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Charlie Culberson Attempting To Become Pitcher, Re-Signs With Braves On Minors Deal

By Darragh McDonald | January 12, 2024 at 3:42pm CDT

Charlie Culberson has re-signed with the Braves on a minor league deal and will report to minor league camp as a pitcher, per reports from Jon Heyman of The New York Post and Justin Toscano of the Atlanta Journal Constitution.

Culberson, 35 in April, has served as a utility player in the majors for over a decade now. He debuted with the Giants back in 2012 and has since suited up for the Rockies, Dodgers, Braves and Rangers, getting into 590 games in his career. He’s never been a huge threat at the plate, having hit .248/.293/.385 overall for a wRC+ of 76, but he has generally received strong defensive grades while lining up at every position on the diamond except catcher and center field.

That includes some brief stints on the mound, which have gone well. He has tossed 7 1/3 innings over his eight appearances in the big leagues, allowing just one earned run, three walks and seven hits while striking out one opponent. He also made four appearances in Triple-A last year, allowing two earned runs in 3 2/3 innings, with five strikeouts and two walks. As noted by Toscano, Culberson was clocked at 93.7 miles per hour in an appearance back in 2018. In Triple-A last year, he hit 93.1.

Perhaps focusing on pitching full-time will allow him to push that velocity further, or maybe it will be harder for him to maintain it with a larger workload. Attempting to suddenly become a pitcher on the cusp of one’s 35th birthday is obviously an unusual path but there’s some logic to it for Culberson. He would have been hard-pressed to find a meaningful role as a utility player going forward. In 2023, he had two separate month-long stints on the big league roster in Atlanta but received just one major league plate appearance for the year. Incidentally, he got a single and finished the year with a slash line of 1.000/1.000/1.000 and a wRC+ of 475. But instead of languishing on the bench or in the minors again, he’ll take a different path.

It will also be fun storyline for supporters of the club. Culberson has become something of a fan favorite over his many stints with Atlanta and he’ll now set his sights on a new and surprising task.

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  1. Braveslifer

    1 year ago

    Good for him.

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    • Shadow_Banned

      1 year ago

      3-0 pitch…Ohtani! Blasts this one out of orbit, a monstrous 540 foot home run! 6-0 Dodgers!

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      • migg

        1 year ago

        Did Ohtani just hit a 6-run-HR?

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        • Shadow_Banned

          1 year ago

          They were already up 5-0

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        • greyishwhitesox

          1 year ago

          If someone can, it’s him

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      • ChipperChop

        1 year ago

        @sb I think you’re confused. It was Ronald that hit the 120mph bomb at Dodger stadium a few months ago that made Mookie grimace and Dave Robert’s say “I’ve never seen anything like that before” postgame. If Otani is ever able to pitch again against the Braves, Dave will be able to say he’s seen it twice.

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        • Shadow_Banned

          1 year ago

          ^_^ as if taking our sloppy seconds Anthopoulos wasn’t enough. Let’s hope both teams face off in October so we can put a spanky spank on them.

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        • ChipperChop

          1 year ago

          Zero chance that happens. Mookie is guaranteed to go 0-20 or however many AB’s he gets in the playoffs, Freddie won’t do a thing until the game is out of hand and Otani has never played in a playoff game. Whoever the Dodgers play first round will send them home. And I can guarantee at least a few of the higher ups for the Dodgers are wishing the kept AA so they wouldn’t have to spend a billion to win.

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        • Shadow_Banned

          1 year ago

          We’ll see. LA has practically had ATL by the balls these last 10 playoffs

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        • LonnieB

          1 year ago

          Pretty sure the Braves had the last laugh the last time so you dodgers have to show up next time. Never forget Tyler Matzek sitting down a first ballot and mookie in one inning with runners on 2nd and 3rd no outs……

          Mic dropped

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        • LonnieB

          1 year ago

          Spitting straight fire works right now!!!

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        • LonnieB

          1 year ago

          Short term memory loss?!?! Pretty sure we knocked you out in 21 and you guys won the 2020 tee ball short season right? When was the last one before that?

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        • Shadow_Banned

          1 year ago

          Your team tried and failed in 2020 so how does that work?

          It doesn’t matter to me much each year we’re gonna be good and I’m happy with that

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        • ATL Shawty

          1 year ago

          Cut that out…you must have been asleep in 2021

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        • MWeller77

          1 year ago

          That’s a great point, Chipper. I mean, AA’s team has won the last 4 pennants and 2 of the last 4 WS…wait, what? Atlanta lost in the first round the past two years just like the Dodgers? And split the NCLS with the Dodgers in 2020-21?

          This argument would make sense coming from a Phillies or Astros fan, and the Dodgers definitely need to figure out why they can’t hit or pitch from game 163 forward, but “Dodgers should have kept AA so you can win” is just silly coming from an Atlanta fan.

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        • chiefnocahoma1

          1 year ago

          They literally lost the last time. Take your meds.

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        • richardc

          1 year ago

          I take offense to that Shadow…

          Have you seen Alex Anthopoulos? There’s nothing sloppy about him. Brother doesn’t have a single hair out of place, thank you very much..lol

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      • Tonyb45

        1 year ago

        You get the downside of our sloppy seconds at first base. You get a question mark of Ohtani for nearly a billion. Quite an expensive DH if you ask me.

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        • Shadow_Banned

          1 year ago

          You’re right, you guys got Charlie Culberson. Rather have him than Ohtani. lol

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        • fivepoundbass

          1 year ago

          I have to say, I appreciate the team-related trash talk. Much better than the grammar police, personal attacks, and WAR mongering you usually see here. Glad I got to see my Rangers outlast both of you. I don’t expect that will happen again this season.

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        • Landers

          1 year ago

          LA is about 5 years and 0 WS away from becoming a much failier version of the 90s ‘yeah-but-they-only-won-one’ Braves. Braves didn’t have be top payroll/ponzi scheme to do their run.

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        • Landers

          1 year ago

          LA is just a bunch of fame chasing mercs. Ohtani didnt want present value 500M? Instead he wanted a pretend 700M for 2 days so ppl could hear his name.

          Freemans wife so thirsty for even a drop of Taylor swift shrapnel. Freeman goin to some nonOscars award show. My goodness.

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        • Shadow_Banned

          1 year ago

          @Flanders

          Braves lost like 6 straight WS in the 90s? Kinda pathetic if you think about it

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        • Landers

          1 year ago

          @shadow (anyone named shadow over the age of 12 is lol)

          If your math is right (it’s not), yes. Also pathetic is 17 playoff appearances and 1* WS.

          Seriously tho. LA better win one (probably 2) or it’s gona get historically lol-ish. Financial schemes n all. It’ll be a hell of a documentary.

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        • LonnieB

          1 year ago

          Dodgers are dripping with mediocrity but soaking with fame.

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        • NashvilleJeff

          1 year ago

          @Shadow Banned: The Braves lost 4 of 5 WS in the 90’s. If you’re going to post those childish little troll bites try to get your facts straight.

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        • Guyerbassist

          1 year ago

          The way CY is going this offseason, it won’t happen again for awhile. Signing starters that you know won’t be ready till middle of the season, and not replacing your dh or signing a quality closer or back end of bullpen guy. I think he’s still hungover from winning

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    • SE_Beast

      1 year ago

      It’ll be a long road for him. He’ll likely be traded in May, then traded to be brought back in June, before finally getting a chance to step on the mound in Atlanta. Wishing him the best to endure these hurdles

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    • NYCityRiddler

      1 year ago

      I say go for it, he can’t do any worse than he did as a player. Gotta keep those checks rollin in. Ahahaha!

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      • LonnieB

        1 year ago

        Must be a Mets fan lol. He’s probably hit 2 of his 3 homers off you guys’ 1-2 though so he’s a rider in ATL.

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  2. Braves4410

    1 year ago

    Go Charlie! Glad the Braves gave him an opportunity to do this in the minors.

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  3. Rob Schumann

    1 year ago

    Good for him. Do what you can to prolong your career.

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  4. Ham Fighter

    1 year ago

    Shohei Culberson!

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    • #LCDad

      1 year ago

      Charlie Ohtani has a nice ring…

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  5. bjhaas1977

    1 year ago

    Reverse Rick Ankel.

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    • DarkSide830

      1 year ago

      The Jason Lane!

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    • braveshomer

      1 year ago

      That’s immediately who I thought of too lol

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    • AHH-Rox

      1 year ago

      Matt Bush but without the crime.

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      • CrikesAlready

        1 year ago

        It is fair and just to remind people of what that criminal did.

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    • Ted

      1 year ago

      There’s actually a bunch of these guys. Anthony Gose comes to mind recently, and he made 28 pitching appearances in the bigs after several years as a MLB outfielder. Sergio Santos made it to AAA as a SS before becoming a pitcher.

      It’s definitely more common to see hitters at the collegiate or low minors level (Tim Hudson, Jacob DeGrom, etc) become pitchers than the other way around. I think it speaks to the unbelievable challenge of hitting a major league baseball, and really highlights how amazing Ankiel’s conversion was.

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      • Smacky

        1 year ago

        Christian Bethancourt was the Braves #1 prospect as a catcher for quite a while, then he pitched for a couple teams and now he’s back catching again.

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    • SocoComfort

      1 year ago

      Mark Lemke

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      • Ted

        1 year ago

        Lemke, of course, is most notable for having the all-time record of 3,664 plate appearances without ever being hit by a pitch.

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        • SocoComfort

          1 year ago

          Yea I was surprised when I heard he tried to make a comeback as a knuckleball pitcher lol.

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  6. quonset point

    1 year ago

    I hope for his success

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  7. swagsuperawesomeepiccoolman123

    1 year ago

    i love this, i wish him for all the success

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  8. Bob Sacamano 310

    1 year ago

    “It will also be fun storyline for supporters of the club.”

    When your team is as good of a team as the Braves are going to be, you don’t need those ha

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  9. TradeAcuna

    1 year ago

    Trade Iglesias. We found the Braves closer!

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  10. Chris from NJ

    1 year ago

    Cool. Hope he makes it. Definitely will be an uphill battle. His arm doesn’t have any mileage so who knows. Doubtful but wish him the best.

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    • PutPeteinthehall

      1 year ago

      Think Nolan Ryan. He was off for military service for his late teens early twenties. He credits this for having a healthy arm throughout his career.

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  11. Bob Sacamano 310

    1 year ago

    If he is somehow able to make it as a pitcher, could he serve as a backup IF/RP, 2-way player?

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    • Chicken In Philly?

      1 year ago

      Anyone can be designated as such, so yes.

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  12. vaderzim

    1 year ago

    I’ll always remember him as the guy who thought he hit a Game-Tying Home Run in the Bottom of the 11th in Game 2 of the 2017 World Series.

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  13. Saint Nick

    1 year ago

    Dope!

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  14. Salzilla

    1 year ago

    Good luck, dude!

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  15. getrealgone2

    1 year ago

    Gotta keep those female Braves fans over 55 happy.

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  16. EM41

    1 year ago

    Now the Braves just need to re-sign Jesse Chavez. Together they can anchor the Braves bullpen for the rest of the decade.

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  17. Rick Wilkins

    1 year ago

    Man. Called the guy a laughingstock. These writers on here are getting weak.

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    • Bob Sacamano 310

      1 year ago

      Huh?

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      • Rick Wilkins

        1 year ago

        The writer changed his post now. Instead of “languishing on the bench”, he originally said “instead of being a laughingstock”. Bush comment by the writer.

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        • braveshomer

          1 year ago

          that’s pretty bad if that’s true

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        • Rick Wilkins

          1 year ago

          I ain’t lyin’. I could understand if this was some fanboy team website, but these guys are supposed to be somewhat professional. I bet not one teammate of Charlie’s would ever characterize him as a laughingstock. I miss the Jeffrey Todd and Ben Nicholson-Smith era. Those guys had personality and kept it pro. Steve’s still pretty good, but it’s like a high school paper around anymore.

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        • TrumboRedux

          1 year ago

          Guarantee you it was an innocent mistake. “Laughingstock” “Languishing.” That has spell-check gremlin written all over it. It’s obvious isn’t it? Give Darragh a bit more credit for brains.

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        • TrumboRedux

          1 year ago

          Simple spell check snafu. Nothing ominous.

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        • TrumboRedux

          1 year ago

          Or “auto correct.” Whatever you wanna call it.

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        • Rick Wilkins

          1 year ago

          Lol, You’re really chocking this up to autocorrect?! Bro, the sentence was “instead of being or becoming a laughingstock”, and you think he meant to type languishing? The becoming just got thrown in by accident huh, or did he mean being or becoming a languishing? Give me a break man. It was a bush league shot that didn’t need to be taken, hence the fact that he changed it.

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        • Rick Wilkins

          1 year ago

          All I’m saying is it was a dumb thing to say. Changed now, so it doesn’t really matter. He is what he is.

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        • TrumboRedux

          1 year ago

          Nope. Auto correct issue. Darragh gets the benefit of the doubt.

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        • Rick Wilkins

          1 year ago

          Gotcha. You’re delusional. My bad for trying to rationalize with you. There, I threw you a like. Enjoy your evening man.

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        • CityofChampions

          1 year ago

          the AI writing this failed him.

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        • TrumboRedux

          1 year ago

          You are making up stuff up out of thin air, and I am delusional? You are the true “laughingstock” my friend. You don’t have to lie for attention. Just try and talk baseball..

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        • Slow day at work

          1 year ago

          The writer probably has one of those AI writing assistance programs. He originally wrote “instead of *typo* on the bench”, then erroneously corrected the typo to laughingstock and then the AI restructured the sentence to the final product.

          The AI probably rewrote the whole article and the writer just clicked “approve all” on the changes or quickly went one by one without paying much attention.

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        • TrumboRedux

          1 year ago

          Slow day, Yeah that’s exactly what I was saying. I mean, it wouldn’t even make since to call him a LAUGHINGSTOCK, of all things…In what reality would Darragh say that ya know? If people can’t see how “languishing” and “laughingstock” could get screwed up with auto correct or AI then I can’t really help em….Hopefully Darragh see’s these posts later and jumps in to correct the record.

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        • Rick Wilkins

          1 year ago

          Making stuff up out of thin air? You think I read that paragraph, and made all this up? Lol. Sorry I offended your boyfriend, but I’m telling the truth troll.

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        • TrumboRedux

          1 year ago

          Relaaaaaxxx Zachary. I believe you.

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        • spooky

          1 year ago

          Don’t sweat it Zach, Trumbo is a joke. He’ll post 40 times in a row with the mentality that if he continues to say the same thing over and over again that it becomes truth

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        • TrumboRedux

          1 year ago

          Lol Spooky, you obviously have me confused with someone else. I am quite sure I had you muted as well. This lack of muting ability is turning into a troll free for all. Go piss up a rope spooky dookie!

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        • spooky

          1 year ago

          Mute away bro, my comment was to Zachary. There is no confusion, you are definitely the poster I was warning him about

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        • TrumboRedux

          1 year ago

          You sound like a whiny little pansy amigo. I must have skewered you pretty good on here before…You should probably heed your own warning instead of nursing poor baby Zach. He is a big boy and doesn’t need you latching him onto your chest everytime he sticks his foot in his mouth.

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        • spooky

          1 year ago

          Hahaha, look at him. Trumbo tries calling others trolls yet he’s always freaking out. Time for your meds little buddy

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        • TrumboRedux

          1 year ago

          Lol Always freaking out? Uh huh ok. Dude I am pretty bored with this now..It was a nice chat but I am gonna finish watching the Sandlot and plan dinner. And of course take my anti-psychotics as you so kindly reminded me. Can’t wait till our next chat <3

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        • TrumboRedux

          1 year ago

          Davey, aren’t you the guy who posts like 50 “deferral” jokes on a daily basis? I think you should try a bit of introspection. I’ve tried muting you as well (after you posted your 500th deferral joke) to no avail. See what I have to deal with now? Your opinion is not welcome with me my good lad. Shoo shoo and have a good day. You are interupting my movie!!

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        • TrumboRedux

          1 year ago

          Yes yes fine fine. You win. Now PLEASE let me finish my movie!!! I gotta rewind 10mins now!! Benny is about to meet The Babe in his dream. It’s my favorite part!

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        • TrumboRedux

          1 year ago

          Dumbo is the elephant! I have never heard of “The Swarm.” And if you don’t know about Benny and The Babe, they are from “The Sandlot.” A requisite movie for any aspiring baseball fan.

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        • TrumboRedux

          1 year ago

          They make TV’s that big?!?!? I’m actually watching it on one of those portable 2inchers. Like the one Michael Douglas was watching in the restaurant in “Wall Street.” It has an AUX hookup, so yes, I have that wired to the VCR. And I found a half eaten bag of chips on the ground outside earlier. A few bugs but no big deal. So I am snacking on those. And the pruno is almost ready. So yeah it’s a real party over here amigo.

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        • TrumboRedux

          1 year ago

          I never wanted to scrap man. I really thought Darragh would not post something like that intentionally. And I tried to explain myself and then the tide turned. No big deal though. I normally just shoot the breeze with my pals on here and not monopolize the threads. I come in peace. Most of the time.

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        • TrumboRedux

          1 year ago

          Never heard of “Sugar” but am ALWAYS looking for new baseball movies! I’ll check it out! I lied, I actually have a real size TV with streaming so I can probably find it.

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        • TrumboRedux

          1 year ago

          Yeah those are cool. I really liked the documentary on Miguel Sano like 8 years ago and they had a good one on HBO a while back called “Bad Hombres” about guys trying to make one of the pro teams in Mexico.

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        • Braves_saints_celts

          1 year ago

          Trumbo, me and you have had a few nice baseball chats on here, although very brief, and we aren’t close like you and clip, and some others but you are a real cool guy to talk baseball with. Always some guy on here trying to stir the pot and make something bigger than it should be. I personally enjoy your baseball input. Keep it up man, and ignore the trolls, way to many of them on here!

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        • Rick Wilkins

          1 year ago

          You don’t have pals, troll. No one likes you. Probably not even your family.

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        • TrumboRedux

          1 year ago

          Zach, I accept your apology and hope your weekend is going swell. Hope the Cubs sign Belli for you today!

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  18. Tyson’s Pet Tiger

    1 year ago

    good luck to the dodger legend, charlie culberson.

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  19. Bob Sacamano 310

    1 year ago

    I didn’t realize he only had 1 AB. Pretty awesome he got a hit in it lol

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    • TrumboRedux

      1 year ago

      He did it for Archie Graham!

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  20. PaulyMidwest

    1 year ago

    Hope he makes it. Would be a great story for a good dude.

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  21. Rsox

    1 year ago

    How hard does he throw? Does it register on the radar gun? Could be a “Doc Wingate” type of reliever

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    • oldgfan

      1 year ago

      You could read the article maybe if you want to know .

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    • Prospectnvstr

      1 year ago

      Rsox: How about ACTUALLY READING the article BEFORE you comment? It PLAINLY says it.

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    • DroppedThirdStrike

      1 year ago

      I’m betting he probably, most likely, going by his utility profile, subtracting for age and wear and tear, that he throws in the, I don’t know, maybe the 93.1-93.7 mph range.
      Best guess

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  22. Outfieldflyrule??

    1 year ago

    No chance of leading anywhere but hey, someone needs to cover minor league innings, right?

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  23. PhanaticDuck26

    1 year ago

    Bro is going to extreme lengths to prove that he’s not Dansby Swanson.

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    • TrumboRedux

      1 year ago

      LOL!!

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  24. Cedi

    1 year ago

    Great for him, I hope he is successful!

    Although the definition of “has gone well” when referring to his previous pitching experience is a tad suspect.

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  25. Citizen1

    1 year ago

    Culberson is really determined to be in that Braves lineup. Hope Snitker and AA let him play.

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  26. TheDayMILBDied

    1 year ago

    Hopefully he has more luck then Ben Davis had.

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  27. Bart Harley Jarvis

    1 year ago

    AA is playing 21 dimensional chess.

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  28. Braves Butt-Head

    1 year ago

    It’s a gimmick to sell tickets in Gwinnett he can sign autographs and come in for mop up duty .

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    • bravesfan1976

      1 year ago

      Not true at all. He was brought in 4th inning with a 2-0 lead to relieve Waldrep on 09/23. They are taking this seriously.

      Waldrep
      4.1 4 0 0 3 5 0 0.00
      Culberson
      0.2 1 0 0 0 1 0 4.91

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  29. Chuck from Uniontown

    1 year ago

    I suddenly wish MLBTR was around for the Michael Jordan days. Comments would’ve been lit.

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    • acoss13

      1 year ago

      Jordan goes 0 for 4, but no one looks as good striking out as His Airness!

      Maybe something like that?

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  30. THEY LIVE!!!

    1 year ago

    who was the guy who pitched with both hands?

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    • TrumboRedux

      1 year ago

      Jim Abbott..?

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      • THEY LIVE!!!

        1 year ago

        Pat Venditte, was the pitcher who pitched both left and right.

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        • phenomenalajs

          1 year ago

          Correct. He had to declare which arm he was using before a switch hitter got to choose which side of the plate.

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      • PutPeteinthehall

        1 year ago

        Lmfao. That being said he was a helluva of an athlete. Better that almost anyone would be with both hands. Hope he’s well!

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  31. bravesfan79

    1 year ago

    Good for him, he’s always been a team player, and an awesome clubhouse presence.

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  32. Jesse Chavez enthusiast

    1 year ago

    Well I mean, he’s thrown 94mph on the mound before so why not?

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  33. soxshortstop

    1 year ago

    Red Sox need a starter.

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    • LonnieB

      1 year ago

      Charlie C could pencil in at number 3 for the Sox right now right?

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  34. nowayjose18

    1 year ago

    Anthony Gose was able to do it and came out well before TJ. Culberson has a shot to do the same and excel

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    • CityofChampions

      1 year ago

      It also took Gose 4 years to finally work his way into being a low leverage reliever.

      They like Charlie enough to let him do it but this isn’t going anywhere.

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      • phenomenalajs

        1 year ago

        If he could develop a knuckler, he could have a renaissance like RA Dickey did.

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  35. ervin_magic_johnson

    1 year ago

    For the love of the game!

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  36. This one belongs to the Reds

    1 year ago

    Hope he isn’t the walk-the-bases-loaded, strike-out-the-side pitcher I was when I tried it.

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  37. User 1855579867

    1 year ago

    Why not. And learn the knuckler while at it.

    Reply
  38. Cohn Joppolella

    1 year ago

    Dude has no chill.

    Reply
  39. drdback

    1 year ago

    Wish Charlie the best in his endeavors and love for the game of baseball.

    1
    Reply
  40. LonnieB

    1 year ago

    Get it Charlie!!!

    Reply
  41. LonnieB

    1 year ago

    Charlie M and Charlie C out the pen! Give me Tyler Matzek 2.0.

    Reply
  42. Non Roster Invitee

    1 year ago

    Jason Lane tried this.

    Reply
  43. Grasscutter

    1 year ago

    Whatever happens Culberson will debut against the Nationals and get a save in a Mets series.

    Reply
  44. dopt

    1 year ago

    He still been a good player. At least he gets to keep playing before he has to work like a normal
    Person.

    Reply
  45. LordD99

    1 year ago

    Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

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