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Orioles Have Shown Interest In Michael Lorenzen

By Darragh McDonald | January 25, 2024 at 3:05pm CDT

The Orioles have been connected to various starting pitching targets all winter and that search is ongoing. General manager Mike Elias said so himself today, telling reporters such as Andy Kostka of The Baltimore Banner. Elias hasn’t ruled out a free agent addition but says the club’s farm system makes a trade more likely. In terms of free agent pursuits, Jon Morosi of MLB.com lists Michael Lorenzen as one they have shown interest in.

Pitching is a clear target area of the club’s roster. They are loaded with position players but the rotation is lacking in certainty. Kyle Gibson and Jack Flaherty each became free agents after last season and have since signed elsewhere.

Both Kyle Bradish and Grayson Rodriguez finished the year strong, but the former has less than two years of big league experience and the latter less than one. John Means will be in the mix but he hasn’t pitched much over the past two years due to Tommy John surgery. Dean Kremer should be in the back end somewhere after posting a 4.12 earned run average last year. Cole Irvin could be a factor but he struggled last year, getting moved to the bullpen and the minors throughout the year. Guys like Tyler Wells, Bruce Zimmermann or Cade Povich could factor in as well. Elias also said that DL Hall is still viewed as a starter in the long term, per Kostka, but may remain in the bullpen for the short term.

For a club that just won 101 games and is looking to compete again this year, there’s clearly room for upgrades there. They should have the ability to make any kind of move they want, due to their payroll and organizational situations. MLBTR’s Contract Tracker shows that they haven’t given a free agent a multi-year deal since signing Alex Cobb in 2018. That means their future ledger is wide open and their 2024 payroll is only at $81MM, per Roster Resource. That’s a jump from last year’s Opening Day figure but still bottom three in the league for this year, ahead of only the Athletics and Pirates.

They also have a stacked farm system, considered by many to be the strongest in the league. With that combination of an elite farm system and a clean payroll slate, the options are theoretically endless. Throughout the winter, they have been connected to all sorts of arms. That includes one of the top free agents in Aaron Nola, though he subsequently re-signed with the Phillies. It also includes the lower tiers of free agency, with guys like James Paxton and Domingo Germán having been connected to the O’s, though Paxton is now reportedly in agreement with the Dodgers. The Orioles have also been interested in trade candidates like Dylan Cease and Corbin Burnes.

Despite all of that interest, they have yet to pull the trigger on any move to address their rotation, with pitchers and catchers set to report to Spring Training in less than three weeks. Elias continues to insist that a trade is a likely path forward, though it remains to be seen if they can get anything done. The asking price on Cease is reportedly very high, with the White Sox asking for multiple top prospects. The possibility of the Brewers trading Burnes has seemingly faded as the offseason has progressed.

On the free agent side of things, Lorenzen is apparently another name they have considered. The 32-year-old spent much of his career as a reliever with the Reds but has been pursuing a return to starting work since reaching free agency. He signed with the Angels in 2022 and was able to make 18 starts and log 97 2/3 innings. His 4.24 ERA was passable in that time. His 20.7% strikeout rate and 10.7% walk rate were a bit worse than average, but his 50.2% ground ball rate was strong.

That wasn’t astounding production but a step in the right director in terms of workload. In 2023, he seemed to take another step forward after signing with the Tigers. Through midseason, he had already made 18 starts and thrown 105 2/3 innings. He had dropped his ERA to 3.58 and lowered his walk rate to 6.5%. He was traded to the Phillies and kept the good times rolling for a while. He allowed two earned runs over eight innings in his first start as a Phillie and then threw a no-hitter in his second.

From that point, things went off the rails. Lorenzen was shelled for 27 earned runs in his final 30 1/3 innings, getting bumped to the bullpen in the process. It’s fair to wonder if he simply ran out of gas. After years of working out of the bullpen, he pushed himself to almost 100 innings in 2022. After the no-hitter, which took him 124 pitches, he was at 122 2/3 innings in 2023 with a 3.23 ERA. The rough finish added almost a full run to his ERA, pushing it to 4.18 for the year overall.

Arguably, another year of pushing himself in terms of innings could lessen the late-season drop-off. At the start of the offseason, MLBTR predicted Lorenzen for a two-year, $22MM deal. His market has been fairly quiet this winter but he reportedly held a showcase for interested clubs earlier this week.

Elsewhere in Oriole news, manager Brandon Hyde says that righty Dillon Tate is healthy and looked “unbelievable” recently, per Kostka. Tate didn’t pitch in the majors in 2023, as he was diagnosed with a forearm/flexor strain in November of 2022 and wasn’t able to get healthy last year. He went on multiple rehab assignments but was never returned to the big leagues. When he was last healthy, he threw 73 2/3 innings for the O’s in 2022 with a 3.05 ERA, 20.5% strikeout rate, 5.5% walk rate and 57.4% ground ball rate. If he is back in good form, it could be a boon for the bullpen.

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  1. LordD99

    1 year ago

    Waiting to sign the desperate players at low cost?

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    • acoss13

      1 year ago

      Lorenzen makes sense for the Orioles and their desire to not spend huge amounts of money on pitching. Plus he’s a good bounceback candidate.

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      • Curly Was The Smart Stooge

        1 year ago

        20 years ago a .500 win/loss percentage and a 4.00 era was considered below average, today its a catch…

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        • Ra

          1 year ago

          A 4.00 ERA was a 110 ERA+ in 2003. It was a bigger “catch” 20 years ago than now.

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      • Bob Sacamano 310

        1 year ago

        “Bounce back candidate” isn’t really what a team who just won 101 games and got bounced in the first round of the playoffs should be aiming for

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        • Murphy NFLD

          1 year ago

          I cant agree more, but these guys are ahead of schedule so the smart more IMO would be to let them play out this season before adding big time FAs, plus isnt next years class better anyway

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        • cmessick2080

          1 year ago

          Very true but they are aiming for someone who can bounce back while giving their prospects time to develop.

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      • Motor City Beach Bum

        1 year ago

        He pitched really well for the Tigers and his first two games for the Phillies. I think the innings got to him note than anything. Worth the gamble.

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        • CurtBlefary

          1 year ago

          What got to him was the 124 pitches in his no-hitter. He was never the same afterwards,

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    • Crash_n_burn

      1 year ago

      That’s the Baltimore way these last few years, do nothing all off season, then at the end sign a player or two when the price tag drops.
      They probably want a player or two but say we can wait a few more weeks and get another million or two price drop.

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      • Ra

        1 year ago

        The Oriole signed Kimbrel for $13MM on December 6th.
        They signed Kyle Gibson on Dec. 5, 2022 for $10MM and Adam Frazier for $8MM on Dec. 15.
        The facts prove your clam false.

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  2. Rocker49

    1 year ago

    Kinda surprised this wasn’t the offseason the O’s signed a big name or traded for a big name or two. The front office is following what they did in Houston up to this point but now that they’re a good team they need to add some established talent to go with all the young talent.
    Once they got the Astros into contention they added to the roster, but they’re not doing that with the O’s yet.

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    • scruffmcgruff

      1 year ago

      This is what I’ve been thinking about, I’m obviously not in the know of any of what Elias/Mejdal does but they must be seeing an opportunity if they’re willing to wait or something. Best to trust these guys though, they’ve been there and done that, does get hard to wait as a fan and you see the success they had last year though.

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    • 2012orioles

      1 year ago

      Angelos is a clown. I’m not surprised. I will never get over Jack Flaherty and the amount of fans that were okay with that. We as orioles fans have Stockholm sydndrome. This is not how teams operate. D-backs are about to sign Joc. That’s a big play move. Risky, but you know what, you have the money so why not go for it. There’s no salary cap. Orioles are nowhere near hitting the luxury tax thresholds. Atleast extend Gunnar and Adley. Very frustrating if they blow this window

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      • Blackpink in the area

        1 year ago

        I am a Cardinals fan and anytime someone suggested trading Orioles prospects guys like Strowman and Floch would get defensive and say how great they were.

        There is a time for prospects. And then there is a time to win. And it’s the Orioles time to win. You have to understand that as a fan and as a GM and owner.

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        • CityofChampions

          1 year ago

          Joel’s back!

          Prospects are fine to trade. There’s blocked ones. I said there’s no urgency to do it before the deadline. Team is good enough to play it out until July and see how it shakes out. Great if they swing it now but no one should lose their mind if it happens in July.

          Rangers signed Degrom but then went out and got Scherzer & Monty after he went down. Patience is fine when your team is already there.

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        • Blackpink in the area

          1 year ago

          Team wasn’t good enough. Got Flaherty he sucked and the team fell flat in the postseason while the Rangers who went and got the better Cardinals starter plus a reliever won it all.

          But hey tell me again how Rom and Prieto are no good…..

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        • CityofChampions

          1 year ago

          I’m confused because Rom & Prieto aren’t very good. I doubt either one of them makes an impact in the big leagues.

          Jordan Montgomery wouldn’t have changed our outcome last season unfortunately. I expect you’ll see a bigger move at the deadline if it doesn’t occur this off-season.

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        • Blackpink in the area

          1 year ago

          They aren’t any good. But you shouldn’t be telling me that and be proud about it when Flaherty flaked out on you and hurt your teams chances of postseason success.

          Montgomery wouldn’t have changed your team outcome???? Really???

          We will see what happens. I expected the Orioles to make a legit deadline deal last year instead of hop9ng Flaherty figured it out.

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        • CityofChampions

          1 year ago

          The entire rotation was pitching past their career innings limit aside from Kyle gibson.

          Did you watch what happened against Texas? Our starters were gassed. This was the first year of the window opening. They’ve now got experience and innings under the belt. Last season was a massive success despite your own narrative.

          If the Cards wanted a pitching prospect—the O’s did not have one as good as Tekoah Roby anyway.

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        • Blackpink in the area

          1 year ago

          Did Montgomery look gassed??? Heck the Rangers went and got Montgomery and Scherzer both. And now they are the champs and you are sitting here telling me how great the Orioles are.

          The Orioles could have traded one of those gassed starters you were referring to. Would have made a ton of sense for both teams. Not that dude with the man bun but someone.

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        • CityofChampions

          1 year ago

          Lmao yeah? Bradish or G-Rod for 2 months of Montgomery…..

          Nonsense. Montgomery wasn’t going to pitch every game. G-Rod and Bradish obviously weren’t at the point to be top postseason starters.

          It’s over and done. Flaherty didn’t work out. Obviously wish that one didn’t happen but that’s baseball. Rays were in on him as well but we ended up w/ him. The D’Backs added no starters to a bad rotation and made it to the Ws. That’s baseball.

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        • Blackpink in the area

          1 year ago

          Man bun probably would have been the guy to be dealt regardless of my feelings for dudes with women’s hairdos

          DBacks got Sewald.

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        • CityofChampions

          1 year ago

          The D’Backs #3 starter had an era close to 6 & ended up Being a dog.

          Even if we pretend that Kremer for Monty was a done deal. Then what? You’re still relying on Bradish & Grod to make any noise. Then you’re going to have start Kyle Gibson in a 7 game series.

          It just wasn’t there. We needed everything to go right and it didn’t. One of the youngest rosters in baseball is coming back together. O’s are in a great spot and have plenty of flexibility.

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        • Blackpink in the area

          1 year ago

          How many games did the Rangers use their 4th starter for in the playoffs? I think it was 1.

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        • CityofChampions

          1 year ago

          Scherzer & Heaney both had 3 starts.

          Eovaldi had 6. Montgomery 5. They used 4 pitchers and all those guys were not at their career innings ceiling. Orioles would’ve needed to use at least 4 if not 5.

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        • Blackpink in the area

          1 year ago

          Heaney pitched 11 innings total

          Orioles had a much better bullpen

          It’s ok. There is always next year

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      • skinsfandfw

        1 year ago

        2012 – “ Angelos is a clown.”

        100% CORRECT!!

        I’m glad someone else said it. I always bring it up and post about he and his Napoleon complex and shady business dealings but people always hit me back with “stop with the tired rhetoric” like they feel like his actions as an owner are defensible.

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      • scruffmcgruff

        1 year ago

        Extending some young guys definitely should be on the agenda, but I gotta believe that Elias and company have something up their sleeves. Whether it be a trade or free agency something has to be in the pipeline. Timely hitting and defense is this teams strength, pitching will always be paramount to success and the O’s have at least shown themselves to be adept at finding quality relief pitching. But at some point you need to find top quality starters, Means, Bradish, Rodriguez, Kremer, Wells, all have degrees of unproven to proven and injury prone or skeptical of lasting through a typical seasons workload.

        A move for a “guaranteed” 30 starts top quality starter is definitely something I would be all for but it really depends on Elias/Mejdal on how they value their prospect depth. And when you look at it there are a lot of prospects that are pushing for playing time at the major league level and not nearly enough opportunity for all of them.

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      • CityofChampions

        1 year ago

        I’m amazed that you’re considering Joc pederson a big play move.

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    • Big whiffa

      1 year ago

      I think they get cease before the season starts. White sox want to move him before season and balt has the most news with prospects to spare

      Cowser Ortiz hall and povich is prob close to getting it done. All 4 of those dudes would get plenty of playing time next season on the south side

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      • Blackpink in the area

        1 year ago

        Cowser and Ortiz alone would probably get it done.

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        • CityofChampions

          1 year ago

          If that’s what the Sox are looking for. We don’t have the pitching prospects to include. Povich is the top by a good bit. A guy like McDermott or Johnson would be an ancillary piece.

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        • cwsOverhaul

          1 year ago

          BStrow……they’ll want a high floor headliner Westburg for 2B woes instead of boom or bust guy. Article earlier in week confirmed.
          2nd piece…..Either Ortiz for SS glove OR Beavers hoping eventual RF soon (big hole for WSox)
          Last: 1 of ancillary pitchers you mentioned and a lottery ticket arm that intrigues WSox new pitching gurus
          No one getting fleeced. Just fair win-win

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        • Ra

          1 year ago

          Who is the “boom or bust” guy?

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    • HEHEHATE

      1 year ago

      I think a lot of this had to do with the behind the scenes stuff on ownership’s end. Too much uncertainty within the family at the time really held them back from making impactful changes necessary on the roster.

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      • Os1995

        1 year ago

        Yeah I agree. I think that the plan was to load up on prospects to try to make the team more appealing to sell but they hit the competitive window earlier than expected. I bet ownership is hesitant to enter into any big contracts that could drive selling price down even if it comes at the expense of the teams on field success.

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    • Ra

      1 year ago

      It’s still the offseason. They may still make a trade or sign a pitcher before ST starts and/or before OD.

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  3. Mynameisnoname

    1 year ago

    They could be the Braves of the AL with their core if only they’d bless that beautiful ballpark with some starting pitching.

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    • gr81t2

      1 year ago

      Except that the braves give their young guys long contracts. We don’t see Angelos allowing that for some twisted reason.

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    • Ra

      1 year ago

      They need to sign Gunnar long-term to start that process.

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  4. Jake Biggar

    1 year ago

    Lol the big splash O’s have been waiting for in the rotation. Seriously the O’s have way too many position players/prospects for all to get playing time. Need to deal some for pitching. It reared its head in the playoffs and they’ve done nothing to address it. You spend around young cheap players, not penny pinch. Either that or extend Gunnar and Adley now if you’re not going to spend. Looks like neither will happen

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    • Fred Lingenfelser

      1 year ago

      I think the bigger issue in the playoffs was having so many young guys not used to having those 5 days off. It killed their momentum, and they couldn’t shake the rust off.

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  5. thickiedon

    1 year ago

    So the O’s have 12 options to start?!?

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  6. LouWhitakerHOF

    1 year ago

    Only $81m payroll. Bottom 3 in the league. WOW!! You would think the Orioles would splurge on a couple of good FAs. What are the Orioles waiting for? Increase that payroll a bit.

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    • C Yards Jeff

      1 year ago

      Since late 2018 FO has been waiting for owner John Angelos to give go ahead to spend and also to sign players to multiple year deals.

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    • gr81t2

      1 year ago

      Or at least extend Gunnar and Adley. Something

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      • Ra

        1 year ago

        Gunnar DEFINITELY!!!

        Adley, no. QO him for a pick and let the Yankers pay for the decline years.

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        • CityofChampions

          1 year ago

          I’d be perfectly fine extending Adley before he’s a FA at 29. Realmuto has been rock solid into his 30’s.

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        • Ra

          1 year ago

          I would prefer to play the percentages rather than the anecdote. Probably, Adley will move to 1B and be a below average hitter for the position.

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  7. AM21

    1 year ago

    This has been the MO of the Orioles for ages. Build, get pretty damn good, come up an obtainable player or two short, sell off or let everyone walk. Repeat.

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    • Ra

      1 year ago

      “For ages?” No. It’s happened one single time in franchise history: 2018.

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      • AM21

        1 year ago

        Check again.

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        • AM21

          1 year ago

          Ok Oswald.

          Smugness fits you well.

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        • AM21

          1 year ago

          You’re wrong.

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        • Ra

          1 year ago

          Prove it, big mouth. Oh, I forgot, you can’t because you were just making shtt up.

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        • Ra

          1 year ago

          Your comment was specious.
          /ˈspēSHəs/
          adjective
          superficially plausible, but actually wrong.

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  8. James Midway

    1 year ago

    I was hoping the Pads would give him a shot. Good move by the O’s.

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  9. Mickey Solis

    1 year ago

    There should be a gag order on this website writing articles that start with “X team has shown interest in Y player” when we know full well every single free agent is ending up with the Dodgers anyway.

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  10. hoof hearted

    1 year ago

    Lorenzen is not an upgrade

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  11. DroppedThirdStrike

    1 year ago

    I think any panic by the O’s is a little premature. They arrived ahead of schedule and honestly are still developing. I think any consequential move should be made around the All-Star break after evaluating what the team needs really are.
    Any move made now had better make sense in that it should make good financial sense or be for a very short term.
    Extending Adley should be a big priority.

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    • CityofChampions

      1 year ago

      I hope we can hammer out some extensions. That’d be the best case scenario. I think Adley is going to get the richest deal for a C since mauer at this point:

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    • Ra

      1 year ago

      Extending Gunnar is priority #1. Extending Adley would likely be a poor investment. By the time he reaches Free agency, he’ll be moving to 1B.

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      • MacGromit

        1 year ago

        Gunnar is a Boras client. The team’s turnaround started when Adley was promoted. It’s not a binary problem.

        I’m sure you didn’t mean to come off the way you did but “poor investment”? I think John Angelos garbage thinking is in your head. Your comment validates his comments about not being able to extend players without dramatically increasing ticket prices. You can’t believe the crying poor act.

        Both could be extended and the payroll would still be nowhere near luxury tax threshold.

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        • Ra

          1 year ago

          Catchers age poorly. Adley will be 30 when he reaches free agency. That’s post-peak for all players, well past peak for Catchers. And a 30 yo. 1b with Mark Grace power is not a player you want to invest $20-25MM per year for.

          I say the Orioles must extend Gunnar. This belies your claim that my “comment validates (Angelos’) comments about not being able to extend players.” It is the exact opposite of your claim about me. I can’t help that you misinterpreted my comment, but it is 100% that you did based on the words I used.

          John Angelos has never informed my thinking. I do not believe his poor-mouthing. Ridiculous to claim he has any impact over my thought process. The Orioles have been one of baseball’s most profitable teams these past four years. Very low payroll will do that.

          I get that you love Adley. A lot of fans do. But from a return on investment standpoint, extending him is objectively going to provide poor ROI. Sure “both (Gunnar and Adley) could be extended,” but it would be smarter investing in Holliday, Mayo and Basallo. A “Face of the Franchise” investment in Adley will prevent the team from maximizing wins.

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        • CityofChampions

          1 year ago

          It depends on the years required. I don’t want to give Adley an 11 year deal but if we could grab a few extra years with an extension—I’m all for it. I don’t believe he’ll be a 1B that quickly.

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        • Ra

          1 year ago

          If resources are limited, I would prioritize Gunnar. Then Holliday and Basallo. Possibly Mayo. As much as I love GrOD Almighty, I wouldn’t extend him or any pitcher, either.

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  12. Devlsh

    1 year ago

    Raises the floor (in terms of depth) but not the ceiling.

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    • CityofChampions

      1 year ago

      Depends what Lorenzen the O’s get. The tigers lorenzen 3.6 ERA/3.8 FIP is an upgrade for the back end of the rotation. Not the front end guy we could really use obviously.

      I like giving Hall a shot to win the 5th slot. Though I think he’s just going to be a really good reliever at this point.

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  13. skinsfandfw

    1 year ago

    I saw some video of Tate a few weeks ago and he was almost hitting triple digits. Be great to have him back in the mix.

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    • MacGromit

      1 year ago

      Honestly, that’s the best O’s news I’ve heard this offseason. We’ll see what happens, I think most people agree they have some needs but throwing out armchair GM trades won’t make them happen even if it makes us feel better. I need to stop too.

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      • skinsfandfw

        1 year ago

        Here’s the link to the video:

        x.com/alexfast8/status/1739049662093332984?s=46�…

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  14. DolphLundgren

    1 year ago

    So happy to hear Tate is healthy, he’s gonna be huge this year!

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  15. scromer007

    1 year ago

    Elias has a good philosophy in that he drafts and build position players and then trade and sign pitchers mlb ready but the only problem is Angelos will not allow him to do that. I think he has been handcuffed by Angelo’s 100% and not able to truely build the team the way he wants and again that’s by trading for and or signing free agent pitchers

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  16. King Floch

    1 year ago

    Meh, I think I would rather just give Hall the final spot in the rotation if we’re looking at Lorenzen-tier guys now. If Elias was serious about still seeing him as a starter long-term when he said it a few months ago, then just skip the mediocre veteran inning eater FA signing this year and see if Hall can carry his bullpen success at the end of last year into the rotation this year.

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    • CityofChampions

      1 year ago

      I fear that hall isn’t built up enough to pitch all year in the rotation. I think he’s gonna wind up like a Josh Hder-lite and be too good in the pen to go back into the rotation.

      I could see the argument for a 6 man rotation if Hall is given a shot.

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      • Os1995

        1 year ago

        I like the idea of a 6 man rotation. Tyler Wells is a good starter until his arm falls off halfway through the year. I hope being in a 6 man rotation let’s first half Wells go the whole season.

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        • CityofChampions

          1 year ago

          I think Wells pitched over his head in the first half though. He’s not 2nd half bad but I don’t think he’s truly first half good either. I think he’s about a Kremer level guy. He is a solid reliever if he’s not starting though.

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        • Os1995

          1 year ago

          I think Wells has shown that he can pitch at a high level. He had an even better 1st half in 2022 than he did in 2023 (3.09 vs 3.19). After the first half however he seems to collapse which is why I think he may need to be in a 6 man rotation to succeed as a starter. His body just might not be able to handle a starters workload.

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        • CityofChampions

          1 year ago

          Hope that would be it. I think he’s been fortunate in the first half to be as effective as he has been.. that’s not to say I don’t think he’s a solid pitcher. I just think he’s closer to Kremer than the top 2.

          Wearing out after 85 and 100 innings is tough. But like I said, you have a solid reliever floor if he can’t handle the workload.

          Hall & Wells do make sense to be together in a 6 man rotation. Or possibly they become tag team starters this year… IDK but I don’t believe DL will be able to handle a traditional 5 man starter role this year.

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  17. HEHEHATE

    1 year ago

    Just wrote on this. Completely agree I’m taking lorenzen over German if I’m the os in a heartbeat

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    • CityofChampions

      1 year ago

      Yeah. I would imagine the price points will be very different though. German is probably looking at a few million bucks. Lorenzen probably gets $12-13

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      • HEHEHATE

        1 year ago

        I think that’s where the Bauer argument comes into play. I see German anywhere from a 2-6. I think Bauer would take 5 to get his foot in the door again over riding the bus. lorenzen around 7-8 and syndergarrd at 7-10. If a lot of these average guys at best are asking for or around ten it only makes the argument much more compelling for Trevor. I just think you can’t be a full on contender taking on the hit from the gate which is why I’ve been saying he should be pitching in Pittsburgh this season. Even if you fall flat out you can trade him. We did it with Chapman what’s stopping us here? Cause I’m hearing mixed signals from the organization but I’m not hearing it’s a definitive no.

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        • CityofChampions

          1 year ago

          I’m for kicking the tires on Bauer personally. I just don’t believe the O’s will do it. I don’t think Baltimore is a particularly bad spot if Bauer does get another shot. O’s fans aren’t exactly rabid dogs.

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        • Ra

          1 year ago

          Bauer does not fit the player profile Elias embraces. A holy-roller like Adam Frazier is who Elias likes to target.

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        • CityofChampions

          1 year ago

          He traded for loser Jack Flaherty. I don’t think we’ll do it but he’s clearly the best starter for the $$$ due to the off field stuff.

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        • Ra

          1 year ago

          Not sure if Bauer is even an MLB caliber pitcher at this stage. Regardless, I think he is way outside the personality profile they would entertain acquiring.

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      • CurtBlefary

        1 year ago

        Elias said today, the German interest never happened! Just as I expected!

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        • Ra

          1 year ago

          Good

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  18. Lefty_Orioles_Fan

    1 year ago

    This rumor sucks!!!
    Is there anyone else out there that we can talk to?

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  19. MacGromit

    1 year ago

    @lefty
    I think if you still have your receipt, you can return this rumor and exchange it for one about the O’s trading the entire farm for Glenn Davis.

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  20. BillGiles

    1 year ago

    Not a fan. Another one that is not coming back to the Phillies.

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    • BillGiles

      1 year ago

      That I am happy is not coming back, I meant

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  21. outinleftfield

    1 year ago

    He is one that I was hoping to see Arte allow Minasian be in on. Short contract. Not too expensive. Can pinch hit if team in a bind.

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  22. 2differentslidertradandnontrad

    1 year ago

    Lorenzen throws the Roger Beshens football slider so he should fit in with the Orioles another team with an assembly line of Roger Beshens Football Slider pitchers.

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