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Pete Alonso Looking To Surpass Recent Deals For Top First Basemen

By Darragh McDonald | November 17, 2023 at 2:51pm CDT

The relationship between the Mets and Pete Alonso has a ticking clock on it, with the slugging first baseman now less than a year away from free agency. There have been plenty of rumors about the possibilities of a trade or an extension, though neither has come to fruition thus far. This week, Jeff Passan of ESPN reported that Alonso’s requests in extension talks have surpassed the recent contracts for other first basemen from recent years. Meanwhile, Jesse Rogers of ESPN reports that the Cubs continue to have interest and would be willing to make Christopher Morel part of the return package.

Alonso’s appeal is obvious as he has been one of the best power bats in the majors since his 2019 debut. He has hit between 37 and 53 home runs in each full season of his career and 16 more in the shortened 2020 campaign. His 192 long balls since the start of 2019 are easily the most in baseball, with Matt Olson second at 177. Overall, Alonso has hit .251/.342/.528 for a wRC+ of 133. Reviews on his glovework are mixed, with Ultimate Zone Rating and Outs Above Average considering him to be subpar, though Defensive Runs Saved disagrees. Regardless, his bat is potent enough that he’s plenty valuable even without strong work in the field.

That Alonso is looking to get a contract “much bigger” than the top first base contracts of recent years, per Passan, is fairly logical given his output. The last decade saw some mammoth deals for first basemen but recent years have seen a softening. Miguel Cabrera got an extension of $248MM from the Tigers, topping the $240MM and $214MM earned by free agents Albert Pujols and Prince Fielder, respectively. But that Cabrera deal was in 2014, whereas the latter two deals were going into 2012.

Since that time, the two biggest guarantees for first basemen went to Olson and Freddie Freeman. Olson signed an eight-year, $168MM extension with Atlanta when he was still two years away from free agency. Back in February, MLBTR’s Anthony Franco took a look at Alonso as an extension candidate and noted the similarities between them at the time. But since then, Alonso has moved one year closer to the open market. MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz projects him to get a salary of $22MM in his final arbitration season. Players generally increase their earning power as they move closer to free agency, which give Alonso an argument for going past Olson at this point.

Freeman got his six-year, $162MM deal on the open market, but going into his age-32 season. He can’t match Alonso’s power but has generally had better batting averages and on-base percentages, in addition to a stronger defensive reputation. But Alonso is slated to reach free agency ahead of his age-30 campaign, making him two years younger than when Freeman went to the Dodgers.

All this suggests Alonso and agent Scott Boras are setting their sights on something in the $200MM range. It’s unclear if the Mets have any interest in meeting that asking price but it also doesn’t appear they are being pushed into a trade. President of baseball operations David Stearns has said multiple times that he expects Alonso to be the club’s Opening Day first baseman next year. “I don’t draw lines in the sand,” Stearns said last week. “And I’m never gonna say never. But I absolutely think it’s fair that I don’t anticipate him being traded.”

If the Mets were to consider a trade, the Cubs continue to have interest, per Rogers. The two clubs reportedly discussed Alonso at the deadline last year and the Cubs still don’t have an obvious solution at first base. Matt Mervis continued to hit well in Triple-A, slashing .282/.399/.533 this year, but his first 99 plate appearances in the majors led to a line of just .167/.242/.289. The Cubs could give him another shot but they may prefer a more established player like Alonso.

It was recently reported that Morel is getting some work at first base in winter ball, which gives them another option there, but a trade of Morel also seems to be on the table. He has struck out at a 31.6% clip in his first 854 plate appearances but the power is real, launching 42 home runs in that time. The problem is defense, with Morel generally considered not a great fit for shortstop, third base or the outfield. Moving to first might be a decent compromise, but it would be a waste of his strong throwing arm, which Statcast places in the 99th percentile.

Morel has posted decent results at second base but the Cubs have a middle infield of Dansby Swanson and Nico Hoerner. Hoyer recently stated that “another team might be able to put him” at second, which perhaps suggests Morel is more valuable to the Cubs as a trade chip than anything else and this report from Rogers suggests that may indeed be their thinking.

The Mets have Jeff McNeil as their most likely option at the keystone, though he’s also capable of playing third base or an outfield corner, so perhaps they would have some interest in Morel. Giving up on a fan favorite like Alonso would be a tough pill to swallow but Morel is cheaper, having not yet reached arbitration, and still has five years of club control. It would leave the club with a hole at first base though they could perhaps try Mark Vientos there or acquire a cheap free agent stopgap. Prospect Ryan Clifford, acquired in the Justin Verlander trade, could be a future option at that spot but he’s yet to crack Double-A. Putting Morel at second could block Ronny Mauricio but he didn’t hit the ground running in his first major league action and could also move over to third base and battle Brett Baty for playing time. Luisangel Acuña, acquired in the Max Scherzer trade, could be an option at the keystone in the future but has yet to reach Triple-A to this point.

All this is speculative and there’s still nothing to suggest the Mets like Morel or even want to move Alonso. But they will likely have to make some kind of decision at some point. If they don’t trade Alonso now or at the 2024 trade deadline, they would be left to make him a qualifying offer at season’s end and collect a compensation pick. But since they are likely to pay the luxury tax yet again, that pick would be between the fourth and fifth round of the draft, surely far less appealing than whatever they could get in a trade. But with Steve Cohen’s unprecedented spending in recent years, it also wouldn’t be a shock to see Alonso locked up for an extended stay in Queens.

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  1. sacrifice

    2 years ago

    Big Pete needs to stay in NY

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    • Subatomicbunt

      2 years ago

      Big Pete needs to take the bull by the horns and shave his head. I speak from experience.

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      • thecrown24

        2 years ago

        @Subatomicbunt I love the Bucky Majors profile pic Lmaoo

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        • Subatomicbunt

          2 years ago

          youtu.be/o9Xyf5XUcdQ?feature=shared

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        • thecrown24

          2 years ago

          I always liked Bucky but man Was Mickey Kaline a hell of a ball player!! A standup guy also I might add.

          youtu.be/dml9ueM4I0s?si=8nqVgUa8hSV2M8tv

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        • Subatomicbunt

          2 years ago

          Hahaha It has been a long time since I’ve seen “Hey Arnold!” They don’t make cartoons like they used to!!

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        • thecrown24

          2 years ago

          So true!! They don’t make them like they used to. Rocko’s Modern Life was my personal fav cartoon of all time.

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  2. just_thinkin

    2 years ago

    A contract filled with regret, this will be, by somebody.

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    • User 401527550

      2 years ago

      He literally is the most prolific homerun hitter in baseball history over his first five years. His contract will play out better then most.

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      • ALou

        2 years ago

        Seriously??

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      • christopher8002

        2 years ago

        Ryan Howard was also once, too.

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        • just_thinkin

          2 years ago

          Chris Davis was too.

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        • AgeeHarrelsonJones

          2 years ago

          Not even close. Chris Davis averaged 15.2 HR In his first 5 seasons

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        • AgeeHarrelsonJones

          2 years ago

          Good comp. Howard averaged slightly more HR/AB in his first 5 full seasons.

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      • amk1920

        2 years ago

        Won’t hurt the Mets with Cohen’s money but his contract would be a disaster for other teams. He will never carry your offense despite the good HR rate

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        • YankeesBleacherCreature

          2 years ago

          Then what’s the point of hitting homeruns?

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        • Roll

          2 years ago

          @YBC

          “Then what’s the point of hitting homeruns?”

          I dunno ask Barry Bonds he may or may not have hit a couple of hrs …. you should see all the bling bling rings he rocking from them world series wins.

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        • avenger65

          2 years ago

          Roll: Put Alonso on PEDs and he’ll hit as many HRs as Bonds.

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      • Fire Krall

        2 years ago

        Metssux6986..You have a Kiner on line 1 and Pujols on line 2.
        217 career BA=Joke

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        • User 401527550

          2 years ago

          Who has a career .217 batting average?

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        • Ma4170

          2 years ago

          Who has a .217 career BA?

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      • VonPurpleHayes

        2 years ago

        We saw this movie multiple times with first basemen. Ryan Howard is the best example.

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        • User 401527550

          2 years ago

          Jim Thome is the best example.

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        • DonOsbourne

          2 years ago

          Chris Davis is the best example. The Mets should either trade him or let the contract expire, offer the QO, and recoup the pick. First base only, one trick pony hitters, are not worth long term, big money investment.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          2 years ago

          Thome hit more for average than Alonso ever will, but you still make a good point about the positive side of Alonso’s potential. Quite frankly, if Cohen doesn’t care about dead money, just sign Alonso. His prime years will be worth it. He may deteriorate fast, he may not.

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        • AgeeHarrelsonJones

          2 years ago

          Alonso’s first 5 years are closer to Howard’s than Thome’s. Thome blossomed later in his career and the length of his career is highly unusual. A black swan.

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        • raisinsss

          2 years ago

          Eat fresh.

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        • DonOsbourne

          2 years ago

          Howard blossomed late in his career. Thome was pretty good from day one.

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        • DugoutJester

          2 years ago

          Lmaooo Chris Davis is the best example? Man you are seriously out of touch.

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        • User 401527550

          2 years ago

          And Ryan Howard’s career diminished from a torn ACL. Stuff like that is unpredictable.

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        • DonOsbourne

          2 years ago

          @Jester

          Chris Davis was 1B only defender whose entire value was derived from a singular skill.

          Pete Alonso is a 1B only defender whose entire value is derived from a singular skill.

          What am I missing?

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        • carlos15

          2 years ago

          That makes no sense. Howard was a star from his rookie year, ROY followed by a 50 homer season. Howard deteriorated later in his career.

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        • DonOsbourne

          2 years ago

          But he was 25 by the time he reached the Majors. Thome reached the majors at 20.

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        • User 401527550

          2 years ago

          All these examples of players who were really good and had major injuries. I’m not a fortune teller but do any one of us know what players will have major injuries in the future? At this point Alonso has only had a minor injury from getting hit in the hand by a pitch and has been really durable otherwise.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          2 years ago

          The ACL had a huge impact, but so did the shift.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          2 years ago

          Howard’s numbers declined a bit before the ACL injury. The shift was killing him. The ACL tear really made the numbers nosedive, but too many fans forget the drastic shifts teams used against him and how effective they were.

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        • DugoutJester

          2 years ago

          Alonso has almost doubled Davis’s WAR in 5 seasons compared to his 13 yr career. They are not the same.

          In fact, Davis only had 5 out of 13 seasons with a positive WAR.

          Howard imo is a better example.

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        • AgeeHarrelsonJones

          2 years ago

          Lol. Data don’t lie

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        • AgeeHarrelsonJones

          2 years ago

          Lol. Data don’t lie. Look at the homers in years 1-5

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        • DanzigInTheDark

          2 years ago

          Insanely reductive thinking.

          Through his age-28 season, Chris Davis had a .240 ISO while walking in 8.4% of his plate appearances and striking out in 31.4% of them. Alonso has a .277 ISO, with a 9.9% walk rate and 22.3% K rate. Davis was more of a pull hitter than Alonso is (33.4% pull rate vs. 29.9%) which pairs terribly with his higher groundball rate *and* the immense amount of shifting he saw (every year there’s date for has Davis getting shifted 90%+ of the time.)

          It’s not a guarantee that Alonso will have a different trajectory than Davis, but I’d argue that the underlying metrics show that Alonso should age a little bit more gracefully than a dead-pull hitter prone to hitting into a shift when wasn’t striking out.

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    • Subatomicbunt

      2 years ago

      Justthinkin, You quoting “Inception?”

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    • Blue Baron

      2 years ago

      @just_thinkin: Spoken like the real Yoda.

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      • Say Hey Now Kid

        2 years ago

        Fairly warned. Be thee. Says Just_Thinkin

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  3. Jake Biggar

    2 years ago

    Mets should absolutely just pay their cornerstone player. Besides Judge he’s the best power hitter in the game over the last few years. You’re the Mets. Pay your best player

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    • davidk1979

      2 years ago

      He’s not their best player Lindor is.

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      • tangerinepony

        2 years ago

        Lindor is just their most over-payed player

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        • Sourhaze

          2 years ago

          Overpaid* if youre gonna accuse a star stud player of being overpaid then please learn english

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        • Subatomicbunt

          2 years ago

          Lindor would have got 4/70 from me.

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        • davidk1979

          2 years ago

          Yeah six win player he totally sucks!

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        • Subatomicbunt

          2 years ago

          I am working with a Vegas A’s budget here gimme some slack.

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  4. Braves Butt-Head

    2 years ago

    It’s not about if Pete Alonso is better than Freddie Freeman or Matt Olson but it’s about timing, location and demand and Pete has all those in his favor given his age, his production and his location. I think he breaks the 1B record for aav and length and will be the 1st 200 million dollar 1st baseman.

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    • acoss13

      2 years ago

      I’m not going to lie, as a Cubs fan, I wouldn’t mind having the Polar Bear manning first base for the Cubs. Morel is great, but the window has opened let’s get a proven first baseman.

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      • The Kaiser

        2 years ago

        You’re not getting Alonso for Morel as your centerpiece as he is trash no position strikes out 33% of the time 240 hitter. No thanks. Stearns aint that stupid!! Maybe 2 out of your top 3 prospects and a 15-20 prospect maybe would get it done.

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        • avenger65

          2 years ago

          The Kaiser: I agree, cubs ain’t getting Alonso. But if they did, if Morel can hit 42 HRs in 854 PA, Alonso would hit at least 80 a season in that band box.

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    • LordD99

      2 years ago

      Right. What Freeman, Goldschmidt and Olson signed for in prior years is only relevant in establishing a floor for his contact. He’ll get more.

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    • rundmc1981

      2 years ago

      1st $200M 1B? What about Pujols & Fielder?

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      • LFGMets (Metsin7) #FireCarlosMendoza&DrewSmith

        2 years ago

        @runmc1981 Don’t forget Votto

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    • Jm207* 2

      2 years ago

      Pujols and Prince got more than 200. I think the market isn’t the same. DH and 1st base just isn’t as valuable as it use to be.

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    • Braves Butt-Head

      2 years ago

      Let me preference that 1st non 10 year contract 200 million dollar player he will sign for like 6 years for like 210 mil imo

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  5. Never Remember

    2 years ago

    Morel would have to be the third or fourth best player in the deal for the Mets to even consider. Pushing Morel like he is done great player is so out of touch with what even the Cubs have said about him.

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  6. This one belongs to the Reds

    2 years ago

    I wanted to be paid more than other catchers too, but the reality was a whole lot different.

    To be honest though, not sure why the Mets are playing hardball. They’re saving 80 million they don’t have to pay two 40 year old pitchers, so they shouldn’t have to, unless cash flow is unexplicably an issue.

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    • guilderc

      2 years ago

      With how much money they paid those contracts down, are they really saving $80MM?

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  7. padam

    2 years ago

    As a Mets fan, goodbye Pete. He’s whiney and has perhaps too high of an opinion of himself, which could be Boras feeding the fire. I’d take Olson or Freeman over him any day.

    As for the Cubs possibly offering Morel, that’s a hard pass. PCW has to be in any deal that involves PA. I’m sure there’s plenty of other teams that would line up to grab him.

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    • User 401527550

      2 years ago

      You are on an Island all by yourself with that take.

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      • ALou

        2 years ago

        NOT

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      • cnazimm

        2 years ago

        Pete Alonso is “Big Dumb Guy.” Have you ever listened to his interviews? “Duh, I’m a big guy, I hit ball long way.”

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        • MarlinsFanBase

          2 years ago

          @cnazimm

          Um, I didn’t realize that an athlete that can perform well has to also be a scholar. I guess you watch world champion boxing or MMA or UFC fighters’ press conferences for their discussions on the theories of relativity.

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        • cnazimm

          2 years ago

          I don’t watch any of those at all. I am sorry that it hurts you feelings that he is an ogre!

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        • MarlinsFanBase

          2 years ago

          Again, athletes are paid for their brawn, not their brains. If I want to speak to intelligent competitors in games that are considered sports, I’ll watch professional Chess. Everyone that watches baseball watches Alonso for his gift of playing at the MLB level and his ability to hit a ball harder and farther than well over 99% of all human beings. He isn’t a millionaire because of his speaking ability or intelligence.

          I’m sorry you’re feelings are hurt that a guy can actually be financially successful for doing something physical that nearly all of us, even most of his MLB peers, can’t do, instead of him being able to contribute something worthy of a Nobel Peace Prize or for the continued evolution of mankind.

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        • Slow day at work

          2 years ago

          That’s not true at all! Most MLB players are smart, catchers and pitchers in particular. But also everyday position players, they have to study film, understand how he’s being pitch, defensive alignments, fielding and base running. And they are definitely getting paid for their brains and not just brawn.

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        • MarlinsFanBase

          2 years ago

          @Slow day at work

          But are the dumb ones being paid for their brains if they are naturally great? And even the smart ones, are they being paid for how intelligent they sound in interviews?

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        • Subatomicbunt

          2 years ago

          Bucky Majors from “Rugrats.”

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        • Slow day at work

          2 years ago

          The dumb ones do not stay in the majors for a long time. Even Pete Alonso is not a dumb guy. He might be an immature idiot, but not dumb.

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        • MarlinsFanBase

          2 years ago

          Manny Ramirez and many others like him seem to have had no problem with longevity.

          Shoeless Joe would’ve stayed a complete career in MLB if his teammates didn’t get him banned with them.

          Hanley Ramirez played into his mid-30s.

          Many others who were just naturally gifted, and not really smart, were able to stick.

          I think the only one off the top of my head where stupidity was over the top and shortened his career was Yasiel Puig.

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        • Subatomicbunt

          2 years ago

          Josh Hamilton?

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        • MarlinsFanBase

          2 years ago

          I wouldn’t call Josh Hamilton stupid. That was an addiction. Pete Rose, Doc Gooden, Darryl Strawberry, Matt Harvey and many others were addictions and not so much stupidity. Even Jose Fernandez may have been an unknown drug problem that he didn’t live long enough to let it show it’s ugly head long term like these others, although his death was another case of a tragic drug-related story.

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        • Subatomicbunt

          2 years ago

          Definitely wasn’t meaning stupid. Just that he messed up his career.

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        • Pads Fans

          2 years ago

          He also graduated from the University of Florida in 3 years. LOTS of dumb guys do that.

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        • Pads Fans

          2 years ago

          cnazimm = dumb ogre
          Pete Alonso = guy that graduated college in 3 years. Smart one.

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        • MarlinsFanBase

          2 years ago

          @Subatomicbunt

          Dexter Manley, like many other college athletes that played college sports, graduated college.

          Ahem…I remember him talking something about college athletes from all sports and education. Something that we all have always known about some college athletes who were truly gifted in sports talent. I even saw it when I played Division I. Yeah, the ‘athlete is smart because he got a college degree’ statement is not the one I’d go with in this discussion.

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        • Subatomicbunt

          2 years ago

          I think the thread is getting convoluted haha Someone was talking about players that have thrown their careers away and I mentioned Josh Hamilton. I have nooo idea where all this other stuff is coming from haha I am not involved in this “stupid player” convo hah

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        • MarlinsFanBase

          2 years ago

          oops…I responded to the wrong person. I meant @Pads Fan.

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        • MarlinsFanBase

          2 years ago

          @Pad fan

          Dexter Manley, like many other college athletes that played college sports, graduated college.

          Ahem…I remember him talking something about college athletes from all sports and education. Something that we all have always known about some college athletes who were truly gifted in sports talent. I even saw it when I played Division I. Yeah, the ‘athlete is smart because he got a college degree’ statement is not the one I’d go with in this discussion.

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        • Pads Fans

          2 years ago

          Well, if D1 athletes are like you, then they certainly are dumb.

          Baseball is not football or basketball. Only a few baseball players are scholarship players, average of 4 per team on full ride, and they definitely don’t take remedial basket weaving like you obviously did.

          I seriously doubt you played D1 anything. You certainly don’t demonstrate a knowledge of baseball in your posts.

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        • MarlinsFanBase

          2 years ago

          @Pads fan

          Yeah, stats dimwits don’t know when someone demonstrates baseball knowledge because they don’t comprehend the in-game stuff because it’s different from fantasy league and video games where you all learned your baseball. You can talk analytics stats all day, but the second I want to discuss approach at the plate or routes in the OF or infield positioning, all built on in-game nuances, you’ll find your way out of that conversation like every other single stats guy. so please, you don’t want to go there so you won’t have to bail out on this part of the conversation. Or do you? I’m game either way.

          And trust me I know about the few scholarships available for full rides and that every other sport in college depend on football and basketball. But believe it when a guy is good, regardless of sport, they do get those basket-weaving with a minor in coloring books art degrees in college.

          If guys like Yasiel Puig and Manny Ramirez wanted to, they could’ve gone to Harvard and earned law degrees with special interests in Play-Doh science.

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        • Pads Fans

          2 years ago

          WRONG! As usual. Dexter Manley did not graduate college. Try Google first next time.

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        • Pads Fans

          2 years ago

          Demonstrating your remedial basket weaving education again. Thanks for proving yourself wrong.

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        • MarlinsFanBase

          2 years ago

          @Pads Fans

          OK, I was off on that fact, but he should not have been in college in the first place. And it does not change the known fact that many star athletes do get college degrees without earning them in the classroom. Clearly you’re demonstrating that you’ve never been around college sports in your life or even high school sports other than being a spectator.

          But of course, this is one of those ‘having to have played’ discussions that you clearly are not equipped for. i saw this firsthand. Do you want to continue about the knowledge here or are you still waiting for Google and analytics to help you? Can they help you discuss some in-game baseball stuff? Let’s do this or will you avoid that, like you already did?

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        • Slow day at work

          2 years ago

          @marlinsfanbase so your argument is that you are smart because you know stuff like “approach at the plate or routes in the OF or infield positioning, all built on in-game nuances”, but professional MLB players that surpass your knowledge and comprehension of these same attributes are dumb?

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        • MarlinsFanBase

          2 years ago

          @Slow day at work

          I’m not saying that I’m smart because I know that. You’re comparing apples to oranges. One argument is whether a player is dumb or not…which I’m pointing out that players are not being paid to be smart, and usually the great ones aren’t in MLB because they are smart. And the other, personal argument is someone who actually played ball speaking from that point when the person said I didn’t know baseball, but I’m making it clear that I know more than some stats dimwit dweeb who couldn’t comprehend if someone knew baseball because he doesn’t know the in-game on-the-field stuff that people get from actually playing the game instead of learning it from fantasy league and video games.

          One argument, I was actually defending the comment made about Alonso being dumb with my point that players are not paid to be scholars. And in the debate against my statement, we got into the whole question of whether players are smart, and I pointed out that many that are naturally gifted aren’t smart and just can flat out play the game. And I’m still trying to understand how a guy being able to play the game due to knowing how to play it has anything to do with the original bash of how Alonso sounds like “an ogre” in an interview. I think this argument just escalated with some contrarians that felt the need to be right.

          Now, as for the second part of me knowing that game having played it versus some stats dweeb that learned baseball on a fantasy league or MLB the Show, I will simplify that. Completely different discussion and premise. When stats boy came up stating that I didn’t know baseball, I went o where it needed to with someone making that statement while he never played the game to know how it’s played or comprehend the nuances that stats miss, and therefore is not the person to be able to make such a statement since. When he can talk good ole fashion ‘how to play the game stuff’ those words need to not leave his mouth. He needs to do like his deity Bill James and take a knee, maybe even using the same of excuse as Mr. James of “I’m not sophisticated enough in my baseball knowledge to answer such questions” or a Brian Kenny excuse of “I wasn’t big enough to play high level baseball”, which boxers always laugh when he says that because he swears he knows more about boxing than boxers too, but he’s bigger than many of the lightweight fighters, so the size excuse doesn’t fly there. But essentially, no need for someone who learned baseball on video games and fantasy leagues to say people who actually know how to play it from experience don’t know baseball. To use a metaphor (which is miraculous since that poster also took a shot at my college education), a butcher would look foolish telling a cardiological surgeon that he doesn’t know heart surgery as well as he does. That’s essentially what happened there.

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        • Deleted Userr

          2 years ago

          Jose Fernandez was a murderer.

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    • Ryanemery8

      2 years ago

      PCA? No way you get a top 15 prospect in the game for 1 year of Alonso!!!

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      • LFGMets (Metsin7) #FireCarlosMendoza&DrewSmith

        2 years ago

        @Ryanemery8 you do realize the Mets traded PCA for half a year of Javier Baez, right?

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        • MarlinsFanBase

          2 years ago

          Sorry that I have to say this, but most other teams aren’t the Mets.

          Granted, I shouldn’t talk because Mike Hill did some whoppers for the Marlins when he was with us, but not’s entirely my point.

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        • Nomah

          2 years ago

          Yes, the Mets traded PCA, who was injured and not in the Top 100 at the time.

          How exactly is that relevant?

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        • raisinsss

          2 years ago

          Bro I was only kidding about you wanting to fire Mendoza before he actually did anything, but no. It’s really happened.

          This is why I will never mute you.

          Never change.

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        • Ryanemery8

          2 years ago

          He wasn’t even a top 100 prospect at the time…he’s top 15 now!!! How can you compare the 2?????

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    • Sourhaze

      2 years ago

      Let’s get the mets most profiling power hitter off the team because some dumb fans think he’s whiney. JfC

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    • 16

      2 years ago

      PCW? Who is that? Do you mean Pete Crow-Armstrong? If so, you’re crazier than Pete is thinking he deserves $200M when he’s a one tool player. No chance you’ll get to right the wrong you made when trading for 1/2 season of Baez. Morel is even too much for a 1B that’s a 3WAR player that looks to be regressing past two years.

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      • Ma4170

        2 years ago

        Morel could never bring back alonso and shouldn’t. He leads all mlb in hr and rbi since 2019. And yes that matters a lot. And its even more impressive that he does it in a pitchers park where his OPS is 100 points lower than his road OPS.
        Hes not balanced like freeman but when you lead all baseball in those categories last 5 years and also have 250-340 career averages, you’re a top 20 mlb bat easily.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          2 years ago

          Mets will simply be trading 1 year of Alonso. So a smaller return should be expected.

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        • Ma4170

          2 years ago

          Yes but not as small as morel, thats laughable. No, they couldnt get PCA, but they could easily get a top 100 and another high upside prospect outside the top 100.
          But i think he’s worth more to them and shouldn’t move him. His babip was 205 last year… when that normalizes again, and it will, he’ll be back to 2021-22 levels.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          2 years ago

          I assume Morel would be the headliner, along with other pieces.

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    • DanzigInTheDark

      2 years ago

      the problem is Olson & Freeman aren’t available, and if you let Pete walk, who the hell is playing 1B?

      There’s really no FAs available to plug in – Cody Bellinger would probably cost similarly to what an Alonso extension would (if not more) and would be more valuable in CF than 1B. After him you’re either hoping Rhys Hoskins rebounds to a level he’s never hit at, or I dunno, kicking the tires on the Joey Vottos and Jesus Aguilars of the world.

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  8. TrillionaireTeamOperator

    2 years ago

    He should stay with the Mets. Buy out his final year of arbitration and then give him an 8 year deal with an option. So, total contract of 9 years/$290.25M guaranteed and up to 10 years/$315.25M total.

    $2.625M signing bonus, $22.625M, $30M, $32.5M, $35M, $35M, $35M, $35M, $30M, $27.5M, $5M, buyout on $30M option.

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    • Jm207* 2

      2 years ago

      That seems way too high

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      • TrillionaireTeamOperator

        2 years ago

        A lot of primarily DH guys are making up to $27M AAV nowadays and he wants to surpass them by a bit. This would accomplish that.

        If I was doing a sign and trade for him to my team? I’d give him 7 years/$185M straight up, with 1 year/$20M of that his final year of arbitration.

        Meaning I’d give him 6 years/$165M as a free agent, which is $27.5M AAV, a slight bump from that $27M I round numbered.

        I’m not crazy, but I am considering what I think the player will aim for.

        Let’s be real here- if they thought they could realistically get close to it, every player would ask for $100 million or $1 billion a season, guaranteed, in perpetuity for their entire lifetime, etc. so instead they ask for the most they think they might realistically get, hoping someone will stretch their value in order to sign them for their prime years.

        Alonso will be no different.

        If guys like Harper and Stanton are getting over $25M AAV he’s gonna aim for $27.5M to $30M or more AAV and possibly more to account for future increases in compensation for what will effectively be contemporaries.

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        • Cap & Crunch

          2 years ago

          “A lot of primarily DH guys are making up to $27M AAV nowadays and he wants to surpass them by a bit. This would accomplish that”

          Name them then .

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      • justkidding

        2 years ago

        Way Way Way too high

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      • Jonny5

        2 years ago

        That seems Willie Nelson/Snoop Dogg high.

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      • Nomah

        2 years ago

        He lived up to the screen name here!

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    • 16

      2 years ago

      lol – has to be the craziest take. You want to pay a 30yr old 1B that has one-tool and probably should be a DH >$250M????

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  9. Subatomicbunt

    2 years ago

    I feel like he is going to be penalized monetarily because he plays 1B. Is Bryce Harper making less $ because he plays 1B??

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    • rundmc1981

      2 years ago

      He didn’t sign as a 1B. Alonso would, who projects as a DH half way thru his next deal.

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      • Subatomicbunt

        2 years ago

        I honestly don’t see the difference.

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        • justkidding

          2 years ago

          Harper is a much better player

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  10. Cora the Destroya

    2 years ago

    Whatever just happened to just play and get your paycheck? I hate seeing how this generation of players wants to “surpass” other players because they want to be recognized for the best deal. I really think these pre-Madonnas pull teams down more than up, which is why small market teams have more success these days. In any case, why get so greedy?

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    • User 401527550

      2 years ago

      When I’m human history did people not try to get more for themselves and their family?

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      • Cora the Destroya

        2 years ago

        It’s fine, but the way the author worded it makes it sound ego-driven. But honestly, baseball players get paid too much. It’s the fault of those paying them though.

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        • Subatomicbunt

          2 years ago

          It sounds overwhelmingly obnoxious coming from ANY player!

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        • ImACubsFanSoWhat

          2 years ago

          Every single one of these guys are ego driven. They’re ego-driven and hyper-competitive, that’s why they’re where they are.

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        • Subatomicbunt

          2 years ago

          You might be part right. But there are also plenty of players who are so humble that they never utter a peep about such things. #Be like Mike (27).

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    • Paleobros

      2 years ago

      On one hand I agree with you. The “surpassing” other players just to have a slight record for a year or two is kind of ego-ish/corny. But on the other hand, most any of us would choose to get paid more and our jobs rather than keep the same salary, would we not?

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    • Polymath

      2 years ago

      If any player is pre-Madonna, then they are too old. But I’m sure there are some players that act like prima donnas that can play well.

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      • Cora the Destroya

        2 years ago

        Good point, I didn’t realize that was the preference for spelling it

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    • foppert1

      2 years ago

      Yeah. I’m with you. I think the competition is lame. Would much rather hear “I want to go to a place that has great people, is going to win me a World Series ring or three, and if they happen to think I’m worth more than any 1B before me, then that would be great too.”

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    • DanzigInTheDark

      2 years ago

      if you thought you were one of the best in the world at what you do, wouldn’t you want to be compensated as such?

      and a take like this also ignores the fact that setting a new benchmark helps not just you but the players coming after you – baseball players are in a union, after all, and what’s good for Pete would be good for every other player that comes after him as well.

      lastly: it’s prima donna, not pre-Madonna. not trying to invalidate your response with the typo, just letting you know for next time!

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      • Cora the Destroya

        2 years ago

        That has been corrected

        I just don’t think Pete Alonso is the best, sorry. 46 homeruns but a .217 average? I’d rather pay more for an all around hitter than someone who hits dead bombs or strikeouts. He’s asking too much of himself and needs to put the money where his mouth is if he’s talking about being the “best.”

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        • DanzigInTheDark

          2 years ago

          focusing on the batting average while ignoring his BABIP just isn’t being fair in your analysis – his BABIP this year was .205, nearly 70 points below his career line coming in to 2023. his batted-ball metrics were all in line with his previous career numbers, so it’s not like his batting average in 2023 is indicative of some sort of decline.

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        • Slow day at work

          2 years ago

          I would be more concern with his BABIP being so low with the extreme shifts banned. To me. this means that he is more concerned with how far he hits the ball rather than making good contact. For a comparison, Matt Olson raised his BABIP because he is more concerned with making solid contact and trusting that his natural power and stroke with lead to more HRs.

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  11. rememberthecoop

    2 years ago

    Cubs might get left at the altar this offseason. Seems like they’re putting their eggs in the Corbin Burnes & Alonzo baskets and neither is likely to be available. As for FA’s, all I’ve heard is Ohtani, which seems like another pipe dream. Hoyer better get more realistic or he might just become the bride of Chucky.

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    • ImACubsFanSoWhat

      2 years ago

      You should write him a letter and give him your insider feedback.

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    • Nomah

      2 years ago

      You clearly aren’t reading much if all you’ve heard is Ohtani. Lol!

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  12. LFGMets (Metsin7) #FireCarlosMendoza&DrewSmith

    2 years ago

    I’m a big Alonso fan but hes not worth more than a 5 year 150 million dollar deal. Hes ok defensivly but I don’t see him aging well. I know people don’t care at batting average but are you really going to give a guy that batted .220 200+ million dollars? I’d rather trade him and get a young firstbasemen with team control back like Kjerstad. Guys like Goldschmidt, Olson, and Freeman are all better than him offensivly and defensivly. Alonso is not prime Joey Votto or Miguel Cabrera, hes insane

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  13. CC Ryder

    2 years ago

    Maybe Mr “I’m a Polar Bear” should work on getting that batting average over .220

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    • Subatomicbunt

      2 years ago

      I think only Home Runs matter.

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      • raisinsss

        2 years ago

        #HRLivesMatter

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        • Subatomicbunt

          2 years ago

          Finally someone has the courage to say it!!

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  14. ❤️ MuteButton

    2 years ago

    There’s a lot to love about this guy’s game, but he’s a step behind Freddie Freeman, Matt Olson, Bryce Harper and maybe Paul Goldschmidt in my opinion. Still, who said contracts were fair?

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  15. Redsoxx_62

    2 years ago

    Stanton 2.0 waiting to happen

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    • mlbnyyfan

      2 years ago

      He’s not better than Olson doesn’t deserve to be highest first baseman

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  16. 10centBeerNight

    2 years ago

    Last season stats badly thrown by the period where he played hurt. He’s a great player

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  17. Tom the ray fan

    2 years ago

    3 war player looking to reset the 1b market? These guys typically don’t age well and if he looses just some pop he’s an average 1b.

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  18. James Midway

    2 years ago

    He can do the Eric Hosmer plan. Sign the big deal, stop trying, go home a rake in the millions.

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    • Subatomicbunt

      2 years ago

      Hosmer learned it from Chris Davis though..

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  19. TexasLeaguer

    2 years ago

    Mets fans trying to sour Morel’s value is hilarious. The guy was a top 100 hitter last year in 120 games. He’s under team control for 5 more years. Personally think the cubs would be dumb trading a cheap, 30 homer kid.

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    • A_Cespedes_For_The_Rest_Of_Us

      2 years ago

      I mean his production is almost entirely unsustainable w a 31% k rate and he was still significantly less valuable than Pete

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      • TexasLeaguer

        2 years ago

        Alonso strikes out 23% of his AB’s. Morel is 24 and played in his first “full” season. But yeah I’m sure an Uber talented kid can’t cut back on k’s. Give me morel for 5 cheap years over an aging Alonso who wants to reset the market. Delusional Mets fans thinking they’re gonna net anything significant after that comment ha!

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        • Pads Fans

          2 years ago

          2nd full season. 113 and 107 GP in 2022 and 2023. K rate about the same in both. 110 OPS+.

          Morel is a decent bat without a position. Do you know what those are called? A DH.

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    • LFGMets (Metsin7) #FireCarlosMendoza&DrewSmith

      2 years ago

      @TexasLeaguer if Morel is so valuable why would the Cubs trade him? If I’m trading Alonso, I need more than Morel. I’d need a mix of PCA, Morel, and Adzolay

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      • TexasLeaguer

        2 years ago

        They would trade him because his primary position is second and they don’t have a legit 1b coming up. I don’t see it though

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        • Pads Fans

          2 years ago

          Morel’s primary position is DH.

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      • raisinsss

        2 years ago

        lol.

        Btv isn’t the ultimate resource, but go ahead and plug those players in. See how hilarious this proposal really is.

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        • A_Cespedes_For_The_Rest_Of_Us

          2 years ago

          Lol that’s the dumbest app … By that apps ridiculous grading score Morel for Soto is an even trade

          But it’s a stupid debate bc alonso isn’t getting traded and if he was morel for him straight up would simply put never ever happen

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  20. Slider_withcheese

    2 years ago

    He never really liked his time in Queens and was never Met material anyway. He won’t be missed

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  21. Wheeler Dealer

    2 years ago

    As much as I want Bellinger back It sure would be fun to see what numbers Alonso could put up at Wrigley in a contract year

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  22. NickyNoodles

    2 years ago

    If you trade Alonso, the question then becomes how do you make up the 40+ HRs year in and year out. Say what you want about his defense but it’s average, which is fine. If the Mets, and Cohen, were smart they’d lock up Alonso. He’s a home grown kid. A huge fan favorite. A legit power hitter at a premium position. This is a no-brainer.

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    • Slow day at work

      2 years ago

      “A legit power hitter at a premium position.” since when is 1B a “premium position”? C, SS, CF, maybe 2B. Those are the so called “premium positions.

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  23. VonPurpleHayes

    2 years ago

    His trade value will never get higher than right now. Extend or trade him before the season.

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      2 years ago

      Boras? Keep him and then QO him. Mets need a power bat as it stands now.

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      • good vibes only

        2 years ago

        QO pick isnt worth that much because they are over the luxury tax

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  24. FrankRoo

    2 years ago

    LOL, yes you’ll get paid what a 2-2.5bwar player who’ll be a DH in the future deserves to get paid.

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  25. mookiesboy

    2 years ago

    love him! he’s no freddie. let the market set his price next winter and beat it by a million. i bet it’s no greater than 30 per

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  26. MarlinsFanBase

    2 years ago

    Alonso has the right to ask his price…especially from the Mets and what he does for the team.

    For goodness sake, you guys gave Brandon Nimmo 8 years and $162 million for coming up to the plate with his bat glued to his shoulder and praying the pitcher misses the strikezone four time, but some of you don’t think a guy that comes up to the plate and swings and bangs approximately 40+ HRs and is always a 50-HR threat and RBI machine is not worth $200 million? See how good Lindor looks without Alonso’s bat in the lineup.

    Go ahead and don’t pay Alonso. Maybe when he starts looking to go to a team near his home, for the same shortchange price you all want to sign him for, maybe you all will change your tunes. Rangers, Astros, Mets may be letting you get your next 1B/DH. Marlins? Uh oh, what if the Braves want a DH? I bet Alonso would take those shortchange prices from those teams who are closer to his home.

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    • Subatomicbunt

      2 years ago

      Biiggg Dan Vogelbach is the way to go!!

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      • MarlinsFanBase

        2 years ago

        I would compare him the Dave Kingman, but that doesn’t change the fact that he’ll get the money he wants from somebody. and if the Mets want him to stay, they’ll have to pay his demands or they’ll open the door for someone else to jump in if they try to shortchange him.

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    • Sourhaze

      2 years ago

      Nimmo lived up that contract the first year. Surely he did

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      • MarlinsFanBase

        2 years ago

        Only 7 more years to go!

        And how does that change from the fact that Alonso can make his demands? Alonso is still far more the foundation of the Mets lineup than Nimmo is. If the supporting cast can get $162 million, the core of the lineup can surely get $200 million.

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  27. skullbreathe

    2 years ago

    Yeah I’m looking to surpass hot deals for women at the clubs.. Good luck.

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  28. its_happening

    2 years ago

    Mets should test the trade market with Alonso. Fill some holes if they can.

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  29. slider32

    2 years ago

    Alonzo is the least of their problems, why are the Mets squeezing him? Cohen has the money and he is a top 5-8 first basemen. There biggest mistake was with their pitching last year. They made a mistake with Verlander and Scherzer and let Bassitt and Walker walk.

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  30. eyeball710

    2 years ago

    There are few bigger slobs in baseball than Pete Alonso.

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  31. good vibes only

    2 years ago

    As much as I want the Ms to get rid of Ty France, I’d rather have Ty than this guy. I bet the Mets trade him this winter.

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  32. Lefty_Orioles_Fan

    2 years ago

    Well, he said he was a Polar Bear
    Maybe Cohen could buy him a Luxury Home at the North Pole and pay all expenses

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  33. thefallensoldier

    2 years ago

    Morel had the same OPS as Alonso, is younger, controllable and cheaper. If the Cubs trade him 1 for 1 for Alonso it’s a bad deal for the Cubs.

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    • Ma4170

      2 years ago

      Alonso has an 870 career ops in over 2500 ab. Morel has a 781 career ops in 780+ ab. Ops+ alonso 136 to morel 110. Just stop.

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      • Slow day at work

        2 years ago

        5 years of Morel is better than 1 year of Alonso.

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    • thefallensoldier

      2 years ago

      Morel 119 wrc+ Alonso 121+ last season. Alonso has been on a downward trend since his elite rookie season. Alonso for Morel is just stupid for the Cubs

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  34. Pads Fans

    2 years ago

    8 year, $24 million AAV extension signed before opening day. You heard it here first.

    Similar age, similar OPS+, similar power to Olson in the 3 years leading up to his FA plus add in 2 years of FA salary inflation.

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    • Slow day at work

      2 years ago

      As a Braves fan, I would love to see the Mets do that deal

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  35. ChristianRocker

    2 years ago

    I hope he doesn’t clinch his butt, otherwise his gonna decapitate himself with how far his head is up there

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  36. cpdpoet

    2 years ago

    Didn’t the Mets say ’24 was a step back year?
    If so, move him for the highest bounty; a couple low level lottery tix, and a couple MLB ready type prospects ? Otherwise it’ll be a year of contract / trade questions…
    If he really wants to reset the 1b market -good for him- let it happen on the open market. He does deserve the free market option obviously.
    Baseball is a business…

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    • Pads Fans

      2 years ago

      No. Sticky Hands said it was a step back year. All the Mets said was that they were not going all in on free agents for 2024. So not going to sign 2 elderly pitchers for $43 million each.

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  37. JayRyder

    2 years ago

    It’s going to be 10-12 years 30 mil per season

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  38. VonPurpleHayes

    2 years ago

    Sign Rhys Hoskins. He is the RC Cola to to Alonso’s Coke.

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    • cpdpoet

      2 years ago

      Wow, just did a google…
      Had no idea that RC is the clear #3 behind the big 2? Upvote for the education…

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  39. CardsFan57

    2 years ago

    Freeman is much better than Alonso. I’ll be surprised if Alonso gets a better contract.

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  40. jvent

    2 years ago

    If the Cubs really want Alonso, they have to pay, Steele, Ben Brown, Morel and Wisdom for Alonso, Marte and Quintana ,if not than just extend Alonso 8/$200 mil no more.

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    • raisinsss

      2 years ago

      I just wanted to say really good job naming some players on the Mets. I’m so proud of you.

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  41. burly

    2 years ago

    Big 1Bmen don’t age well

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  42. Senga Stan

    2 years ago

    Let me start off by saying that as a Mets fan I would love for & hope that Pete Alonso is a Met for life. With that being said, I cannot allow sentimental attachment to overrule the inclination that I have that a contract extension of this magnitude could & likely would be a disastrous investment on the New York Mets part. I am under the impression that it’s only a matter of time before reports come out that say contract extension talks between both sides have stagnated & it’s likely that an agreement on a contract extension will not be reached. I have absolutely no interest in giving Pete Alonso the chance to hit free agency either & have him potentially be another core player that the New York Mets lose for a draft pick. Under the potential circumstances that I have cited regarding the potential developments or lack there of on contract extension negotiations, I would be upset if the Mets front office did not at least moderately explore the trade market. There are multiple assets that the Chicago Cubs possess that I would be satisfied with in a potential Pete Alonso trade. I am probably the only Mets fans who is excited about the possibility of adding Christopher Morel to the group of young players that the New York Mets will feature next season. His rare combination of power & speed in addition to five years of team control is something that is difficult to come across. I understand the concerns about his fielding, but his arm strength gives me confidence that he could at least become an average fielder if given a permanent everyday position such as left field. In addition to Christopher Morel, I would also expect the Mets to inquire about Javier Assad & Jordan Wicks. The likelihood of the Chicago Cubs parting with all three is slim to none, but this is likely the best return package that you could hope for as a Mets fan in a Pete Alonso trade. I’m sure there will be at least one reply to this saying “we’re not reading all of that” or something much more direct & insulting, but I figured I would share my two cents on the situation since this is something that I feel strongly about.

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  43. bshane229

    2 years ago

    He is a Boras client and he is going to get paid. I do think that Pete is going to continue to be a lower batting average hitter with good power for the next 4-5 yrs and the Mets will be stuck with a bad contract for the second half of the deal. The problem for the Mets is they already have a player like that on the roster in Lindor so having almost 60 million tied up with two aging players not producing will be a drag on the team. Oh I know I know :”Uncle Steve can handle any cost” but even he has limits. I would trade Pete and continue to build the right way like the Astros, Braves & Dodgers have done.

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  44. Jo Anne

    2 years ago

    His ego will hurt him in the end. He’s a one dimensional player.

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  45. Jo Anne

    2 years ago

    Freeman, Olson, Goldschmidt are all superior to Alonso. The guy has an over-inflated view of himself.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      2 years ago

      It’s not necessarily that he believes he’s better than any of those guys. He is currently playing for the richest owner in baseball history. He’s young. He crushes 40+ annually. His circumstances make his ask justified. It doesn’t mean he’s better than the guys you mentioned. It doesn’t even mean he thinks he’s better. I don’t think Counsell is the best manager in baseball, but he’s now the highest paid. Timing means everything.

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  46. Jo Anne

    2 years ago

    Completely agree.. He’s so overrated..

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  47. Sherm623

    2 years ago

    If I am the Cubs, I would rather have Bellinger than Alonso for approximately the same amount of money. More versatile and when he’s at first, Belli makes an already excellent infield even better.

    Also, if I were trading Morel it’s to Seattle. They need a 2b, where’s he adequate and they have a lot of young controllable pitching with which to part.

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  48. Cora the Destroya

    2 years ago

    Good point. I’m not as familiar with BABIP, but let’s look at WAR. Christian Walker has more WAR (3.8) than Pete Alonso (3.2) in 2023. Matt Olson had 7.4 WAR, Freddie Freeman had 6.4 WAR and even Paul Goldschmidt had 3.4 WAR, so Alonso’s theory of being the best doesn’t really add up. Even if it was an outlier season, he’s not substantially better than a lot of these other guys.

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    • JackStrawb

      2 years ago

      Agreed. Alonso’s not remotely in the tier of those three. At Alonso’s age Goldschmidt was putting up HOF caliber seasons (where he will end up 5 years after he lays down the glove) worth 5 to 8 WAR seasons. After he signed his most recent deal, PGs first two full seasons were worth 6.0 WAR and 7.8 WAR. Pete’s only done better than 4.4 WAR once, and that was back in 2019.

      Pete’s not remotely close to these guys, he’s often worth about half what they were at the same age, but he wants to make vastly more than they were paid? Even to the point of doubling Goldschmidt’s deal by many rumors, while coming off the same bad rate stats he had in 2020 and with an OPS+ of 122??

      Pete’s an arrogant halfwit, which is part of why he came back far too early from the HBP and put up an OPS of .450 for five weeks, hurting the team. Why Eppler, Buck, and Cohen tolerated it is distinctly odd.

      The only way to cool this fool is to be polite, let the market talk, then decide if you want to match it. 5/130 is reasonable, and about what he’s worth or a bit more. Are the jersey sales worth another 10, 20m? Maybe. But rumors of 8/224 are just ridiculous, particularly when the Mets will be carrying the worst of Nimmo and Lindor’s careers into 2030.

      The ‘But teh Home Runzzz’ crowd is being absurd. Go buy a Dave Kingman jersey.

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