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Mets Talking With Julio Teheran

By Steve Adams | April 1, 2024 at 2:17pm CDT

The Mets placed righty Tylor Megill on the 15-day injured list with a shoulder strain earlier this afternoon, and SNY’s Andy Martino reports that they’re open to pursuing external options to help bolster their depth while waiting on Megill and other injured arms to heal up. They’ve picked conversations back up with right-hander Julio Teheran, per Martino. The Mets also talked with Teheran before he signed a minor league deal to go to camp with the Orioles. He wound up opting out of that deal and, per Martino, has other teams currently showing interest in him at the moment.

The 33-year-old Teheran had a resurgence of sorts with the Brewers in 2023. He didn’t pitch in 2022, had just five innings in 2021 and had been rocked for a 10.05 ERA in 31 1/3 frames during the 2020 season. But Teheran wound up tossing 71 2/3 innings of serviceable 4.40 ERA ball for Milwaukee, fanning a well below-average 17.4% of his opponents but also issuing walks at just a 4.5% clip.

During his minor league days with the Braves, Teheran was considered one of the best prospects in the entire sport. Baseball America ranked him as the No. 5 prospect in all of baseball in both 2011 and 2012. He made good on that billing for several seasons early in his career, too. Teheran logged a 3.03 ERA in 63 starts from 2013-14 and logged a collective 3.64 ERA in 1334 innings from 2013-19 before falling into a swift decline.

Last year’s showing in Milwaukee was the first time Teheran has had any consistent success since making 33 starts with a 3.81 ERA for the 2019 Braves. He pitched 13 1/3 official innings with the Orioles this spring, holding opponents to five runs (3.38 ERA) on nine hits … but with a lackluster 10-to-7 K/BB ratio in that time (17.5% strikeout rate, 12.3% walk rate).

Notably, current Mets president of baseball operations David Stearns was still in the Brewers organization when they signed Teheran last summer, albeit in an advisory capacity rather than atop the baseball operations hierarchy, as he was from 2015-22. Still, there’s a connection, and we’ve seen Stearns bring in a handful of his former Brewers in his first year leading the Mets’ front office (e.g. Adrian Houser, Tyrone Taylor, Jorge Lopez). The Mets were also reported to have strong interest in former Brewers lefty Brent Suter as a free agent, but he opted to sign with his hometown Reds.

The Mets figure to be just one of several teams looking into Teheran. Already this season, we’ve seen the Yankees, Cubs, Astros, Twins, Rangers, Marlins and Red Sox incur injuries of note in the rotation. Any could make speculative sense for a low-cost veteran like Teheran.

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36 Comments

  1. joshmorris

    1 year ago

    Just talking so not serious yet. Let me know when they start dating

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    • Paleobros

      1 year ago

      Mets sliding into his DMs

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    • Monkey’s Uncle

      1 year ago

      When they’re “dating”, or when they’re “DATING dating”?

      Reply
  2. Cohn Joppolella

    1 year ago

    The legend continues.

    Reply
  3. Yeti

    1 year ago

    Talking about what? Batting practice?

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  4. Dutch

    1 year ago

    Why does nobody want Mike Clevinger?

    Reply
    • Waymann

      1 year ago

      Clevinger has pretty clear pre/post Tommy John’s splits at this point. That + post sticky stuff. He’s just not the same pitcher as early career it seems. A lot of counting and underlying stats heading in the wrong directions (and some considerably so).

      He’s still a good pitcher and should latch on somewhere soon. I just think teams are cautious about a 10M+ contract for him.

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  5. VonPurpleHayes

    1 year ago

    Not a bad idea. NL East vet.

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  6. Flanster

    1 year ago

    No thanks!!

    Reply
  7. plmathfoto

    1 year ago

    Why not Bauer?

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    • Rsox

      1 year ago

      All legal issues aside Bauer basically used the Mets to get his deal with the Dodgers so there maybe some bad feelings there on the Mets side

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      • Deleted Userr

        1 year ago

        What legal issues?

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    • SocoComfort

      1 year ago

      Yea New York isn’t going to be a good fit for Bauer if he comes back to MLB. He is better off going to a smaller maker team with less media attention imo

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  8. User 3014224641

    1 year ago

    “Trevor is waiting.”

    And growing old doing so.

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    Reply
  9. User 2161944466

    1 year ago

    It’s going to be interesting to see how much money they have to include when they trade Lindor

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    • User 3014224641

      1 year ago

      The Dodgers are in and will try to defer the remainder of the contract.

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      Reply
  10. disgustingomar

    1 year ago

    Pass. Let a kid come up and take some lumps now can we see what we have bringing washed up scrubs does nothing..

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  11. flyingblindsquirrel

    1 year ago

    4.40 ERA is no resurgence, “of sorts” or otherwise. Hard pass

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    • Rishi

      1 year ago

      There were some surprising numbers there tho. He had an excellent WHIP, has great control now, and in minors was striking out a good number of hitters. He has evolved with control while devolving stuff/velo wise. I think he’s a good guy to stash at AAA as a spot starter. I’m also bias cause I like Julio.

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      • JackStrawb

        1 year ago

        @Rishi EXTREMELY lucky on balls in play, though: .231.

        6K per 9, 1.6 HR allowed, xERA 4.93. 0.3 fWAR, 0.5 bWAR in 71 innings.

        He’s a AAAA guy at this point. Many teams can use that, but it’s hard to imagine the Mets don’t have 5 SPs after Megill who can give them at least as much.

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  12. rjtfd

    1 year ago

    I think Stearns needs to cut the umbilical cord with the Brewers.
    This year is a bust. We don’t have any pitching and our hitters suck. Four of our “best hitters” are under .100 BA combined. Trade McNiel at deadline bring up Acuna send down Baty and bring up Vientos. Hope to keep some of the fans interested until 2025.

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    • bigdonkey44adam_dunn

      1 year ago

      Brewers will send a box of tissues 4 him…then DFA his butt!

      Reply
  13. Rishi

    1 year ago

    What do we think about the career FIP being .50+ higher than era? Over that many innings I can’t buy it. It’s highly unlikely for any stat with elements of luck involved to not even out when we get over 1000 or so innings pitched. He fits the bill of a guy who it would undervalue.

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    • JackStrawb

      1 year ago

      Run 500 starters through a simulator, my friend, and you’ll always have outliers—guys who are simply lucky. Or unlucky.

      It needs closer examination than this. How is Julio generating a .272 BABIP versus MLB’s .296 over his career? Was he playing in front of very good defenses in Atlanta? Did he face on average teams and players less good than the MLB average?

      And so on.

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      • Rishi

        1 year ago

        It’s fairly routine for these type of high contact pitchers with fairly good batted ball profiles to be underrated by FIP and for the difference between era and FIP (even over 1000+ innings) to be around .30. if anyone were going to be underrated by it it’s pitchers like this so why can’t we just take the equally (at least) plausible idea that it just undervalues what they are good at as a possibility? Julio’s hard contact is right there with pitchers like Kershaw (at least exit velo and barrel % despite his best seasons being untracked-true of Kershaw perhaps too) over career. We could perhaps assume that a stat which the entire purpose of is to remove batted ball profiles (besides HR) would undervalue pitchers relying on batted balls. The first player that came to mind to look up was Tim Hudson and he has a FIP 30 points higher than era. Over 3100 innings it’s tough to buy that he is that lucky. It’s literally the first guy I looked up. It’s hardly outliers when you look into it. It’s quite predictable- just take the assumptions the stat makes and think of a successful pitcher who isn’t great at those things. Or look up one who stinks who does what the stat likes. I find people are quite unscientific and irrational about this stat being so reliable. It clearly has too many assumptions and undervalues a very specific type of pitcher. Actually if one studies statistical analysis probabilities (in general) this seems far too common with fip to be a matter of pure chance. As much as people get on era it should generally stabilize decently even around 200 innings in the average case. Getting up around 2000-3000 it should be extremely reliable in terms of probability.

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  14. jvent

    1 year ago

    Forget Julio and just bring up 1 of the kids to pitch

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  15. sultan of swat

    1 year ago

    Is he insisting he only wants to start? Seems like he’d be a good long reliever guy for someone.

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  16. padam

    1 year ago

    This is big if it happens. Moves the needle from 42 wins to 43 for the season.

    Reply
  17. Doug

    1 year ago

    Would fit into the Mets rotation of “has beens and never was’s”

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  18. bigdonkey44adam_dunn

    1 year ago

    Why wouldn’t they go get and clevinger b4 he reupped with W Soxs…not a Mets fan but geez…the owner and management…WOW THEY SUX!

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    • Blue Baron

      1 year ago

      And Teheran won’t move the needle.

      Reply
  19. lewosim

    1 year ago

    No need for Julio. Luchessi or Butto will be fine. Both deserve a chance.

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  20. Allmhuran

    1 year ago

    And I quote: “to bolster the depth.” What depth?
    This is just a race to the bottom. Megill has proven once again he’s not a major league starter. Why would Stearns replace him with someone equally as bad. Why?…because hes going through the motions. If he was serious hed get Trevor Bauer in that rotation. There’s nothing more embarrassing Bauer could do after witnessing what the Mets did to themselves against Milwaukee. Stearns and Cohen need to show some guts. Money is not the issue because Bauer would sign for league minimum.

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    • bobbyvwannabe

      1 year ago

      Mets won’t sign Bauer. Period. End of story.

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      Reply
  21. Nervehammer

    1 year ago

    After Blanco’s no hitter, I doubt the Astros are interested in a potential back end starter unless another injury arises. Still have Bielack for depth with Verlander coming back soon. Urquidy, Garcia, and McCullers will all be back soon after

    Reply
  22. MLBTR needs to hire editors

    1 year ago

    Come on, Adams. No comma before “too.” Learn how to punctuate.

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