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Latest On Diamond Sports Group Bankruptcy

By Anthony Franco | January 11, 2024 at 10:31pm CDT

Major League Baseball and Diamond Sports Group are continuing discussions about the broadcasting conglomerate’s ongoing bankruptcy. A hearing initially scheduled for Wednesday morning was delayed to Friday, January 19, according to Evan Drellich of the Athletic.

That suggests MLB and representatives for Diamond feel there’s still something to be gained from talks. At the same time, it moves ever closer towards Opening Day without a firm resolution for teams whose local broadcasting deals run through the Bally Sports networks.

As recently as last season, Diamond’s Bally Sports RSNs carried in-market broadcasts for 14 teams. The struggling corporation dropped its contracts with the Padres and Diamondbacks midseason, leading MLB to take over local broadcasts for those franchises. Bally’s contract with the Twins ran its course at the end of the 2023 season.

That presently leaves 11 teams* who have deals with Diamond for in-market broadcasting in 2024. However, Diamond has suggested it could abandon its contracts with the Guardians and Rangers this offseason unless the terms of those deals are renegotiated. Meanwhile, Drellich reports that Diamond and MLB are in discussions about a possible contract to carry Twins’ games for another season.

It is unclear if Diamond will operate in any capacity after the ’24 campaign. The Wall Street Journal reported last month the company was in discussions with Amazon about potentially selling streaming rights for a short-term influx of cash that could help keep Diamond afloat.

However, Diamond only holds streaming rights for five of the 11 teams with which it has a TV deal. MLB has been reluctant to provide further streaming opportunities. The New York Post’s Josh Kosman reported on Monday that MLB shot down discussions between Diamond and Amazon — potentially with an eye towards negotiating a separate streaming deal with Amazon directly.

* Those clubs are the Angels, Braves, Brewers, Cardinals, Guardians, Marlins, Rangers, Rays, Reds, Royals, and Tigers.

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  1. bravesfan

    1 year ago

    I don’t like Bally… it’s just bad tv across the board. Amazon and Apple actually produces quite a good product when they have games. I’d be a pretty big fan of Apple taking over. I’d gladly pay the subscription

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    • Diggydugler

      1 year ago

      Until the games are blacked out…

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      • goosie83

        1 year ago

        The blackouts would be over. Use your brain before posting

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    • Manfred’s playing with the balls

      1 year ago

      Apple is pretty bad with games too. I love looking at how beautiful Katie Nolan is, but I have to mute every Apple TV broadcast

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      • mazbilleroski

        1 year ago

        True. I listened to their all female broadcast team for one game. Had to mute as well

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    • User 3044878754

      1 year ago

      Oh come on . Rob Manfred is a certified idiot allowing this imbalance of revenue streams affect competive balance amongst franchises. He is not operating in the best interests for baseball, to say the least!!!!!

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    • Very Barry

      1 year ago

      Professional sports is no different than any other business. A complete financial washout is what is needed, so that prices can become what they really are.

      The money is drying up. Drip. Drip. Drip. Every time somebody cuts the cord. Comcast spends insane $$$$ buying politicians. Why? Because one piece of Federal Government action to force them into allowing customers to only pay for the channels they actually want would completely wreck their revenue model, and in turn the professional and college sports revenue model.

      Let’s tell the truth. Gambling is what is generating significant revenue, and the only thing bringing in new fans. Remember when it was taboo? Many people “discovered” baseball only because they gamble on the games. Baseball is a gamblers dream. They Play Every Day! Great statistical information to analyze. A whole lot of people didn’t give a damn about baseball or the players, until it became legal in their state to gamble on it.

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      • Seamaholic

        1 year ago

        Baseball revenue was the highest it’s ever been in 2023.

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        • Very Barry

          1 year ago

          The real money is media rights. Fans are filling the seats. They are jacking up all the prices. The level of play has declined. Rule changes are made primarily to try and generate revenue. Faster games hope for more fans. NBA used rules to eliminate the traditional big man. They generate significant revenue from selling the stats and live stats that the apps run on.

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        • kripes-brewers

          1 year ago

          Don’t forget gambling. That’s where the money is.

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        • Franklin Nitty

          1 year ago

          Yet ask a casual fan to name 10 players in MLB that do not play for their local team.

          Reply
        • Shadow_Banned

          1 year ago

          Everyone’s jumping on the we hate shadow banned ban wagoned.

          If you’re okay with your team perpetually sucking, that’s fine.

          Go Dodgers!

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  2. John Kappel

    1 year ago

    Do you guys know which of the 5 or if the 11 they have the streaming rights to? I assume that if it were bigger markets, the revenue could be a negotiating lever. If it were, say the Braves, Cardinals, Rangers, Tigers, and Angels or something like that. Those markets gave national appeal

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    • showmebb

      1 year ago

      Pretty sure the Cards are one of the five. I’m in the Cards market and I’ve seen offers to subscribe to Bally streaming for games. But it was too expensive as I recall.

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    • HalosHeavenJJ

      1 year ago

      I watch Angels games on a Bally’s app when I’m at my office.

      Not sure if that means anything or not.

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      • AngelsFan1968

        1 year ago

        I also watch Angels games on the Bally’s app when not at home. Whether it’s on the app or cable, it’s the same broadcast with the teams announcers. I watch them all.
        I’ve watched a couple of Angels games that were steamed on Apple & Peacock (because they weren’t available on Bally’s) and the announcers were horrible, imo. I’d much rather listen to a teams local announcers than any national announcer.

        For what is worth.

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        • chalk73

          1 year ago

          I agree, I would rather watch Gubie on Ballys than anyone on Apple.

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        • AngelsFan1968

          1 year ago

          Gubie is awesome.

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      • vikingbluejay67

        1 year ago

        Pretty sure it means you watching the game instead of working. Haha.

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    • GoGreen

      1 year ago

      Pretty sure they’ve got the Rangers. I’ve been blacked out for years. They also black out the Astros games in my area.

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    • stymeedone

      1 year ago

      Bally just started streaming Tiger games last year, mid season.

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    • ham77

      1 year ago

      The Rays are one of them I believe.

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  3. ohyeadam

    1 year ago

    END BLACKOUTS

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  4. AL B DAMNED

    1 year ago

    YES, END STUPID ASS BLACKOUTS, NOW!!!!
    I’M NOT RENEWING MY MLB-TV SUBSCRIPTION..
    BECAUSE..I CAN’T WATCH “MY” TEAM PLAY!!!!

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    • drprofsps

      1 year ago

      MLB TV is only great when you move out of state and still follow your old team. They black out all local teams which makes zero sense.

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      • Boxscore

        1 year ago

        MLB local broadcasting has always been a s**t show cos of blackouts. And they wonder why ratings keep falling…

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        • websoulsurfer

          1 year ago

          Blackouts are because of the RSNs. In each city where the RSN has gone belly up, you are able to buy MLB.tv single team packages that are not blacked out locally.

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    • websoulsurfer

      1 year ago

      In any city where DSG or other RSN’s like WSD go away, you will be able to use MLB.tv to stream your team’s games locally without a blackout. Just like you can with the Padres

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    • Murphy NFLD

      1 year ago

      Black out are so stupid if you pay for MLB NETWORK why are MLB GAMES BLACKED OUT dumb AF

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      • BaseballisLife

        1 year ago

        Because the RSNs own the streaming rights.

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  5. VegasSDfan

    1 year ago

    I used to love FSSD. I guess now you can stream Padres games. The writing is on the wall, Diamond Sports is done..

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    • GoGreen

      1 year ago

      I miss when Josh Lewin used to be the TV personality for the Rangers. I think he still does Charger games. I’ve always wondered if he ever did any Padres games

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  6. HalosHeavenJJ

    1 year ago

    Diamond is done.

    The economic model of baseball is broken outside of a few mega teams. And even the carriers of those teams are feeling the cord cutting.

    MLB has needed to act more like the other three majors for a long time. This might force them to do so.

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    • CardsFan57

      1 year ago

      I agree it’s overdue for MLB to take over all media rights and share the revenue.

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      • tstats

        1 year ago

        Sharing all streaming revenue is unfair to teams who work to get fans to buy their package. MLB already skims the top earners to redistribute.

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        • stymeedone

          1 year ago

          No. What’s unfair is that NY teams have a market that is 7X larger than the market for Kansas City. That’s what allows them to have the higher payroll. If you think its because they “work” harder, please list what NY does that KC does not do, to sell their package?

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        • Seamaholic

          1 year ago

          They’re top earners only because they have the biggest markets.

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      • drprofsps

        1 year ago

        Wait you want every team to have the same income from TV, the big market teams wouldn’t be able to pay all their deferrals. Fair wages for all, that’s insane!!!

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        • bkbk

          1 year ago

          Why?

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        • CardsFan57

          1 year ago

          Because the NFL and NBA started making far more by doing it.

          Reply
  7. Yankee Clipper

    1 year ago

    MLB constantly cuts its nose off to spite its face. According to news sources, Amazon attempted to buy all the streaming rights from Bally’s (DSG), but MLB denied the deal “because Amazon wanted streaming rights for more than one year.” Seriously, Manfred? MLB leadership cannot get out of its own way sometimes.

    nypost.com/2024/01/08/business/major-league-baseba…

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    • Yankee Clipper

      1 year ago

      It didn’t save my edit, but the quote was “MLB denied the deal because Amazon wanted streaming rights for more than a year.” As you read above, MLB wants to cut out DSG to negotiate directly with Amazon.

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      • acoss13

        1 year ago

        Lord Manfred can’t get off his high horse and get with the times.

        Blackouts on the MLB TV service is why I ended mine. I’m not paying MLB TV on top of a stupid Fubi or whatever it’s called subscription just so I can watch Cubs games.

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      • stymeedone

        1 year ago

        If Bally sells the rights, MLB doesn’t make any additional money. Bally only has the rights while their contracts are in effect. Amazon is unlikely to get more than one year deal from Bally.

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    • Very Barry

      1 year ago

      It’s a lot more complicated. Diamond went bankrupt because they were not taking in enough money from cable subscribers to cover what they had agreed to pay teams for the media rights. Cable is no longer a cash cow. Every time somebody cuts the cord, and stops subscribing to cable, the cable company is no longer paying them the agreed to monthly rate (carriage fee) per subscriber. ESPN gets more than $8 from EVERY cable subscriber each month. ESPN2 gets something like $4.50 per subscriber. Streaming is NOT nearly as lucrative. Less money means less willingness to share the pie. The teams impacted by Diamond bankruptcy will ALL ultimately see less television revenue because the cable model is imploding, and streaming doesn’t produce as much revenue.

      The cable model produces revenue 12 months per year. You can’t just offer an annual subscription for streaming. You have to have monthly plans. Monthly plans get cancelled with the season ends, or if the team is bad get cancelled in-season. The cable model also produces revenue from EVERY cable subscriber regardless of whether or not you watch a particular channel. The 80-year old grandma, who subscribes to cable, but doesn’t watch ESPN, is still forking over $8 per month to ESPN and $4.50 to ESPN2, and .50 to History Channel regardless of whether you actually turn to the channel, or even turn on the television. Streaming Does Not Do This!!!! Streaming only produces revenue from the person who signs up to stream. The cable money pours in at the same level in the off season as it does when games are actually being played. The streaming money mostly stops. A significantly less amount of revenue will be generated. It is also price sensitive.

      Diamond, ESPN and everybody else have way overpaid for media rights. Overpaying for media rights is why player salaries are so high. Professional Sports is in a media rights bubble that is about to pop. You will ultimately see player salaries plummet compared to what they are being paid now. Ohtani is gonna get paid nearly $500k per game to be a DH. The NBA plays 82 regular season games. SuperMax contracts will begin paying more than $60 million per year. Some guys will be getting close to $1 million per game. Yet the NBA has to resort to gimmicks like an In-Season Tournament to get the players and fans interested in Regular Season games. It’s a bubble!

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      • Ranger Danger19

        1 year ago

        I wish it was just a sports bubble. I think everything is about to pop

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        • Boxscore

          1 year ago

          Yup it’s called “The Great Reset”

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        • stymeedone

          1 year ago

          Try using Clearasol.

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        • Seamaholic

          1 year ago

          The economy is absolutely thriving.

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          The economy is absolutely thriving.
          ===========================
          It’s not. We ran a $2T deficit in 2023. When the deficits run out, the thriving will run out.

          It’s the equivalent of adding $6k to your credit card debt every year. You’ll have a slightly better standard of living than your neighbor, but it won’t last forever.

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      • Cleon Jones

        1 year ago

        Great analysis!
        MLB should offer odds on whether or not you’re right. Wagers accepted through Balley!

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      • Murphy NFLD

        1 year ago

        In the nhl every team spend withing 5% or so of the 82.5M cap there highest paid players right now are 10-15M per season with only a hand full over that 10M plenty close to it but just under tho. Anyway they okay 82 games per year and some how 3-5 MLB teams with double the home games spend less per year then NHL clubs its unreal IMO.

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    • CardsFan57

      1 year ago

      MLB wants the Bally middle man gone so they can contract directly with the streaming services.

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  8. Citizen1

    1 year ago

    Isn’t Bally sports part of the conglomerate of Bally gaming and Bally casinos?
    Come on braves put them back on TBS!

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    • layventsky

      1 year ago

      No, Bally just owns the naming rights. The stations themselves are owned by Sinclair and operated by Diamond.

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  9. slydevil

    1 year ago

    This is a good look at corporate greed and lies. A company offers tons of money and when they can’t pay they blame others.

    People at Sinclair (which surprisingly is
    Never mentioned) and Diamond are never held accountable despite doing tons of harm and no good. A kid steals a soda and police arrest him, you steal millions and cost hundreds of jobs… but nothing.

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    • For Love of the Game

      1 year ago

      It’s called “bankruptcy,” you ignorant socialist. Disney bought 21st Century Fox, but sold the regional sports business to Sinclair/Diamond Sports Group. It turned out to be the top of the market. DSG can no longer pay interest on its debt and filed for bankruptcy. There’s no “greed and lies,” just a failed business plan. That’s why we have bankruptcy courts.

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      • Very Barry

        1 year ago

        DSG knew 100% they were overpaying for the media rights. Cable cutting isn’t a recent development. They overpaid like everybody else with the hope that they would be one of the last ones standing because “live sports” is the only thing that has maintained a consistent audience. All involved are using “live sports” to drive high prices and revenue.

        The owners and players have benefitted greatly while the quality of play in ALL professional sports has declined. The overpayment for media rights is why ALL the franchises are way OVERVALUED. Why else do you think Mark Cuban and Michael Jordan sold?

        In the NBA, the players are getting half of ALL of the basketball-related revenue. There are fewer than 500 players in the NBA. They are splitting half of all the media rights money among themselves. LeBron and Chris Paul led a movement that pushed most of that money to the “best” players. A SuperMax gets you paid 35% of the salary cap.

        It’s Greed and Lies. They had to borrow the money to OVERPAY for media rights they knew they were overpaying for. In an environment where cord cutters were killing their revenue. In an era we all knew was headed to streaming. That they knew didn’t have a built-in way to screw customers the way that cable does.

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          It is simply a business model. In the ’90s, tech companies borrowed billions and billions. A lot went bankrupt. And some turned into the next Amazon.

          FWIW, this happens every day. Even today, companies are trying to buy a footprint in EVs, solar panels, etc, hoping the market explodes. Some are going bankrupt as we speak.

          Same with AI. It pays to play, but not everyone wins.

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  10. Braves_saints_celts

    1 year ago

    In my household we don’t have cable. I have an Amazon prime, the Hulu, Disney plus, and ESPN Plus bundle, peacock, and some other streaming services, and all together I pay less than any of my local, spectrum, dish, or DirecTV cable services. It’s part of the times that we live in to stream. I don’t see why mlb, and Manfred can’t get their crap together, and either sign a contract with one of these streaming companies, or make their own streaming service, with a month to month payment system like these other companies. They are a multi billion dollar business and they can definitely do something like that, without the cable bull crap, and with out over charging for mlb tv, that half the time you can’t even watch games. If any one wants a little secret, download dofu sports. It’s a sports streaming app and every single major league baseball, NFL, NBA, NHL, NCAA basketball and football, plus other sports games and teams are broadcasted for absolutely free, just watch a few ads. Sometimes their streams get closed out, but they literally have another one up and running not even one minute after the previous one ended. That’s how I never miss a single game. I just watched the NCAA national football championship without having direct access to ESPN. Only downside is that you can only download on your phone, tablet, and some laptops. *I watch my games from dofu on my laptop, and tablet.*
    *Sidenote* ESPN Plus and ESPN are two separate entities. I only have access to ESPN Plus, so therefore I cannot watch the main things that are being played on ESPN.

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    • Very Barry

      1 year ago

      It is only part of the “times we live in to stream” because we allow them to! You should be able to go into the App Store, download History Channel, ESPN or any other “channel” to stream. Pay the cost of each you intend to use. Not for every damn channel being offered. After Covid, people started cutting streaming services. Now they have people putting together “streaming bundles” of their own rather than the cable tv bundle. The “bundle” is only a way to charge you an excessive amount of money. You should only be paying for the channels you actually watch. They bundle them with tiers to keep you paying ridiculous amounts of money.

      They are currently getting you used to bundling and paying ridiculous amounts of money in an attempt to get the streaming revenue on par with the cable cash cow.

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    • websoulsurfer

      1 year ago

      MLB has the best streaming services and technology in sports. If you are streaming, they would much rather have you subscribing to their services.

      In markets like San Diego and Phoenix you could buy a single team package that was not blacked out locally after DSG defaulted. More will be doing so this season. MLB prefers that to signing with another streaming service unless that streaming service pays through the nose for the team’s broadcast rights.

      The problem with the RSN model was that they tried to get you and I to pay for not just the teams we wanted to see, but also 20 hours per day of garbage programming that could not be supported by advertising.

      RSN’s could support the cost of paying one or even 3 teams, but not the cost of supporting the other 21 hours per day when the sporting events are not on TV. Since most leagues don’t overlap seasons by much, even in towns with 3 major sports on those RSN’s that is a recipe for disaster.

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      • Very Barry

        1 year ago

        Streaming does NOT have a built-in way to screw over customers that cable does. Without that, the revenue is NOT there.

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        • websoulsurfer

          1 year ago

          Yes. Yes it is. The Padres and Diamondbacks proved that last season after DSG defaulted on payments to them.

          In just a few weeks the Padres sold 250,000 single-team MLB streaming packages packages that brought in $4 million in June. They added more as the season went on and in 4 months made nearly $20 million from that source alone.

          They also sold their broadcast directly to all the cable, satellite, and streaming (FUBO) providers that used to carry Ballys SD. They even increased their TV market share by 2 million TV households.

          Manfred was smiling and happy when he announced at the 2022 Winter Meetings that the RSNs were likely to go belly up. Why was he smiling? Because he knew that the RSN’s would no longer control MLB’s ability to sell streaming packages with no local black out. That meant MORE revenue because the market has shifted away from the RSN model and people that didn’t want to pay for Cox or Spectrum or DIRECTV would still fork over $19.99 per month if they got to watch all their Padres games. He was right. They did. More will in 2024.

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    • wreckage

      1 year ago

      I use IPTV or streamwire. It costs me $200 a year to get something like 13000 live channels internationally, ALL pro sports games (NHL center ice package, NFL GameDay, NBA, MLB, MLS, ect), PPV’s, about 3000 24/7 channels dedicated to individual shows/movies, VOD for most shows/movies you can think of. What the TV service providers are providing is a joke. If an IPTV provider can figure it out and serve us for such lower prices so can the networks. Maybe not at the IPTV rates, but at a low enough rate that it doesn’t make it worth it for IPTV providers to risk it. I literally haven’t missed 1 single game I wanted to see in about 2 years thanks to it. No local blackouts, Occasional crash, but its usually fixed relatively quickly and 9/10 I can find it somewhere else within their guide relatively quickly.

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    • JoeBrady

      1 year ago

      I don’t see why mlb, and Manfred can’t get their crap together, and either sign a contract with one of these streaming companies, or make their own streaming service, with a month to month payment system like these other companies.
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      I’d bet that this is exactly where we are headed. I think part of what we are seeing is the MLB attempt to consolidate the industry.

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    • dano62

      1 year ago

      Then why is dofu demanding my credit card info when I sign up? Sounds like a shell game to me…

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  11. websoulsurfer

    1 year ago

    MLB didn’t take over broadcasts or the broadcast rights for the Padres.

    ALL they did was take over broadcast PRODUCTION. They had the EQUIPMENT to do the actual broadcasts. The Padres still own their rights and have partnered with MLB on the production.

    Its an important distinction. One that journalists should really know and make in the interest of getting it right.

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  12. Manfred’s playing with the balls

    1 year ago

    Cable is dying and MLB is losing viewers because they black out the mlbtv package. These guys are the so greedy they’re killing the number of fans to sign big $ deals that end in bankruptcy.
    They’re not that intelligent to not see this coming or they’re so greedy they dont care

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    • websoulsurfer

      1 year ago

      MLB had an increase in viewership in the US last year. Even bigger if you include the absolute explosion of viewership internationally.

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      • squattinghen

        1 year ago

        That just seems hard to believe. I am sure the numbers back it up though. Problem is here in TX I have been a Rangers fan my entire life. I subscribe to YouTube TV and have for years, since it was first released here. We had Fox Sports Southwest, and it was $35 a month. Price has since doubled, and we lost Fox Sports/Ballys. Me, along with my family no longer get to watch Ranger games unless they are nationally televised or on Peacock/Apple TV. Kids are missing out, not growing up with your home sports team available to watch, is only going to lose the future fans.

        Most of the people I talk to are in the same situation unless they have cable. The Bally’s streaming plan does not include Ranger games.

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        • websoulsurfer

          1 year ago

          Where people are viewing has changed. MLB.tv is now the 3rd largest streaming service in the world.

          If Ballys is gone, then you will have the opportunity to watch Rangers games by buying a single-team MLB.tv package that is not blacked out locally and see all the Rangers games.

          We did in SD. They did in Phoenix. You will in Dallas metro.

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    • stymeedone

      1 year ago

      MLB sold the local rights. That’s why they black it out.

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    • drasco036

      1 year ago

      My biggest concern is MLB potentially working out a deal with Amazon and what that would look like.

      Whenever a team plays on Apple, YouTube, ESPN etc. that is blacked out on the MLB.tv app. So if MLB negotiates a team deal with, let’s say the Braves, does that mean all those games are going to be blacked out across the MLB app? Or is that why Baseball shot down the Amazon and Bally negotiations?

      I’m sure baseball would love to add another streaming revenue stream but it cannot be at the expense of their streaming service.

      Lastly, every MLB team gets about 100 million a year from the leagues deals with their various providers. I don’t think teams that are not spending can really argue all that much about their DSG revenue falling through being the reason they cannot spend.

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      • squattinghen

        1 year ago

        I would love it if someone took the games over without blackouts.

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        • websoulsurfer

          1 year ago

          In each city where the RSN has backed out, you can now buy a single team MLB.tv package that is not blacked out.

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    • JoeBrady

      1 year ago

      they’re killing the number of fans
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      I thought revenue was at an all-time high?

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  13. The Saber-toothed Superfife

    1 year ago

    Well, MAYBE, JUST MAYBE,

    IF 1/2 the league WASN’T TANKING more people would want to watch.
    I am not going to pay Bally to watch Chris Illich pocket big bucks while the TIGERS TANK.
    And play against other tankers….and then a couple (too few) of team that actually “have a window of opportunity ”
    Screw that!
    IVY LEAGUE strategy ruined baseball.

    HOW.ABOUT ALL TEAMS ACTUALLY TRYING TO WIN????

    BEYOND IVY LEAGUE COMPREHENSION?

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    • stymeedone

      1 year ago

      Interesting take since the Tigers will be favored by some pendants to win their division.

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      • The Saber-toothed Superfife

        1 year ago

        So?
        This is first time in a decade the Tigers are even trying to win?
        And…. tell me…excacty…
        How hard are they trying?
        Or…..
        Is it by default?
        Because, there are 4 other owners…..laughing?

        Bally has an argument. The product they bought, IS NOT THE PRODUCT BEING DELIVERED.

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        • The Saber-toothed Superfife

          1 year ago

          I assume you mean ,”pundits”, and did NOT attend an Ivy League school with Mr. Harris.

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        • Very Barry

          1 year ago

          It’s by default! White Sox are rebuilding (not spending money) and they get to play a bunch of division games against teams doing the same thing.

          You are correct …. The product they bought is not what is being delivered.

          How does that product look in August???? How does it look for a team not in the playoff race???? Minor league team on the field??? What’s next? Adding another a couple of more wild card slots???

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        • stymeedone

          1 year ago

          Autocorrected. Oops.

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        • stymeedone

          1 year ago

          But that is not Bally’s argument. Its cable cutting. In fact, the Tigers are not one of the contracts they are trying to get out of early. I guess Detroit didn’t get the best deal from them.

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        • The Saber-toothed Superfife

          1 year ago

          Like facts matter…..

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  14. The Saber-toothed Superfife

    1 year ago

    THE IVY LEAGUE
    HAS RUINED
    THE MAJOR LEAGUE.

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  15. The Saber-toothed Superfife

    1 year ago

    Well, as it turns out,
    Not all that many people want to watch a sport were more than half the teams don’t even try….. and 2-3 teams have all the $ and power……

    Not very exciting.

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  16. Windowpane

    1 year ago

    Manfred should have implemented a moratorium on free agent signings until the tv contracts had been settled for all teams so every team knew how much money they had to spend. Unfair advantage was thus gained by those teams that had stable tv money.

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    • drasco036

      1 year ago

      Yeah I’m sure the players would have went for that.

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      • Windowpane

        1 year ago

        I’m sure they would. More competition for their services.

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    • This one belongs to the Reds

      1 year ago

      Well, Manfred is the large markets boy, so you expect too much.

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    • 920kodiak

      1 year ago

      MASN hasn’t settled their dispute dating back 5 years, let alone at present.

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  17. drasco036

    1 year ago

    Not really, look at the list, half the teams have already spent, the other half don’t spend regardless. Aside from the Twins, who are cutting salary during a competitive window, the tv deals haven’t effected much.
    It’s also worth noting every team gets around 100 million from the league from their various deals. If a team is saying it’s not spending because of the diamond deal, it’s a bold face lie.

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    • This one belongs to the Reds

      1 year ago

      Only a large market apologist with large local TV money flows would have no idea how the rest of baseball teams have to operate.

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      • drasco036

        1 year ago

        Keep crying about your poorly ran marketing campaigns and cash flow.
        The Reds have no excuse, they are a legacy team, like the Cardinals that does an an absolutely horrendous job marketing their team. I don’t see the Cardinals fan complaining about their market size, nor do I see them shying away from major free agent signings, extensions or trades.

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        • This one belongs to the Reds

          1 year ago

          You display your ignorance of everything outside your little bubble with every post.

          The Reds drew two million fans last season despite that horrendous marketing you claim they have.

          What they and 18 other teams don’t have is the triple digit millions local TV income that the large markets enjoy.

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        • drasco036

          1 year ago

          Look I’m sorry you were born with a small market. You clearly have a serious case or market envy but not everyone has the same size market and that is okay. A lot of people think market size doesn’t matter.

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          Market size is a fact of life. There is a 0% chance that the Reds will generate the revenue that NY or LA does. They don’t have a fraction of the population, nor do they have a fraction of the corporate HQs., nor do their populace have nearly the same income.

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        • This one belongs to the Reds

          1 year ago

          It is a fact of life in orher sports as well. The difference is ALL TV income is divided equally, there are no separate local TV deals, no RSN fiasco.

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        • Cleon Jones

          1 year ago

          Yup. There are reasons the NFL is exponentially more popular than MLB. Free accessibility to most games on media, and equivalency of opportunity to build roster regardless of market size, are two of the biggest. MLB is dumpster fire in comparison.

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    • squattinghen

      1 year ago

      I think the Rangers are a bit frozen right now with the uncertainty of what might change income wise. My guess is they want Monty, but wanted to see what comes out of this first.

      Might be if they have to take a hit from this income, they pull a Dodgers type contract deal for Monty.

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      • drasco036

        1 year ago

        I think the Rangers should ride with what they have a make adjustments mid-season but that is just me. I thought the Cubs made a mistake on two levels after winning their World Series, first was trading Soler for Davis in his walk year and second was shipping out a massive haul for Quintana.
        I thought it would have been wiser to trade Soler for a prospect or a lesser bullpen guy with more years of control and not trade for Quintana at all. I never liked the spending the Cubs did with their rotation.

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  18. luvochka

    1 year ago

    Unfortunate the article doesn’t include a list of the affected teams, or at the very least a link to that information. Easy enough to get I guess, but it would have been helpful.

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  19. This one belongs to the Reds

    1 year ago

    Sad it is January before MLB HQ in NYC even begins to address this, while half of baseball teams have been hamstrung from spending more due to this uncertainty.

    Even more proof that Manfred is the large markets boy.

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  20. waldfee

    1 year ago

    Bally Sports or PBS, I’m quite confident that my preferred Internet services will find the best available gratuitous high-definition streams for me again, should the necessity arise.

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    • Steve(shs22)

      1 year ago

      But that doesn’t work for everyone only those who live out of state to preferred team.

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  21. highflyballintorightfield

    1 year ago

    The weird thing is that Spectrum Cable didn’t really execute its plans for distributing Dodgers games but thankfully still manages to pay the rights fees to the Dodgers. Key to the offseason, right there.

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  22. Rightout

    1 year ago

    My Dad is pregnant and he is now a she…I’m so confused…I miss the good old days when men were men and sports on tv was free….

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    • waldfee

      1 year ago

      Its still free if you know how to connect your TV to a computer via HDMI cable.

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  23. LambchoP

    1 year ago

    Can we get this settled please so our off-season can start…?

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  24. 920kodiak

    1 year ago

    A big hurdle to the streaming model is that several MLB teams own the RSNs. Particularly, in the lucrative northeast.

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  25. 619MetroFriars

    1 year ago

    As popular as MLB is…..can someone please explain to me how these stupid hosting companies go “Bankrupt”?! Why? How?

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  26. Sky14

    1 year ago

    I don’t understand the Twins hard on to renew with Bally for next year. Cable is dead, move to streaming so fans can enjoy the games.

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  27. stymeedone

    1 year ago

    Cable doesn’t have the viewers it had when the contracts were signed, but no streaming service covers the same number of households cable did. Even going to streaming is a large cut in revenue.

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  28. jb10000lakes

    1 year ago

    Looks like Balley’s will be out.
    nexttv.com/news/diamond-survives-bankruptcy-signs-…

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