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Matt McLain Headed For Second Opinion On Injured Shoulder

By Steve Adams | March 20, 2024 at 6:10pm CDT

6:10pm: Bell conceded this evening that McLain will not be available on Opening Day (via Mark Sheldon of MLB.com). He’s headed for a second opinion to determine the extent of the injury but now seems likely to at least begin the season on the injured list.

12:44pm: Reds infielder Matt McLain was scratched from the lineup Monday due to some discomfort in his left shoulder, prompting the club to have an MRI performed. While the team hasn’t divulged anything conclusive yet, manager David Bell provided an ominous update Wednesday, telling the Reds beat that the MRI found “something” and that the team is still gathering information and determining how to proceed (X link via Charlie Goldsmith of the Cincinnati Enquirer). There’s an unusually broad range of outcomes at this point, as Bell didn’t firmly rule out McLain for the Opening Day roster but also acknowledged that there’s a “possibility” of shoulder surgery.

The 17th overall pick in the 2021 draft, the now-24-year-old McLain made his big league debut in 2023 and immediately made an impact. In 89 games and 403 trips to the plate, he slashed .290/.357/.507 (128 wRC+) with 16 homers, 23 doubles, four triples and 14 stolen bases (in 19 tries). His 7.7% walk rate was a bit lower than average, while his 28.5% strikeout rate was well north of average.

McLain had some good fortune on balls in play (.385 BABIP), though some of that lofty BABIP is attributable to a huge 24.2% line-drive rate and strong 42.8% hard-hit rate. It’s still fair to project some regression in his performance, but even if he’s not hitting at the borderline star-caliber level he did in 2023, McLain has the look of an everyday fixture in the Reds’ lineup due both to his bat and his defensive versatility.

Though McLain was drafted as a shortstop, he split hit time between the two middle infield slots. Bell suggested earlier in camp that McLain was likelier to focus on second base this season. Elly De La Cruz is expected to take the lion’s share of reps at shortstop, though McLain could slide to that side of the bag in the event of further injury troubles for De La Cruz.

The Reds have a noted infield surplus which was only deepened when they signed Jeimer Candelario to a three-year deal over the winter. An 80-game PED suspension for promising 22-year-old Noelvi Marte has thinned out the perceived logjam a bit, and an absence for McLain would lend further clarity to the division of playing time around the diamond. As it stands, Candelario appears lined up for regular work at the hot corner, with De La Cruz at short, McLain at second, Christian Encarnacion-Strand at first base and Spencer Steer in left field. Former NL Rookie of the Year Jonathan India has been expected to bounce between second base, first base and designated hitter, though he could certainly reclaim regular playing time at second base if McLain heads to the injured list.

McLain picked up 140 days of major league service time in 2023, leaving him a bit more than a month shy of a full year (172 days). That means the Reds still have six full seasons of control over him, though he’ll very likely wind up reaching Super Two status and thus be eligible for arbitration four times rather than the standard three. The first of those four offseasons of arbitration eligibility would fall after the 2025 campaign. On his current trajectory, McLain wouldn’t qualify for free agency until the 2029-30 offseason.

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91 Comments

  1. vaderzim

    2 years ago

    He’s already falling into the category of players who are good, but are always hurt half the time.

    Reply
    • chiefnocahoma1

      2 years ago

      “60% of the time, it works every time.”

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    • cr4

      2 years ago

      He’s played basically two years of pro ball and you already jumping to that conclusion after a two injuries in spring training lol

      5
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      • vaderzim

        2 years ago

        Falling = in the process of.

        Meaning at this rate he has already missed time for 2 different injuries and if this trend continues with him, we’ll have another Mitch Haniger on our hands, which is a shame because Haniger had lots of potential but rarely could stay healthy for an entire season.

        Reply
  2. AFrenchBullDog

    2 years ago

    Friedl, Marte, McClain….

    3
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    • This one belongs to the Reds

      2 years ago

      and Williamson, Lodolo, Martinez, Gibalt, Young….

      2
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      • Johnny utah

        2 years ago

        Is nick martinez hurt too??

        Reply
        • This one belongs to the Reds

          2 years ago

          Right ribs, TBD

          Reply
      • User 2506090137

        2 years ago

        Lodolo is expected to be back April 10th, he’ll just miss a couple turns through the rotation. Whoever wins their 5th starter role is a placeholder until then. Martinez is expected to be in their Opening Day rotation.

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        • cguy

          2 years ago

          Gibaut also is back to pitching probably no more than a week or 2 behind. I cannot believe they signed Candelario. What a waste of money. Just because Friedl, McLain. & Marte are out- no reason to sign a switch hitting veteran in his prime who can defend multiple positions! Should have spent that money on Sonny Gray(whoops).

          2
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      • Alan Horn

        2 years ago

        Senzel is the one that come up first in my mind.

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    • Johnny utah

      2 years ago

      Marte isnt injured
      Just a dumb kid

      Reply
      • DarkSide830

        2 years ago

        either way he’s not available

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        • Johnny utah

          2 years ago

          Crazy thing is reds have insane depth. And so many guys in the farm system that are ready for the majors. They might not field the best team possible opening day but they have alot of solid guys that can fill-in

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    • User 2506090137

      2 years ago

      It’s been a tough month for the Reds. That young team will definitely be tested out of the gate.

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      2 years ago

      I am rooting for the Cubs, but feel really bad for Reds’ fans.

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      • titanic struggle

        2 years ago

        Thanks, but no need to feel bad for us. It’s baseball and things happen. Not one of us is tossin in a towel…

        Reply
  3. LordD99

    2 years ago

    Jonathan India, welcome back to full-time play at second.

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    • Alan Horn

      2 years ago

      Yep. It appears McClain is going to be Senzel all over again. The bad thing is that India is hurt a lot himself.

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      • HBan22

        2 years ago

        The difference is that McLain has already proven himself to be valuable at the major league level. It’s too early to label him as injury prone in my opinion, nevermind Nick Senzel 2.0

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  4. just_breathe

    2 years ago

    He had been suffering oblique injuries, late last year and early this spring.

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  5. Armaments216

    2 years ago

    All those infielders and the Reds are down to only one SS.

    Reply
    • This one belongs to the Reds

      2 years ago

      They got rid of three infielders recently too.

      Reply
    • Alan Horn

      2 years ago

      Arroyo isn’t that far away. He is likely the Red’s future SS anyway.

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      • Armaments216

        2 years ago

        Arroyo might very well be the future but I doubt they’d rush him to split time with De La Cruz. He’s only played 4 games above A ball.
        If McLain’s out they’ll probably pluck someone off a minors deal to back up SS for the time being.

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      • This one belongs to the Reds

        2 years ago

        More than likely, but he needs to succeed at AA and AAA first. He has only played 4 games at AA.

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        • Alan Horn

          2 years ago

          I agree as well. The Reds won’t need to be in any rush if all the injuries keep occurring. ,Plus, it gives them time to determine if De La Cruz can play SS.

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        • This one belongs to the Reds

          2 years ago

          When Arroyo comes up, EDLC is your RF. He hss a Dave Parker type arm.

          Reply
        • Alan Horn

          2 years ago

          That would solve some of the OF problems offensively since he is a SH. A lot at several positions depends on how the youngsters do with the bat. Time always tells the truth, so we will see. A bunch of them have a lot of potential.

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      • surfdoc37

        2 years ago

        Arroyo had surgery and is out for the year already.

        Reply
  6. cr4

    2 years ago

    Man the baseball gods came with a vengeance for how the front office did Votto

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    • King123

      2 years ago

      Is it too late to trade for Votto?

      3
      Reply
    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      2 years ago

      He recently hand-wrote a letter apologizing to Canada:

      theconversation.com/joey-vottos-handwritten-apolog…

      3
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      • nitnontu

        2 years ago

        Thank you, YankeesBleacherCreature, for link to interesting article. In addition to being about one of my favorite baseball players, the article talks about how writing in cursive can communicate in ways that keyboards can’t. I personally don’t like reading or writing cursive, but Votto’s handwritten apology to his mother country does seem even to me more sincere than if written on a keyboard.

        3
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  7. Rocker49

    2 years ago

    If they’d like to send Lodolo to the Astros, they could get Pena in return. Fair swap

    2
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    • titanic struggle

      2 years ago

      No bueno.. gracias..

      Reply
  8. RedLegJason

    2 years ago

    Please don’t be Senzel 2.0

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    • HBan22

      2 years ago

      McLain can actually hit MLB pitching.

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      • RedLegJason

        2 years ago

        Senzel was a pretty decent platoon guy last year against LHP

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    • cr4

      2 years ago

      McLain did more in one year than Senzel had in his entire career such a jump in logic that because one injury he’s going end up like Senzel

      1
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      • RedLegJason

        2 years ago

        Lol you seem oddly mad about my comment. I didn’t say he IS Senzel 2.0. I said I hope he isn’t, in the sense that Senzel was always getting hurt. This also isn’t McLain’s first injury. Or did you forget he missed the last month of the season last year? I didn’t think it was that difficult to understand my comment but you found a way!

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  9. hiflew

    2 years ago

    Maybe they were right to keep 8 infielders.

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  10. dgredsfan

    2 years ago

    Anyone have any idea of how this injury occurred?

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    • Big whiffa

      2 years ago

      He hadn’t played all spring. Injury from last season

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      • RedLegJason

        2 years ago

        Not true. Not sure why you’re so confident in posting that multiple times, but last year was an oblique injury. He has played this spring and he now has hurt his shoulder.

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        • Big whiffa

          2 years ago

          Because he’s barely played all spring. He’s 0-13. So when did he get hurt and on what play ? Or at what point in the offseason ? The info out of cincy camp is shaky to say the least.

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        • RedLegJason

          2 years ago

          I’ll just respond to your question and ignore the fact that you’re acting like you didn’t say it’s the same injury and he hasn’t played at all. Haha
          It’s obviously something new that occurred once he started playing again. I don’t know when exactly, because Bally Sports Ohio is too cheap to televise spring training games so I couldn’t watch the games McLain played in. But it’s new. He was dealing with some oblique soreness, which is why he didn’t play at the beginning of spring training, but they straight up said this is a shoulder issue so that’s new and has nothing to do with last season.

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        • MattyIce2778

          2 years ago

          You realize you can hurt your shoulder in the cage, moving a couch, sleeping….literally in any way that requires moving the joint, right?

          Reply
    • NYCityRiddler

      2 years ago

      Midget throwing contest. Ahahaha!

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  11. MLB Top 100 Commenter

    2 years ago

    India is re-emerging as a major power.

    4
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    • Armaments216

      2 years ago

      Population around India’s neighborhood is falling

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  12. Clofreesz

    2 years ago

    Fantasy Season washed away…

    3
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    • 30 Parks

      2 years ago

      Clo – my team is taking a beating, too – Marte & McLain. Acquiring Wander Franco two weeks before his last MLB game isn’t helping, either.

      2
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      • Clofreesz

        2 years ago

        I got Seager, Bradish, Gavin Williams, Taj Bradley, and Jhoan Duran on all my teams. I’m so desperate for pitching that I took deGrom, Scherzer, Woodruff, Buehler, and McClanahan as insurance for the 2nd half.

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  13. Jake Biggar

    2 years ago

    I guess signing Candelario and keeping India looks smart after all…

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    • Franklin Nitty

      2 years ago

      He looks terrible this spring but yea i guess he is a body

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      • This one belongs to the Reds

        2 years ago

        Hopefully Candelario hits more than a buck 25.

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      • MLB Top 100 Commenter

        2 years ago

        India looks good this Spring

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  14. b00giem@n

    2 years ago

    Wheel’s are falling off..
    Damn

    1
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  15. dhud

    2 years ago

    Could push steer back to more time on the dirt. He’s gotten a few reps at 2B late last year and this spring

    Reds plan for the first 60 days, according to Robert Downey Jr, “Survive.”

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  16. Big whiffa

    2 years ago

    3 dudes carried over from being hurt last year. India Lodolo McClain yet none had surgeries. Not sure if I’ve ever seen the likes of anything like that before in baseball

    Reply
    • RedLegJason

      2 years ago

      India is healthy now and McLain’s injury now isn’t the same one he had last season

      Reply
  17. Mikenmn

    2 years ago

    Sign Montgomery. he’s got the arm to play short.

    3
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    • Susannah

      2 years ago

      The White Sox may want to keep Colson Montgomery for themselves for SS.

      1
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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      2 years ago

      Keep that quiet, Mikenmn, from the Padres!

      Reply
  18. User 2161944466

    2 years ago

    A reality show based on the Reds infielders should be a thing

    2
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  19. DarkSide830

    2 years ago

    Only 10 SS left.

    1
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  20. DockEllisDee

    2 years ago

    Please, don’t call him Shirley

    Reply
  21. dasit

    2 years ago

    at this point any team that avoids a tsunami of injuries has a shot to win it all

    Reply
  22. Rightout

    2 years ago

    He will be out for the year with surgery and then take all of next year to get back to being good again..tough luck for him and Reds fans…

    Reply
  23. walanham

    2 years ago

    Reds – get lost Barrero! No room
    For you
    1 suspension, 1 wrist, 1 shoulder later and that move looks dumber and dumber!

    Why on earth did they cut bait on Barrero with 4 weeks in ST. Kralls been good but he dropped the ball on that move

    1
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    • Armaments216

      2 years ago

      They needed a roster spot to add Justin Wilson to cover recent LHP injuries in the bullpen. With the benefit of hindsight waiving Barrero probably wasn’t the right choice. Then again, it shouldn’t be that hard to find a replacement for Barrero’s production from among minor league signees. They’ll just need to open another roster spot to do it.

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      • astick

        2 years ago

        They kept Martini. That’s what is so odd. Second guessing is easy, but, really, wtf Barrero’s potential exceeds Martini’s ceiling, imo.

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        • Armaments216

          2 years ago

          Barrero was out of options. Before the injuries and Marte’s suspension there wasn’t a fit for him on the big league roster. So they tried to pass him through waivers to send to the minors. Martini still has a minor league option. So does Bubba Thompson, who as it turns out was also good to hang onto, with the injury to TJ Friedl.

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        • This one belongs to the Reds

          2 years ago

          Honestly, Barrero’s ship sailed a long time ago and he is what he is. They sadly let a couple of other young players go before making the decision they should have all along. More seat of the pants moves with no overall plan, just like the failures to act last offseason and season.

          Reply
    • MattyIce2778

      2 years ago

      They probably did that for Barrero’s benefit actually. Allowed him to hook on with someone quickly and the ST time to make the major league roster.

      Reply
      • Armaments216

        2 years ago

        And now Texas needs to clear a roster spot for Michael Lorenzen. So Barrero could be on the move again.

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  24. Franklin Nitty

    2 years ago

    Reds medical staff is well known to be incompetent, they have been called out before. This organization is a mess top to bottom. Why did they bring Lodolo back last year to get hurt again? Why does McClain also have the same injury as last year? Cannot make this up and some fans still think Nick Krall is their savior. At least im not them.

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    • dhud

      2 years ago

      Except McClain doesn’t have the same injury as last year

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      • wvredsfan

        2 years ago

        don’t bring simple logic into this argument….

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        • dhud

          2 years ago

          I struggle at that often, wvredsfan

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  25. joes-6

    2 years ago

    What a shame,

    Pirates 2024

    Reply
  26. revolver

    2 years ago

    Where’s the Ohtani article?

    Reply
    • briar-patch thatcher

      2 years ago

      They have to translate it first.

      Reply
  27. Reynaldo's

    2 years ago

    Tony Kemp and Josh Harrison making a u-turn on the interstate.

    1
    Reply
  28. Lefties

    2 years ago

    Lol and the Reds thought they were too good for Votto.

    1
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    • wvredsfan

      2 years ago

      huh? what does Votto have to do with this and how can a 40 year old .200 hitting DH help?

      Reply
      • Lefties

        2 years ago

        They put all their eggs in the basket of the newborn chicks. Not one guy on the team is proven. How does a 22 year old .230 hitter help? Don’t give me the whole potential speech, either.

        Reply
        • Lefties

          2 years ago

          Development my arse. This club couldnt ferment a fungus.

          Reply
  29. Johnny utah

    2 years ago

    Reminds me a bit of tampa. All their pitchers go down with TJ

    All reds hitters going down with something too

    Reply
  30. This one belongs to the Reds

    2 years ago

    Good for him getting a second opinion. It is his career after all.

    Reply

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