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Reds, Jeimer Candelario Have Had Serious Discussions

By Steve Adams | December 6, 2023 at 10:11pm CDT

The Reds are in “ongoing discussions” with free agent infielder Jeimer Candelario, reports Jon Morosi of MLB.com, adding that Cincinnati has emerged as the front-runner to sign the switch-hitter. Univison’s Mike Rodriguez first reported that the two parties were in serious talks and that the Reds were a finalist to sign Candelario, who is represented by Premier Talent Sports & Entertainment. Prior reporting has pegged the Nationals, Blue Jays, Angels and D-backs as teams with interest in Candelario (although Arizona has since acquired Eugenio Suarez, likely removing them from the mix).

While the Reds are an unexpected fit for Candelario at first glance, given the club’s glut of young infield talent, they were first linked to him several weeks ago. Gordon Wittenmyer of the Cincinnati Enquirer reported this morning that the Reds met with Candelario’s reps twice during this week’s Winter Meetings and could look to add Candelario to the roster, thus pushing utilityman Spencer Steer to the outfield and possibly opening the door for the Reds to deal an infielder for rotation help.

Candelario, 30, is coming off one of the finest seasons of his career, having turned in a combined .251/.336/.471 batting line with 22 home runs (a career-high), 39 doubles, three triples and an 8-for-9 showing in stolen base attempts. That production came in a season split between the Nationals, who signed him to a one-year $5MM deal after the Tigers non-tendered him last winter, and the Cubs, who originally signed Candelario, traded him to Detroit in 2017, and reacquired him this past July.

Prior to his big league debut, Candelario was a touted prospect who ranked near the top of the farm systems in both Chicago and Detroit. He enjoyed an impressive rookie showing in 2017 (.283/.359/.425 in 38 games) but struggled to replicate that production in 2018 and saw his offense crater in 2019. Candelario bounced back with the Tigers both in 2020 and 2021, but Detroit cut him loose after a down year in 2022, wherein he posted a .217/.272/.361 slash in 467 plate appearances.

Though Candelario’s time with the Tigers came to an unceremonious end, he rebounded nicely between Washington and Chicago this past season and positioned himself nicely for a multi-year deal in free agency this winter. Between the 2020 season, when he hit .297/.369/.503 in the shortened 60-game campaign, and his strong 2021 and 2023 showings, Candelario has now played at a roughly three- to four-WAR pace in three of his past four seasons.

If the Reds ultimately convince Candelario to put pen to paper, it’ll create more questions than answers in Cincinnati. It’s clear the Reds are strong believers in Candelario’s upside, but Cincinnati also arguably has more infield talent than any team in MLB. Prospects Elly De La Cruz, Matt McLain, Noelvi Marte and Christian Encarnacion-Strand all made their MLB debuts this past season, with McLain emerging as a viable Rookie of the Year candidate and the others performing quite well in smaller samples. Meanwhile, former top prospect Spencer Steer, who debuted late in the 2022 season, was pushed to an infield/outfield role and delivered a terrific first full MLB season, hitting .271/.356/.464 with 23 big flies and 15 steals. That doesn’t even include 2021 NL Rookie of the Year Jonathan India, who’s established himself as a leader in the Reds’ clubhouse even as his bat has taken a step back after a standout rookie showing.

Adding Candelario to that mix, presumably at third base, could come at the expense of playing time for Marte — the presumptive starter at third base — would create a veritable embarrassment of riches. Of course, that surplus would exist at a time when the free-agent market for bats — infielders, in particular — is historically thin. The Reds unexpectedly jumping into the market for one of the top free-agent infielders would simultaneously lessen the supply for other clubs in free agency and strengthen their negotiation stance in trade talks for pitching help.

To this point, it’s not clear which, if any, of the Reds’ infielders have drawn the most interest on the market. India was reported to be a trade candidate early in the offseason (and was also asked about frequently leading into the trade deadline), but Cincinnati GM Nick Krall has since suggested he expects India to be on the Reds’ roster in 2024. De La Cruz was so touted prior to his debut that it’s difficult to see Cincinnati seriously considering a trade. Similarly, McLain’s electric .290/.357/.507 debut would appear especially painful for the Reds to surrender in a trade.

There’s no easy answer for Cincinnati when it comes to dealing from that infield cache, but if the Reds ultimately sign Candelario, the pressure of such a decision could be lessened. As far as potential rotation targets for Krall & Co., options abound. The Reds already signed Nick Martinez — giving them a veteran complement to a young staff of Hunter Greene, Andrew Abbott, Nick Lodolo, Brandon Williamson and Graham Ashcraft — but they’ve also been linked to names like Dylan Cease, Shane Bieber and Tyler Glasnow in trade rumblings. There are various paths the Reds can take, and if they can manage to add Candelario and subsequently deal another infielder to acquire a rotation arm at a lower rate, it’ll be a nice — albeit unexpected — sleight of hand for a Cincinnati front office that typically operates on a tight budget.

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46 Comments

  1. Hired Gun 23

    2 years ago

    About?

    2
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    • Mr. E Team

      2 years ago

      Whether they are serious or just flirting.

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  2. marinersblue96

    2 years ago

    Reds seem the least likely of all teams to be signing a infielder. There has to be a few moves brewing to get the pitching that they really need. They will be an interesting team to watch over the rest of the off season.

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    • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

      2 years ago

      Maybe they want to send Noelvi Marte back to the Mariners for Bryan Woo and some other dude.

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      • good vibes only

        2 years ago

        No no let’s get Elly to Seattle instead lol

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      • marinersblue96

        2 years ago

        I would like that, but to be honest I really was disappointed when they traded Edwin Arroyo in that deal. I would love to get him back in Seattle. I think he is going to be a star.

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        • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

          2 years ago

          I would love to get Conor Philips back actually. Remember when we started our September swoon with that awful road trip to play the Mets and the Reds and Philips was nasty!!!

          Reply
  3. SweetBabyRayKingsThickThighs

    2 years ago

    The Reds do love a third baseman.

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  4. TrillionaireTeamOperator

    2 years ago

    Question is:

    Do the Reds have to overpay for him because nobody likes going to the Reds, or do the Reds get a discount because they’re his best/only option and he wants the deal and will sacrifice what he considered his value to be, to get the guarantee?

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    • Biggie22

      2 years ago

      I don’t think they have to overpay position players at all…. It’s mainly just pitchers because the ballpark is such a challenge to pitch in…

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    • marinersblue96

      2 years ago

      IDK, Candelario would of been a great fit for Seattle who need and upgrade and depth at both 1B and 3B.

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      • labial

        2 years ago

        Seattle’s dumping cash not adding

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        • marinersblue96

          2 years ago

          Wrong. They have to add and have about $50 million available at least per their beat writer.

          Reply
  5. Cincyfan85

    2 years ago

    So stupid. 2024 will be the year they finish paying off the Mike Moustakas mistake. Another guy they didn’t need when they signed him. Where does Candelario fit? Spend the money on pitching please. Or an OF.

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    • Alan Horn

      2 years ago

      I agree. I would prefer the Reds to run with what they have and sign a couple more relief pitchers. They have enough starters at the ML level and below to cover them.. Hold on to the young hitters. Michael Taylor and this guy are not going to help them that much.

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  6. Mikey P

    2 years ago

    So I hate the negativity that of most comments, especially from one guy on here, but this has me thinking Po Boy lmao. Unless we somehow trade CEH or Marte for a great pitcher, but it better not be a Glasnow who we all know if one year n out the door.

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    • dantheman1997

      2 years ago

      Marte would be the only infielder I would flip for pitching. I’d keep CES at first (let him or steer battle that out) india at second, McClain to short and Elly to third.

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  7. dantheman1997

    2 years ago

    Why? We need pitching and a right handed outfield bat.

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  8. Biggie22

    2 years ago

    This move leads me to believe Marte may be made available for a controllable starting pitcher…. Aside from Elly, Steer & McLain who I can’t see them moving he’s by far the most valuable trade chip on the team…. CES would be next but I think Marte ability to play SS makes him much more valuable…
    Could be wrong but think they’re laying the groundwork to make a run at a Cease or one of the Marlins or Mariners controllable pitchers..

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    • jbryant0693

      2 years ago

      CES expendable and most likely trade match with Seattle for pitching..

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      • This one belongs to the Reds

        2 years ago

        After seeing Marte play, that would be a mistake to deal him.

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      • octavian8

        2 years ago

        I was counting on CES to provide power in the middle of the order along with Steer and possibly Elly.

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        • This one belongs to the Reds

          2 years ago

          Why they would think Candelario at a big price is a better idea than an emerging CES?

          Po Boy can’t seem to acquire anything but infielders.

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    • Mikey P

      2 years ago

      100. Everything we’re hearing says Marte goes for pitching and they being in an infielder on a lower end deal.
      1B CES
      2B India
      SS McLain
      3B Elly
      Steer outfield. They all rotate around with DH involvement.
      If White Sox wanted an infielder it be done but they want pitching and hopefully reds say no. I wouldn’t trade Marte as he really impressed me at end of last year but I remember scouts had said his shine had dropped a bit. I just don’t want to see a Marte for Glasnow trade. 1 year v 6 cheap years just doesn’t make sense to me.

      Reply
  9. Wire to wire 2024

    2 years ago

    If only I could post gifs here, michael scott would be all over the comments

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    • JimC

      2 years ago

      That’s what she said?

      Reply
      • Wire to wire 2024

        2 years ago

        When Toby came back

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  10. Fire Krall

    2 years ago

    why?? Dont need him..Krall is by far one of the biggest DAss in baseball.

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  11. Cincyfan85

    2 years ago

    Marte, CES, and Steer would be the last guys I’d trade because they will be the easiest to extend. Elly and McLain (and India) are Borass clients.

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    Reply
  12. CaseyAbell

    2 years ago

    Either the Reds are planning to play a six-man infield all the time, or they’re looking to trade for pitching. Something tells me it’s the second possibility.

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    Reply
  13. Matfactor2

    2 years ago

    Only way I’d be ok with this signing is if they trade Marte and many others for Glassnow and Arozarena.

    Reply
  14. Fire Krall

    2 years ago

    Only person that needs to go is India!

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  15. Logjammer D"Baggagecling

    2 years ago

    Votto’s replacement? I hope not. I would love if Candy returned to the Cubs

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    • cubfanforever

      2 years ago

      This guy should be a no brainer acquisition for the Cubs. First basemen, third baseman. He has decent power, doubles machine, puts the ball in play, pretty solid defensively. Helps the Cubs in multiple ways. And he won’t break the bank. Bring him back Jed.

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      • Armaments216

        2 years ago

        What if this rumor is just gamesmanship by the Reds to up the cost for their division rival.

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  16. Fire Krall

    2 years ago

    Krall is looking for retread players instead of going after SP. Rodriguez should of been a target instead were signing minor league infielders/outfielders. I really wonder what the hell is wrong with Krall. Was a season ticket holder. The Castellini owners ran alot of us off. Hell, honestly about done. Next I wont watch on TV.

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  17. Bdonnell

    2 years ago

    How about NO!

    Reply
  18. Fire Krall

    2 years ago

    no?

    Reply
  19. Mauired

    2 years ago

    How backwards. Trade away a younger, cheaper player with more control and potential. And waste money on a bat when the team needs pitching. This makes no sense.

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  20. RichP

    2 years ago

    Decent player but I don’t see the need considering the over crowded infield.

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  21. earmbrister

    2 years ago

    Candelario is a legit 1B and DH to be paired with CES. Have to believe that India is on his way out, with hopefully some pitching on its way in. Interesting offseason with a promising season on the horizon.

    Reply
  22. Moonlight Graham

    2 years ago

    1B – CES
    2B – McLain
    3B – Marte
    SS – De La Cruz
    Util – India

    The infield is already crowded. Are the Reds planning to trade two of these guys to break up the logjam AND accommodate Candelario?

    Why not just swap India for a pitcher and sign a utility infielder in the Kyle Farmer mold?

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    • Wire to wire 2024

      2 years ago

      Elly at third and marte at short

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  23. Melchez17

    2 years ago

    Matt Manning, Reese Olson and Tyler Holton for Marte and Arroyo.
    2 young inexpensive starters and a solid lefty reliever for a couple young middle infielders.

    Reply
  24. IjustloveBaseball

    2 years ago

    The Reds’ young position players are talented, no doubt. But they’re still relatively unproven. Candelario raises the floor some here.

    Reply
  25. Mr_KLC

    2 years ago

    Astros have gotten rid of Framber Valdez’s catcher. Now it’s time to trade him to the Reds for Bregman’s (and Altuve’s?) replacement.

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