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Cardinals Extend Manager Oli Marmol

By Steve Adams | March 15, 2024 at 11:55pm CDT

The Cardinals announced a two-year contract extension with manager Oli Marmol on Friday afternoon. The deal covers the 2025-26 seasons and ensured that Marmol, who had previously been slated to enter the final season of his current contract, will not operate as a lame duck.

Still just 37 years old, Marmol has managed to a 164-160 record since taking the reins following the team’s surprising dismissal of former skipper Mike Shildt. That includes a 93-69, division-winning performance in his debut managerial campaign, as well as a 71-91, last-place finish in 2023.

Marmol has spent his entire baseball career in the Cardinals organization. The Cards selected him with a sixth-round pick back in 2007, but Marmol’s minor league career lasted only four seasons before he moved into a coaching role within the system. He rose through the minor league ranks, coaching and managing at multiple stops, before being added to the Cardinals’ big league coaching staff as their first base coach for the 2017 campaign. Marmol held that job for two seasons before becoming Shildt’s bench coach for the next three years.

Marmol has, at times, drawn criticism for his handling of players. He and since-traded outfielder Tyler O’Neill clashed early last season when Marmol publicly called out O’Neill for not hustling home from third base. O’Neill took exception both to the substance of the comment as well as the public nature of the quip, suggesting that any conversation on the matter “could have been had in-house” and that the situation “should have been handled a little differently in my opinion.” Marmol also publicly stated early in the season that Willson Contreras would be removed from the starting catcher’s role — a decision that was reversed just a week later. O’Neill said in an appearance on Foul Territory earlier this year that he and Marmol grew to respect one another “at an arm’s length” and that his time with the club ended “on good terms” (video link).

Cardinals brass clearly doesn’t view last year’s disappointing results or the public spat with O’Neill as a reflection of Marmol’s ability (or lack thereof) to steer the team in the long term. He’ll now be locked up through the 2026 campaign, not only offering the team some stability but avoiding the lame-duck status that would have him routinely fielding questions and speculation about his job security throughout the upcoming season.

MLB.com’s John Denton was first to report that Marmol had signed an extension.

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  1. sean-11

    2 years ago

    What

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    • Buzzz Killington

      2 years ago

      the

      18
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      • laynestaley2002

        2 years ago

        eff

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        • CravenMoorehead

          2 years ago

          !!!!

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        • Unclemike1525

          2 years ago

          That sound you just heard was every Cardinals fan wailing in agony.

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        • drasco036

          2 years ago

          lol I just the article and had the same WTF reaction.

          This is the best off-season move that could have been made…. for the Cubs.

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        • Unclemike1525

          2 years ago

          It’s the same sound I’m going to make before I hurl if Wisdom makes the Cubs roster.

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        • drasco036

          2 years ago

          Start practicing now because unless Wisdom gets hurt, he’s going to be in the opening day line at DH.

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        • PaysonTim

          2 years ago

          As a Cubs fan, I wholeheartedly approve of this move. Cardinals fans on the other hand should be pissed.

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        • drasco036

          2 years ago

          I feel like it’s a similar situation to Ross, although a lot of fans liked Ross, I wanted to throw my phone when they extended him.

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        • jade 2

          2 years ago

          Wisdom is a 109 wRC+ hitter over the past 3 years. 78 HRs in 1,200 PAs – being paid 2.+ mil There are far worse bats being paid a lot more in the MLB.

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        • Unclemike1525

          2 years ago

          I don’t have to practice. I do it every time I see him anywhere.

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        • dad

          2 years ago

          And he’s another former Cardinal who is playing better than anyone on the Cardinals roster

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        • stymeedone

          2 years ago

          There are far better bats, too. Having someone barely above average as your DH is just sad.

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        • drasco036

          2 years ago

          And yet Wisdoms 109 wRC+ is 24 points higher than what the Cubs got out of their DH last season and that is including the OPS that was over 1.000 from none other than Patrick Wisdom when he was the DH. Wisdom also put up a 147 wRC+ in the second half.
          I don’t expect Wisdom to be a great hitter but the Cubs have done far worse. DH is a mindset and Wisdom actually has a good mindset for DH.

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        • rondon

          2 years ago

          He’s a strikeout waiting to happen and a defensive liability.

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        • drasco036

          2 years ago

          Designated Hitters don’t have to play defense…

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        • 17dizzy

          2 years ago

          219 Comments and not one of them are positive about the Marmol extension!

          (I noticed the Owners and Front Office held off on that announcement until after the Season Tickets had been on sale for 2 1/2 months. Had that announcement been made in early January—— Season Ticket sales would have been about half of what they are this month in March)

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        • Hammerin' Hank

          2 years ago

          Wisdom >> Little Nicky Madrigal

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        • 17dizzy

          2 years ago

          If or when the 2024 Cardinals season blows up as in 2023…… Do not blame the players!!!!

          The Owners, The Front Office and the Manager are currently vying for the worst Franchise in Major League Baseball history.

          They have the money and resources!!
          The question is—— Why wouldn’t the strive to be the best of the best as they were— in their Golden Eras.

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        • 17dizzy

          2 years ago

          Nolan Gorman is the Cardinals Wisdom.
          A strikeout just waiting to happen!!
          Batting right in between Goldschmidt and Arenado. Gorman is currently a rally killer when he bats in the position Marmol has him currently slotted.

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    • spudchukar

      2 years ago

      Beware of the Ides of March! Et tu Mo?

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    • 17dizzy

      2 years ago

      I’m done with my 73 year, lifetime, favorite team!! I’ll never buy any other Season Tickets!!!
      This move proves the Cardinals Owners and Front Office have no clue and no desire to be a winning championship team whatsoever.

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      • ChiWin7

        2 years ago

        I call your bluff

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      • realsox

        2 years ago

        That’s just silly, dizzy.

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        • L Francis Reves

          2 years ago

          I have been a fan of the Cards since the 6th gm of the 1964 WS, the first game that I ever attended. I saw their great times, under Devine, Whitey, and Jocketty. I thought no era could be worse than the Maxvill era. I knew that Gussie wanted a winner.

          However, our current ownership is a second generation sponge. DeWitt, Jr. is just like his dad. He doesn’t care about the fans, or the team, as long as his pockets are lined.

          He ran Jocketty out, and installed his current puppet. In turn, they’ve run LaRussa and Schildt out of town, in favor of a manager whose nose is getting browner by the day.

          They had an opportunity to build this pitching staff to a semblance of its former glory, without have to worry about the luxury tax threshold, but they couldn’t even do that.

          Now, they keep Oli, and get aced out of Cease by the Padres.

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        • SonnySteele

          2 years ago

          Well said, Francis.

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        • 17dizzy

          2 years ago

          L Francis Reves———-
          My feelings exactly!!!
          You’ve hit the nail on the head.
          With you mentioning the 64 World Series—-
          That puts us in the same age era.

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      • FrontOfficeStan

        2 years ago

        I’d rather sign another aging pitcher than extend Marmol, so I feel you on this. I’m a committed fan though and hope they do well, but yeah it is clear the front office is not serious about winning.

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      • main benjammin

        2 years ago

        You won’t be missed

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      • stymeedone

        2 years ago

        Relax. It just means they provided him with a severance package.

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    • Pads Fans

      2 years ago

      My first thoughts were

      WHAT? WHY? WTF is Mo thinking?

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    • PistolPete44

      2 years ago

      Just shows you the ignorance of MØ, and the loyalty has to the wrong people like Ollie, Dusty, and Carpenter

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    • PistolPete44

      2 years ago

      Horrible idea

      Reply
  2. laynestaley2002

    2 years ago

    Sooooooo stupid. Not deserved. He’s a freaking puppet.

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    • Garywally57

      2 years ago

      That’s what the Dewallet empire wants. He’s perfect.

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  3. Eovaldismemes

    2 years ago

    oh 🙁

    1
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  4. Larry Brown's crank

    2 years ago

    love it!…signed, Reds fan

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      2 years ago

      Larry

      Works for me,

      Cubs fan

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      • Gwynning

        2 years ago

        Here for my box seat to the MLB NL Central Spring Training 2024 Dunk Contest starring Oli Marmol and “friends”

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        • Walker4daWinn

          2 years ago

          You mean like a dunk tank with marmol on the plank. I’ll buy a ticket for this

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      • Now Yu Know

        2 years ago

        Larry, Manny,

        Looking forward to the season with Mike Shildt at the helm,

        Padres fan

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          2 years ago

          Gotta say, I like Shildt and Yadi as coaches

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        • dad

          2 years ago

          Padres made a great move

          Reply
      • johncal25

        2 years ago

        Yeah as a fellow Cubs fan I assumed if they started slow at any point this year they would pivot to Yadi. This works!

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    • mad1

      2 years ago

      Reds fans doing a lot of mouth running for a team that finished barely .500 last season and maybe one winning season in the 10 years

      Reply
      • SonnySteele

        2 years ago

        What’s the difference between optimistic and delusional?

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      • 1984wasntamanual

        2 years ago

        They were 11 games ahead of the cards.

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        • playhard9

          2 years ago

          That is exactly why they have not proven anything yet. Cardinals were just that bad.

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      • FrontOfficeStan

        2 years ago

        The reds fans know what our future looks like.

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        • This one belongs to the Reds

          2 years ago

          True plus a lot of us feel for Brewers fans coming up in the future too because we’ve been there.

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        • mad1

          2 years ago

          Yes, more .500 baseball and third place finishes!!

          Reply
        • Hammerin' Hank

          2 years ago

          Reds will be dominating with all these hot prospects.

          Reply
      • PistolPete44

        2 years ago

        What make you think they are wrong

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      • Kotton

        2 years ago

        Cope.

        Reply
  5. This one belongs to the Reds

    2 years ago

    Incoming!

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  6. aTouchOfSarcasm

    2 years ago

    Great, I hated when we made the playoffs all the time….

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  7. GareBear

    2 years ago

    Saw the notification and read Oli Marmol and figured they had fired him. Not sure I get this one

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    • Card66

      2 years ago

      Why would they fire him, he is the perfect idiot that is MO’s muppet.

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    • Card66

      2 years ago

      We could not get that lucky, DeWitts and MO will never admit that Marmol is an IDIOT.

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    • Four4fore

      2 years ago

      Managers get fired with years on their contracts all the time. All this does is take him out of lame duck status and assures him a paycheck for being a good yes man. The job is still there when Molina is ready.

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  8. Braves Butt-Head

    2 years ago

    Thank you…….

    Sincerely everyone who hates the Cardinals lol

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  9. Buzzz Killington

    2 years ago

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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  10. Gwynning

    2 years ago

    I think the brass heard all the “Fire Oli” chants and thought the fans were saying “Hire Oli”???

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    • CravenMoorehead

      2 years ago

      Idgaf about Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson I want to see Oli fight CB Bucknor 🙂

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      • Gwynning

        2 years ago

        The winner gets Tyler O’Neil!

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        • CravenMoorehead

          2 years ago

          I also want to see Wander Franco fight a Grizzly Bear

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        • Gwynning

          2 years ago

          That sounds unfair… we should make it 2 bears.

          5
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        • TheRabbitBaron

          2 years ago

          Two cubs… that’s more his taste

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        • Bucket Number Six

          2 years ago

          Only if he crosses Mama Bears’s path.

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        • sfes

          2 years ago

          This actually made me think of the South Park episode in Gwynning’s profile pic when Randy fights at Stan’s baseball games.

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        • Gwynning

          2 years ago

          “What.. is this not America?”

          Love that episode!

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    • I.M. Insane

      2 years ago

      It was actually “Hi, Rolly!”

      1
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    • MetsSchmets

      2 years ago

      I was saying Boo-urns!

      3
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    • Strunk Flugget

      2 years ago

      “Boo-urns! Boo-urns!”

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  11. carlos15

    2 years ago

    Lol, this guy is a clown

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    • Card66

      2 years ago

      That’s a polite way to put it

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  12. Mehmehmeh

    2 years ago

    From a distance (fan of AL team), this guy appears like the worst manager in baseball over a short sample. Massively underperforming roster. Silly clubhouse drama with the Contreras reversals.

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    • WillieMaysHayes24

      2 years ago

      Poor bullpen management and lineup construction. Not to mention the drama between him and Tyler O’Neill over his perceived “not hustling”

      I’m at a loss for words right now…

      He must have some unsavory pics of Mozeliak he’s got hidden away.

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      • Jabronie23

        2 years ago

        His bullpen management and lineup construction are fine. Better than Schildt

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        • Jonny5

          2 years ago

          I beg to differ. Schildt was far and away a better manager. The results speak for themselves.

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        • Jabronie23

          2 years ago

          Not really. I think you overestimate the effect managers have on winning. The players have to actually perform

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        • BradBaar

          2 years ago

          You’re a doom f’er

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        • stymeedone

          2 years ago

          I think you underestimate the effect a good manager can have on team attitude and player performance.

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        • TheRabbitBaron

          2 years ago

          They both sucked. Schildt only looks better because he’s sandwiched between Matheny and Marmol. Wouldn’t it be crazy if the Catdinals hired a manager with MANAGERIAL EXPERIENCE…. I mean the last time they did that it turned out pretty decent.

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      • Chris Sabo's Glasses

        2 years ago

        I’m as perplexed by you by the extension and hate he is still the manager. However a broken clock is right twice a day. I was at the game when O’Neill jogged around third about as slow as Molina would and was wondering what the deal was as he was easily thrown out at home. He definitely was not putting any effort into scoring that game.

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        • stymeedone

          2 years ago

          Oli was right to question O’Neill’s hustle. He was absolutely WRONG to do it thru the media, publicly.

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  13. Jackalopal

    2 years ago

    This feels like a developing situation similar to Preller and his weird controlling ways

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    • Gwynning

      2 years ago

      So weird that a General Manager and President of Baseball Operations would want to control his team…

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      • Rishi

        2 years ago

        The best head of an organization knows to delegate authority. Why hire someone if you don’t trust them? If it’s because of ownership then shouldn’t you understand how not delegating authority to those who are hired is detrimental, considering that means it’s happening to you? If you want to control their decisions then tell them exactly what you want when they are hired. If they accept the job and don’t like it then it’s their fault at that point.

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      • stymeedone

        2 years ago

        Micro managing produces micro results.

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    • Now Yu Know

      2 years ago

      Some people can’t resist dragging Preller’s name through the mud even in articles that have nothing to do with him. @jack

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  14. JimtheEsquire

    2 years ago

    Well that’s the last thing anyone wanted…

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    • PaysonTim

      2 years ago

      Except for fans of rival teams.

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      • It's in the CARDS

        2 years ago

        In other words, a thing many people wanted.

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  15. Jesse Chavez enthusiast

    2 years ago

    Every Cardinals fans dream come true!

    3
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  16. omahamadness

    2 years ago

    Whyyyyyy god whyyyy

    5
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  17. Vannuys65

    2 years ago

    The worst in game manager in baseball. Nice job Mo, way to continually double down on bad decisions.

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    • solaris602

      2 years ago

      The best reward will be to sit back and watch this one play out. They won with Schildt, but he wasn’t a lackey. Cards may not be winning, but they locked up the more important lackey. This is something the Rockies would do, and we all know what a shining beacon on a hill they are.

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      • PunkRockies

        2 years ago

        Leave the Rockies out of this

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  18. Flanster

    2 years ago

    What What Whaat!?!?!?

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  19. Mike56

    2 years ago

    As a Cards fan why in the hell would you do this. If they have another year like last year Oli and Mo need to go .

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    • dano62

      2 years ago

      Oh they’ll go, alright. But another season like last & thousands of fans will have gone too (per game)…

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      • Rishi

        2 years ago

        Don’t worry they have Lance Lynn

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        • TheRabbitBaron

          2 years ago

          And strong veteran leadership

          2
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        • Hammerin' Hank

          2 years ago

          And Kyle Gibson, too. What can go wrong?

          1
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  20. Chad Dare

    2 years ago

    A contract extension is basically meaningless. If management wants to make a change one extra year on a deal isn’t going to keep them from moving another direction.

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    • batterseye

      2 years ago

      Yep. Wonder if this is mainly intended to take the heat away from the ‘Yadi’s here and ready to take over’ bandwagon that’ll start as soon as the team hits a rough patch?

      Still a pretty shocking headline for most Cards fans to see though!

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      • BaseballGuy1

        2 years ago

        Molina would be a terrible replacement for Marmol. Get a real experienced MLB manager from outside the inbred STL culture.

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        • BradBaar

          2 years ago

          Quote of the Day!
          The Cards are an incestuous organ -ization.

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        • Rishi

          2 years ago

          I don’t like giving first time managers a chance. Using guys from your organization too easily is often bad too. That said you do know them better and they know the organization. It is always nice to have a manager who understands pitching. If they were gonna hand over the reins to a first time guy it’s not a bad time to do so. They are somewhat in between. I don’t think anyone is expecting a WS certainly.

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        • lesterdnightfly

          2 years ago

          Molina would never hand over the lineup card. Too much Stickem on it….

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      • SupremeZeus

        2 years ago

        Probably real merit to that sentiment. Also probably want to reward a ”Redbird lifer.” However if they are rewarding you after a 91 loss season, you better have somebody else starting your car with Yadi lurking somewhere in the background. Yadi is near the top of the Redbird lifer totem pole. As always, I’m here for the crash and burn if MoeTie ever does install Yadi as the top man.

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    • its_happening

      2 years ago

      Except he received one for doing nothing. Lame duck status is what he earned.

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  21. Salzilla

    2 years ago

    Shockingly bad.

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  22. Cardsfan21

    2 years ago

    Jesus. If Yadi coaches another team in the league as a result I’ll never watch a baseball game again.

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    • Karensjer

      2 years ago

      Molina always annoyed me and came off as showboaty. Glad he’s not coaching or managing to be honest.

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      • machumizer

        2 years ago

        He was really quiet, he would stare down runners after they stupidly tried to steal on him and would back his team up in some stupid brawls but generally he was cold blooded and didnt draw attention to himself until maybe the end of his career where he finally looked to be having fun reaching milestones. Yadi might be annoying but any team he manages is going to be extremely well prepared every single day and the pitching staff would be in the hands of one of the best game callers in the history of the catching position, so its good he’s not managing but if he was your teams manager you would have a great respect for how seriously he takes playing good baseball and winning

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        • Karensjer

          2 years ago

          You didn’t watch him against the Dutch in the WBC.
          My team won’t be able to do anything with or without Molina at the helm because Rays ownership won’t spend money.

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        • revolver

          2 years ago

          OMG I might puke

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    • BaseballGuy1

      2 years ago

      You mean if Molina ever manages any team in all of MLB, including STL in particular, you will never watch another baseball game. As bad as Marmol is, Molina would not be an improvement.

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    • ih8tepaperstraws

      2 years ago

      Been a life long Cardinal fan. I don’t think Molina will ever be the manager. But we will get 20+ years of cardinals asking for it just like Oquendo. Molina could be terrible like Ventura was for the White Sox. Would hate to root for the firing of Molina and change my opinion of him.

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      • SonnySteele

        2 years ago

        Like Mets fans and Wally Backman.

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      • 17dizzy

        2 years ago

        I still believe Oquendo would make a good Cardinals manager. The reason he won’t be hired is he’s from the highly successful Cardinal’s Way.
        Now-a-days ……. It’s the dreaded Mozeliak Way or the highway.

        The Cardinals are currently the most unstable team in the major leagues from their Ownership down to the bat boy.
        (I Apologize to the Bat-Boy!!!!)

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  23. just_thinkin

    2 years ago

    Woops!

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  24. Mike56

    2 years ago

    Have they announced it’s just one extra year ? Could be more

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    • JimtheEsquire

      2 years ago

      Through 2026, so 2 extra years.

      Reply
  25. AboveHockey

    2 years ago

    I had a feeling this organization hated us… This just confirms it. Unreal.

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  26. Card66

    2 years ago

    What the !!!! his record does not merit it, could not wait to see how the season goes, great move for the other central teams..

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    • JimtheEsquire

      2 years ago

      In his defense, he has a winning record even with the horrible year. He’s just not good at managing games, or his clubhouse, or the media, or at picking a coaching staff…

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      • SonnySteele

        2 years ago

        Perhaps he needs a Marmol Aide.

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  27. Dorothy_Mantooth

    2 years ago

    Oli must have some dirt on ownership or upper management.

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  28. Rsox

    2 years ago

    The one guy that could actually make Cardinals fans wish for Mike Matheny to come back gets an extension?

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  29. Card66

    2 years ago

    Who does he have the goods on? Guess I need to find a new team to support.

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  30. Jabronie23

    2 years ago

    Im fine with it. Everyone who hates Oli is too stupid to actually articulate why they don’t like him

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    • BaseballGuy1

      2 years ago

      You are mistaken. The majority of STL fans have no love for Marmol. Plenty can and have stated the myriad of reasons why Marmol has been and will continue to be a poor MLB manager.

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    • Poolhalljunkies

      2 years ago

      As a non card fan watching this..i think you might be the only one who likes him..maybe share with everyone why you are fine with the extention? what has he done specifically that you think was good?..im genuinely curious..my non troll.disclaimer

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      • Jabronie23

        2 years ago

        I am of the belief that over the last decade or so, managers have become largely indistinguishable from one another. Most of the important decision making, like bullpen management, lineups, etc are more or less determined by analytics and dictated from the top. A manager’s job now is just relegated to the leader role. Now, there were a couple of instances of questionable leadership from Marmol last year, but I think that’s true of most managers. By all indications, his players seem to like and respect him

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    • saluelthpops

      2 years ago

      You should read the comments above and below. Articulation abounds. It’s not that difficult. Perhaps you could articulate why you are “fine with it.”

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      • YankeesBleacherCreature

        2 years ago

        It’s future guaranteed money. Having a manager like Marmol in lame duck status prevents him from resting on his laurels and try to do something different to win and secure future employment beyond the year. I wouldn’t think an extension exactly lights a fire underneath him with an urgency to change the status quo.

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        • YankeesBleacherCreature

          2 years ago

          @Chad Dare

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        • gojira15

          2 years ago

          “Resting on his laurels…”

          Not much to rest on.

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      • Jabronie23

        2 years ago

        90% of the complaints have to do with poor performance last year. I’ve always been of the belief that managers have a pretty minuscule effect on winning, especially in the modern day when bullpen management, lineups, etc are determined by data. The O’Neill fiasco wasn’t handled perfectly by Oli, but apparently they did try to handle it internally and it didn’t work

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    • lesterdnightfly

      2 years ago

      You are damning Cards fans for their stupidity…. and proclaiming yourself to be one of them.
      “Interesting, Captain.”

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  31. Frank_TananaDaquri

    2 years ago

    And just when the season was starting to look promising…bad juju.

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  32. CravenMoorehead

    2 years ago

    I do give Oli credit for speaking the truth about CB Bucknor AKA the black Angel Hernandez

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    • Karensjer

      2 years ago

      I’ve watched or attended so many games that have had bad calls and just about 90% of the time, I’ll look to see who the umpire is who made the bad call, and it is Bucknor. He is almost worse than Yankee fans.

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      • CravenMoorehead

        2 years ago

        Remember when Bucknor forgot to reset the pitch clock in a game between Tampa/Cleveland then called an automatic ball against the pitcher? He then ejected Kevin Cash when Bucknor could have met with the other umpires to fix the call…but that would have involved Bucknor admitting he was wrong. Dude is trash and deserves as much hate as Angel Hernandez gets.

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  33. Goin' to Sheetz

    2 years ago

    That’s surprising. Every Cardinals fan I know in real life and on here is counting down the days until he’s fired.

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  34. dano62

    2 years ago

    Great for the Marmol family; Cardinals family, err…

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  35. jonnymac2for1

    2 years ago

    This is dumb. He’s not good.

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  36. S_man_2014

    2 years ago

    Is today April 1st?

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  37. Old York

    2 years ago

    Guy has a winning record as manager. Even, HOF manager, Connie Mack, had a sub-500 record. Enshrine this guy in the HOF!

    /s

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  38. Slider_withcheese

    2 years ago

    Should have been fired after pulling Quintana then trusting and sticking with Helsley in the 2022 playoffs.

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  39. Card66

    2 years ago

    It’s time the fans show what they think of this STUPID move, boycott the games, hit the DeWitts with the loss of revenue that is the only way things may change.

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  40. spudchukar

    2 years ago

    I get that Oli was in a bad spot, with Molina looking over his shoulder. And the Red Birds did him no favors at the trade deadline. The question is can he earn the respect of the players without alienating them. Time will tell. He has been given plenty of tools. There was talk about less use of subs and a more set line-up, the current situation doesn’t really support that idea. Maybe there will be an effort to start a more consistent batting order, but with Arenado, Goldy, and Contreras needing at least one day off a week, that is going to difficult. Plus, there is a logjam at 2nd and DH. Good luck Oli, I think you are going to need it!

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    • BaseballGuy1

      2 years ago

      Molina would not be an improvement over Marmol. Neither were or are qualified to be MLB managers. Going to be eating most of that contract when Marmol is terminated in 2024 and Mozeliak is replaced before the 2025 season begins.

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      • FrontOfficeStan

        2 years ago

        This is such a weird take, Molina was already viewed as a manager of the club. The most common argument against him is how he would handle the press.

        I do think that this was a sort of sweetheart deal Mo made to secure Oli money for when he’s gone as well.

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  41. So many crybaby Mets fans

    2 years ago

    What about Schildt? Oh, wait…

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  42. wvsteve

    2 years ago

    Mistake

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  43. zpgreen

    2 years ago

    This is the worst StL Cardinals news I have seen in years.

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  44. its_happening

    2 years ago

    Deserved to be fired either game 2 or 3 last year in their opening series against the Blue Jays. Did not realize bad managing gets rewarded.

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  45. DonOsbourne

    2 years ago

    Not at all surprised. Mo plans to ride out his contract. This extension guarantees his hand picked puppet has a contract that will keep him in place as well. The timing is perfect. He gets the extension before the losing starts. No way DeWitt will attempt to force Mo to make a change at any point during the season now. Come on 2026!

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    • acoss13

      2 years ago

      Don,

      Serious question, would you prefer Mike Matheny as a manager right now?

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      • DonOsbourne

        2 years ago

        Eh, probably. Matheny was a paint by numbers manager who also had trouble getting along with certain players. But he did at least command more respect because of his success and reputation as a hard nosed player.

        The team’s play improved markedly after Shildt took over, so it’s obvious Matheny had short comings. But overall, yes, I would probably take Matheny over Marmol.

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        • acoss13

          2 years ago

          Shildt was the guy to keep, but Mo wanted a Yes-man and he most certainly got it. Matheny got respect because he played under LaRussa I believe, and he did take the Cardinals to a pennant in 2013 at least.

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        • RandorBierd

          2 years ago

          Matheny was one of the worst managers I’d ever seen. Then I saw Marmol.

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  46. I.M. Insane

    2 years ago

    “Oli” may not be the worst manager, but he’s in the bottom three.

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    • acoss13

      2 years ago

      As a White Sox fan, I’ll throw my hat in for Pedro Grifol, especially with the comments from players that got traded at the deadline last year.

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  47. rocknwell

    2 years ago

    ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!

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  48. TheRabbitBaron

    2 years ago

    What the f*** WHY!?!

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  49. LFGMets (Metsin7) #ConsistentlyBannedBaseballExpert

    2 years ago

    Marmol might be as bad as Luis Rojas when he managed the Mets. Extend the second worst manager (#1 is Mendoza) in the league? The FO should be fired and the manager should be a line cook. I guess the “Cardinal Way” isn’t what it was anymore

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  50. DarkSide830

    2 years ago

    2 year extention is 3 years too many.

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  51. THEY LIVE!!!

    2 years ago

    Maybe this extension is intended to get Arenado to demand a trade? Expect Goldy to be traded at the deadline too. This decision is tantamount to admitting that you’re tanking.

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  52. User 2161944466

    2 years ago

    Cool! Now sign Bauer

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    • lesterdnightfly

      2 years ago

      Hank Bauer would fit the Cardinals perfectly.

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  53. SupremeZeus

    2 years ago

    Gepetto tightening his grip.

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  54. Doug

    2 years ago

    If I had to bet on which manager was fired first this year, he’d be my pick.

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  55. Bryzzo2016

    2 years ago

    This is good news for the rest of the NL Central. Maybe they can extend Mo to a lifetime contract.

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  56. kripes-brewers

    2 years ago

    Looks like the “Cardinal Way” has run its course. Miller Time for this Brewers fan. Ohhhh does that taste great… it was a great run Cards fans, for a darn long time

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  57. Manfred’s playing with the balls

    2 years ago

    Managers are the most overrated position in baseball. Everyone here knows GM’s make all the lineup calls and managers are there just to convince players to “buy in”. They choose ex players who do what they’re told by management and are respected by players.

    tl:dr
    Managers are glorified cheerleaders

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    • FrontOfficeStan

      2 years ago

      Managers lose games.

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      • Manfred’s playing with the balls

        2 years ago

        BS trope
        How can they lose games when they don’t do anything?

        Someone with a name like front office Stan would parrot tired lines that everyone knows aren’t true. Bad defense and pitching loses games, not the cheerleader not doing enough hand clapping

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  58. octavian8

    2 years ago

    Good news for Reds fans!

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  59. norcalblue

    2 years ago

    My sincere condolences to all Cardinal fans.

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  60. Player to be named in the future 2

    2 years ago

    Wow, for years the Cardinals were one of the class organizations in baseball. They are quickly becoming a laughing stock

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    • GO1962

      2 years ago

      All good things eventually must come to an end.

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  61. CCooper8920

    2 years ago

    Why?! This seems very stupid.

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  62. User 2161944466

    2 years ago

    I guess the people freaking out do not realize he can still be fired at any time.

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  63. Doug Dascenzo's Mob Boss Dad

    2 years ago

    Poor Yadi.

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    • Doug Dascenzo's Mob Boss Dad

      2 years ago

      Oh well, he’ll always have his basketball team in Puerto Rico.

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  64. Nosferatu Zodd

    2 years ago

    Cardinals fans now understand how important catchers are to a team. Hitters and pitchers are natural enemies and they are the bridge between the two. If they can hit a bit it’s a bonus.

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  65. CardsFan57

    2 years ago

    Why? At least see how this year goes after the team grossly underperformed last season.

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  66. paulk-2

    2 years ago

    I’m assuming Mozeliak’s goal is to leave this team so bad that they will have all kinds of money to spend when he leaves. Goldy isn’t going to re-sign into this dumpster fire of a team and Arenado is going to demand a trade. Might as well trade Contreras as well. The bad times are here Cardinal Nation.

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    • Slider_withcheese

      2 years ago

      You make it sound as if not extending Goldschmidt, clearing Contreras’s contract (too much for a future DH) and getting something for Nolan Arenado while they can is a bad thing.

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      • FrontOfficeStan

        2 years ago

        I’m not sure I agree with trading Arenado but avoiding a Goldschmidt extension and clearing that awful Contreras contract would certainly be an achievement. Our farm is dog water so maybe you’re onto something with trading Arenado. I’m not so sure we’re THAT out of it right now, but sadly I’m losing my optimism with each day.

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    • CardsFan57

      2 years ago

      This rebuild should have started in July of last year. They could have gotten some top pitching prospects for Goldy and Arenado last year. They won’t get as much this year. On the plus side Goldy will likely approve any trade this year to avoid a qualifying offer next year.

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  67. Joe Robbins

    2 years ago

    >|€|!|!|€|£\<[_{, ! Extremely pissed..

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  68. Walker4daWinn

    2 years ago

    All that needs to be said can be summed up in 1 single word.

    WHY???

    If anything he shoulda been fired or at best play out this year in hopes of earning the extension. Nothing he has done is deserving of this. This is so disappointing.

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  69. jaxcards

    2 years ago

    I am at the Cardinals/Marlins Spring Breakout game in Jupiter right now and am irritated by this news.

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    • User 2161944466

      2 years ago

      Put your phone away and enjoy the sun and some live baseball kid. lol

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    • Strunk Flugget

      2 years ago

      Jupiter has a temperature of -166 degrees and no land. How is this possible?

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      • Gwynning

        2 years ago

        Sbaseball!™️

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    • kripes-brewers

      2 years ago

      Seriously enjoy and have some fun! It’s still a great game, but it’s just a game.

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  70. C4Luke

    2 years ago

    well we’re doomed

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  71. hansen910

    2 years ago

    Rewarding mediocrity for another two years .

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  72. GarryHarris

    2 years ago

    Three more years of last place. Does this mean the present Cardinals front office found jobs on other teams within the division?

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    • 17dizzy

      2 years ago

      I wish some Billionaire business man—— who loves the History of the St. Louis Cardinals—- would buy the team from the DeWitts.

      That is the only way this Cardinals Franchise can be turned around to be an annual National League Pennant contender as it has been in its long storybook History!!!

      So much for my wish.

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      • Joe Robbins

        2 years ago

        Reply to 17dizzy. You are absolutely right. Why don’t we just petition all other Cardinals fans like us to pool all of our money together and make an offer to the DeMutt group. I’ve got 10,000 to put towards it. All of us together could do it. We could be like the Green Bay Packers. Let the baseball community take them over. Appoint a new president, GM, and manager. We can do this. It’s just become so bad that we have to save the team from itself..

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  73. wifflemeister

    2 years ago

    Over 150 comments so far (and counting) and not a single one is positive.

    Way to read the room, Mo

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  74. MetsSchmets

    2 years ago

    I hear he has a chain on his wallet

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  75. Deez Cardinals

    2 years ago

    This organization is truly tanking!!!! I have never been more disgusted!!! We peaked from 2000-2015 now we are pathetic

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  76. Joe Robbins

    2 years ago

    I have a thought that just came to my mind for the other Cardinals fans. Do you realize that we are the only MLB organization that REWARDS MEDIOCRITY? This is our new reputation.

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  77. BranchLilDicky

    2 years ago

    WHY???????

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  78. uvmfiji

    2 years ago

    Yay the joe torre cards are back!

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  79. letsholdemandgohome

    2 years ago

    What’s the definition of insanity, Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?

    Another fine mess you’ve gotten us into Oli.

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  80. main benjammin

    2 years ago

    Goddamnit

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  81. Redb1

    2 years ago

    I hope we are all proven wrong and have to apologize!

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  82. GenoSeligPrieb

    2 years ago

    Love it! Hope he doesn’t change a thing. Keep St Louis where it belongs – in last place

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  83. LABeachguy

    2 years ago

    Al from White Plains is going to lose over this.

    Thought the Cardinals manager was the top manager to start the season on the hot seat.

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  84. jmlang

    2 years ago

    Are you kidding me? Tell me you’re kidding me.

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  85. rodcarew

    2 years ago

    I get the feeling that the Cardinals don’t want to work. But I don’t know why?

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  86. GO1962

    2 years ago

    The Marmol extension is great news for any Cardinals player who underperforms, which is about half of the roster, because those players have a scapegoat.

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    • spudchukar

      2 years ago

      Relax! Oli isn’t the reason the Cards were good in 2023 and bad in 2024. Having said that there is no reason the Cards cannot bump up next to the cap. I never thought of this before, but is there some sort of contest between owners as to who can put the best team out there for the least amount of money. If so that is such a disgrace. So you win financial games over real games. Is that where we are in society?

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  87. MarkieFresh

    2 years ago

    No question Goldy retires a Cardinal now to get a ring.
    Arenado thankful he did not use an opt out.
    Which young player cuts a friendly deal first?

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    • DonOsbourne

      2 years ago

      Well Marmol is young and I bet his contract is VERY team friendly so………

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      • paulk-2

        2 years ago

        He is just a yes man who won’t give Mo grief. Thats all he is.

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  88. Fallguy820

    2 years ago

    This is such a joke !!!!

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  89. Windowpane

    2 years ago

    Wow. Terrible news for Cardinal fans. Marmol lost his clubhouse last season. Yadi was and is the guy who should be the manager.

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    • paulk-2

      2 years ago

      Won’t happen as long as Mozeliak is GM. It’ll be another Schildt situation where Yadi is telling Mozeliak to stay in his lane and Mo fires Yadi for not managing the way Mo wants it done.

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  90. Mercenary.Freddie.Freeman

    2 years ago

    The news here should read Marmol fired not extended.

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  91. Bounty Hunters IA

    2 years ago

    Trash franchise making another terrible decision. Apparently the most recent database they have hacked says this guy is a good manager. Maybe hack someone else next time cheating cesspool franchise

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  92. MacGromit

    2 years ago

    How much is guaranteed and what’s the buy out? without that information, seems like it’s too early to get bent out of shape. if the buy out is low, it just increases the pressure on Oli to bring better results. (can’t just claim lame duck lack of support/confidence from ownership).

    I know less about mgr contracts, serious questions, can anyone shed some light on that for me?

    at first blush, I get why Cards fans are not happy. i’d be interested to see if there’s wiggle room to “undo” this extension and cut him loose if they repeat last year’s results.

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  93. Logjammer D"Baggagecling

    2 years ago

    If be has a repeat year of 2023 this year or next. He won’t make it to the 2026 season.

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  94. 17dizzy

    2 years ago

    Just looking at Oli Marmol’s picture shows the weasel he is.
    I don’t care what anyone says—- especially John Mozeliak—- there is no Justification for Marmol’s 2-yr extension whatsoever!!!
    Mozeliak has torn down the Cardinals and Marmol is just Mozeliak’s puppet hand.
    Puppet hand so all future damages through 2026 can be blamed on Marmol—— Not John Mozeliak.

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