Marcus Stroman is among the many pitchers the Royals “appear to [have] on their radar,” the New York Post’s Jon Heyman writes (X link). Rotation help is a stated goal of the Kansas City offseason, and the club has been linked to such other free agents as Seth Lugo, Lucas Giolito, and the now-signed Sonny Gray and Erick Fedde, as well as trade targets on teams like the Mariners and Marlins.
Stroman is another name that would pretty much instantly become the de facto ace of a largely unproven K.C. rotation. Cole Ragans looked tremendous after being dealt to the Royals in the Aroldis Chapman trade, but Ragans has only 136 Major League innings on his resume. The rest of the Royals’ homegrown young arms struggled across the board, as did veterans Jordan Lyles, Zack Greinke, and Brad Keller. With the latter two now free agents, the 2024 rotation currently lines up as Ragans, Lyles, Brady Singer, and then question marks.
It wasn’t exactly a clean season for Stroman either last year, as injuries spoiled what was initially shaping up to be a very strong 2023 campaign. Stroman had a 3.95 ERA over 136 2/3 innings, which broke down as a 2.96 ERA in 112 2/3 frames prior to the All-Star break, and then a 8.64 ERA over his final 24 innings of the season. The right-hander missed about six weeks due to hip inflammation and then a cartilage fracture in his right ribcage, and thus the Cubs limited to Stroman to shortened starts and bullpen work after he returned from the injured list in September.
With injuries also hampering Stroman in 2022, some durability questions naturally have to be asked as the righty enters his age-33 season. That said, Stroman chose to bet on himself by exercising the opt-out clause in his contract with the Cubs, leaving behind a $21MM salary for 2024 in search of a larger pact in the free agent market.
MLBTR predicted a two-year, $44MM deal for Stroman, who ranked 18th on our top 50 free agents list. This projection acts as reflects his recent injury history while still locking in some extra money and security. Of course, only the market will determine how accurate this prediction was, and if Stroman’s price tag does approach a $22MM average annual value, it might put him out of Kansas City’s spending range.
GM J.J. Picollo recently said that the Royals have at least $30MM available on free agents this winter, as ownership is willing to allocate a bit more payroll than usual in order to address the club’s pitching needs and simply to help right the ship after a dreadful 106-loss season. Stroman making over $20MM would alone eat up a good portion of that budget, but the fact that the Royals are even considering Stroman, Lugo, or even Gray indicates that Kansas City is prepared to make a relatively big splash for a larger upgrade. Likewise, it should be noted that the Royals could also still look to obtain pitching help in trades, though giving up prospects would represent a different kind of cost than simply spending on a free agent.
Picollo made a point of noting how the Royals (and other rebuilding teams) need to work harder to convince veteran free agents to join a club that doesn’t look like a contender for 2024 or perhaps even in the near future. That said, Stroman was willing to join the Cubs two years ago when Chicago was in the midst of a rebuild, so he could perhaps be amendable to joining the Royals if the price is right and if Stroman has confidence that the franchise is on the right track. It also can’t be ruled out that Stroman might view K.C. as something of a stopover, whether via a trade at the deadline or perhaps another contractual opt-out clause.
I hope they have ear plugs.
I don’t get it
Tjenk – I think it’s a reference to him saying he wants to be heard and him talking a lot.
Stroman’s a world-class yapper
OMG! Stroman would be better off signing with the San Francisco Giants instead.
True, but I doubt the Giants will be better off w/ Stroman at, say, 2/44m, for his age 33-34 seasons than they would spending the money somewhere else. .
Until he proves otherwise teams have to treat him as a 2/3 of a season pitcher, around 125 innings once the usual age-related decline is figured in. And it’s not as if he’s been an ace during the last two years, either. A 116 ERA+ is nice, but not brilliant—and we should expect a decline their, as well.
I wonder if…….. If Stroman had known the Cubs were going to steal Counsell, He would have taken that 21 million to stay one more year? Another thing I wonder is…….. Is Stroman interested in the Royals? My answer is probably not. He wants to pitch on the big stage and the Royals aren’t going to be there anytime soon and he’s 33.
He’s “just” 32, and while he’s not an ace, he can be a decent #2-3 for the next couple of seasons (on a good team with strong defense), and a solid 3-4 for a few more years. I certainly wouldn’t mind him on my favorite team for the right price.
Why? Both are poverty franchises.
Hey Captain,
Your obsession with SF is borderline perverse at this point. Find some new material, you say the same thing every day
Didn’t Fedde sign as well?
Yeah this Polishuk dude needs to be polishing up his work. Usually lot of typos too
Ahhhhhhhhhh
I think Mark was just saying they were supposedly in on Fedde and Gray, Although if he has 30 million to spend and about 14 holes to fill did he really think he was going to be in Gray’s League? Or the top of the FA Pitcher pool for that matter? Fedde signed with the White Sox and Gray with the Cards. They need to aim way lower or get the Royals to cough up some more dough. I doubt admitting you only have 30 million to spend is going to make your phone ring off the hook.
My favorite is Nick Deeds. You can play a drinking game while reading all of his posts to see how many times he uses the word “brutal”.
@Theo: “…and the now-signed Sonny Gray and Erick Fedde.”
What part of that accurate statement needs polishing up?
I’ve got Jack Flaherty going to KC.
Stroman is not going to sign a one year deal and it wouldn’t make sense for the Royals to sign him to a multi-year deal unless they believe they are close to contending
Idk if they’re close, but they’re probably the closest they’ve been since like 2018. Witt Jr is a star and they have a handful of pieces in a weak division. They’re also trying to get a new ballpark so it might be time to show the fan base you’re willing to spend some money. I don’t think this would move the needle for them but it’s better than nothing.
You never know, the division is so weak that it’s really anyone’s to take. Twins have won it the most consistently but even they’re unpredictable.
It makes sense for the Royals to sign anyone who throws a baseball hard and within a two foot radius of where they are trying to throw the ball.
Do you really understand how bad the AL Central is? Not saying the Royals are contenders but the climb may not be that steep. In 2025 they get former 20 game winner Kyle Wright back from Tommy John surgery. The offense is likely to improve greatly as their kids mature. The Royals are likely to offer more years than than other teams can. Their current shopping list shows they mean business.
So according to MLBs lackey (Dennis Lin) the Padres shouldn’t even bother with any free agents. Stroman is out of reach, even after shedding payroll. So no Soto and Stroman is too expensive?
#FIRESALE
Padres are acting like a Poverty Franchise.
Stroman to the pirates. One year deal.
It’s weird are the Royals trying to compete?
In all honesty, they are trying to justify building a new stadium. Acting like they are trying to compete and actually competing are 2 different things. Jackson County/Kansas City doesn’t want a stadium for a yearly 100 loss team.
KC thinks they’re the Dodgers because they both have blue uniforms
Only difference the dodgers haven’t won a full season championship since 1988 the royals 2015
Small fish in a pond of no fish
I don’t see Stroman entertaining the Royals unless there’s little to no other interest in the league. Kansas City lost over 100 games and they’ve been awful for several years now.
The Royals are going to have to stretch their expenditures out and sign a couple other pieces before approaching a mid/upper rotation starter who’s clock to retirement is ticking.
At least that’s how I see it.
I don’t like Stroman’s attitude. Or his “swagger.”
and shave those sideburns, Mattingly!!!
Stroman screwed up opting out and not staying with the Cubs.
Agreed. What was he thinking? I believe the Cubs lucked out. What kind of deal do you see him getting?
He was atrocious in the second half and relegated to the bullpen. If he gets multiple years over 20 million, I’d be stunned.
4/80 wouldn’t susprise me at all.
lol Stroman wasn’t relegated to the bullpen, he made TWO appearances out of the bullpen because he didn’t have any rehab starts and then Ross threw him to the wolves out of desperation.
This is what happens when writers write, you don’t get the full story then you’re led to believe a lie.
Stroman was bad of course but he was also injured.
His last 7 starts before his “injury” were atrocious. He came back and pitched out of the bullpen and if he did start he got shellacked. We can mince words but he wasn’t pitching in the playoffs as a sp.
It was obvious Stroman tweaked his hip in the London start, if you actually watched any of his games. It was right when or right after Wisdom made a costly error (that somehow wasn’t recorded as an error).
To me, it’s kind of silly (actually stupid) to discredit Stromans season, opps, no, career, based off eight games where there was an injury and no rehab starts. It’s like saying Scherzer is done because he pitched without a rehab start in the post season and got shelled too.
Neither of Stromans injuries are career altering, not like a ligament injury and would have been better off just sitting out the rest of the season but he wanted to try to help his team make the post season. Without the rehab starts, Stroman should have been left in relief but Ross and his infinite non-wisdom, out Assad in the pen and Stroman back in the rotation.
But is Marcus Stroman interested in them?
I don’t see Stroman as a fit for K.C.
if he is willing to sign a 1-2 year deal the Braves would jump all over that.
He is clearly looking for the most money.
I think if the Pirates opened up their checkbook for a 3 year deal he would be a great fit for them. Even a 4/$80 I think he would sign & be worth.
It is time for the Pirates to make the next step
Wouldn’t mind my Braves going 3/$$70 for him
He has a relationship with AA with their time in Toronto. He could even be the next Josh Donaldson on a 1 year deal to reestablish his value.
I would rather role with rookie pitchers like AJSS over the little man Stroman.
I would even go as far to say bring in Trevor Bauer over Stroman. Yes they are both mental cases but Bauer is still a TOR pitcher. Bauer pitched well in Japan last year.
I originally thought Stroman would sign for 3 years 51 million but given some of the comical contracts this year it could be more.
It’s funny to be that certain fans… think Stroman is a head case, has a bad attitude etc. which based on his time in Chicago, wasn’t the case.
Yeah, Stroman is going to speak out on racial issues which rub some fans the wrong way and he’s “emotional” on the mound but people, viewing in their narrow scope, don’t realize that he and some other African American players made that conscious effort to be more showy and expressive in hopes to make the game more intriguing to African American youth.
Loud mouthed bum
Go Cubs Go!!
Stroman would be a great addition to almost any team if he’d just shut-his-mouth and pitch. Guy is talented, but exhausting.
Exactly. He wears out his welcome everywhere he goes. He’s a bit of a head case.
Guy is talented, but exhausting.
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I don’t often agree with Parks, but he nailed it with this one. If Stroman was available for $40M/2, his numbers say it is an absolute steal.
But I don’t remember him ever not being in the news. His agent should suggest a 2-year contract with a one-year opt-out, and tell him to stay off social media for the entire year.
It’s funny people get all kinds a b hurt about his tweets on social injustice but ignore all the tweets about his community outreach and tweets about how great Justin Steele was/is and how great his catchers were.
I could honestly care less about Stroman’s political views. He has been a problem wherever he has been. Look at how he treated the media in Toronto. Then when Toronto didn’t trade him to the Yankees he threw a fit. He goes to the Mets and pitches decently then flips on Eppler when he wasn’t resigned. He goes out and pitches decently for a half season in Chicago and is lobbying for an extension. It’s nice that he cares about social injustice and has been a good teammate to Justin Steele. He has shown time and again that all he really cares about is Marcus Stroman.
Seems like addition by subtraction for teams that value limited distractions. I don’t see a contender signing him for more than a year, with a vesting option based on starts or IP, as his second half numbers were beyond putrid. He should be grateful for any interest after that 8+ ERA he twirled last season after the midpoint mark.
Don’t do it K.C. he’s a head case and he’s hurt I can’t believe how lucky the Cubs got with him opting out!!!!!
Stroman isn’t going to KC, maybe Lugo because he still wants to start , Flaherty or Carrasco ( unless he goes back home to Cleveland) and retires there.
Feels like KC is going to sign one starter, and end up in a Gil Meche situation again.
I don’t see him wanting to sign with KC.. beautiful city and good BBQ but KC isn’t a contender. They’ll only trade him at the deadline. But money talks so if he gets $22 million per like the projection says get it.
Yeah, KC is a team that could sign him with the intention to parlay into a deadline trade – he seems like a good candidate for such a move. Strange how his name hasn’t been attached anywhere.
How come no team Strohman plays on ever wants him back?
Did you read a single one of the other comments answering your question for you?
That question answers itself
I can see Stroman signing with the Giants. They do need another starter, he’s a groundball pitcher, and he’s praised the organization before. I think it would be a good fit, and they would still have money for Yamamoto or Lee.
Stroman’s market value is $15.6 per Spotrac and the Royals said they had $30M to spend so unless they Royals want to put half their winter spending into one pitcher, I doubt that happens.
I seriously doubt he is interested in the Royals.
KC is a perfect fit for Stroman. His need for publicity is not going to derail a contender, and he makes them much better. And likely has trade value 3 months into his contract.
He would never fit in with KC. Talk of the town is still Taylor Swift. I don’t think he would share the spotlight.
The Dodgers should be trying to sign every free agent pitcher available.
Twins need Stroman. He could be a real good number 2 behind Pablo Lopez if he stays healthy.
A “real good number 2” could go a couple directions I guess.
Sounds like you need to see a proctologist…
If a player signs with a team, it means he’s AMENABLE, not AMENDABLE.