all the time”
“The sign of someone that doesn’t really know anything is that they are always trying to point out how much they know more than someone else”
I can see the comments where he tells us that he’s smarter than every GM. I can see the comments where he tells everyone in the site that he’s smarter than they are… Why does he make these claims…? Because he plays video games in his undies.
Another comment stuck out to me, the one about GMs having their jobs because they can socialize. That certainly is part of it and the reason Captain Underwear has played so many video sims, you’ll never get it hold any job if you can’t get along with people.
The GM job isn’t about evaluating talent. That is what a scout does. A GM manages the field side of an organization, the coaches, players, scouts, analytics team, payroll, admin, negotiations… And develops/maintains relationships throughout baseball, something you could NEVER do.
Also, Captain Underwear, just because you’ve gone through “thousands” of sims and played video games against other gamers doesn’t mean you can evaluate baseball talent. It just means you’re socially awkward and that is how you build personal value.
It was a given that Clark wasn’t going to make the team. The M’s didn’t want to leave a stone unturned by picking him Alternatively someone with a good bat but then how likely would that have been? An after thought probably.
I love your faith that they actually gave it a thought.