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Tigers Notes: Skubal, Manning, Turnbull, Carpenter

By Nick Deeds | May 27, 2023 at 8:40am CDT

Evan Petzold of the Detroit Free Press discusses a litany of Tigers injury updates yesterday evening, with news regarding left-hander Tarik Skubal chief among them.

Skubal, 26, underwent surgery on his flexor tendon back in August, but is making steady progress on his rehab. About a month after throwing off a mound for the first time since the surgery, Skubal has taken the next step and begun to face live hitters. Petzold notes that Skubal threw 20-25 pitches and faced Andy Ibanez, Jonathan Schoop, and Nick Maton in the live session. Schoop noted to Petzold that Skubal’s fastball was touching 98, a phenomenal sign for the young left-hander’s progress.

A ninth-round pick by the Tigers in the 2018 draft, Skubal quickly ascended prospect rankings, becoming a consensus top-25 prospect in the game ahead of the 2021 season after making a brief MLB debut during the shortened 2020 season. In 2021, Skubal was given the keys to a spot in the starting rotation, and the results were decent but uninspiring. Skubal posted a roughly league average 4.34 ERA in 149 1/3 innings, but a 5.09 FIP indicates that performance may not have been entirely earned. Skubal’s 25.9% strikeout rate and 7.4% walk rate were both solid marks, but his overall production was hampered considerably by a massive 20.5% of his fly balls leaving the yard for home runs.

Fortunately, Skubal managed to turn a corner in 2022. The young lefty was a revelation with the Tigers last season, a rare bright spot in an otherwise dismal season in Detroit. Skubal posted a solid 3.52 ERA, 10% better than league average by measure of ERA+, and paired that with an excellent 2.96 FIP as he maintained his quality strikeout and walk numbers from the previous season while managing to drastically reduce the quality of contact he was allowing. In 2021, Skubal’s 13.9% barrel rate was the worst figure in baseball (min. 140 IP). That figure dropped all the way to 5.5% in 2022, however, good for the 78th percentile in the league, per Statcast. Skubal’s 2022 breakout campaign was, of course, cut short by the aforementioned surgery in August, which limited him to just 117 2/3 innings.

Looking ahead, Skubal figures to provide a huge boost to the Detroit rotation both this season and for the foreseeable future upon his return, assuming he’s able to maintain his 2022 breakout when he returns to the mound. No concrete details on Skubal’s timeline for return are available, though he seems to be ahead of right-hander Matt Manning, who Petzold notes threw off a mound Tuesday for the first time since suffering a fractured foot last month. While Manning initially hoped that he would be able to return to action after six weeks, that timeline was quickly taken off the table when the righty was transferred to the 60-day IL at the end of April. Manning will throw a second bullpen session today but, per Petzold, remains limited to an anti-gravity treadmill for his current running program.

All this suggests the club’s first-round pick in the 2016 draft is still a while away from a return to game action. In 12 starts last season, Manning impressed with a 3.43 ERA and 3.78 FIP in 63 innings of work that earned him a rotation spot on Opening Day this season. In two starts prior to his injury this season, however, Manning struggled badly, allowing a whopping four home runs in just 11 2/3 innings of work. Still, the talented youngster figures to be of great importance to the Tigers going forward, once he’s returned to full health.

Elsewhere among the club’s rotation options, right-hander Spencer Turnbull remains shut down after being placed on the injured list with neck discomfort earlier this month, though a recent MRI revealed the healing process is progressing well so far. Petzold notes that the current plan regarding Turnbull, who struggled to a 7.26 ERA in 31 innings of work this season prior to his placement on the IL, is for the 30-year-old righty to undergo an additional MRI in two weeks. If Turnbull’s neck ailment has cleared up, he’ll likely begin a throwing program at that point. Turnbull, of course, missed most of the 2021 campaign and all of 2022 while undergoing and rehabbing from Tommy John surgery.

Rounding out the injury updates is outfielder Kerry Carpenter, who landed on the IL with a shoulder strain last month, began a rehab assignment in Triple-A yesterday. Carpenter impressed with the club in his major league debut down the stretch last season, and his quality performance largely carried over to 2023 prior to his injury. While the 25-year-old Carpenter still has just 188 big league plate appearances under his belt in his career, his slash line of .238/.298/.477 with ten home runs and nine doubles leaves plenty of optimism that Carpenter can contribute to a scuffling Tigers offense upon his return to the big league club.

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  1. Ejemp2006

    2 years ago

    Tigers are surprising us, again. However, it would be nice if one or two of these not-so-young anymore guys could come back and pitch well enough to be moved at the deadline.
    We need tomorrow arms and future bats because today is hurricane, batten the hatches and keep rebuilding again time.

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    • For Love of the Game

      2 years ago

      Don’t sell low on Skubal, Manning, and Mize – build on them.

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      • DCartrow

        2 years ago

        Don’t sell Zach short either.

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    • Motor City Beach Bum

      2 years ago

      I would be pissed if they traded Skubal. That is a guy to build around. No rebuild needed here, just consistent player development from here on out with a sprinkle of additions through free agency and finding hidden gems, which Harris is good at. I’m a believer! Go Tigers!

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    • stymeedone

      2 years ago

      Considering the division, now is not the time to trade the best players but to add to them. The division is there for the taking. Try to rework Eduardo’s contract. This off season is the time to sign some hitting!
      Maybe they could resign Candelario, so they actually have a 3B who can hit some.

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  2. TroyVan

    2 years ago

    Kerry Carpenter was 0-3 with 3 strikeouts last night for Toledo. Hopefully, he gets his stuff together soon.

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    • For Love of the Game

      2 years ago

      He will. Getting back to live pitching in game conditions has to be hard. I’ve seen others struggle to do it. He’ll get his swing back in time. Tigers could certainly use his power.

      I also noticed Ryan Kreidler came back to either Lakeland or West Michigan.

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      • TroyVan

        2 years ago

        He is in West Michigan. 3 for 4 last night.

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    • detroitdave84

      2 years ago

      He’s the guy that allows them to cut Ibanez or Schoop

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  3. AverageCommenter

    2 years ago

    That sucks for Manning, he just has to use the alien technology instead of normal running

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  4. Motor City Beach Bum

    2 years ago

    If we can stay close to Minnesota and we get Skubal back soon this could get interesting. Wentz needs to go town and fix some things (I still have hope for him though). Erod, Faedo, Boyd and Lorenzen is an okay top four, but Skubal could upgrade that significantly. The bullpen is pretty solid overall. You don’t start a rebuild at 3 games under.500 and a couple games out of first. Carpenter will be an offensive upgrade over Ibanez and hopefully soak up the bulk of the DH at bats. Baez, Baddoo, McKinistry, Tork, Vierling and Greene have been decent to good. If Maton, Rogers and Haase could rediscover their MOJO that would be great. If the Tigers keep it close with Minnesota, maybe Scott Harris looks at a small upgrade that doesn’t mortgage the future at the deadline. I am surprised (and pleased) by how well they are doing. Harris made some good calls this offseason.

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    • stymeedone

      2 years ago

      Maton, Ibanez, and Rogers all need to be sent down. They are stuck with Miggy for this year, but one sub .200 hitter is enough of a handicap. If Maton, and Ibanez can only hit .160 from their strong side, maybe they are not the answer. Rogers is great defensively, but Harris forgot to add depth at C in case he didn’t hit. Does Hinch have to platoon Everyone?! Hard to believe McKinstry couldn’t do better than a .160 average against same handed pitchers. Foe all the talk about adding depth, Harris has hit with McKinstry and not much else. Harold, Willi, and Candelario would all be welcome additions, if he hadn’t let them go for nothing!

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      • Curaclees

        2 years ago

        2 days ago when last checked Rogers had a 0.6 WAR which was like top 4 for Tigers position players. Not bad for your backup catcher. Sure his avg sucks and K rate is awful but still sluggs it when he does hit, and his defense has been very very very excellent. Tigers need a left handed hitting infielder still. McKinstry been great but Maton is struggling

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    • The Saber-toothed Superfife

      2 years ago

      Rah rah…..how much does that dude pay you?

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      • Motor City Beach Bum

        2 years ago

        Not really sure why you hate him after half a season? Give the guy a chance and be happy we are this close to being .500!

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        • The Saber-toothed Superfife

          2 years ago

          Who said anything about hating the guy? Geez…rah rah rah…..

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        • The Saber-toothed Superfife

          2 years ago

          And I was considering you for Press Agent….but ,geez, you’re defensive and seem to need to interpret what people say rather.just accepting what.they said as what.they meant……..
          I speak English very well, and do not need a translator.

          Who was.the guy going to have pitch after he trades 2 or 3 of.them?
          I see no one waiting for the.chance……bummer….he should have asked Boras who was available already. Boras and company are Detroits’ best scout team.
          Utilze.the agents play.them like a fiddle

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  5. GarryHarris

    2 years ago

    I think that even if the Tigers were atop the division by the trade deadline, ERod will still be traded.

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    • Motor City Beach Bum

      2 years ago

      I agree. It just makes sense to trade him at his peak value and continue building for the future. If they can do it while still remaining competitive that would be good (I.e get a young player to fill a hole now on offense). Skubal and Manning are back this year and Mize is back next year as a replacement.

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  6. GarryHarris

    2 years ago

    I’m also not convinced Matt Manning should be in the rotation.

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  7. wileycoyote56

    2 years ago

    If you want to have success throwing live BP, they picked the best group to pitch to. Combined OPS of .800 lol! One should be DFA’d and other 2 in Toledo

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  8. Red Wings

    2 years ago

    Willi hit a home run today, starting to hit for the Twins

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    • Red Wings

      2 years ago

      Actually just hit his second today

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  9. The Saber-toothed Superfife

    2 years ago

    The schedule favors.the Tigers through.the AS break, then things get a little tougher. Just think if there had been a serious effort….. sweeping Texas would really mean something.

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