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Astros Interested In Flaherty, Kikuchi

By Anthony Franco | July 27, 2024 at 1:46pm CDT

The Astros are one of the teams most aggressively seeking starting pitching. They’ve already been tied to Jameson Taillon, Erick Fedde, and (before he was traded to Baltimore instead) Zach Eflin. Reporting yesterday also linked Houston to the top two rental starting pitchers on the market.

Jon Morosi of MLB.com tweeted last night that the Astros and Tigers have talked about righty Jack Flaherty. The Athletic’s Chandler Rome writes that Houston has interest in both Flaherty and Toronto southpaw Yusei Kikuchi. Flaherty and Kikuchi are each expected to move before next Tuesday’s deadline. The left-hander told reporters after last night’s start — almost certainly his last in a Jays uniform — that Toronto GM Ross Atkins has already informed him that he’s likely to be traded (link via Keegan Matheson of MLB.com). The Tigers haven’t made quite as strong a declaration on Flaherty, but they’re three games under .500 and 6.5 games back of the American League’s last Wild Card spot.

Flaherty is having the better season of the two. The 28-year-old has been one of the best pitchers in baseball this year. He owns a 2.95 earned run average across 18 starts. He’s averaging nearly six innings per appearance and missing bats at an elite rate. Flaherty has punched out a personal-best 32% of opposing hitters. His walk rate is below 5% for the first time in his career. Among pitchers with 100+ innings, only Garrett Crochet has a bigger gap between his strikeout and walk percentages. Flaherty is fifth among that group in strikeout rate, 14th in ERA and seventh in swinging strike percentage (14.1%).

Kikuchi also has plus strikeout and walk numbers, though he’s not missing quite as many bats as Flaherty has. Kikuchi is 24th in swinging strike rate and ranks 18th with a 26.2% strikeout percentage. He has fired 115 2/3 innings across 22 starts. His 4.75 ERA isn’t all that impressive, yet that mark is inflated by a very high .340 average on balls in play and a modest 70.6% strand rate. Kikuchi’s BABIP and left on base numbers were closer to league average last season, when he worked to a 3.86 ERA over 32 starts.

Astros general manager Dana Brown discussed his rotation pursuit with reporters on Friday afternoon (link via Matt Kawahara of the Houston Chronicle). Brown said the team would be happy with a “a third starter or a fourth starter” who could slot behind Framber Valdez, Hunter Brown and perhaps a healthy Justin Verlander in the rotation. (Ronel Blanco has also had an excellent season, but he’s in uncharted territory in terms of MLB workload.) Brown said it’d be “real difficult” to land someone who slots into the top two spots in the rotation, pointing to the lack of supply in high-end arms this summer.

One can debate whether Flaherty qualifies as a #1/#2 arm. He has certainly pitched at that level this year, but he’s one season removed from running a 4.99 ERA with middling strikeout and walk numbers. Kikuchi fits more clearly into the #3/4 starter bucket which Brown described, as home run issues have kept him from ever reaching a consistent top-of-the-rotation level.

While that could point to Kikuchi being the more likely target, the Astros seem engaged on a number of fronts. Houston has one of the weaker farm systems in the majors, but the limited control window on Flaherty and Kikuchi will cap the return to some extent. Brown noted that while he’d ideally land a pitcher who is controllable beyond this season, the Astros aren’t averse to acquiring a rental. He added that there’s no one in the minor league pipeline he’d consider categorically untouchable, though he indicated he preferred to avoid dealing directly off the MLB roster.

Outfielder Jacob Melton is the only Houston player who made Baseball America’s most recent Top 100 prospect update. The Tigers could justifiably ask for him in a Flaherty deal. Detroit has the ability to make Flaherty a qualifying offer if they don’t trade him this summer. Assuming he signs for more than $50MM next winter, the Tigers would get a compensatory pick after the 2025 first round. They’d need to value any trade package more heavily than they do the pick (plus whatever small chance they have of making a playoff push this year). Jake Bloss, who is currently working out of the big league rotation, is the #2 player on BA’s most recent update of the Astros’ system. He’s followed by 2023 first-round pick Brice Matthews and another current big leaguer, outfielder Joey Loperfido.

Flaherty is playing this season on a $14MM salary, while Kikuchi is making $10MM in the final season of a backloaded three-year deal. The former is due around $4.82M for the stretch run; the latter is still owed around $3.44MM. Any salary the Astros take on would count against their luxury tax ledger, which already sits at a franchise-high $256MM (calculated by RosterResource).

The Astros will be taxed at a 32% rate for salary they absorb when their payroll is between $257MM and $277MM. Brown broadly indicated the team was open to adding salary, saying that owner Jim Crane “understands that it’s important for us to get a starter … so I don’t think payroll is going to hold us back.”

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  1. Sk8

    11 months ago

    Kikuchi is probably going to cost less in prospects but he’s not someone I’d want starting an important playoff game. Flaherty has been inconsistent his entire career. If they’re smart, they’ll target someone better than the both of them.

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    • Canuckleball

      11 months ago

      Kikuchi is rotation depth during the regular season (#4/5) and a bullpen arm during the playoffs.

      I doubt any team views him as a playoff starter.

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      • Scrap Iron

        11 months ago

        And Astros have enough 4/5 starters. If a guy can’t be a go-to playoff starter, they should pass.

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        • bigdaddyt

          11 months ago

          But do they have a lefty 4/5 or bullpen arm

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  2. sad tormented neglected mariners fan

    11 months ago

    The astros have to answer the mariners trades with a deal of their own

    Getting flaherty would be a statement

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  3. spudchukar

    11 months ago

    Not enough for Flaherty, the Cards can beat that offer!

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    • spudchukar

      11 months ago

      He already said returning to the Cards is OK with him. And Mathews is a stud, that I would keep over Hence. Plus Cards have middle infielders, and catchers who are plus prospects. Besides, I am a Beta who played and was not a slap hitter!

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  4. nlewiss

    11 months ago

    These guys both seem risky. Granted Flaherty has been better than pre-trade deadline last year. But I’m not sure that washed off the stink of his bottoming out with O’s during previous stretch run. I think Tallion makes too much sense: affordable, controllable, local, Verlander/Framber insurance. That $18M per over three years makes sense with youth of Brown & Arrighetti and JV option falling short of vesting @ 140ip.

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  5. MPrck

    11 months ago

    Without a doubt the Tigers should hold onto Flahrety, and give him his 20 million Q.O. For Flahrity it would be nice to have that pay for next year, and prove himself for that long term deal somewhere. If he decides to move on the Tigers get that high pick. Unless the offer for him exceeds what they think they could get next year with that draft spot, then okay, trade him.

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    • Astros2017&22Champs

      11 months ago

      Flaherty accepting a QO after this season makes no sense. He’s having a terrific walk season. His earning power should he finish the year strong will never be better than right now. Any team acquiring him will have to beat the pick the tigers receive from it like you said. The Astros bad farm media drivel is so played out. Our development system is arguably the best in baseball. We consistently make big leaguers out of 6th-20th rd picks.

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      • spudchukar

        11 months ago

        Been a while since that was true!

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  6. kylek58

    11 months ago

    Flaherty for Will Wagner, Shay Whitcomb and another depth prospect, thoughts from the gallery?

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    • Scrap Iron

      11 months ago

      I don’t think that there is a chance the Astros make that trade. Wagner has a higher value than Flaherty.

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      • kylek58

        11 months ago

        To me it depends if they resign Bregman, if they do then it takes away potential chances for Wagner

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        • Scrap Iron

          11 months ago

          Almost zero chance Bregman stays.

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      • Elon’sDOGEbag

        11 months ago

        Present-day BILLY Wagner has a higher value than Flaherty.

        Marlins’ FO is going wild selling off all vestiges of the existing system—trade for Luzardo now for relatively cheap before he recovers from his slump and becomes a CY contender next year.

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    • Astros2017&22Champs

      11 months ago

      That’s a good trade idea. I believe Detroit will ask for brice, baez, or melton but im not trading either of them for a rental. Detroit is better off holding Flaherty until the deadline and hope a team gets desperate.

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      • kylek58

        11 months ago

        I think they could realistically ask for Melton and another lower non-top 30 prospect, Flaherty is one of the best pitchers in the AL this year

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        • Scrap Iron

          11 months ago

          100% chance they won’t get Melton for Flaherty. While he’s having an “up year,” he is at his ceiling (4th starter).

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        • Motor City Beach Bum

          11 months ago

          He’s pitching like a #1 or 2 and has in the past.

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      • stymeedone

        11 months ago

        It is the deadline. And Harris has not proven he’s able to complete last minute trades.

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        • Motor City Beach Bum

          11 months ago

          Of course there are actually three whole days left before the trade deadline so…

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    • Motor City Beach Bum

      11 months ago

      I like Wagner and Whitcomb but I like Brice Matthew’s more and he fills a pressing need. Grab all three and add in a BP arm from Detroit.

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  7. Scrap Iron

    11 months ago

    I don’t think that you guys need to write an article every day naming people the Astros are interested in. Just put one article that says they are interested in everyone..

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  8. Scrap Iron

    11 months ago

    Fair offer. May need to add One more midtier prospect

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    • stymeedone

      11 months ago

      If you throw in Whitley, he probably get injured on the toss.

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  9. bbcalmc

    11 months ago

    Fedde + bp arm for Melton

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  10. User 4014041831

    11 months ago

    I don’t these 2 SPs are a good idea for any team. Of the 2 I would prefer Flaherty.
    They might get Verlander, McCullers, back soon to bolster pitching
    HOU has a great team of Pressley and Hader to survive and win games with starters than can only last 85 pitchers / 5 IP.
    Good pitching design/strategy IMHO

    I think this could be a rumor floated as intentional misdirection while they focus on other targets.

    I can think of at least 7 from TOR, OAK, CHW, TB, CIN

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    • User 4014041831

      11 months ago

      I root for the STEMS

      I don’t want to help out HOU, PHI, LAD, SEA, TEX, AZ, PIT, ATL, BAL, NYY etc.

      AI is REAL you know – Plus old school spies are Everywhere.

      Loose lips sink …

      I forgot to mention CUB as a team also that would make it 8.

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      • User 4014041831

        11 months ago

        MIA also that makes 9

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    • goastros123

      11 months ago

      McCullers won’t be pitching this season.

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      • User 1939973770

        11 months ago

        I will be surprised if McCullers ever pitches in the majors again

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  11. sergefunction

    11 months ago

    Overall, the Tigers’ vaunted pitching prospects have not lived up, save for Skubal.

    Why have they given zero thought to tying up a guy they’ve helped unlock at age 28?

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    • stymeedone

      11 months ago

      That costs money, and Chris is not his father. His pocket book is zipped tight.

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      • moteus

        11 months ago

        Yeah, and that is just SO freaking sad!!

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  12. wileycoyote56

    11 months ago

    Tigers have an ace in the hole with Flaherty, they can issue a QO and receive a supplemental draft pick, so whoever wants him will need to exceed that value for him. Also they can offer an extension to keep him going forward, 3 years 50 million with options and incentives might just keep him in Detroit. He’s definitely revived his career under their tutoring, and has become a great teammate and clubhouse asset. Problem is getting Tigers to dedicate that much to a player.

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  13. User 1939973770

    11 months ago

    In other words the Astros are interested in acquiring a SP but probably won’t because they don’t have the prospect capital to facilitate a trade.

    Reply
  14. User 355748524

    11 months ago

    I can see them acquiring Kikuchi. Bloss needs more polishing in the minors and Arrigehti is actually worse then Kikuchi ATM.

    Perfectly fine for the 4 spot in the rotation considering the current state of the Astros rotation.

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    • User 1939973770

      11 months ago

      I like Arrigheti and Dubin, but they’re much more of a work in progress than Urquidy and Maton ever were.

      Ugh. I wish they had re-signed Neris

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  15. Lrtexasman

    11 months ago

    Flaherty holds the most interest for me. Just not including Melton, Dezenzo, Baez, Matthews, Wagner, Leon, Bloss, Blubaugh or Whitley. Loperfido, Arrighetti, or Barber maybe. Open to deals with the rest of the farm. On the ML roster McCormick, Dubin, Martinez, King, Montero, Caratini, and Cabbage could be moved.

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    • Motor City Beach Bum

      11 months ago

      So in other words you don’t want him.

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  16. stwawk

    11 months ago

    The Houston Trash Cans don’t need anybody. Not too long ago, they were buried in the cellar. They should have never been allowed to climb out.

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  17. bobby clementhay

    11 months ago

    “(Dana) Brown said it’d be “real difficult” to land someone who slots into the top two spots in the rotation, pointing to the lack of supply in high-end arms this summer.” TREVOR BAUER on line one…By the way, here are Bauer’s stats over the past two seasons in the Japanese and Mexican Leagues: 21-4, 2.55 ERA, 240 innings pitched, 209 hits allowed, 55 walks, 280 K’s, I would say he’d qualify as a one/two in the rotation with his previous performance and those stats, so I call BS on Dana Brown’s statement. In addition, Bauer would cost the Astros NOTHING in prospect capital and would not need to “ramp up” as he is already in mid-season form. Speaking of Bauer as a teammate, the great Mookie Betts said this: “My experience with Bauer is not anything remotely close to what everyone else’s experience is. I love him. I think he’s an awesome guy…he’s an awesome pitcher. He’s a great guy, somebody who wants to take the mound every fifth day.”

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  18. davidost233

    11 months ago

    Astros acquire no one!

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  19. MLB Top 100 Commenter

    11 months ago

    Skubal and Flaherty to Padres for Salas and Snelling.

    Which team says “no”?

    Reply

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