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Red Sox Remain Open To Offers On Jansen, Martin, Schreiber

By Anthony Franco | February 13, 2024 at 8:58pm CDT

Kenley Jansen has been the subject of trade speculation for a large portion of the offseason. With the Red Sox’s payroll seemingly pushing against ownership’s spending limit, there’s sense in looking to move the four-time All-Star closer. Alex Speier of the Boston Globe wrote this evening that the Sox remain in contact with other teams about a possible Jansen trade before Opening Day.

He isn’t the only Boston reliever who could find himself on the move. MassLive’s Christopher Smith reports that the Sox have also expressed to other clubs they’re willing to field offers on right-handers Chris Martin and John Schreiber.

Of that trio, Jansen probably has the lowest trade value. That’s more a reflection of his contract than an indictment of his performance. Jansen is set for a $16MM salary in the second season of the two-year free agent deal which he signed last winter. That’s a lofty price tag — especially at a point in the offseason in which many teams could be near their own payroll ceilings — but he remains a very effective late-game arm.

Jansen locked down 29 of 33 save opportunities a year ago. He led the National League with 41 saves for the Braves two seasons back. He has allowed between three and four earned runs per nine in each of the past two seasons, including a 3.63 mark over 44 2/3 innings for Boston.

While that is the second-highest ERA of his excellent career, it remains better than average. That’s also the case for last season’s 27.7% strikeout rate, a personal low that nevertheless topped the league mark for relievers by four percentage points. The 36-year-old found some extra life on his trademark cutter. Jansen averaged 94.3 MPH on the pitch, his highest velocity since 2014.

If Boston wanted to maximize the prospect return, they could offer to pay down some portion of Jansen’s salary. That’s a strategy they took in the Chris Sale deal, sending $17MM to the Braves to convince Atlanta to relinquish Vaughn Grissom. Smith reports that they’re less keen to do so with Jansen, writing that they’ve been reluctant to include cash to facilitate a trade.

That wouldn’t be as significant an obstacle regarding Martin (and certainly not with Schreiber). The former, like Jansen, signed a two-year free agent deal last offseason. While Jansen had a solid first season at Fenway Park, Martin was downright excellent. He turned in a microscopic 1.05 ERA over 51 1/3 innings. His 23.1% strikeout rate was solid and he kept the ball on the ground at a 51% clip. Martin continues to boast perhaps the best control of any reliever in the game. He walked just 4% of opponents a year ago and hasn’t handed out free passes at even a 5% rate in any of the last six seasons.

Boston owes Martin a $7.5MM salary for the upcoming campaign. He’s also set to receive the final $1.5MM of a $4MM signing bonus in June. As shown on MLBTR’s Contract Tracker, that’s a little below the $9-11MM annual salaries secured this offseason by high-end setup relievers like Robert Stephenson, Héctor Neris, Jordan Hicks and Reynaldo López (the final two of whom will compete for rotation spots). Martin turns 38 in June, but the one-year commitment minimizes long-term downside. His fastball averaged 95.7 MPH last season, right in line with where it has sat throughout his career.

Schreiber, who turns 30 next month, is in a different spot contractually. He’s under arbitration control for three seasons. He and the Sox agreed to a modest $1.175MM salary for the upcoming campaign. The righty was a revelation two years ago, turning in a 2.22 ERA while fanning nearly 29% of opponents. His ’23 campaign wasn’t quite as impressive. Schreiber missed two months early in the year with a teres major strain in his throwing shoulder. He returned in July but worked with sightly diminished velocity relative to the prior season.

In 46 2/3 frames, he turned in a 3.86 ERA. Schreiber punched out a solid 26% of opponents, although his walk rate spiked from 7.4% to an alarming 12.3% clip. While his low arm angle remained a very tough look for right-handed hitters, lefty batters teed off for a .300/.456/.533 line in 79 plate appearances.

Moving Schrieber certainly wouldn’t be about finances. Considering offers on him (or Martin, to a lesser extent) seems more of a broad openness by chief baseball officer Craig Breslow and the front office to consider opportunities that could balance the roster. Boston is still looking for right-handed hitting outfield help and could use additional certainty out of the rotation.

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  1. Dorothy_Mantooth

    1 year ago

    I’m sure Montgomery and Boras are sick of hearing Boston say “let us move Jansen first and then we’ll come back to you”. Once again, they are going to miss out on a piece (Monty) that could make them markedly better, but FSG apparently doesn’t have the money to fund a competitive team in Boston now that they’ve dumped $2B into professional golf.

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    • mlb fan

      1 year ago

      “Dumped 2B into professional gold”….Good point. I had already forgotten about that, but it was actually 3 Billion.

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      • GASoxFan

        1 year ago

        It’s probably closer to 1.25b…

        FSG led the negotiations, but, top FSG owners also invested their personal outside money into the FSG share, and, big money guys like Cohen among others bought in too, not to mention that Theo brought along from Arctos.

        Still a TON of money though.

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    • Cora the Destroya

      1 year ago

      I think at his price tag, Monty is out of the question either way. You know the struggle is real when you’re trying to move a pitcher who has three more years and only costs 1.175 million.

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      • smkelly1970

        1 year ago

        ya never know…maybe Monty is open to a 2+ year minor league deal.
        think positive! (rolls eyes)

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    • Cora the Destroya

      1 year ago

      Also, if Sox really wanted Monty, they’d sign him by now and figure out the payroll cutting later. There’s no way you can expect to cut payroll to make furure deals happen. You can’t just assume plan B is gonna work if plan A doesn’t happen.

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    • Blackpink in the area

      1 year ago

      I am sure you are making stuff up in your head. The Red Sox aren’t dumping Jansen to sign Montgomery.

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      • Cora the Destroya

        1 year ago

        It was reported previously that the Sox had to move talent in order to sign free agents, so he’s not wrong

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        • Blackpink in the area

          1 year ago

          We will see what happens. I don’t think the Red Sox are signing anyone of significance.

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        • Cora the Destroya

          1 year ago

          I don’t think Sox will sign anyone either

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          It was reported previously that the Sox had to move talent in order to sign free agents, so he’s not wrong
          =======================
          Did Breslow say that, or was it the wild imagination of someone who gets paid by the word?

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        • Cora the Destroya

          1 year ago

          It was in reports from sports writers. Whether they are real reports or not, who knows. I’m just reporting that was said, which I find to be a bit foolish to say.

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          It was in reports from sports writers.
          ===========================
          I only bring it up because it is almost 100% certain to be wrong.

          1-I doubt anyone considers signing a $150M+ player, contingent on moving a $15M player.

          2-No player in the world waits for months to sign a contract waiting on a team to move their closer. Theoretically, maybe the RS have plans to sign Duvall, but asks his agent to not announce it for two days while they finalize a trade for Duran, or vice versa.

          But the idea that they have an informal deal with Monty pending a trade of Jansen is pretty insane.

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        • Cora the Destroya

          1 year ago

          I never said I trusted the articles, I only indicated that’s where they were posted, but those articles mentioned that it came from Breslow, so they’re either lying through their teeth or right. Other articles mentioned Breslow said trades were the way to go. It’s not been consistent.

          The truth is, nothing on Sox coverage has been consistent, and the longer the inactivity, the more people speculate.

          That being said, I doubt we sign Montgomery. We are passing up so many free agents that I doubt he’s in the mix. I’ve heard reports say Sox want to rely on the young core they have now and a right handed bat seems more imminent to management.

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      • Trollfree

        1 year ago

        Blackpink – No money needs to be cleared to get Monty but it’s still not going to happen with or without Jansen.

        Trading Jansen when a contender loses their closer makes the most sense. Otherwise, value won’t be maximized. It will be like the Mookie deal where we basically got completely screwed by the timing of the deal.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          1 year ago

          Troll, Jansen was like watching Don Stanhouse who Earl Weaver nicknamed “two pack” because of how nervous he made you closing out the game. An injury and he has no value. Personally, if an offer comes that either provides an interesting return (with a 50% pay down) or anything with a possible upside, I’d trade Jansen while they can if the team truly wants to cut payroll before making other moves. I still think Houck can be the closer.

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    • wiredrunner

      1 year ago

      Cutting payroll at a Full Throttle pace!

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    • baseballguru

      1 year ago

      Redsox Nation is BOYCOTTING EVERYTHING REDSOX until they spend accordingly on ACEs.
      Games or concessions at Fenway NO
      Games or consessions at Fenway South No
      Games or concessions at Salem Redsox No
      Games on NESN No
      Subscription to Boston Globe No
      MLB Ticket streaming services No
      Merchandise Definitely Not as at this point it’s embarrassing for Redsox Nation to wear them in competitive MLB. When you spend your time & money on a team Redsox Nation Built John Henry we will resume spending our time & money as well. Until then reap what you’ve sewn. Taking top dollars from us for little in return demonstrates your complete lack of respect for those fans & families who built this Redsox Nation & Team over 124 years and many generations. Good Day Sir

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  2. rememberthecoop

    1 year ago

    Man, the Cubs could really use a guy like Martin. And on a one-year deal. That should be right in line with what Hoyer goes for. And since Breslow came from the Cubs front office, perhaps that would make a deal with Chicago easier?

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    • deweybelongsinthehall

      1 year ago

      Only way Martin gets dealt is if the Cubs or any other team ponies up. What would your return to Boston be?

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      • HBan22

        1 year ago

        James Triantos and Caleb Kilian for Chris Martin sounds about right.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          1 year ago

          The problem with prospects is very few of us have seen them. From a quick review online, if no money from Boston was involved, I’d probably consider the deal although the pitcher is 26. Most likely neither will hit but give Jansen’s age and cost, wild cards are what would be expected back.

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  3. FletcherFan69

    1 year ago

    How could Chaim do this

    Bloom needs to sell the team or we riot

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    • mlb fan

      1 year ago

      “Bloom needs to sell”..Chaim Bloom never owned the RS and the RS have already shown him the door.

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      • RunDMC

        1 year ago

        Shhh….don’t tell ’em. Chaim got fired from the team he owns. It was a coup d’etat in Beantown.

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      • Cora the Destroya

        1 year ago

        The more and more nothing gets done this off-season, the more Bloom looks like a scapegoat who everyone is out to blame for the big guns pulling the strings.

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        • FletcherFan69

          1 year ago

          Wow. I didn’t know that. You’re telling me now for the first time

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        • JesusChryslerSuperCar

          1 year ago

          You didn’t know that? Outrageous. The fact you didn’t know that just drives home the point that bloom needs to sell the team.

          We should riot. Fun fact the Boston tea party wasn’t a revolt against British tea tax. The British actually lowered the tax so much that the price was the same as black market tea. So, those selling tea on the black market dumped it to save their illegal business. Then history just conveniently got rewritten.

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        • FletcherFan69

          1 year ago

          I can’t believe Chaim would start a traitorous rebellion against the great British Empire. This is all his fault

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          Bloom looks like a scapegoat who everyone is out to blame
          =========================
          Didn’t almost everyone assume that already?

          Maybe folks didn’t like the direction the RS took, but Bloom was brought in to bring down the payroll and build the farm. That was never going to happen without taking a hit on the field.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          1 year ago

          Exactly Joe, which is why if the team wasn’t going to reverse course and spend this year, Bloom should have been able to run the team this year.

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          As recently as 2019, we had the following spends:

          RS 243.7M
          NY 234.7M
          TO 130.6M

          Since then, we’ve had the following increases/(decreases)

          RS
          NY +61.6M
          TO +127.2

          So that’s a net plus to NYY of $79.5M, and a net plus to TO of $145M. Even with simply the $79.5M that the NYY have picked up on us, that’s enough for Snell, Monty, Clevinger & Chapman.

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        • spitfire

          1 year ago

          I’m glad bloom has gottan fired he destroyed the team n why we are in this position beginning either Mookie trade then not replacing players he let walk then never replaced or if he did it was from the sale rack at the MLB basement.

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        • Cora the Destroya

          1 year ago

          @spitfire If you could spitfire a complete sentence, I could actually understand and debate you. That’s a lot of sporadic thought.

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    • Jeff Zanghi

      1 year ago

      What!?!? lol 1st of all Chaim Bloom never owned anything… 2nd he’s already been fired as head of baseball ops……..

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  4. Cora the Destroya

    1 year ago

    Why pay to move Jansen when we only have him for a year? Might be best to bite the bullet here unless someone takes him for a bag of balls. And even then, he’s probably worth keeping until the deadline, assuming he pans out.

    I understand cutting payroll, I really do, and I was okay offloading Betts, since he would be expensive. But why do we have to push pennies for everything?

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    • Blackpink in the area

      1 year ago

      Because the Red Sox were a last place team last year and they don’t have enough money to buy a contender?

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      • deweybelongsinthehall

        1 year ago

        What I said a while back is obvious now. Henry & Co. built a conglomerate and they look at total returns and today use the Sox as a cash generator. Investments are now made based on an expected return and as what so eloquently stated, they feel the public now comes to Fenway regardless of the on-field product. Thus, they take the profits they previously put back into the club and invest it elsewhere. They paid Devers too much because of the fans’ rebellion last year. Now they realize the bandaid approach didn’t work so they brought back Theo. Time will tell if this is another short term gimmick or if he really can get Henry to change back to understand while the team is a New England institution, no one will continue to pay top prices for a hamburger when the summer still offers steak alternatives for less.

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  5. wbz41

    1 year ago

    Should have traded Devers before the extension if this is the plan. Unreal. Let’s spend the most money ever to come in last.

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    • mlb fan

      1 year ago

      I’m sorry but John Henry cannot come to the phone right now. He’s overseas watching some soccer team play.

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      • okbud

        1 year ago

        Middle eastern golf*

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    • spitfire

      1 year ago

      Oh great! Then we won’t have any player to cheer for. I adore Raffy n happy they paid him. Please don’t talk about his D consider he had inconsistency at SS.

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  6. This one belongs to the Reds

    1 year ago

    Yeah, but they want more than Matt Damon’s moon boots and one of Tom Brady’s deflated footballs.

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  7. acoss13

    1 year ago

    Since the Red Sox are punting on 2024, Hoyer should look at Martin and Jansen, wouldn’t hurt to add to the bullpen, plus Cubs won’t have to give up too much if they eat at least half of Kenley’s contract.

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    • kylegocougs

      1 year ago

      Yep, agree to take $1 more than he’s owed at the trade deadline and the Sox give him away without even looking at medicals of the prospects coming back.

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  8. olmtiant

    1 year ago

    Well if you’re gonna do it, do it right . Tear down the whole house and start with only the slab…

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    • Gwynning

      1 year ago

      I would build around Devers, Casas and whatever arms (Bello, Whitlock, etc.) and prospects (Anthony, Mayer, Teel, Rafaela, etc.) look nice. Jettison the rest for a new window that could start as soon as ’25.

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  9. just_thinkin

    1 year ago

    Ryan McKenna and Mike Baumann for Jansen.

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    • HBan22

      1 year ago

      Jansen wasn’t much better than Baumann last season. Orioles would pass on that one.

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  10. thecrocusesareinbloom

    1 year ago

    Trading Schreiber makes no sense to me at all — there’s barely salary to shed and he gives cover to other late-inning options like Houck and Whitlock in the event that Jansen and/or Martin are traded.

    Regardless, I suspect the sudden clamor around signing another outfielder may broadcast an imminent Duran trade.

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  11. xpensivewinos

    1 year ago

    Maybe the Red Sox could figure something out with the Cubs for Wesneski? The Red Sox are doing business in lab coats these days, so why not take a shot…….

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  12. BabeRuthsPiano

    1 year ago

    It’s tuff being a Red Sox fan I have loved this team since I was a kid in 1985. I hope positive news happens soon that makes me think the FO is concerned. This team is 74-88 at best with the current roster

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  13. ClevelandSteelEngines

    1 year ago

    Gonna need to pay at least a handful of Jansen’s Bill to get anything useful. But it might be worth it half way into the season, you know a firesale on relievers.

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  14. Liberalsteve

    1 year ago

    Javy Baez and a 20-25 prospect for jansen

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    • HBan22

      1 year ago

      Keep dreaming.

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  15. bighiggy

    1 year ago

    How about Dylan carlson and luken baker for scriebner. Or carlson for Jansen and 5 mil?

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  16. Jeff Zanghi

    1 year ago

    At this point the Sox should obviously sell any short term pieces for future assets/pitching prospects. It really depresses me to say that and I really can’t wrap my head around ownerships budget limits — it just doesn’t add up… highest ticket prices in league… very good TV revenue… yet payroll being blown away by teams that can’t possibly have higher revenue… but given that as a fact… there is no reason to keep Jansen and despite how much of a value and good Martin is… if we’re not going to put a competitive team on the field why keep him for 1 year? If a team will give up a legit SP prospect (don’t mean a top 100 type… a lower tier obviously… but someone with a chance at sticking in rotation) then it’s a lost season anyway so go for it. Or if a team starts to get desperate for bullpen help early in the season… pull a Royals and trade him like they did Chapman. I really can’t believe this is the state of the Red Sox but it is… so no point pretending by keeping random luxuries like elite/high-end relievers.

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  17. Wren

    1 year ago

    just know Deivy roberts is pushing for a jansen redemption reunion

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  18. Quinnap89

    1 year ago

    I know my Sox aren’t ready to win but are we literally trying to finish last? Good lord Breslow

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  19. william-2

    1 year ago

    I wonder if they are shopping all 3 if they feel they can get value. It will not be much, but we shall see. My suspicion has always been that the Red Sox were never going to attempt to compete, and that “full throttle” was always a blatant lie. They knew how many holes there were, and the cost to fix them enough to compete for a playoff spot.

    They are already poaching 3 arms from the pen to fill a rotation. If they are shopping 3 relievers that would mean the pen will be 6 short with nearly nothing of substance to replace them.

    I have gone into why it was probably the better move to tank than add players that weren’t elite or clear upgrades at the major holes they have. I think they had a fantastic opportunity to add at least one elite pitcher on a long-term contract to help a future build, but since they are falling short on that simple task also, they may as well not spend another cent anywhere and just play the prospects.

    I think telling the fans “full tank” would not have been met well by the fans, but it may have caused fans to be less upset than they are already if it was explained clearly why. Either way fans would have been pissed, but perhaps they would have kept a little good will and credibility by being honest about their own appraisal of the mess they caused.

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    • Bostonsports85

      1 year ago

      Ownership just like the news and everything else all they do is lie while their pockets get fatter !!! Plain and simple .. now with the Netflix documentary they got even more money so it baffles my mind that our Starting rotation looks like complete and utter trash .. I wouldn’t field this team in Triple A

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  20. Trollfree

    1 year ago

    Right now Boston should turn on the Blue Light and start dumping all salaries over $5MM per year.

    The core players they have are a great place to start and then take all that money and buy all-star players to fix all the holes.

    Give Devers away. Teams will pay the $30MM per year as long as you don’t ask for a prospect. Addition through subtraction. That frees up money to use on a REAL 3B that hits and can field.

    Give away Yoshida, Story, Giolito, Jansen, Martin and of course Devers.

    Clear the slate and don’t ask for anything back as long as each team agrees to pay the full salary of each player.

    Would we be worse off? NO. We would have $175MM to fill our 3B spot, our SP1 and SP2 spots, our closer spot if we don’t use someone we have and Rafaela plays SS.

    YEP think about it. $175MM to fill just a few holes.

    C – Teel in the future and our current two now
    1B – Casas
    2B – Grissom
    SS – Rafaela
    3B – TBD using the $175MM
    LF – O’Neill
    CF – Duran
    RF – Abreu
    DH – Refsnyder
    SP 1 – TBD using the $175MM
    SP2 – TBD using the $175MM
    SP3 – Bello
    SP4 – Crawford
    SP5 – Houck/Pivetta
    SP6 – Whitlock
    Relievers
    righty – Winckowki and Schreiber
    lefty – Bernadino and TBD
    Closwer – TBD or Houck/Whitlock

    Tell me we couldn’t find a 3B, SP1 and SP2 for $175MM!!!!

    The team would be better off giving away all players that cost $7.5MM or more per year.

    That would keep ownership happy and give Breslow just 3 key acquisitions and a ton of money to make them happen.

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    • Poolhalljunkies

      1 year ago

      Looks like cora is gone after 2024 as well

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      • I.M. Insane

        1 year ago

        Hopefully. Cora is awful.

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        • HBan22

          1 year ago

          Canning Cora would also be addition by subtraction. Why he was ever brought back to begin with continues to puzzle me.

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    • B dog 351

      1 year ago

      Troll: I love the logic behind that . Unfortunately the ownership would probably pocket 100 million out of the 175 million.

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      • Trollfree

        1 year ago

        B Dog – I think you are right. They would sink it into a woman’s hurling team or something.

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    • william-2

      1 year ago

      ARE YOU CRAZY!!!!!!! That is a guaranteed last place team. Just kidding. We are already a last place team. I am completely for opening up payroll completely theoretically when you have zero chance of competing at all. Not even a whiff of third place.

      There is a couple of major issues with this.

      Three years ago I posted why the Red Sox had to make a couple of moves 2 years ago, and 3 moves this off season. Why? The holes were becoming blatant 3 years ago, and anyone could look at the list of available free agents each year, the market, and see that the Red Sox had only a very few limited players they could bring in to do two things with. Fill those blatant problems, and upgrade at positions where we either have zero depth in the franchise or expiring contracts. We literally made zero moves in 3 years to accomplish either. NONE. Please do not tell me that bringing in journeyman or declining older players on 1-2 year deals was a solution to anything.

      Problem 2. At the positions we need there is a very limited amount of impact players that people would define as true impact players. Keep in mind the organization has been unwilling to make trades from their self-perceived top prospect pool. 3rd base, elite starters, great power hitters, elite lefty relievers, closers, etc. Every year you can look at the entire free agency list and see that without a major trade of prospects to bring in players from other teams, we have perhaps 1 to 2 options at any given position if lucky, perhaps 1 option at lefty reliever, and about 3 to 4 options at starter.

      Here is the major issue. Our issues tend to be the same issues when you spread it out over 30 teams. That means competition. Competition means more years and money for anyone that matters and would solve a problem. The Red Sox simply do not strike fast, and blow players away with offers. Even if you pulled off this complete dump of the team payroll and dead weight, this management would lose nearly every bidding war, and wouldn’t enter into most of them.

      Your idea is perfect if we were the Dodgers. Sorry but more bad news. Look at the projected free agents for the next couple of years.

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      • Trollfree

        1 year ago

        William – Dumping big salaries without pay downs clears a lot of money and Snell and Urias (If we are willing to employ Cora then Urias is a huge step up from him so nobody should care since nobody cares we have Cora). Buy Chapman too and this years team may not have a closer but it would be far more competitive than it is today and we would have spent less.

        Back when DD came to Boston we were in the process of losing Papi. We also had a weak pitching staff. He grabbed Price and then Sale and finally JD and things went from last to first,first and first.

        We need a GM to do the same thing. Take the young core which is a big step down from what DD inherited and use them as long term solutions and simply fill the gaps with expensive blue chip players.

        Then, we need a plan like DD had that set a specific number of years for the group assembled so the contracts all renew around the same time. That way, 2023, was DD’s planned retooling year. He would have had Betts on a LT contract, Bogey coming due and renewing with Boston, Benny being evaluated and probably replaced, Duran in CF for JBJ, Devers at DH pushing JD out the door, Casas at 1B and 2B would have been a TBD. The payroll saved on JD could have gone to Devers so his pay would have been closer to JD’s $22MM as the DH and Bogey would have been renewed at $25MM to $27MM for 3 years. The Red Sox would still be winning the AL East and the word Bloom would not be in our vocabulary except in springtime.

        Boy did Boston take a wrong turn!!!

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  21. bravesnation nc

    1 year ago

    Not going to happen, but I’d take Martin Again in that ATL bullpen.

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    • Occams_hairbrush

      1 year ago

      Pretty sure any team would take Martin,

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  22. User 4204968895

    1 year ago

    Fire sales in February are a great look

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  23. BeeCarbo

    1 year ago

    It’s a crap shoot. These players will all have greater value at the end of July, but holding onto to them risks the prospect of injury during the interim.

    Jansen and Martin are older. God knows if Cora decides to embarrass Breslow like he did Bloom by overusing both guys until their arms fall off in June.

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  24. PKCasimir

    1 year ago

    Breslow is just doing what any competent GM should be doing. He’s phoning around the league to see what kind of return he can get for players who are attractive to a contending team. This accomplishes two things. He determines what the fair market value is for his players and hopefully finds a deal that improves his team for the long term.
    All of this bloviation and heart palpitations over a GM doing this job.

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  25. filihok

    1 year ago

    MLBTR writers just cite FIP already challenge

    “In 46 2/3 frames, he turned in a 3.86 ERA. Schreiber punched out a solid 26% of opponents, although his walk rate spiked from 7.4% to an alarming 12.3% clip”

    “He has allowed between three and four earned runs per nine in each of the past two seasons, including a 3.63 mark over 44 2/3 innings for Boston.

    While that is the second-highest ERA of his excellent career, it remains better than average. That’s also the case for last season’s 27.7% strikeout rate,”

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  26. mafiabass

    1 year ago

    Why hasn’t Theo slapped some sense into this horse crap yet?

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  27. fenwayfrank

    1 year ago

    The Sox will sign another Free Agent once John Henry comes out from under his bed and cashes is some bottles and cans. Smh

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    • User 4204968895

      1 year ago

      Has he hired Kramer and Newman to take them up to Michigan yet? JH can double his money that way.

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  28. bestrong

    1 year ago

    The season is over before it begins in Boston! By advertising you want to move 3 pieces out of the bullpen before the seaon has even started is red flag. I would hold on to all 3 until the trading deadline myself. Theres no pressure for any team to offer alot now or even have a huge need right now barring a serious injury. I don’t understand what this team is doing other then tanking this season away. I thought by firing Bloom the Sox would return to their competitive ways, things look worse now. I honestly believe the Sox havent really been in on any big free agents at all, smoke and mirrors. Now everyone knows what is going on. Why would Montgomery want to sign or any other free agent? Players want to win and that isnt happening here, not for a long time. Only the desperate, cast off types will sign. Play the kids and get a high pick in the draft., I will not be watching this mess.

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    • william-2

      1 year ago

      Teams always think they have more in the tank then they actually do going into spring. They have dreams of surprise prospects, reclamation projects recapturing their glory, and younger starters making great leaps.

      This applies to nearly every single team. This is about the worst time to make trades. It is about the 1/3 mark of the season that teams realize that almost every hope they had going into spring training went down like those 4 injured starting pitchers, positional starters, and that blue chip prospect you just sent back to AAA for more seasoning.

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  29. JoeBrady

    1 year ago

    The RS would be selling high on all three, so from a BB perspective, it makes sense.

    From a business perspective, you are gutting the golden pig. TV ratings come and go, but you never want the fans to start thinking that they don’t have to go to the games. They are already off 400k from their top attendance. That has to be $40M. How much playoff money has gone out the window?

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  30. Bostonsports85

    1 year ago

    How about article should say redsox remain open to signing SP and another bat!!!!

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  31. baseballguru

    1 year ago

    Redsox Nation is BOYCOTTING EVERYTHING REDSOX until they spend accordingly on ACEs.
    Games or concessions at Fenway NO
    Games or consessions at Fenway South No
    Games or concessions at Salem Redsox No
    Games on NESN No
    Subscription to Boston Globe No
    MLB Ticket streaming services No
    Merchandise Definitely Not as at this point it’s embarrassing for Redsox Nation to wear them in competitive MLB. When you spend your time & money on a team Redsox Nation Built John Henry we will resume spending our time & money as well. Until then reap what you’ve sewn. Taking top dollars from us for little in return demonstrates your complete lack of respect for those fans & families who built this Redsox Nation & Team over 124 years and many generations. Good Day Sir

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  32. BumbleBee

    1 year ago

    Let’s all relax for a moment and remember our past.

    These last few years are nothing but a bump in the road. As if we loaded a Chevy Tahoe with four teenagers and when dropping them off in New Brunswick, asking them,politely, to drop the car off in Miami.

    I-95 is a mess in the best of times and so is a baseball season…..or two.

    Look at the Padres. Our former bestie Xander (of the 20mil/year kind) just decided to play second. Wait a sec…..isn’t that what the Sox asked?

    Let’s give the lads a chance this year.

    It will be ugly some days for sure. It will magical other evenings.

    All those in-between days is where things will happen. A young team congeals and finds a place to be and things to do. Duran, Ceddanne and Wilyer have at it, as Trevor Story rakes again, leaving Casas the job of only getting better. *cut to scene of Rafael Devers accepting the AL MVP trophy

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